3:11Council President Naker.
3:15I'm sorry, seven present, none absent.
3:17Thanks so much to everyone for joining us at our city council meeting today.
3:20We appreciate you being here, and we invite everyone to join us in standing for the Pledge of Allegiance.
3:46I know that we are going to be pulling item twenty-one for separate consideration.
3:49Is there anything else to be taken off of consent?
3:53Seeing none, I'll take a motion from Vice President Yang for the balance of the consent agenda.
3:56All in favor say aye.
3:58Six in favor, none opposed.
3:59The consent agenda is adopted as amended.
4:01Item twenty-one, resolution twenty-six-one one five zero.
4:05Recognizing the historic legacy, cultural preservation, and community contributions of the Rondo Days drill teams and dance groups.
4:33So today is Ronda Day's week.
5:03And when I think about our city's vitality, it isn't only defined by our budget or by building more buildings, but it's really true or truly rooted in arts and culture in the legacy preservation of what shapes our neighborhoods.
5:18And for generations, uh all of these drill teams and dance groups have done exactly that.
5:25They have built belonging for our young people while creating memories that have united our city.
5:30And I just want to thank each and every one of you and hundreds of people out in community who and also the folks who are watching today, um, helping to cultivate not only the conversations, but truly trusting uh me as their council member to really um cherish and nourish and recognize um this community-driven effort and this community-driven effort to do something very ambitious with bringing all of the drill teams and um dance groups over generations together for this reunion, but also to expand pathways for our collective healing.
6:10And if you know the story about Ronde, it's more than just uh destruction, it's about the rebuilding, the repairing, and the restoring, and this has been so restorative for all of our communities as we've been honoring and recognizing um many of the efforts of the drill teams, as well as the continuation of building that legacy.
6:32So uh for all the millions of viewers at home, uh you're invited, even though you're not here, but you're also invited to join us at Rondo Days this Saturday at the MLK Center, where we'll be doing our official ceremony, and all my colleagues are also welcome to join.
6:50It is now my honor to invite the representatives of each of the legacy Rondo drill teams in dance groups for it.
6:58I'm going to invite each speaker in the order um of which I uh invite you.
7:04You're gonna be receiving the resolution, and we just ask um for each of you to have two minutes.
7:10Um you well prepared, I know everyone's well prepared.
7:13We've been waiting for this day.
7:14Uh, but we're gonna invite uh Shash Sha Suler, that's a s or excuse Garland as a second speaker, as well as Elder Lynn Graham and an elder Jean House Foster.
7:32Good afternoon, everyone.
7:34Uh my name is Shasu Adeley.
7:37Um it is an honor to accept this recognition on behalf of uh my beloved grandmother, Miss Lutham O'Wiley.
7:43In 1972, our grandmother and grandfather, Mr.
7:50Uh Lou Wiley had a deep love for children and an unwavering belief in their potential.
7:55She understood that young people thrive when they are given opportunities to express themselves in positive, supportive, and nurturing environments.
8:03That vision led her to find the Lou Wiley High Steppers in 1980.
8:07What began as a dance line soon grew into a celebrated performing arts organization that embraced multiple genres of dance and artistic expression.
8:28Their creativity and artistry helped shape a style that was both distinctive and sophisticated, making the high steppers a source of pride throughout the community.
8:36Over the next 15 years, the Lou Wiley Highsteppers performed across the state of Minnesota, including an appearance at Super Bowl 26.
8:45They became known not only for their exceptional performances, but also for their stylish costumes inspired by the rich traditions and historically black colleges and universities and their renowned dance teams and marching bands.
8:58Among all of their performances, Rondo Days held a special place in the hearts of the high steppers.
9:03It was more than an event.
9:05It was a celebration of community, culture, and connection.
9:08To be a high stepper meant more than learning choreography.
9:12It meant standing tall, taking pride in who you are, and striving for excellence.
9:16It meant showing up, practicing, perfecting your craft, and as our grandmother would say, strutting your stuff.
9:24Today the legacy of the Lou Wiley High Steppers lives on.
9:27The spirit, confidence, discipline, and sense of community that Miss Wiley instilled in her students continue to echo far beyond Minnesota.
9:35Many former high steppers have gone on to become outstanding individuals, leaders, and contributors in their communities, carrying her lessons with them wherever they go.
9:45We are deeply grateful for this recognition and proudly accept this award on behalf of Miss Lutham O'Wiley, whose vision, dedication, and love touched countless lives and whose legacy continues to inspire generations.
10:07My name is Garland Jackson, St.
10:10Paul resident here, representing Yamoja Percussion Unit.
10:14I was also a member of the Elks Drill Team and the African Perfection Drill team in the 80s, 90s, and 2000s.
10:22I didn't come prepared to speak today.
10:23I just wanted to support the movement, appreciate the invite.
10:27But I just want to ask, encourage the council to continue to support the city's youth and uh drill teams in particular, the arts, music, dance, and uh just appreciate your support and appreciate being there.
10:48Hello, my name's Lynn Graham Washington, lifelong resident for 72 years in the Rondo community.
10:58And uh drill teams have not only been the heartbeat of the Rondo community, but they were also my heartbeat.
11:06I grew up on the corner of St.
11:09Anthony, which is now westbound entrance to I 94, and um across the street from the old Maxfield Elementary School.
11:19And the Elks used to practice in that playground every day.
11:24And when you would not only hear the drum beat, but you would also hear the bugle call.
