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St. Louis City Excise Commission Hearing on Liquor License Applications - September 11, 2025

Board of Aldermen CommitteesThursday, September 11, 2025
BodySt Louis, Missouri
SessionBoard of Aldermen Committees
DateThursday, September 11, 2025
StatusFILED
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Okay, we're on the record the matter the liquor license application for baked and boiled LLC located at 1801 South 9th Street.

0:15

This is a license for a full drink, Sunday, uh drink, full drink, sidewalk cafe, present at the hearing, and is Ms.

0:28

Donna Wisdom, excise agent for the excise office for City of St.

0:35

Louis, Miss Virginia Kill Gallon agent for the applicant, and Miss Alexandria Piper Piper, the uh managing officer, the applicant, the Miles McDonald, we have the excise commissioner in the city of St.

0:54

Louis is now 9 07 a.m.

0:57

on September 11th, 2025.

1:02

Okay, you're familiar with a lot of the stuff that works.

1:06

Okay, the first thing we're gonna introduce and exhibits is a certified copy of St.

1:10

Louis City Ordinance 71819, which governs the issuances of working licenses within the city of St.

1:19

Louis.

1:20

I might also add this in file number board bill 60, which does not require any signatures, only qualifies as a restaurant part.

1:32

Um you aware, Miss Viper, of all the uh safe lack of a better term and restrictions of that license.

1:42

Yes, you have to call journal here.

1:44

Yes, okay.

1:45

All right, okay.

1:48

Uh any objections in the introduction of that ordinance?

1:51

Yeah, and the next thing is the uh introduction of file maintained regarding the applicant by the XI division.

2:00

Any any objections in the introduction that file?

2:05

Yeah, okay.

2:15

I said before, this is no requirement for uh approval signatures, given it's filed in the board bill 60.

2:25

I see no reason why this premises would be a detriment to the neighborhood.

2:28

So at this time, I'm approving the application.

2:32

Excuse me.

2:32

The application has been approved.

2:35

The hearing is concluded.

2:36

We're now going out the record.

2:38

Okay, we're now on the record in the matter, the liquor license application for 282 LLC doing business at firehouse 282, located in 1315 North Banner.

2:53

This was filed originally in the board bill 60, and uh there was a protest taken out by the neighborhood representative, Mr.

3:01

Down in the Boone, and uh as it stands today.

3:07

No one met their burden uh under the protest, which requires for the uh both the uh applicant and the protester after the protest has been uh official.

3:27

They they both have to get the majority of signatures in the categories of qualified property owners and qualified tenants active defense within the potential circle.

3:38

That didn't occur, but we'll run through the numbers here for the record.

3:43

Uh okay.

3:46

Uh we're gonna introduce first thing we're gonna introduce certified copy of St.

3:52

Louis City Arguments 71819 that governs the issuance of worker licenses within the city of St.

3:58

Louis and any objection to the introduction of that arguments, okay.

4:03

No objection to that.

4:05

Next thing is a file maintained regarding the applicant and the protest by the XI division.

4:13

Any objection to the introduction of that file.

4:17

Okay, no objections.

4:18

All right, uh, we'll go to the signature now requirement at this stage of the protest for a majority in both categories for both the applicant and the uh protest.

4:35

So the applicant is uh total of 13 property owners within the petition circle, majority which is eight, the applicants through four in that category, that that doesn't make the majority, and the terms of uh tenants occupants in the area, total 32 uh majority of which was 17.

5:01

The applicant secured six assorted 11, so that that didn't fall by the category either.

5:10

Uh as far as the uh protest represented goes again total 13 in the area, eight is the majority.

5:22

Um that individual got four, so there's four missing error in terms of tenants occupants total 32 got 17.

5:32

Uh so there's a total of 11 shard in that category for neither party that met the burden under the ordinance how it works.

5:45

Um the burden falls on the uh on on the on the applicant.

5:52

So at this point, uh I have no no reason but to declare the uh the protest isn't not paid.

6:06

Uh and I don't know exactly the uh you want to withdraw this again, sir.

6:19

Um meaning well, you withdraw it, then we can you can refile, but it's getting to the point.

6:29

We're gonna have to take some.

6:31

I'm gonna say you're gonna somebody's gonna have to go to circuit court and get this percent.

6:36

Okay, so you can't keep over here.

6:38

Right, we have to refile the application.

6:40

That costs a lot of money, right?

6:41

Because we just go on around and start it.

6:43

Yeah, so if you don't withdraw it, then I have to deny it, then you have to wait at least two months to apply.

6:51

So however you want to do it's all uh we're we're not applying again.

6:57

I mean we just keep going around and round in the circle.

7:00

So what what other choice do we have?

7:03

Well, I I don't know.

7:05

I I feel bad for it.

7:06

We're we'll go to court.

7:08

Okay, well I'll deny it, then maybe you have something to do.

7:11

Okay, yes, sorry.

7:13

Uh okay, do you have any any comments, Mr.

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Mead about any of this?

7:18

No, sir.

7:19

Okay, all right.

7:20

Uh well the the uh application at this point has been denied.

7:26

The applicant can refile again in two months.

7:30

Uh and at this point, the uh hearing is concluded, and we are now going off the record at this year.

7:37

Excuse me, uh this means that uh you say he didn't make it an item like it, right?

7:45

But it goes to the protest, right?

7:49

No, it's the burden then falls to the uh to to the applicant.

