The opening of the official um uh August 7th meeting for the citizen review board.

Um it is now five thirty two and we do have a quorum, so we will start the meeting.

Um uh let's do the uh roll call.

Elise Faker.

Uh Linda here.

Um Ada is missing, uh Don Johnson here, Mike.

Uh Harry?

Here Olivia is missing, uh Peggy.

Uh Somnia?

Here.

Okay.

Um so the first um point of business is that since last in June we didn't have a quorum to ratify the June uh minutes.

Has everyone had an opportunity to look at those minutes?

We can have a July one yeah, no, June.

So in July we didn't have enough people to ratify the June minutes.

So um if everyone's okay with the June minute uh minutes, we need to get a uh a motion to accept the June minutes.

I'll move that.

Okay, second.

Uh it has been moved and second any discussion.

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

So the June uh uh minutes uh pass and now um for the july, I sent out those meetings for the July meeting.

Uh has everyone had an opportunity to look at that.

Uh we did not have a quorum during that meeting, so um the discussion of that meeting is in the uh July uh minutes.

If you have read through that, uh if we can get a motion to accept uh the July meeting.

Uh can we get a second?

Second.

It has been moved and second.

Any objections?

Any discussion?

Can we get a vote on the uh July meeting?

All in favor?

Aye.

Opposed.

No distinction.

So the July uh meeting uh passes.

Um so the next thing on here is the um the um chairman's uh report.

And as of right now, um there's not a report from the chairman.

Um and before we go on, I would like to introduce everyone to our new um student.

Um Mike, not Mike, excuse me.

David.

David is our new summer student.

Uh David has been very instrumental in terms.

David has been very instrumental in helping us get the office reorganized, and he has been a true asset to the CRB board, and we're glad to have him on board.

So thank you very much, David.

Okay, so action items that we need to um get taken care of.

The first action item is that we need to um select a vice chairman uh for the committee.

Um I have I have spoken with Peggy, sort of twisted her arm.

Um and Peggy has said that she would be willing to step into the position as vice chairman, um, unless we have any other nominations that uh people would like to bring to the board for vice chairman.

If not, if we can get a motion to uh accept Peggy as the vice chairman for the citizen review board, I make a motion to uh vote for uh to accept Peggy as the vice chair.

Okay, we have a uh motion on the floor to accept Peggy as the vice chairman.

Can I get a second?

I said okay.

Uh we have a five motion on the floor, uh ready for a vote.

Um the discussion.

Okay, those in favor?

I those opposed, those ascending.

So Peggy is now the new vice chairman for the citizen.

Thank you very much for stepping up to your civic duty, Peggy.

Yes.

Um and now the next item we have is a board secretary.

Um we have anyone who who may be interested in being the board secretary?

No.

Can you tell us what the duties are?

Um actually I was supposed to get that for you guys.

Uh I'll have to bring that up to the next meeting.

So we will table that until the next meeting.

Okay.

Okay.

The next thing we need to do is um on which is really uh a major sticking point, is that we need to uh have the board vote to have evidence that that we can um solicit or purchase evidence.com.

Um and evidence.com is where the police, the Syracuse Police Department uh has all their body cams, their footage and everything on there.

Um it takes uh I think the other day we downloaded a case.

It took almost 35 minutes just to download the case.

Um and the way the process works is that we get a case in, uh complain in, we have to send it up to internal affairs, then internal affairs has to download the case, and then they have to send it to us, and then we have to download it.

So we have that intermediate uh stepping stone in there that if we had access to evidence.com, we could go in and pull those video videos directly from the source instead of waiting for the Syracuse Police Department to send us out.

And I would like to also note that they have been extremely helpful in getting those in when we ever we send up uh within a day or so we'll have those videos for review.

So uh, but again, if we can get an okay um on purchasing evidence.com, that would definitely help out the the organization.

Um we have been trying to get in contact with their salespeople.

Um the police department has given us a contact, but they haven't gotten back with us.

So we're waiting to hear back from them to see how much our license would be.

Um so uh at that point we then bring it to the board um on whether or not uh the board thinks that we can afford to have that.