11:31If y'all know what it is, do do do do do do doot, do doot, do do do.
11:41Then you hear the drums kick in.
11:44It was Willie Burrell and the Elks Drum and Bugle Corps, sponsored by Peter's Meets.
11:51They were like the Pied Pipers.
11:53We'd stop what we were doing, ask our parents, could we run down and go march with the Elks down the street?
12:00When the freeway was under construction, they also practiced on it.
12:06Rain, mud, and heat.
12:10They would practice that freeway up and down till they till it was completed.
12:17I wanted to play the drums back then, but only the girls could be in, and they did skirts and boots, and I didn't want to wear that.
12:29So it became they became the Golfer Elks Large with Granny Bridgeford and Gladys Miles, and they were called the highlighters.
12:39Um I was too old to play the drums with them, but then I seen the Lou Wiley high steppers at Selby Days, and I knew I needed to feel fulfill my dream.
12:50That parade inspired me to start a drill team.
12:53We started out through the St.
12:55Croix Valley Boy Scouts as explorers, but in order to make sure I could get insurance and reach a wide range of at-risk youth between the ages of five and twenty one.
13:07We worked with University of Minnesota Extension Services and the 4-H Foundation.
13:13I got insurance, that's what I needed, and we became a St.
13:20Because the Falcons, the Perikin Falcon is a wide respected bird due to its high trainability, versatility, and availability.
13:33Parrican Falcons were an endangered species, and so are our African American youth.
13:40But the Falcons were removed from the United States Endangered Species list in 1999, but our youth are still on that list.
13:50A paracron falcon never lets her young out of the nest until they are ready to make it on their own.
13:58Through the Falcons, I was going to make sure I taught our youth the skills they needed in order to survive in this world.
14:05So through gardening, survival camping, experiencing the underground railroad with Kamal Kambui at Wilder Forest, computer technology with Philip True at the University of Minnesota Technology Center, and to keep passing grades in school.
14:23We did more than entertain and dance based on the 3Ds, which are determination, dedication, and discipline, and the five piece, which is proper preparation prevents poor performance.
14:38We became who we are, the St.
14:40Paul Falcons drill team and drum corps, providing entertainment throughout the Midwest, from Sway City, Iowa to the Green Giant Festival in Lesur, Minnesota, the Timberwolves and Viking Half Times, Minnesota State Fair, St.
14:56Paul Winter Carnival, Minneapolis Aquitine, and the Bud Bilikan Parade and Competition in Chicago.
15:03Just a few to mention.
15:05But Rondo Days was the most important event of all.
15:08These varied teams mentioned right here would prepare to compete against each other.
15:14We fought with drums, not with guns.
15:18The Falcon reached over 250 youth through the 4-H program in the Rondo, Frogtown, and St.
15:26Many of these youth have now their own businesses, work in the education system, are proud parents and have professional careers.
15:36Some are still carrying the baton.
15:38Brian, Selena, where are you?
15:43And this young man right here, Garland.
15:46Some are not called dance lines.
15:49It's still the art of drums and dance, but with a new flavor.
15:54So keep it up, because it's still the heartbeat of the Ronald community.
16:00Thank you very much.
16:09The innovation, the ingenuity, the excellence.
16:13And Rondo is still rising.
16:15Rondo is still here.
16:16I just want to say thank you so much.
16:18I also want to recognize we have here our reparations commissioner, chair of the preservation and archive committee here with us as well, who's also a Rondo drill team participant.
16:35Follower, honorary, okay.
16:39I beg to be on the drill team, but no, I was I was a supporter, but here I am.
16:44So thank you so much.
16:46We're going to move for final adoption and open up for any discussion.
16:51Thank you so much to all of our speakers for so eloquently painting a picture and joining us today.
16:56It's an honor to have you with us.
16:57There's a motion for approval.
16:58I'd look to my colleagues to see if there's any discussion of the motion.
17:04Well, thank you all for being here today.
17:06And just overall, I will just share that as stories were shared.
17:11I think I was envisioning the entire picture that you created in real time in my head, so it was making me smile.
17:19And I really just appreciate you guys taking the time to come here and to be a part of the city council meeting.
17:24I think it's really important that the public record reflect the history that is embedded in the work of the drill teams, especially and and their impact in the Rondo community.
17:32And so we've spent a lot of time, uh, Councilman Rabuy and I as well being intentional about ensuring that the record reflects the work of so many different entities, especially within the black community and the black story and the black narrative.
17:44And this is a part of that.
17:46So just really appreciate you all for being here and participating in that because that's ultimately what you are doing.
17:51I encourage this opportunity, which I think is the first time that this has been recognized, uh, unfortunately, in our history here, the city.
17:59But because of that, it is history in the making as well.
18:03And so just look forward to this being captured and added to the archival work as well as it continues to preserve the story and the heritage of the heartbeat of Rondo, and this is definitely a part of that.
18:14So thank you all, and I am very supportive of the resolution.
18:18Great work, Councilman Rabuy, and making sure that all different things are upload uplifted, and I really appreciate you taking the time to do that today.
18:28Any other discussion of the motion?
18:31Seeing none, all in favor say aye.
18:34Seven in favor, none opposed.
18:36The resolution is adopted.
18:37I think there's a request for a quick photo.
19:00So come and recognise me.
19:06Let's get a little closer.
19:21So we'll be dedicating it to Halloween.
19:33Item 24, ordinance 25-4, amending Title 4 of the St.
