Roll call, please.

Fuy?

Here.

Coleman?

Here.

Johnson.

Kim.

Here.

Yang.

Chair Jones?

Here.

Five present, two absent, one being excused.

The first item on the agenda is the approval of minutes.

Minutes twenty-five dash fifty-one.

Library board minutes twelve three.

Um this is the approval of the minutes.

I'll take a motion from uh Councilmember Yang to approve the minutes.

Is there any discussion?

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Five in favor, zero opposed.

The minutes are adapted.

The next item on the agenda is resolution twenty-five dash one nine three three.

Approved library debt write-off for certain debts incurred prior to twenty twenty-four.

Thank you.

So this item is related to um library materials debts.

Uh, and basically uh forgiving those debts and you know, restoring our patrons access.

Um the exact amount is is to be calculated, but that's basically what this item is.

Um I would like to move version three of this, so uh approve this as amended.

Is there any discussion?

All those in favor say aye.

I all those opposed.

Five in favor, zero opposed.

The resolution has been amended.

Is it adopted?

Adopted as amended.

Yep.

Um the next item on the agenda is resolution 25-2003, authorizing certain activities to support a cooperative relationship between the St.

Paul Public Library and the friends of the St.

Paul Public Library.

So this is a resolution that basically um, as it said, is authorizing a relationships with the friends of the library.

We appreciate very much so that um we can engage in activities with them, whether it's you know, accepting funds or um, you know, there's certain materials uh and and things that we share or sell or um that they do for us, and so um that's basically formalizing this uh this relationship.

And so just want to recognize that Bethrans is here, and we really appreciate your your partnership uh and all of the work that you do for us.

So um, with that, I'll take a motion from um Councilmember Coleman to approve this item.

Is there any discussion?

Yes, Councilmember.

Thanks, Chair Joest.

Well, want to echo your thanks to the friends.

We are so glad to have friends like you.

As I think Director Burns says often and beautifully.

Um just wanted to confirm because if looking at the resolution, it seems like many of these things have happened in the past.

Is this are we just realizing now that we need this formality, or did something in the past expire, or is there something new happening?

Just want to understand the context of the um I will turn it over to Director Hill for it.

Uh Chair Jose, Council President Naker.

Oh, we've been advised that it's a good practice to do this annually.

So um we'll uh tend to see that on an annual basis.

I think you saw it this time last year as well.

So no significant changes, just uh good to have it on the record.

Thank you.

Any other questions?

All right.

Um, I think I had a motion on the table of Councilmember Coleman to approve this item.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Aye.

All those opposed.

Five in favor, zero opposed.

Motion has been adopted.

The final item on the agenda is staff report 25-276, Rondo Community Library update.

I'd like to welcome up Director Hartman to give us an update on the many things that have been happening with our transition of the Rondo Community Library.

So I'll turn it over to you, Director Hartman.

Chair Jose, thank you so much.

And um, before I start, I just uh want to thank everybody um on the library board for your city and community leadership during um unprecedented time.

So I appreciate your attention to this matter.

Um, and um look forward to continuing to partner with you and others in our city.

Um, and and I also want to acknowledge Chair Joe's to council member Bowie who were at our our grand opening of the Rondo Community Library at our Halle Q Brown Community Center on Friday.

And um, I'll get to that in a minute, I guess.

But today what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna give you an update on the temporary location and an update on also the renovation of our permanent location, and then I'll also provide an update on the planned community engagement that will inform our renovation.

Um so on Friday we had uh an open house and uh a ribbon cutting, and um I heard from so many people that it was a difficult week and a difficult day, and they were so pleased to be in community with us, and um, to celebrate um uh the important continuation of library services in the Rondo neighborhood.

So um really a gift.

Um, Councilmember Bowie.

I had to include this picture of you because it was so good because there was some kids that like cut the ribbon like too soon, and it was great.

And then also we kind of like redid it with another ribbon.

So it really was um a joyous event.

Um, as you all know, um Benny Roberts with Halle Q Brown is an incredible partners to the library and to the city, and of course, to many of you around the table.

So pleased to be there, pleased to see so many elders um come through and so many folks who could give a tour, a tour two.

And um, I know uh some of you may have been able to stop by.

Uh you are welcome to stop by at any time, and staff can give you a tour, and you are also welcome to reach out to my office, and I would be so happy to meet you there and uh walk you through the space and answer any further questions that you have.