But like I said, I think it is would be instrumental for us going forward to be able to pull that up.

And the nice thing about it is that you can also go retro back to uh you can go retro to see uh any cases that uh we may have lost files on.

So does somebody have to okay us having access to this?

Or if you pay for it, can anybody buy it?

No, no, uh so uh the police department would be our uh go-to.

They would uh um sort of like sponsor us, but we have to get our own license.

We can't use their license.

So you said that evidence.com or um no, that's what that's what the police department had told us.

So when we're saying they won't give you like a username to get in just to look at what they want you to look at or allow you to look at.

Um I'm not sure on that.

I think we have access to the same information that the police department would have access to once we got our uh username and password to get into evidence.com.

Is it is it similar to um you buy a computer and you pay for $500 for a Microsoft license?

That is good.

Same concept.

Same concept.

So you're buying the license.

We're buying the license, which gives you now your computer has office and all these other things.

Correct.

What so you have to have this system working in your computer so you can go to the police department.

Um that system will recognize your evidence.com system.

There you go.

That is correct.

What's it take?

55.

55.

What's the cost for the license for a year?

Well, see, and that's what we've been we're trying to find out because um they gave us a contact for uh evidence.com, but they have not gotten back with us on that.

So um they won't let you piggyback.

We had looked at Piggy backing that once upon a time, and apparently um there's some stipulation in there that doesn't allow us to do that.

We'd have to have our own working.

It's the network.

Syracuse police department has their own network, and we're on the city network.

So there's a conflict.

So they recognize the fact that you don't you're not I'm a license.

Yes.

Now I have a system, uh, it's called MATLAB for and for my law office, but you can't piggypack on it.

Okay.

So I pay for it, I buy it, I install it.

It's an app, then it says it even says when they give me the updates, it says uh if you're the person, if you are at List My Law Office, if you are this person, click this thing, I click it.

But they recognize my computer, the IP, the whole thing.

That's why I get it.

Okay.

Now they do we will say that they give us permission.

So whenever they send us over something through Exxon, Exxon, which is then we have to click on it.

But when we click on it, we have to click on the download.

So apparently um internal affairs will give give us specifically just that case.

Um, and then we have to download that, and we have to wait for everything to download.

It comes into a zip folder.

Then we have to unlock the zip folder and then download it to our computer, and then share it over to our CRB share drive before we can even watch.

Which is using up a lot of space because the day before yesterday, we had a case that came down that had 83 videos, which took a tremendous amount of time to download, which if they were online, we could just looked at them one at a time and so you'll have total access to what's there.

Right.

Okay.

But they upload whatever they upload as evidence.

Okay, we'll have access.

So we are sort of piggybacking off of the police because they'll upload it and then they'll give us, they'll sign access to our account to access that information.

So here we're just so tonight.

We we're discussing it, but we can approve that we can get it and then find the cost if it is, and if we don't want the it, we won't buy it.

Correct?

Right.

Right.

So we we I guess what we're asking for if we can get a board approval to uh proceed with finding out the price of the evidence.com and then bringing that to the board and then having the board decide whether or not um that's a worthy expenditure for the the CRB.

So you don't know how much R S PD pays, right?

Um they won't tell us I make a motion to explore evidence.com and bring it back to the all the information back to the next meeting, and then we will decide what we're gonna do with that.

Okay, there's been a motion on the floor.

Can I get a second?

Second.

Okay, there's been a motion and a second for us proceeding with figuring out the cost and for the evidence.com and bringing that back to the board for approval on the expenditures.

Uh so now we need to vote all in favor.

Those opposed any dissensions.

Uh motion carries.

So next thing on the agenda is the administrator report, and that should be within your folder.

And I do apologize for not uh getting that sent out there with the rest of this.

This packet right here.

Uh should be C of our CIB monthly report for July.

So one page document.

Oh, okay.

Yep.

Does everyone have it in the folder?

Okay.

Nalita.

Okay.

Good afternoon, everybody.

Good night.

Um July's um activity has been majority of the time spent interviewing for getting the office up and running.

Um we did table at uh the wine and jazz fest on attended that for us.