7:54

I have no choice according to the arguments, but if the neither one of them makes it, then I either have to get the opportunity to withdraw or deny but where we're at now you want to deny it.

8:09

Okay, all right.

8:12

We'll deny it.

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Summary of Proceedings

St. Louis City Excise Commission Hearing on Liquor License Applications - September 11, 2025

The St. Louis City Excise Commission held a hearing on September 11, 2025, at 9:07 AM to consider two liquor license applications under Board Bill 60. The first application, for baked and Boiled LLC, was approved without opposition. The second application, for 282 LLC doing business as Firehouse 282, involved a protest where neither the applicant nor the protester secured the required majority of signatures, leading to denial of the application.

Discussion Items

  • License Application for Baked and Boiled LLC (1801 South 9th Street): The applicant, represented by Miss Virginia Kill Gallon and managing officer Miss Alexandria Piper, sought a full drink license, Sunday drink license, and sidewalk cafe license. Excise Agent Donna Wisdom presented the file. The commissioner introduced St. Louis City Ordinance 71819 and the excise division's file without objection. Noting that the application qualified as a restaurant under Board Bill 60 and posed no detriment to the neighborhood, the commissioner approved the application.

  • License Application for 282 LLC (Firehouse 282, 1315 North Banner Street): The application was originally filed under Board Bill 60, but a protest was submitted by neighborhood representative Mr. Down in the Boone. Under the ordinance, both the applicant and protester must obtain majority signatures from qualified property owners and tenants/occupants within a petition circle. For the applicant: among 13 property owners (majority 8), 4 signatures were secured; among 32 tenants/occupants (majority 17), 6 signatures were obtained (falling short). For the protester: among 13 property owners, 4 signatures were secured; among 32 tenants/occupants, 17 signatures were obtained (also not a majority because the applicant failed). The commissioner stated that since neither party met the burden, the burden falls on the applicant. He offered the applicant the option to withdraw and refile later, but the applicant declined, preferring to go to court. Consequently, the commissioner denied the application, noting the applicant may refile after two months.

Key Outcomes

  • Baked and Boiled LLC: Liquor license application approved.
  • 282 LLC (Firehouse 282): Liquor license application denied due to failure to meet signature requirements. The applicant may refile after two months.

Meeting Transcript

Okay, we're on the record the matter the liquor license application for baked and boiled LLC located at 1801 South 9th Street. This is a license for a full drink, Sunday, uh drink, full drink, sidewalk cafe, present at the hearing, and is Ms. Donna Wisdom, excise agent for the excise office for City of St. Louis, Miss Virginia Kill Gallon agent for the applicant, and Miss Alexandria Piper Piper, the uh managing officer, the applicant, the Miles McDonald, we have the excise commissioner in the city of St. Louis is now 9 07 a.m. on September 11th, 2025. Okay, you're familiar with a lot of the stuff that works. Okay, the first thing we're gonna introduce and exhibits is a certified copy of St. Louis City Ordinance 71819, which governs the issuances of working licenses within the city of St. Louis. I might also add this in file number board bill 60, which does not require any signatures, only qualifies as a restaurant part. Um you aware, Miss Viper, of all the uh safe lack of a better term and restrictions of that license. Yes, you have to call journal here. Yes, okay. All right, okay. Uh any objections in the introduction of that ordinance? Yeah, and the next thing is the uh introduction of file maintained regarding the applicant by the XI division. Any any objections in the introduction that file? Yeah, okay. I said before, this is no requirement for uh approval signatures, given it's filed in the board bill 60. I see no reason why this premises would be a detriment to the neighborhood. So at this time, I'm approving the application. Excuse me. The application has been approved. The hearing is concluded. We're now going out the record. Okay, we're now on the record in the matter, the liquor license application for 282 LLC doing business at firehouse 282, located in 1315 North Banner. This was filed originally in the board bill 60, and uh there was a protest taken out by the neighborhood representative, Mr. Down in the Boone, and uh as it stands today. No one met their burden uh under the protest, which requires for the uh both the uh applicant and the protester after the protest has been uh official. They they both have to get the majority of signatures in the categories of qualified property owners and qualified tenants active defense within the potential circle. That didn't occur, but we'll run through the numbers here for the record. Uh okay. Uh we're gonna introduce first thing we're gonna introduce certified copy of St. Louis City Arguments 71819 that governs the issuance of worker licenses within the city of St. Louis and any objection to the introduction of that arguments, okay. No objection to that. Next thing is a file maintained regarding the applicant and the protest by the XI division. Any objection to the introduction of that file. Okay, no objections. All right, uh, we'll go to the signature now requirement at this stage of the protest for a majority in both categories for both the applicant and the uh protest. So the applicant is uh total of 13 property owners within the petition circle, majority which is eight, the applicants through four in that category, that that doesn't make the majority, and the terms of uh tenants occupants in the area, total 32 uh majority of which was 17. The applicant secured six assorted 11, so that that didn't fall by the category either. Uh as far as the uh protest represented goes again total 13 in the area, eight is the majority. Um that individual got four, so there's four missing error in terms of tenants occupants total 32 got 17. Uh so there's a total of 11 shard in that category for neither party that met the burden under the ordinance how it works. Um the burden falls on the uh on on the on the applicant. So at this point, uh I have no no reason but to declare the uh the protest isn't not paid. Uh and I don't know exactly the uh you want to withdraw this again, sir. Um meaning well, you withdraw it, then we can you can refile, but it's getting to the point.

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