Um my favorite is the two girls reading in the chair, right?

That's a library, right?

So I we heard so many people say, Well, it really feels like a library, and wow, is this space bigger than what I thought it was?

So I really uh and tremendous amount of uh thank you and gratitude to to my team uh at all levels for for putting this together in a relatively short period of time.

So I just uh these pictures don't do it justice, but I want to make sure that um that you all know what the library services we have in that temporary location.

So we have our collections, books, DVDs, newspapers, and more.

Our programs Storytime, Fun Lab, Createch, Homework Center, Reading Together, those continue at our temporary location.

Our library services like Crop, which are um social service providers, uh, open house uh to provide um coordinated housing and other supports for folks, open lab, uh computer classes, uh a partnership program called Open to Business that supports entrepreneurs, and uh we have an ongoing partnership with Ramsey County City of St.

Paul Public Health, uh called our public health and public places, and they continue to be there like they were at our Rondo at our previous location.

Uh I also want to um let you know that uh these updated program schedules is on our website.

We also have many, many copies to distribute to folks when they come to our Holly Q Brown Community Center.

Um, as you can see, our homework center um remains operating Monday through Thursday, uh reading together the same.

Uh we continue to provide a snack, um, an after-school snack for um kids and families, um, our story time, uh our fun lab, our fun lab is a program for um elementary school kids.

The createch is our uh equivalent for teenagers, crop, uh computer classes, um, and uh then something new that uh we started doing in the previous location, which is just a coffee and community gathering on a weekly basis for folks to come in and talk about whatever's on their mind and and give us their perspectives on library services.

So I really value that.

Um I want to mention a couple of the partnerships that are really important here.

So the programs are being held in our library study rooms, the study rooms that are inside the library space, and a program room.

And then um all Hally Q Brown services are operating as planned and as they have been, including their food shelf and their other programs.

Our St.

Kofa Reading Program, or not ours, NIDCAD Sankofa Reading Program.

Um will uh Marvelin is smiling because she's a special connection to it.

Thank you, Marveln, for your support of Sankofa.

Sankofa will continue to be a present and it will run out of MLK Rec.

So we'll do two cohorts of that.

And MLK Rec is partnering with the library to host one session per week of CREATEC and our computer class and fun lab.

And I think this is a great way to further activate their space in collaboration with us and to blend those two different audiences.

The kids that they're seeing every day after school at MLK, uh, we haven't been seeing at the library, right?

So it's a great opportunity to cross those two things together.

Um library materials uh are listed here, everything that you would uh expect the library to have DVDs, picture books, uh, adult, adult nonfiction, lucky day, which I think all of you have received my my pitch about lucky day, which is um come into the library and if there's a book that you've had on hold or um you're on a long waiting list, it might be your lucky day, and there might be a copy that you can pick up just that day.

So those are books that we don't allow people to put holds on, but as a way to encourage folks to come into our space.

So those are available and a rotating CD and LP display.

We did hear um I had a couple of conversations with some elders at the event who said, Well, uh, why don't you have this book?

So we are on it.

I want to let them know that, and the folks that I talked directly, like I already gave the list.

We are on it.

So um that's exactly the beautiful opportunity that we have every day in libraries that folks come in and they tell us what they want, and we go and get it.

So that uh that'll continue.

I want to speak to meeting rooms, uh, as I know the uh our permanent location has a high usage of meeting rooms.

So Rondo Community Library at the Halle Q Brown Center has two study rooms that can seat up to four people each.

It also has program space outside of our program hours for 35 people, and so both of those things can be reserved on sppdell.org.

It will start next week on the 20th.

Then the Halley Q Brown Community Center also has rooms to rent, club room A, C, and then the canteen, and you can call Highly Q Brown directly for that.

And I also want to make sure that I give a pitch to other meeting rooms across the city as a resource during the time that we're relocated at Halley Q Brown.

Um, George Lattermer Central, Highland, um, and some of our rec centers as well.

We've seen a lot of people using Frogtown, and so we really appreciate that too.

We work really closely with our parks to make sure that we can refer folks to what they need if what their first choice isn't available.

So the Rondo Community Libraries open our regular hours, 59 hours per week, seven days a week.

Those are our current uh location, our current hours there.

16 library staff are now assigned to the Rondo Community Library at Halle Q Brown Community Center, and there was about 20 before at our permanent location, and so those four people have been offered temporary reassignments and have taken temporary reassignments.