Um also we had a meeting with uh Syracuse Police Chief that took prior uh took place on the 8th of July.

Um Elise, myself, Michael, and uh were in attendance.

It was a really good meeting.

We got a lot of good information.

We did cleared up some stuff, um questions were answered, and police department seemed to really, really want to work with us and uh get this thing rolling again to make sure that we are all on the same page, which I found to be really really good.

Uh a good step towards bridging this gap in the community.

Um we also attended the mayoral candidates that was held on the 23rd.

Is that the name of the uh I can't remember the name of the downtown?

Um got a chance to meet everybody, got a chance to meet people that are running.

That was a little interesting.

Uh but it was it was something that we we got our face out there, people seen that the CRB is up and moving again, and we're doing some things.

Um they had a couple questions, of course, and of course we got everybody's stands on uh their political stance on running for the city and how it could be better for us.

Uh we spent some time training.

Uh it's people soft, which is uh something that we use and then the training for our new, I think it's like a chronos where we're gonna be signing in.

We're supposed to be using that.

It's supposed it was supposed to start July 10th.

Um, but I don't think they're up and running yet.

Don has tried to log in and can't get in, but they're still uh working on it.

Um so we got more trainings and things that are coming up for the office itself.

Um Don is working on some things for training as well for the entire staff, and we have a new hire that will be starting uh on the 13th of this month.

Her name is Julie Bonifest.

She's really, really, really good.

Um she did very well with her interview.

Looking forward to her starting.

She's going to be the new legal secretary.

Uh and we have more interviews coming up.

Second interviews coming up for the month of August, and hopefully by the end of August, all of our positions shall be filled, and we'll have our office up and running except for the investigator.

The investigator is the last position that we need to fill.

Um they just released it on to Indeed.

I've gotten one resume so far.

Um, and that's all that I have for the investigator.

Um, Don will be stepping in temporarily to do the investigations.

Um, and with him stepping in, everyone in the office will also be trained to do investigations as well as everyone else's job.

So everybody will be cross-trained so that we can all work together in the office.

Um and as Don has already spoke about, there's a referral that was made to Sergeant Brian Grimsley concerning Lexapol and Evidence.com.

So I am still waiting to hear back from Sergeant Grimsley in regards to both of them.

That's my report for the month.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay.

So um report.

So items to discuss uh the upcoming August city events to table at the CRB.

We have um uh put in a request to have a uh uh an opening at the New York State Fair to table at the Pan African village.

However, that space is uh booked right now, so we are on a waiting list to see if we can get in to um table there at the uh New York State Fair.

Um at the Pan African village, they always have a table set up for um uh public organizations to uh come uh and um give this bill.

So um we're we're on that uh list to go in there.

Um we're gonna try to um get on the tabling for the Hispanic event that's on August 16th that's gonna be in Clinton Square.

Uh we'll be touching base with that organization sometime this week to or actually tomorrow um to see about us getting the table there.

Um, because we want to make sure that the CRB is in every event, every cultural event there is in the city.

So everyone knows that um there is an avenue for um if they have a complaint.

Um the next thing we need to do is talk about a date and a time for meet and greet for the board since we are a new board.

Um our board member Lisa Baker um thought it would be a great idea if we had a meet and greet where we spend an after uh either Saturday morning or Friday afternoon over in the office just to get to know everybody and um uh get more familiar with everyone to make the organization go a lot better.

So I have a question.

Go back to the Hispanic event.

Okay, it would be definitely in our benefit.

Do anybody in here speak Spanish other than Ada?

But not much.

Anyways, because for where we find it the fitting of her to be able to be there with us because none of us speak Spanish.

So we gotta is that event coming up.

You said the 16th.

The 16th.

Do anyone know if she'll be here um back in States?

When she said she was going to I thought she was pretty much having the kids till they went back to school.

So I guess one of us we have to check and find out before we we can take well literature over there.

We have it.

Yeah, we have we have we have translated the Spanish.

The the other thing is we can always find a translator to uh that uh sit in with us on the on the board to if anyone has any questions.