19:37Paul Administrative Code to add chapter 92, titled Tree Preservation for City Sponsored Construction Projects.
19:43So this brings us to the ordinance section of our agenda.
19:45If you are here for the first time, if you're not one of our millions of regular followers on YouTube, um, all of our ordinances have at least three readings.
19:53The first reading is a staff report where we hear about what is being proposed.
19:56The second reading is a public hearing where we hear comments from the public about the idea, and the third reading is final adoption.
20:00And the third reading is final adoption.
20:03In some cases, we take more time for final adoption.
20:06In this case, we've taken over 16 months for final adoption because sometimes we need to take the time to get it right.
20:17First of all, to my legislative aide, Megan Jackett, who shepherded this through, who facilitated our pig meetings, who made sure that every single I was dotted, T was crossed, and that everything in this ordinance was uh ready for prime time and that all of us were fully educated about it.
20:32So thank you to Megan.
20:34Um I also want to thank the members of the public input group, the lovingly referred to PIG for being part of this effort.
20:41I want to thank everyone who's weighed in on this, all 17 district councils for inviting us to come and present about this ordinance, um the Parks Commission, the Mayor's Advisory Commission on Disabilities, and all of the other groups that weighed in.
20:52Um and I'm I want to say how excited I am to have this ordinance on the books.
20:56We are finally giving trees um a voice at the table early on in the process.
21:01We are recognizing that trees are public infrastructure.
21:04Um we are recognizing the critical importance that so many people all across the city on every single corridor in every neighborhood feel about the importance of trees for for climate reasons, for equity reasons, um, and for just the vitality and livability in our city.
21:19Um so with that I will move approval and I would look to my colleagues to see if there's any further discussion of the motion.
21:26Thanks, Council President.
21:28I uh want to commend you and also your legislative aid jacket, all of the community members, the staff members who was a part of this work, um, because it it's been a long time coming, I've got to say.
21:40And um I do uh just want to acknowledge that um you know, even though it took a really long time, me it was necessary for this work to be done in a way that was equitable and right to the best way possible.
21:52And so I really believe that you know, um bringing in different stakeholders, especially our community um residents to be a part of the work is very important.
22:01It's how we can make sure that um, you know, even tree preservation, which falls right into the bucket of equity work is at the forefront of decision making and even um development and projects that come before us in the city here rather than an afterthought.
22:15And so the work has to be very intentional because equity work has to also be very intentional too.
22:21And so I uh care a lot about this.
22:23It's how we can combat climate change and build towards environmental resilience and provide everybody with the higher quality of life.
22:30It's especially important for neighborhoods that um that are in areas of concentrated poverty that tend to experience higher display uh levels of disparities when it comes to health and economics.
22:39And so I'm all in support for it.
22:42Thank you, Vice President.
22:45Uh thank you, Council President.
22:46I uh want to thank you and um your aide, Megan Jeckett, for all of your work on this and also all the staff and everyone involved.
22:54Um I I just am totally impressed by how much effort that you both put into this and your ability to um be able to take a uh a really complicated problem and look at it from all sides and listen to um you know very differing point of views and opinions and being able to bring everyone together on something they feel good about.
23:18I think we heard that a couple weeks ago in the public hearing.
23:21Um and I I just I just think that that is an example of how we can uh bring something forward with the community in a way that is what's best for our city.
23:32I'm really excited about the ordinance itself too, because um we have experienced challenges when it comes to a lot of our new construction projects, whether it's buildings or roads, um, or just you know, new uh new the new vision that you know we we have for our city with um all of these projects, and we know that we can do those projects and we can preserve trees at the same time.
23:57And I think that that uh is so important um because we're gonna have a lot of those projects moving forward.
24:03And as um Council Vice President Yang mentioned, you know, there are huge disparities across our city when it comes to our tree canopy, when it comes to you know what is the the temperature uh in the city and what do our residents experience.
24:16And um it'll it'll take a while for you know trees, trees to grow, um but this makes sure that uh we have something in place so that all of our residents have the opportunity to benefit from uh what trees provide.
24:30So thank you very much to everyone involved.
24:34Um any further discussion of the motion.
24:37Uh seeing that, I want to thank again all my colleagues for your support.
24:40Um all in favor say aye.
24:42All opposed, seven in favor, none opposed.
24:44The resolution, the ordinance is adopted.
24:47Uh item 25, ordinance 26.
24:55Oh, and actually, I'm so sorry, before we move on, I completely forgot to thank I thanked them last week, but I meant to do it this week as well.
25:02Our park staff, our public work staff, our consultants who worked on this project.
25:06Not only for starting the applause just now, but also for being uh critical partners in this.
25:11We could not have done it without you.
25:12And um, I think as I said last week, I the process really is the outcome, the partnership that you showed, the collegiality, um, the working relationships that I think were built throughout this process between the two departments and teams is really gonna be what makes this ordinance successful from day one and your willingness to put pen to paper on all the details of the ordinance, the rules, the standard operating procedures, not just the ordinance language, um, makes all the difference.
25:34So please pretend like that was all said before the vote and the applause.
25:39And ordinance twenty-six-thirty five, amending chapter sixty five of the legislative code pertaining to golf courses.
25:45Now for something completely different.
25:47This is a first reading, so we will have a staff report.
25:50Hello, good afternoon, Council President, Council members.
25:53Um yes, this is a uh zoning text amendment.
25:56Um this is the first reading.