Then you just walk one block.

It's plenty and plenty and plenty of parking for library patrons in the main lot, at least 80 spots.

If that can if that that would be amazing if we ran out of um parking spaces, and if that happens, then I'll make sure to work with Director Rodriguez and uh Benny Roberts to find another solution there.

Uh I want to just mention that library safety specialists are also present at the Rondo Community Library at Halle Q Brown during every open hour.

Um that location as well as all of ours have safety playbooks and standard response protocols for emergency situations.

Social service providers are present at our weekly crop that includes Radius Health, Minnesota Community Care, and others that are not mentioned here.

Um additionally, we welcome everyone who's able to follow our code of conduct or not, however, uh homeless shelter.

So we refer folks to other partners.

Um this is our practice on all locations.

Our library staff and our mental health professional will continue to coordinate with familiar faces and with our heart team in connecting community members to the resources they need.

And so if unsheltered uh community members are in need of services, the library staff refer accordingly.

And um, we're staying in regular um, in some cases, daily conversation with Halley Q and with the MLK rec about services and safety.

And so if there are additional crisis or other levels of support needed during the period of our lease, uh we have the resources to assist and we'll be on that right away.

And Halle Q Brown also has a lot of experience, also super um supporting folks who are in crisis.

Our asked to you is please help us communicate about this temporary location.

Um that that's our number one priority as it relates to that organization.

We've communicated uh via email to patrons who have marked Rondo Community Library as their home location.

Um we've also sent it out through a newsletter, and um, we welcome folks to sign up for that newsletter so they're getting sort of proactive information.

It's on our website.

Our locations have been changed on Google Maps and Apple Maps, uh promoting it on social media, more to come there, info in the library, and then partner in media outreach, and also we know this this is a change for folks, and so we'd appreciate your help there.

I do want to acknowledge that we know we don't have a big enough banner a sign on that location, so that's forthcoming.

And in addition, we know we need a larger sign on our permanent location.

So we had a um a couple of delays there.

So thank you for your patience there.

That's for sure coming.

Questions about Halle Q Brown.

Otherwise, I'll I'll move into renovation at the door.

But um, I just want to say uh, Director Hartman, before we move on to the renovation, just thank you and your team so much for all of your work uh for the temporary location, the Halle Q Brown Center.

Um, House Member Bowie and I were there, and I there were the pictures don't do it justice.

There were so many people there, and just the energy and the joy in the room, and just how how good it felt to be with everyone in in community there.

It it was it was an amazing event, and so I'd encourage everyone to come and check it out.

I was also um just totally blown away by what your staff was able to do with the vision they had for that space.

Um, it was I didn't know what to expect.

Um, and it it was great.

It was really great the way that they they um they made use of all of those spaces to provide the services that you know we that that our community members need and that we're at the Ronda Library and just such a great job.

It was it was a really great event.

I was happy to be there.

Oh smaller boy.

Thank you, Chair Joes.

I just also want to just echo um appreciate just all the hard work that went into it.

It really revamped and brought so much life in that space.

Um, you know, like Chair Jose had mentioned.

Um, I I didn't know in what way we were gonna pull it off.

You know, um around the library is so big and so we have so much material, um, but made it happen, and I just want to just congratulate you all.

Also, just like the showing.

Um, you know, the there were so many board members and elders there, there are young people there.

Uh we had live music from Walker West Academy.

I mean, we had some really good food, and um, just you know, creating a space for people to just come together.

So I really felt like last Friday was uh it felt like a community reunion.

I think even in my remarks, I had said I feel like you know that date felt more like a happy new year than the New Year's Eve or the New Year's Day that we had this year.

So I wanted to say appreciate it.

I do have a question, but I was just gonna wait for um the presentation.

Okay to ask my question.

Okay, sounds great.

Any other comments before we move on, Council?

Thanks so much, Chair Jost.

Uh, thank you so much, Dr.

Hartman.

This is really it's exciting to hear about, and I'm sad that I wasn't there on Friday.

It sounds amazing.

I know that we're way too early to have any usage data for the temporary location.

Did you usage data?

Sorry.

But I'm just curious if you've been hearing anything anecdotally from staff who are there over the weekend or the first couple of days of this week.

If you have a sense of if people are finding it, if people are using in, you know, if any sense that we have will be helpful.

Yeah, Churchill's councilmember Coleman, thanks for that question.