I have with David, did we did we put the literature because we were talking about putting literature in different languages?

So can is it possible that we can get that literature for um in Spanish?

You know, our complaints forms and things and some literature already in Spanish.

Okay, that we would have to distribute on that day.

Yeah, okay.

So we gotta make sure of that.

Okay, and uh any any ideas on on what would be a good time for us to have a meet and greet, and it'd be like for a couple hours and then um during that meeting.

What we would discuss is how to use the um the token to access that, how to uh pull up the external drive so you can look at the videos and the data that's out there for the upcoming cases.

Um who are we trying to attract for this meet and greet?

Oh, just the board members.

Oh, that's not what you mean.

It's just for us.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, no, just for the board members.

And even getting some of the committees, because most of the time the hiring committee, we see each other and the police committee we go do, but the other committees aren't strong yet, and they're not put together with uh something on them.

So we need to get and kind of start getting those things together a little bit more and getting activated into uh the positions that we're trying to develop, you know.

So it'll help us through that too.

Okay.

So uh in order to expedite the the the meeting, so um if everyone can at least think about some alternative, at least send in three alternative dates that that you think that would work uh for the meeting, and if you would uh email that to uh Nelise I mean to uh Nolita's been a long day for me.

Uh so um and then that way we can uh pull it all together and then send out a notice to everyone saying stating uh some possible dates.

Um the next thing uh item of for discussion is attendance.

Uh we have had um one member of the board that has missed uh more than five percent um four consecutive meetings.

Um I have drafted a letter to uh councilman Cho.

Um about uh and uh councilman uh uh Marty uh about having that individual removed from the board.

Um I need to get an approval from the board that I can send that letter out uh asking that we get a replacement for that individual.

So if I can get a motion on the floor to move to uh send a letter to uh Congressman, I mean um Councilman Um Choke and Marty and Abby.

Um and then I'll get that uh sent out to those guys tomorrow.

So um so you made a motion?

I made a motion.

Can we get a second on that?

I'll second it.

Um so there's been a motion made and second.

Um all in favor?

All right, those opposed okay.

So I will get that letter out tomorrow to those two.

The other thing is we have two vacancies for the board.

Um both those vacancies are coming from at large.

So I one's quarries.

Oh, okay, one is Corey, and then the other one's at large.

I will also send a an email to all four at large councilman, and I'll send a letter to Corey that says that we need to figure out um who we we can get in as a replacement because we need to have a full operating board.

So and I'll get that out tomorrow.

Okay.

And next thing up is a committee report.

Oh, I just wanted to um I'm sure about uh the first letter deals with the removal of uh this fellow from the board.

Um are you planning to put in your letter that at the board meeting on this date the board voted uh for this person to step down or be removed from the board?

Yes, okay, yes.

That that that would be in the I want them to be aware that a vote was taken.

Okay, and the vote was that this person be removed and now you're putting it in their hands.

Thank you.

Okay.

I would also prefer that you instead of an email that you actually put in letter form.

Okay.

These two vacancies exist, one is a district, one is at large, and we're anxious to have both spots filled as quickly as possible.

So I'll send both an email and I'll send us an L mail.

Okay.

Okay.

Thanks.

And then the next thing up is the need for an external advisory board.

Um that had been one started last year, uh, ran into some um some uh ums and bylaws.

Some laws and by some some some sticking points.

So um we want to uh as a as a board, we want to, I guess, let me let me rephrase that.

As a board, we need to make a decision whether or not we want to um get a get an advisory board set up to review the bylaws and the um and the legislation uh to make recommendations to the board, and then we'll take and make recommendations to the council.

Um so uh if the board's in favor of that, I need to get a motion on the floor to do that.

And um how who sets up the um the number of people on the advisory and how they're chosen.

That was it.

Would that be us or would that be Choel in his group?

Well, and you can make that into a motion that the citizen review board would be the ones that would uh uh spearhead the advisory board on who's selected and how many members and where they come from.

So that was the problem last year.

Yeah, it was that Joel picked everyone.

Yeah.

I I'm confused as to what they really want.

Is someone could someone come if they're coming from the public safety committee actually come to our meeting and say this is what we propose?