25:58Uh so there'll be a public hearing and then a second reading.
26:02Um I'll give a little bit of background um and then uh we can talk about the planning commission uh review and their recommendation.
26:09Um and then uh district council sent a letter of recommendation as well.
26:14Um so the amendments originated from a request from the Department of Parks and Rec.
26:20Um they would allow the Parks Department to light the driving range at Highland Golf Course until 10 p.m.
26:28for operations and then until 10 p.m.
26:31Uh and then um it would also provide uh allowance for current lighting at Como golf course um that is used in the winter for cross-country skiing and other winter activities.
26:44Um the amendments were initiated by city council um in resolution two six-nine six two.
26:52Um uh the city council partnered with parks and recks department and then sent the amendments to planning commission for their review, which is required under Minnesota State Statute.
27:02So Planning Commission has reviewed the zoning amendments.
27:06Um this is the uh proposed amendments from City Council.
27:11Um so there's just changes to uh subsection C and D.
27:16Um it's a removal of a restriction on pitch and putt miniature golf courses, um, which is an outdated uh restriction.
27:25So removal would allow there's no plans for pitch and putting, but removal would allow um parks and golf courses to do more varied golf um activities.
27:37Um and then changes to D would uh remove the lighting restriction.
27:43So the proposed words are golf courses that are equipped with lighting for night use shall not operate after 10 p.m.
27:52Um after planning commission discussed the course, the the uh amendment, um they reviewed it, discussed um the entire uh golf course subsection, and had a uh change that is um different from the original uh amendments that were proposed by council.
28:12So the changes in red um and it is a change to the proposed line D.
28:18Um the city council recommendation is to strike line D completely.
28:23Um there are not similar regulations on other sports related to lighting, um, and the parks department has a whole process for um how they're they operate and uh public process to weigh in on operations like lighting.
28:39Um they're side by side original proposed from council and then the planning commission recommendation that is different.
28:50Um the discussion was uh at Planning Commission was that the um proposed amendments are in alignment with the comprehensive plan.
29:00Um they um are in line with other rec facility zoning regulations, which are none um for other sports.
29:09And um it would allow golf course operations more hours and more access um for accessibility um for our public golf courses.
29:19And then the historic barriers to recreate recreation are also discussed in relation to golf, um, which has had some historic racial barriers.
29:29Uh so again, no other sports are regulated in in the same way that golf courses are in the zoning code.
29:36Um then uh the planning commission recommended uh considered this at the July 22nd um sorry at their meeting.
29:47Uh and then um this their recommendation along with um the Highland District Council's resolution in support will be considered at the at the um public hearing on July 22nd.
30:04Um and that's my presentation, and I can stand for questions.
30:07And the um Andy Rodriguez from Parks and Rec is also here if there are questions for Parks and Rec.
30:13So just to be clear the language in front of us is the original staff proposed language or it's the planning commission proposed language.
30:19The language in front of you is the original proposed amendment.
30:24Um you have the planning commission changes as well that you can consider.
30:30Any other questions during the staff report part of this ordinance?
30:33Obviously, we'll have a public hearing and consideration in the next few weeks.
30:37Thank you, Council President.
30:38Um just in short, I really appreciate um just with the slides.
30:43Um if we could just summarize um, because I was just trying to follow if I could ask Canet Lee, like what problem are we looking to solve?
30:52Is it accessibility alone?
30:53Or if you can um speak to just kind of what is this, how would this and what solution are we bringing forth with this amendment?
31:01So it was originally proposed to allow um later use at Highland Golf Course, so they could be open until 9 p.m.
31:09and then have time to clean up until 10 p.m.
31:12Um and the lighting is uh just for their driving range.
31:16Um and it's just to have like slightly later hours um to allow for more revenue for parks and rec, um allow more accessibility for more people to stay just a little later.
31:28Um thank you, Council President.
31:29I can um add to that too.
31:31The I I don't recall what year the lights were installed, but they were installed I think three years, four years, two or three years ago.
31:38I'm losing track of what year it is.
31:39Um with this intention.
31:41Uh it and um they have been on for um I think cross-country cross-country skiing, and so the goal is really um to provide more opportunity.
31:51The golf, uh the driving range does get used quite a bit, um, and it would provide quite a bit more revenue, and also there are golf lessons at um at Highland.
32:00Uh and you know, there are um just a lot of opportunities there for for folks to get to get more use out of the golf course.
32:10Any other questions for staff?
32:13Otherwise, thanks so much.
32:14And this item will lay over.
32:17Uh yes, this item will lay over to July 22nd, ordinance 26-36, adding chapter 86.13 to the administrative code to require city council approval of mixed municipal solid waste contracts.
32:28On this item, uh, there isn't a staff report per se.
32:31I will give a council member report, which is basically that this ordinance is a uh proposal to require that the city council have the authority and be required to approve um municipal solid waste contracts.
32:42It came to uh my attention when we were considering our most recent organized trash collection contract that this was not a contract that the council approves.
32:51We approve um any smaller contracts than this, and we approve many contracts that affect our constituents' lives much less than organized collection.
32:58Um and so the proposal here is to give the council more of over an oversight role um in approving those contracts.
33:05Um and hopefully also greater transparency to the public um as to what those contracts contain as part of that process.
33:10So that's my council member report by way of staff report, and I'm happy to take any questions.
33:19This ordinance is laid over to July 22nd.