Um, it's certainly like some folks are still uncovering it.

I don't have any specific use data, but it's quieter.

Yeah, so that's a part of what we're um really pushing is to help people understand that the larger banner will help that.

And um what we've observed is that once people find it, they're like, oh, I'm gonna tell all my friends, but we know we have uh um more work to do to help folks understand where we've relocated to and what services are available there.

It's a fair question.

Thank you.

Any other questions before we move on?

Great.

Go.

Okay, thank you.

So I know you're just as curious about uh the rent of the planned renovation for the Rondo Community Library, and so I wanna I wanna speak to where we are in that service in that, and and also just kind of like restate some of the information we shared before.

The improvements of the location at Dalen University are informed by ongoing patron and staff experience and feedback, community-guided community first public safety, um the library's enhanced safety plan and best practices for crime prevention.

And the timing is informed by the availability of these one-time funds that um that we have for this project and for our lease at Halle Q Brown.

Um happily um the library has found a way to leverage some other funding and adjust our internal timeline so during the time we are closed without extending the closure timeline.

We will also be able to make technology rich improvements and play and learn investments in the Rondo community library.

So next month we'll be back here to um talk again about transforming libraries now that a lot of this work is underway.

Um but you may recall that the transforming library vision and funding includes technology and play and learn investments in all of our locations.

So originally Rondo was slated later for that, but given that we're closed, um, we really heard the the challenge of um well, let's make sure that during the period of time we're using it to the best of our ability.

So we'll be making um technology improvements and play and learn improvements in that space without extending the existing closure timeline.

The fun just oh yeah.

Uh Council President Naker had a question.

Oh, I didn't mean to interrupt the slides.

Um, but thank you, Chair Joast.

Um, director, that makes a lot of sense to use the time when it's closed to make those improvements.

But didn't we?

I thought we ribbon cut a brand new play and learn space at Rondo.

Yeah, um uh Born Chair Joe's council president Acre, a few years ago we did um a revamp the play and learn space.

It's very well used and needs a refresh.

So um that is a part of what our work is to make sure that as we um touch all of these libraries, we're making them as best we can.

Um and uh it's not a it's not a revamp, right?

We'll keep the same murals and some of the pieces we've already invested in, and there's some also some work and some feedback that we've heard from community members and families about how that space could be even better.

Any other questions?

Okay.

Go ahead.

Okay.

Uh so the budget for the technology specific work, it's already secured.

It's from a grant from the state of Minnesota.

And that will be coming to city council later this month for your approval.

So did you decide to do that?

And the budget for the play and learn space investments is already secured through private funds from the Friends of the St.

Paul Public Library.

I want to um share with you again the renovation timeline.

Um and the main idea here is that um I have committed to Councilmember Bowie and commit to all of you that um this will be the longest possible.

This will this timeline I hope to be shorter.

But based on what we know, we would reopen our permanent location by the end of 2026.

And I will be working with my team and we'll be working with purchasing and our design firm to see where there are opportunities to shorten that so that we can reopen that location as soon as we can because I recognize that that's really important to us and to the community that it serves.

Certainly at our open house and ribbon event.

We'll have a survey for patrons.

And what we do when we make technology improvements is we send an email to everybody who's booked the community meeting rooms in the last year.

And so we'll do that here.

And we'll also be doing a caregiver and family engagement with job voting about the youth programming and story time and focus groups with particular groups.

And Rondo staff will be tabling at key neighborhood events as well.

So it's really important surveys and conversations at larger events, including IFTAR.

And we do not have a date for IFTAR yet, but when we do, we will absolutely make sure that all of you get it.

So I think the most important thing here is how important it is for us that everything that we're doing in the library is informed by community members who use the library.

So a reminder during our temporary relocation, some of our administrative staff are still offed at 461 Northdale.

The mobile library continues to operate.

That's what I got.

All right, any questions for my colleagues?

Go to Councilmember Woo, first and then Council More.

Thank you, Chair Joe.

I have a question particularly with the um temporary location.

So it's a station right next door to the Rondo Community Education Center.

If you can speak to if there's any uh even if it's informal or formalized like partnerships, I can imagine that you know it's more accessible now to younger kids, especially being at Halle Q Brown.

But if you can speak to any partnerships with the school district or specifically to that site.

Chair Joe's Councilmember Bowie, thank you for that question.

I reached out to the uh those principals.

Um, one of them was at the grand opening.