Because it sounds like you're talking about an advisory board to advise an advisory advisor.

Yeah, it sounds it sounds redundant.

Okay.

So I you know exactly what are they planning to do, and um they can do that on a on their own without our approval.

The common council could uh establish someone to look over our shoulder.

I suppose if they wanted to, they don't need our approval.

They shut it down.

They should they shut it down.

Uh then there we are.

That's okay.

I'm I'm okay with that if they shut down their own their their own thing.

Uh I'm just confused as to what it is they want.

So well, and what what we need is to have an advisory board that will review the bylaws and the legislation because there's some things in there that's antiquated that need to be removed, uh things that need to be added.

Um that my response to that is isn't that the job of the common council and the public safety committee?

They're already right there.

They created the CRB.

If they want to examine it, alter it, trim it, or whatever.

They that's their job rather than creating another group.

Right.

And see, and I understand exactly where you're coming from, Mike.

The problem is is that the perception.

So if the if it because we are an independent board um to make our own decision, any time we have the council come in and make those decisions, then the pup the general public say, you know, that we're not an independent board.

Right.

So what we're trying to do is to keep that separation from the council and the CRB.

So the citizens understand that we're an independent board.

We make our own decisions, we we review things that we want to have in there, and then of course that has to go to the council because they have to vote on it to ratify it and approve it.

But at least we have we're the ones that that's guiding the ship through the the canal.

So we should be the ones that are reviewing and updating the bylaws.

Correct.

And then just present it to the public safety as this is what we've come up with.

Now the only the only caveat to that is this as an independent board.

I mean, we don't have the time and the expenditure to do that.

So if we could get an out pull together a group of people to do that and then bring it to the board, it's a lot easier for us to look at that and then make a decision on that versus us trying to get together every week, go through all the um the the bylaws and the legislation.

So it and because we want to make sure that it doesn't look like we're biased that if we have an outside source looking at that, bringing that information back to us, and then us making the decision whether or not we approve we approve of that or not.

Um because what we're trying to do is just be transparent.

I see what you're saying.

Here's my my angle is so the common council, in order to avoid public criticism, then selects an ad an advisory board.

They select them, their choices, right, which will now face the same criticism as the common council because they're picked by these elected officials to do the job that the common counselors were elected to do.

It's the same the three-ring circus.

Yeah, the public has the same would have the same reaction.

Wait a minute.

The common council picked selected these folks to do this work.

Well, who selected this person?

Who selected what I'm saying?

You keep going around and around and it continues to grow in its redundancy.

And Mike, and that's what happened the last go round.

Okay.

So the the common council picked the board.

Um the citizen group felt that uh why should they have picked that the certain group of people so all of a sudden that just blew up.

So to to sort of alleviate that, I mean if if the board does that, um but you're just there.

We had trouble last year, we didn't have a quorum last month.

Right.

Now we're talking about the board examining the bylaws.

That will get that will be completed in what do you figure?

2030, 2013.

Yeah, you know, 25.

Right.

We'll have uh in this meeting, won't you?

I I just think it's um I think and that's the reason why we don't want the board to do it.

We want to have an external advisory board that sits down and look at the the bylaws and the legislature.

External advisory board selected by members of the common council.

Oh no, selected by members of the board, uh about of the citizen.

Oh, we're selecting the board.

Yeah, we're selecting them to examine our stuff.

Right.

But when you look at that, it's like who better than the people on the board will know what the bylaws ought to be.

That I know it's time consuming, but it's um, you know, if you put it in another group's hands that don't know what we've been through, and then they have to be figuring everything out, then they have to bring it back to us.

It I mean, I hate bylaws.

I I mean I'm not I'm not saying that this is an easy thing to do.

But we're also we also have bylaws, so it's not like we're creating them from square one.

We're just reviewing them and seeing is everything appropriate, do we need to delete something?

Right.

And I mean, I oh I can't believe I'm saying this.

I would be happy to work, uh well, not happy, but I would work on that, but I think They're being recorded.

I know I would have never said that.

Mike is right.