33:22Item 27, ordinance 26-32, amending appendix C of the legislative code relating to Northern States Power DBA XL Energy Electric Franchise.
33:30So this brings us to the public hearing section of our agenda.
33:33Um so the way public hearings work is that when your item is called, we ask that you come up to the front.
33:38Um you will have two minutes to speak.
33:40You start please with your name and where you're coming from.
33:43Um and you don't need to adjust the two microphones.
33:45You can stand up straight and leave them where they are, they should pick you up just fine.
33:49Um when you're done testifying, we ask that you sign in with your name and where you're coming from on the two sign-in sheets on either side.
33:55Um we do require that folks stick to the subject at hand, so make sure that the subject that you're testifying on is the subject that you're speaking about.
34:02Um and again, two minutes do go by quickly, so if you find that you're running out of time, there is a timer right in front of you so you can track yourself.
34:09Um and it's my unenviable job to keep everybody to the two minutes.
34:12We also accept testimony via email um if you or in writing if you feel like you uh need to give us more.
34:18Um so with that, this is the public hearing on item 27.
34:21Is there anyone here to speak to this item?
34:29Thank you, Council, uh President and Council members.
34:32John Burdy from uh West Side of St.
34:42Voice activated projector.
34:45Um we joke that it's voice activated, but we actually just have to wait for our media folks to turn it on, which is which has not happened yet.
34:52But it will any moment.
34:54Well, here's your um ordinance uh draft here.
35:00And uh I can understand the intent is to extend it to December 31st because the negotiations haven't been completed.
35:04And I can appreciate that.
35:06It's a 20-year contract coming to an end, so all due diligence, and I know the City of Minneapolis had to do the same thing.
35:13Uh but I would like to point out that there's just going to be a uh you need to, I would suggest that you uh need to make a different version for it uh because uh the uh 2024 last time this these ordinances were amended, um we we had to deal with uh the rate issue.
35:35Here you're dealing with the the actual contract, but you have rates that you haven't adjusted in your legislative text here.
35:44And by that I would have to say that um you could look here at what was done uh by councilmember Joost in 2024, and uh first of all, this is the electric rates that are up, but you'll notice now I don't know if you can see it, yeah.
36:01The schedule of rates was amended.
36:06If you look at the top column there, it was to extend from well, the last column was to apply for from 2025 until 2026.
36:16That's a calendar year.
36:17But the city attorney and the council recognized that this contract would end at the end of uh August.
36:27And so they modified the the uh the schedule of rates, as you can see here, by adding in the expiration of August 2026.
36:39And you can see that on the residential, but that applies on all of the various rate groups.
36:46So um you would need to simply just correct and do what the council did in 2024 by by copying that language.
36:58Purdy, that is getting your getting your you don't want to leave uh you know one third of the revenue.
37:04That is two minutes, but I appreciate your point, and I will follow up with our city attorney's on that point.
37:09Thank you so much for testifying.
37:10Make sure to sign in.
37:12Is there anyone else here to speak on this topic?
37:14Oh well, I just uh I I'll just come back up for the gas one.
37:21Are you here to speak on this topic?
37:28Members of the City Council and the City Government, it is my unenviable task of speaking on this topic and in particular a topic to which the city has acted unilaterally, non-cooperative.
37:40Can you start with your name and where you're coming from, please?
37:42Uh my name is Lily Eggers, I'm a Ward 1 resident.
37:46Um, and I'm here to talk about uh a public hearing item that remains notably glaringly off of this list.
37:54It has been exactly one week since the assistant mayor told in a private call to service providers, shelters, and the department of affairs.
38:05I need you to stop talking on that topic, but there must be a public hearing on this item.
38:09I appreciate your point.
38:10Thank you for raising it.
38:11We need you to speak on this topic today.
38:13Will will there be a public hearing on this item so that members and residents of the camps that are about to be shut down have a chance to actually voice their opinions.
38:21Thank you for your testimony.
38:22Please make sure to sign in.
38:24Is there anyone else here to speak on this topic?
38:31This ordinance will we need to close the public hearing.
38:33I'll take a motion for Ms.
38:34Jose to close the public hearing.
38:35All in favor say aye.
38:38Seven in favor, none opposed.
38:39Public hearing is closed.
38:40The ordinance is laid over.
38:42Item 28, ordinance 26-33, amending appendix B of the legislative code relating to Northern States Power, DBA XL Energy, Gas Franchise.
38:51This is a public hearing.
38:52Is there anyone here to speak on this topic?
39:01And uh the gas, as you probably all know, is uh receiving an 8% rate increase in the next several weeks, I think September 1.
39:10Uh in the uh 2024 uh conversation on our uh franchise fees, we pointed out that the increase that was taken there by eliminating the shelter of a uh May excuse me, May uh time frame, which was exempt from natural gas uh franchises, we added that back in.
39:41So instead of there being a six-on, six off, uh it became seven and five.
39:47And that raised everybody's rates up to now.
39:49I just want to make clear that the way these rates are standing until until August 31st, uh those represent the highest franchise fees in the state of Minnesota, barring none.
40:03And so um I know that we can't talk much about what's happening on the future.
40:08I did want to point out that you need to change the correct the uh the uh franchise rate chart to to reflect collections after August 31st, but I also want to ask the council to please, as you as you sit in front of, and I appreciate the last ordinance resolution you made, that you need the council needs to make their input on how these 20-year agreements run and how much they're gonna be assessing it.