Um, so we're look forward to like a different kind of relationship.

And um directly our youth services specialists, our staff are in regular communication with schools in their district.

Sometimes that communication goes through the media specialists, the folks that are the school librarians or the um the family liaisons.

Um, but in particular, that looks like coming, making sure that we go to classrooms to support the summer reading program and um this the district schools around um summer learning loss and also coming in to promote in the case of um high schools or middle schools our readbrave program.

Thank you.

Council More.

Thanks, Chair Jose.

Well, Dr.

Harman, I want to say thank you to you and your team for literally all the heavy lifting that went into relocating the library over to Halle Q Brown.

I am very pleased that it's been a great success and to see the joy on the faces of our elected officials and our community members is very, very rewarding.

I wanted to take this opportunity to share um the um feedback that I shared with you when we spoke recently, just so that I can let you all know um my thoughts too as I play back the the experience on when we first heard about the um the closing of Rondo Library, the temporary relocation, and then you know, getting to hear some of the um feedback that I shared with Director Hartman is really that when we as a board like we do hear about hey, here's like a plan that we've crafted.

I I would really like to know the the tensions within it too.

You know, like we know that um not everybody is always gonna be happy.

There's always gonna be folks who are in agreement and not, and some people who are really eager to share input.

And uh when we get a plan, it's really important for us to understand like what are those tensions so that we as a as a board um when people reach out to us, whether it's our city staff or community members, we we aren't caught off guard when those tensions do arise and we can navigate them.

And I know that all of us here we are problem solvers.

We, you know, we're in this work because we are eager to solve problems and we bring that spirit with us to the table.

And um, and so that's just you know, like the the um the uh like transparency that I that I ask for just as I think about the Hayden Heights Library renovation happening in my ward and the council uh president, you and your award one day, you know, like pretty soon here.

I I hope Riverview Library is going to be in line too for renovations.

And um also I think it's really important for for us as a board to have a game plan on what we do whenever our libraries do have to close down for renovation.

I'm trying to figure out all right, well, when Hayden Heights is closed down for this year, what does that look like for our community in the Greater East Side?

Does that mean that they are without a library the entire time?

Where are we going to find partnerships at their schools with nonprofits nearby to also do a temporary relocation too?

And I think that um right now is a really pivotal moment for our board here to really figure out where we are at moving forward, knowing that we have so many great projects lined up and that we want to have lined up for our communities here too.

And so overall, the it's been I I'm really glad that we got to this point.

I think there were many hurdles that we um that we went through to get here, and I really commend you, uh Councilmember Bowie for really letting us know as your colleagues where your community has been at, you know, from the ones who are supportive to the ones who are not supportive because for me initially, like I I was very opposed to Rondo Library being closed, and I was very honest and transparent with you about that.

And um, I do think that the conversations with our staff members and also with you, Director Hartman has been really helpful and really enlightened me to see that there, I think for me, the biggest benefit to the project here.

There's overall is that Rondo Library did not have to go through a very intensive long process of finding dollars for it to get the renovations done.

It seemed like, if anything, it's like this expedited process that happened, which I'm really grateful for, so that the community there got what they needed to make sure that improvements were made into the library that will get us closer to safety, but that I also want to recognize will not solve all of the safety issues over at the intersection.

Like there's gonna be greater um a partnership that has to happen and communication between you know lots of government entities from I hope the county, you know, also um just even like you know, our transit partners too.

And so um I I hope that you know, moving forward, especially for this year, um, that that is work that will continue to happen.

Um, because I also don't want to see the our city be uh be scapegoated for the the uh crime, the violence, and just the issues that arise over at that intersection.

Like we we all have a part to play when I and when I say that I'm talking about folks who are in the elected positions, appointed positions, and you know, all of us as the city staff who commit to looking out for our residents every day and and also making sure that Rondo Library remains safe and welcoming to all people, including you know the the green line as well, um public spaces there.

And so I I just wanted to share these thoughts because that I um I have been thinking a lot about it, and with again with us getting closer to the renovation for Hayden Heights Library, it's just um putting it into perspective, you know, like how how real and timely this conversation is.

And so I um look forward to the conversations with you all.

And if anybody would like to chat more with me offline about that, I love the opportunity to do that.

And again, thanks for your leadership to Councilman Rubuy on this and to Director Hartman, you and our staff.

Any other questions, comments?

Council President Agar.

Uh thanks, Chair Jost.