I mean, what year would we uh have them done if we bring in an advisory group and then have to get them up to speed, and well here's here's the the the off-ramp to that.

So we'd have an advisory board that we would pick members from the community that we think that would be good at looking at the data.

I mean, it could be ex um CRB members, it could be whatever.

And then on the board, we would have at least two members from this board sitting in.

So now you you got the expertise of the citizen review board, you have those external people that we feel that could be uh an asset to reviewing the um the bylaws and the legislation, working together, and that that would uh um help speed the process up.

Well, then there would have to be there would have to be a rule that the advisory board would have to be people that are already familiar with the CRB.

So if people that have been on it before and are willing to sit on the advisory board back in.

One one of the big big reasons I think we came to the conclusion that it would be good is because a lot of the bylaws and the laws that are written already stops the board from moving forward.

So some of that thing has some of those things have to be revised because we can't move and like if we don't have something, we can't do something.

So a lot of stuff have to be revised and looked at so that the board can move forward because it holds them hostage on a lot of the things in the decision making uh process um when you come to cases, come to different things and how we have to run it, and some of it is real like ludicrous.

Which is why we should be represented.

Right, right.

Absolutely.

That's what that's why we says an advisory board based on it to help us move forward.

Yeah.

And update and revise things.

Not for the political.

Well, so we can move forward.

Shouldn't look political.

It shouldn't look political at all.

Well, and the thing is, I mean, we want we want to make sure that we're transparent.

Right.

That uh we don't we're not hiding anything from the general public.

So and and that's why we decided that it's probably better if if the board votes on having an external advisory board, because then as an independent body call can you not call it external?

That makes you happy.

Don't call it external.

No, I mean I know what you're saying.

Because it hopefully it will be some of us, and even I mean, no leaders knew, and she's I'm sure is she's going through getting things up and running, there are things that she's gonna say, well, why this?

Why can't that?

I mean, so she would be a perfect person too.

Let's say she's an administrator for the board.

For the CRB.

So that would be a conflict, seem like she can put the ideas out there, and the board could take them a run with them.

We can all give some information that we think should be looked at, and it'll help, but where we choose them from, whether it's council or whether us, we just need somebody to go in and uh revise some of those laws and bylaws and legislation.

Most organizations that they have bylaws, they have within the organization a committee that deals with bylaws.

That's what they're using the word advisory, but I think it got something to do with the bylaws and the laws from before.

Yeah.

Well, you guys want to table this and think about it a little more.

I have actually thought about this.

I mean, what at least was getting to was during hearings.

You had to have somebody from at large, you gotta have somebody um who's from a district, and if that person wasn't available in the hearing couldn't go on, that kind of stuff is just silly to me.

And I don't know, I wasn't around in the beginning when it happened, but I I would like to include Pamela Hunter.

I knew that she had did a lot of work with the CRB when it was when she was on the council.

Yeah, and when it was uh what word do I want to use?

Um reincarnated but um I ran into her and um you know she asked me how things were going, and I told her, you know, we're moving and things are going great, but we need to make some changes.

But for somebody who's been here for a long time, yeah, who are you looking for outside who knows it, yeah, she'd be a person perfect person.

So the first thing first thing we need to do is make a decision whether or not we we need an advisory board.

Let's not call it advisory.

Call it a bylawing committee.

Okay, we'll be doing that in the or like as a scroll over there.

This is classic government work.

The first thing we have our committee now, we have to establish a sharp committee.

So make just make it a bylaws committee, and and if we need to bring people in, because we may need to bring um, you know, the legal people in to say, is this something we can do?

Right.

But we're getting ready to change some of that stuff.

We want to change some of that stuff.

I mean we but it still has some legal.

So what we need to do then is to make a determination if we want to set up a committee to review the bylaws and the um legislation.

Umce we get that established, then what we need to do is that I think would be uh apropos is that everyone on the board, everyone in our committee, this the citizen review board would then make suggestion, at least three people they would like to see on this uh at uh committee, and then we'll get together and make a determination on how many people we want on the committee, uh, who's gonna be really uh advantageous to getting this thing completed and done.