40:36Very difficult to understand uh without some analysis how much the city is collecting from us, but other cities have made it a little bit easier, but in the end, we've got to address the residential side and the fact that we've lost you know how you make up that revenue.
40:55You know, we lost uh North Star Steel, we lost uh uh Horn or Waldorf, big gas user, big electric users.
41:02You know, is the burden gonna condense upon the residences?
41:08Make sure to sign in.
41:09Is there anyone else here to speak on this topic?
41:13Seeing none, I'll take a motion from Ms.
41:14Jose to close the public hearing.
41:16All in favor say aye.
41:18All opposed, seven in favor, none opposed.
41:19The ordinance is laid over and public hearing is closed.
41:22Item 29, resolution public hearing 26-153, approving the application of Irish Fair of Minnesota for a sound level variance in order to present amplified sound for a Twin Cities Irish Fest event in August 7th, 8th, 9th at 200 Dr.
41:37Boulevard Harriet Island Regional Park.
41:38This is a public hearing.
41:39Is there anyone here to speak on this topic?
41:43Seeing none, I'll take a motion from Vice President Yang to close the public hearing and approve.
41:47All in favor say aye.
41:50Seven in favor, none opposed.
41:51The resolution is adopted.
41:52Legislative hearing consent agenda items 30 through 36 are before you for your consideration.
42:06We normally have a staff report, and she is coming right now.
42:20My apologies, Council President, Council members.
42:22Uh the only item I have to pull is the Portland address and the other.
42:36Appeal of Tenant Michael Smith to a rent stabilization determination at 1517 Portland Avenue Apartment D.
42:42Council President, uh, this is a rent stabilization appeal.
42:47The appeal was made by the tenant of Unit D.
42:52The matter under appeal is that there be an exception to the rent cap, which is set at 3%.
42:59So landlords in the city can increase the rent annually up to 3%.
43:04Anything beyond that does require um the Department of Safety and Inspections to review and approve.
43:10Their approval is a preliminary approval pending a final determination.
43:17Final determination could be after 45 days passes and no one appeals, or final determination could be made by the city council here.
43:25That's what you're doing today.
43:40Reasonable return on investment has a decent handful of provisions, and I did pull it up here in it.
43:52It's all golf things.
43:55So what's in front of you here is the code 193a.06.
44:01And I will walk through.
44:03There are the first level of analysis provided is what the department does, and the department compared in this case, the 2023 set of books with the 2025 set of books.
44:19And looking at that, they said 17.9% is what is justified in this analysis of income and expenses in 2023 to income and expenses in 2025.
44:34I looked at it again, which is what you have me do, and I found that there were a couple of aspects of the analysis that weren't adequately considered in my view.
44:48The first has to do with here in this section of the code, and it speaks to failure on the part of the landlord to provide adequate housing services or to comply substantially with applicable state rental housing laws, local housing, health and safety codes, or the rental agreement.
45:09My specific items that I look at in that that I think are problematic would be that the window in the bedroom could not open and stay open on its own.
45:24That is considered an emergency egress, and you need to have two ways to get out of a sleeping room.
45:30One would be directly to the outdoors, which this window would do, and the other can be through the house, so through the closed door.
45:39If it can't stay open, you can't use it safely.
45:42Another thing that I thought was key was that the fire extinguisher needed to be replaced and was not fit for use.
45:52With respect to my other concern, and this is really the equally important, is the way that the code is constructed when it comes to utilities, is this.
47:42Nobody is, but it's this isn't a matter of dragging in a bad landlord.
47:46This is the valuation of this application and the inspection is a snapshot in time.
47:54Unlike most things you see from me, it's not a correction order that got issued where we're giving a certain length of time to be to for it to be remedied.
48:04This is what did it look like right now, which is a separate kind of a conversation.
48:15And the um the owners could be referred back to the Department of Safety and Inspections to revise their application, or better still, to completely submit a new application, and that would be under whatever rules the department has for dealing with reapplication.
48:35I'm not involved in that process, but that would be a solution.
48:40Again, and finally, uh, as you hear from me with all of these, the uh recommendation and the decision that you are making today pertain only to unit D within this building.
48:51Are there any questions before we hear from the uh appellant?
48:57Um then in this case, this is the legislative hearing for item 33.
49:01If you are the appellant, this is your time.
49:16Council President, Council members, my name is Abby Hansen.
49:20I work at Housing Justice Center.
49:21I'm here on behalf of Michael Smith, the appellant, who will speak in just a moment.
49:25Our ask today is that you adopt the hearing officer's recommendation and grant Mr.
49:30We think there are at least two legal bases on which you can affirm the recommendation.
49:35The first is habitability under the ordinance, habitability must be considered.
49:40Section 193a.06C mandates that this council deny any rent increase for units in which a landlord has failed to comply with Minnesota Habitability Standards, Minnesota Habitability Standards, include local code.
49:54As you can see in the code, and as the hearing officer referenced, there's an inspection report in the record uh that shows there are open code violations here.
50:03I also do want to note that this is a Class B property whose fire certificate of occupancy inspection is one year overdue.
50:10Smith will talk about, there's maybe additional issues that would arise, and so those condition issues themselves will allow you to affirm this recommendation.
50:20The second issue on which you can affirm the recommendation is utilities.
50:30All utilities at this property, gas, water, garbage, common area electricity, those are passed through to tenants.
50:38When uh utilities measured by a single meter are passed through to tenants.