Also, not a question, but thank you again, Director, for this really helpful presentation.

And I just want to thank you, Ms.

Yang.

I I agree with you entirely that I think the move to Halle Q can provide a model not just for the advocacy for the community that Ms.

Bowie demonstrated, but also what to do when a library is closed.

And um personally I would love to have the problem of being worried about where people will go when Riverview is closed because it's gonna be closed any minute now, so we have to worry about that.

Not the case right now, uh, but we will be seen in that position and Hayden Heights is gonna be in that position.

And I I think um I think this is a model to move to a local community center to try to find another location rather than being closed.

Um, I I think is really better than having a community be without a library for potentially a long time.

So I'm hoping that we can use this and be planning now as something that we could we could do going forward.

And it may not be able to be as extensive as what's happened at Heli Q.

I'm amazed actually at how you've really recreated Rondo at Halley Q in many ways.

It's it's incredible.

That may not be possible for a lot of reasons in different places but I think there's probably something in between you know complete closure and having some services available somewhere else in the neighborhood so eager to continue thinking that through any other questions comments Councilmember Bowie.

Thank you.

I just want to um I do appreciate you Councilmember Ying just sharing your thoughts and also this is kind of like the process I think the context really matters too in terms of you know if people are questioning like where did the page was turned right or what not changed our mind but how do we get to a place that we all can be in alignment.

I think the biggest thing was just making sure that our community partners had what they needed to actually create space and maintain the library.

One of the things I would say you know I definitely am behind champion this as a model I I think we you know in the in the midst of renovations or transforming our libraries we need to still have our services available so you know I'm here to be an ally in that work.

But one of the things I would say that makes this not so much unique but just some of the qualities to look for Halle Q Brown that space where Rondo Library is at um was a early childhood learning center.

So it already had like the the structures and like the infrastructure and and really the the space that community already known for for young people.

And also Halle Q Brown is also you know in a process as archiving their history and and documenting the history so a library makes sense and even just being very collaborative and adaptive we know our nonprofits have had to support people and their entire livelihood right whether from young people into seniors and Halle Q Brown you know that's in ingrained in their mission.

I know for you know I'm really really confident that that exists you know in in other neighborhoods it's not just only unique to Rondo are unique to Halle Q Brown.

But I think this is a really great opportunity for our leadership and for our city to start expanding our community partnerships.

I feel like we only benefit you know we only benefit especially now where um we're you know in our public spaces where sometimes there's questions around like what are safe havens you know especially in these times I think our nonprofits are better suited you know to provide those community safety and that care and um that protection you know um and also supporting us with building that public trust.

So thank you Councilmore Bowie any other questions or comments um I I just want to say thank you to to all of you for your comments at the end I think um director Hartman I as we're going through you know what's happening at the the Ronda Library at Halle Q Brown just hearing from you and your updates like what's going well what could be improved I think that would be helpful just going back to I think one of your original comments about what we're what we're hearing with what's going on that would be helpful.

And I think that everything we were just discussing just exemplifies how vital our libraries are to our community and how big of a deal it is to you know potentially close the Rondo library to move the Rondo library and as we're thinking about these transforming libraries projects now is a good time to council and council present makers points to to be able to plan and see if a temporary relocation is an option.

In this situation this worked out really well with the timing of of the funds as well as the you know to be able to have the contract at Halle Q Brown it worked out well with Halley Q Brown and we have an amazing partner there with Benny Roberts the director and so I think that's something similar we would be needing to look for in each of your communities or any community and also having the funding available and the timing of the funding I think that that is a huge constraint.

I know the Hamlin Midway library we're not able to open a temporary relocation there but that I mean that's a significant cost and something that you know we will you know be able to work together to hopefully find solutions for if if we have that money available but that's I think a major challenge that we face it's a big deal to to relocate a library and be able to make that happen.

And so I look forward to you know partnering partnering with with both of you is and with Director Hartman and you know the administration as we're looking into what some of those options might be for the transitions for those libraries and um to Councilmember Bowie's point these community partnerships are I mean we I don't know how we would have done this without without Benny and the Halle Q Brown Center and so those are just such um such critical relationships that that we need in our community to support us to support us as a city during this time.

I want to thank all of our staff and our our frontline workers that are at the libraries right now that are providing those spaces and doing the great work they do every day to bring our communities together into places that are safe.

So thank you so much.

Um with that and nothing else to come before us, we are adjourned.