So I guess the first thing we need to do is I have a question before you go forward.

Okay, can it be one of our subcommittees?

I mean, yeah, no or yes.

Okay, here's the thing that we we want to try to avoid.

No, it's over taxing the board.

Right.

So we we we want to get people who um can come in and work.

Um and like Mike said, we we had a problem with the June meeting getting the quorum.

Uh if we if we do it that way.

So you're talking about looking at all the bylaws or like narrow things like she's referring to with uh to have a hearing.

Well, I I think that we probably need because you know this is 20 year 2025.

We probably need to look at all the bylaws, and we need to look at all and look at the legislation and see if there's any changes that need to be addressed.

And of course, we you know we'd look uh would uh solicit counsel to make sure that we stay within the framework that the uh the city has set up for us.

So you already um kind of pulled some stuff together that we looked at the other day.

I guess I don't know what they do with the possible things on the bylaws.

Um so can you share them with all of us?

Probably not right now.

Oh, okay.

Because I can't remember what we talked about.

No, no, yeah, you would you have a list of things that you thought and the bylaws we should be looking at?

Remember?

I'm sorry, Peggy.

I don't remember.

Uh uh I'll have to look when I'm in the office tomorrow.

I'll have to look and then uh I'm gonna make a motion.

Okay, I'm gonna make a motion that we vote uh to establish a committee uh that's going to establish uh examine our bylaws and the legislation associated with it.

That's all.

And then we'll figure it out.

Second it's okay.

Now that okay, and we're gonna vote.

Yep.

There's been a motion on the floor to uh establish committee to look at the bylaws and the um legislation.

Uh is it been moved and second?

Uh we're gonna take a vote on it.

All in favor?

I those opposed, any abstentions?

Any questions?

Um can we add leaders since she will be doing the work?

Well, this is just for the committee.

So once we get yeah.

So then once we decide on uh the structure of the committee, then we can look at at doing that.

So we're just voting on getting the committee set up.

Okay and then we can all have an input in everyone can have input in some of the things, especially if you've seen laws or something in that written um thing.

We can all table it.

One of the homework assignments is that if everyone can start looking at the bylaws and the legislation, um if you don't have a copy of it, I can get you a copy.

I can email you a copy of it so you can start reviewing it so you can start looking at some of the things and then start thinking about the people that you would like to see on that committee.

Don't take that one.

The uh I was gonna say uh how large do you want this committee to be?

You want to establish a number on the committee?

Six before on the advisory.

Well, so here's the thing about committees.

We want an odd number.

So we always have a tiebreaker.

So three, five, seven, seven.

One is odd.

I don't think that's enough.

I don't think that's enough.

Seven is good.

Seven.

Okay.

Can you get a motion on the floor that we're gonna have the committees uh set at seven?

Uh I I'll make a motion to the committee set at seven, and uh our director be one of the seven.

Okay.

Second that yeah.

Okay, any discussion?

No, good idea.

Okay, uh, can we get a vote on that?

All in favor?

Aye.

Those opposed motion carries.

Um so the committee will be set up at seven, and we have a committee, the uh approval from the board to establish a committee.

So okay, so now that's taken care of.

Let's move on to the committee reports.

Anything from the uh outreach and public education committee?

That ain't funny.

I'm sorry.

Okay.

Anything to report, Peggy?

Uh, police relations.

Uh, nothing.

Okay.

And uh, the committee on operations.

I leave covered that pretty well.

Okay.

Nothing.

Nothing on a committee, and I have nothing to report.

Okay.

I'm waiting for your uh adult supervision.

Okay.

Okay.

Um, so now that moves us into the latter part of our meeting, which is uh public comment.

Um there's no one here on public comment.

So um I would like to make a motion that we adjourn and go into a executive session.

Second.

All right.

I second it.

Okay.

We have a motion on the floor in a second.

All in favor?

I think motion uh has been approved.

We're going to go into executive session, and then after executive session, we will come back here and then adjourn the meeting.

Yeah, you didn't want here.

So what you want me to do?

The last meeting that you when you were.

Are we going downstairs?

Are we out of the room next door?

Oh, good.