50:43Minnesota law has specific disclosure and apportionment formula requirements, as explained in the materials that we submitted.
50:51Those are not being met here.
50:53And under Minnesota law, failure to follow that is itself a habitability violation, and that brings us back to subdivision C, meaning that this council cannot approve this rent increase.
51:05So I would ask this council to adopt the hearing officer's recommendation and grant Mr.
51:11Smith's appeal, and I'll hand it on over to Mr.
51:13Smith who has more to say.
51:15Thank you very much.
51:16Make sure to sign in.
51:21Hello, my name is Michael Smith, and I have lived at 1517 for more than a decade.
51:27I've learned to navigate an old building.
51:30Don't run the coffee pot when the toaster is plugged in.
51:34Never plug two things into the bathroom because you'll blow a fuse.
51:38Don't run AC units in both rooms at the same time.
51:43And don't use the stove because the gasket isn't complete, and it will set off the fire alarm.
51:50Doing all my little tricks and even leaving the front half of my apartment with nothing plugged in.
51:57My electric bills, which I pay all of, have soared and become unmanageable.
52:04I have a large chunk of my wall that sends a moisture of moisture meter all the way past 99 and is only getting worse.
52:14I had a meeting with my father and Robin to discuss rising costs in electricity and rent in the first week of August 2025.
52:24At this meeting, I pointed out the oven and showed the water was coming in from the roof and that the wall was wet.
52:32I understand that costs are up, but I can't carry the burden of paying more for an apartment that doesn't meet my basic needs.
52:41And the rising cost of gas, water, trash, and common area electricity are already passed on to me as a tenant.
52:50The building is now for sale for the third time since I've lived there.
52:56The hallways haven't been vacuumed.
52:58There's bugs and cobwebs since my neighbor moved out last month.
53:04The lawn has not been mowed or tended to.
53:07If they are not willing to do basic maintenance to sell the building, I think it clearly shows they're unwilling to do maintenance in general.
53:18Please adopt the hearing officer's recommendation.
53:22Thank you very much.
53:23Make sure to sign in.
53:25I'll take anyone here else here to speak on this legislative hearing.
53:37Make sure to start with your name where you're coming from.
53:43Along with my husband, Rich Cronfeld, we own the building at 1517 Portland Avenue.
53:48We purchased it in September of 2022.
53:51The complainant, Michael Smith was already a tenant in the building when we purchased it.
53:56Somehow it was related to the prior owner, so there was no damage deposit.
54:01We thought maybe we need to institute that.
54:03But we thought, no, we're not going to do that.
54:05We're going to leave the situation unchanged, try to foster good relations with our tenants.
54:10We kept the former owners' leases in force when we purchased the building.
54:15A rent variance had been completed by the former owners just a few months before the sale, with the resulting rent for the unit being $1,324.
54:24That amount reflected a base rent of 1,060 and monthly utilities on average of $264.
54:34This is what we inherited from the prior owner.
54:37Between two uh 2023 and 2025, we implemented a couple of increases to the base rent.
54:44We received a 5% variance through the city of St.
54:47Paul in 2023 and raised rents accordingly.
54:51Other increases did not exceed the 3% cap in any 12-month period.
54:56Due to huge increases in property taxes and insurance, as well as rising costs all around.
55:02Um we went through the lengthy variance process again, end of last year, receiving the recommendation for the 17.97% variance at issue today.
55:13We raised the rent for apartment D to $1,500 on January 1st of 2025, decreasing it to 1,466 later that year due to a decrease in average utility costs, which was likely a result of a new thermostat regulation system we had installed at a substantial cost.
55:31After receiving notice of the variance granted, we raised rent for three of the four apartments, each around 15%, not the full 17.9% uh to commence on May the first.
55:43For apartment D, the base rent was scheduled to go from 1266 to 1461, an increase of 195 or 15.4%.
55:54So we do need you to summarize your testimony since we're past two minutes.
55:58We do need you to wrap up your testimony since you're past two minutes.
56:01So if you can try to summarize your ask or um we can also accept the written testimony.
56:07So we've also I'm responding also to Mr.
56:11Smith's first letter saying that the apartment was um too expensive.
56:17Research shows that a two-bedroom apartment in the Lexington Hamlin South neighborhood, which is the neighborhood, run between 1,500 and 2100 a month, um, with the median price being 1700.
56:29Classic older traditional brick walk-ups, such as ours typically start around 1500 and go to 1700.
56:36Um let's see, a similar property.
56:43Um in his initial complaint, he asserted that his electric bills had doubled and said he got zero help from the landlord.
56:51We've contacted XL Energy on his behalf.
56:54We purchased the home served program for all the tenants.
56:59Um we have also um circled back with XL and brought in home serve.
57:05We've done what we what we can.
57:07Can you make your ask of us and then we need you to sum up?
57:09Yes, um, we would like you to um grant the um variance.
57:14Um, and I would like to speak to the deficiencies.
57:17We really unfortunately I'm so sorry, we don't we limit things to two minutes, so I think we've heard your ask, we'll accept written testimony if you have it.
57:23Um thank you so much.
57:25Um else here to speak on this legislative hearing.
57:29Seeing none, I'll take a motion from Ms.
57:31Bowie to close the public hearing.
57:33All in favor say aye.
57:36Hi, um, my name is Linda Voigt.
57:38Um, I reside in Frogtown in Ward 1, a neighborhood that was tragically uh you know, decimated and cut off from uh Rondeau from a unilateral governmental uh decision.
57:50Smith, I believe that everyone deserves housing that meets their basic needs, and I think that the city and the county and the country is failing our residents.
57:57And we are here to demand a public hearing on the eviction plan because we don't have time.
58:02They're going to be evicted on August 5th, and we need to talk to our election officials that we whose paycheck.
58:14All in favor say aye.
58:16All those are seven in favor, none opposed to the public hearings closed.
58:21Thank you, Council President.
58:22Uh, and thank you so much to our hearing officer, Mr.
58:25Smith for being here, housing justice network, as well as uh um the property owners.
58:30I just have just a clarifying question.
58:32Um, I I came prepared uh reviewing all the information and came prepared with my uh decision, but I just want to have a clarifying uh question just for the record, since the landlord is here.
58:45You had mentioned that um this is more so just like a based off of the assessment of how they applied that it does not meet the conditions to um grant that variant, and you mentioned uh DSIs and it you know is between DSI and the applicant, particularly around reapplying.
59:06And I was looking at the ordinance.
59:08Is there like a grace period in between of when a property owner can apply and say they are denied and then when they can reapply?
59:16I was wondering if there's a grace period with our policy.
59:21Council President, Councilmember uh to the best of my knowledge, uh the code is silent on that matter, and that would be a policy internal to the Department of Safety and Inspections and how they administer the code.
59:36Uh so I I feel um uh confident we're moving forward with the motion.
59:41Um I just want to, well, one, I would just say I do plan on moving forward to granting the approval of the recommendation from the hearing officer based off the findings, and I just wanted to just uh reiterate you know some of the things.
59:54Uh I think we have a really strong uh ordinance here with our tenant protections.
1:00:00We actually have nine um um conditions in terms of which someone uh property owner has to meet in order to uh receive a variance to uh go above our our rent cap and then in this case uh with the applicant of applying for the um the housing services uh or particularly or they did not meet um um condition number eight uh with the egress window, um the fire exchanger, um also having the fees, utilities as a pass through.
1:00:36Um I think all of those uh question uh Minnesota Hapitality are oh my gosh, I'm trying to say the word, but you know I'm trying to say the standards and which we um have for our housing codes um because of that.
1:00:49That's why I'm moving forward.
1:00:51Um I also want to just like highlight and appreciate um the um tenant being here.
1:00:58It's really important when um we supported the tenant protections um ordinance.
1:01:04It was because of reasons and opportunities like this for tenants to step up and share, you know, what their experience has been like.
1:01:13Um I appreciate you sharing some of the Saint Paul life hacks of living in an old home.
1:01:20Um, being born or raised in an old home, um, particularly in the Rondo neighborhood.
1:01:25I know the feeling of not plugging up the toaster and air condition.
1:01:30Um, and you know, that is even more a reason why we need to have more investment and to our housing and to our repairs um and really helping to improve our our old housing stock here in St.
1:01:43Um, you know, affordability issues are are real, um, and I just appreciate the practice of um this appeal.
1:01:51And uh so because um I am in alignment um with our hearing officers.
1:01:56Um you know I motion to um grant the grant the appeal.
1:02:01So the motion is to grant the appeal.
1:02:03Um any discussion of the motion.
1:02:07Uh seeing none, all in favor say aye.
1:02:10Seven in favor, none opposed.
1:02:11The resolution is adopted.
1:02:13Mormon, is there anything else to come before us for separate consideration?
1:02:16To the best of my knowledge, no one else is here to testify.
1:02:19All right, so this will be a public hearing if you're here on items 30 through 36.
1:02:25This is your public hearing.
1:02:30I'm really gonna reiterate that we need folks to speak to an item on the agenda, so we'll ask you which item it is, and then we'll need you to stick to that topic.
1:02:43Uh we're talking about presently, 3336.
1:02:51Oh, six seconds when we just did right.
1:03:05No, council president, council members.
1:03:08Uh what you have in front of you for this address uh is a tree removal assessment.
1:03:17Uh this tree was deemed to be dangerous.
1:03:20A letter went out um and telling the owner that it was a dangerous tree on May 29th of 2026.
1:03:28The dead tree, which is a green ash, was removed from the yard.
1:03:32The cost of the tree removal was $4,400.
1:03:36Uh, the assessment indicates that cost plus services and fees attached to it.
1:03:42My recommendation is approval of that assessment, but allowing its payment over the course of 10 years in order that uh the property owner can more easily manage the costs.
1:03:54Um, and so this is a public hearing item 31.
1:03:58Do we need to read that in the directly?
1:04:00R L H T A 26-125, ratifying the appeal special tax assessment for property at 720 Cottage Avenue East.
1:04:13My name is OB Smith, and I live in Ward 3.
1:04:16Um, and I'm just here to continue the point that other people have been making and say that people of St.
1:04:21Paul deserve an immediate public hearing on the decision to display members.
1:04:25I'm going to continue speaking until my two minutes are up.
1:04:28Disruption is what we will continue to get until you decide to be transparent with the people of St.
1:04:32Paul until you decide to actually listen to the people who are being affected by homelessness.
1:04:37And then actual public health solutions.
1:04:39We need you to sign in.
1:04:45So we are not going to hold further testimony unless you are here to speak on this topic.
1:04:50So please do not begin speaking unless you're here to speak on this topic, or we are going to need to recess the meeting and not have any further conversation on any topic.
1:05:00So please go ahead with your name and please keep it to the topic of tree removal.