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Syracuse City Board of Assessment Review Meeting - February 10, 2026

Public MeetingsTuesday, February 10, 2026
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DateTuesday, February 10, 2026
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43:20

Today is February tenth.

43:24

And this is the uh welcome to the Syracuse City uh Board of Assessment Review.

43:33

Just wanted to remind everybody that uh these meetings are uh uh carried live over YouTube and uh all ours are also recorded so you can view them at a later date.

43:45

Uh so with that, I'll uh we'll do the roll call.

43:48

My name is Joe Saya.

43:56

Thank you very much.

43:57

Um, and I think we have our first petitioner here if you want to come on up and uh have a seat.

44:05

How are you?

44:21

Okay.

44:22

All right.

44:28

That is correct.

44:29

There is a does that on there.

44:31

There is a difference between what you said and four thirty-six Alaska Road rear.

44:38

Okay, yep.

44:38

And uh it does say rear uh my apologies.

44:41

It does say rear on the uh holder, and I'll address it as such going forward here, yes.

44:48

And I appreciate you pointing it out.

44:51

Um so let me uh uh swear yourself in and the assessor also.

44:56

Uh and it's just because uh we do it in the morning here as far as the assessors concerned.

45:02

Um and so if you could raise your right hand, both of you uh state your name for the record.

45:09

Mike Small Nikki.

45:12

Do you both uh affirm to tell the truth and give accurate information to the best of your ability?

45:17

Yes.

45:18

Okay, very good.

45:20

All set there.

45:21

Um so let me read uh the first one in any particular order or Belleview is okay to start off with.

45:30

Okay.

45:31

Very good.

45:35

Start off then with Belle View, and we'll take it from there.

45:39

So it's 2020-22 Bellevue Avenue.

45:44

Uh this is a two-story house.

45:47

Um let me just verify some information here.

45:54

Um so I have a current uh total tentative assessment of $90,000 with a land value of $15,100.

46:04

Um that would be an assessed value.

46:12

I'm sorry, a full market value of 173,000 $7.

46:25

Now on your petition, uh you didn't put anything as far as a fair market value is concerned.

46:32

What your estimate of fair market value is.

46:36

Um so we need to know your your your uh uh grieving the assessed value, I assume.

46:44

Whatever it is, whatever I have to grieve to lower my taxes, I don't know.

46:49

Okay.

46:50

I've never been here before, so I'm not totally familiar with the uh I'm not familiar with the process at all.

46:55

That's fine.

46:56

Um so in that highlighted area, if you would just write down what you believe the property is worth.

47:05

If you could sell the property today, you know, what do you think you could get for it?

47:10

And you can take a few minutes to think about it because that's what we go off of, and that's how we uh come into the assessed value.

47:21

Okay.

47:22

Um so I'll have somebody give me an assessed value on a hundred thousand dollars even you figure no.

47:41

Yeah, what's the what's the rate this year?

47:45

Okay, so 52.5, I assume.

47:48

Okay.

47:55

Uh 52.5 is the rate.

48:06

Keeping you on your toes this morning, Michael, that's all.

48:10

Uh 52.5, okay.

48:14

Uh all right, let me see what else I can take off of the uh application, then I'll turn it over to you.

48:46

Uh property was purchased for 585 back in 1997.

48:51

Uh put a new driveway in in 2024 that cost about $8,000.

49:33

Gonna have you uh cross out that 60,000 there and put uh 52,500.

49:41

And then if you could put your initials, that'd be great.

49:58

Good.

50:00

I just want to make sure the paperwork matches up as all.

50:07

Okay.

50:08

And as you're speaking, I'll turn it over to you.

50:11

You've uh got some uh information that you submitted, so I'll take a peek at that.

50:15

And uh okay, why don't you go ahead and I'll I'll probably ask some questions while you're talking.

50:25

So basically I turn it over to you, and it the burden of proof is on yourself as far as you know why it should the assessment should be lowered.

50:34

Um start with um my uh tax bill here.

50:41

It says uh residential FW sidewalk.

50:46

That's 80 bucks a year, I gather.

50:53

Um sidewalk.

50:58

I don't have a sidewalk.

51:00

Oh yeah.

51:01

Um do you mind just uh yep?

51:03

That would be great.

51:04

Thank you.

51:06

It says um that I'm being charged for a sidewalk, and I don't have a sidewalk.

51:12

I mean you don't have a sidewalk uh around the road.

51:15

I have a sidewalk that goes to my front door, but I don't have a sidewalk, I'm told a public sidewalk along the front of the property.

51:23

Nobody does on Bellevue, that section.

51:26

Okay.

51:27

I don't know that that's something that we get into.

51:31

Well, I'm being charged for it.

51:32

Right, so I'm gonna tell you where to go to address that, uh, which would be the tax department, I assume.

51:39

No, it's going to be uh the county council, everybody in the city is charged that fee, whether you have a sidewalk or not.

51:46

It's a service that is for a taxpayers, whether you have a sidewalk in front of your house and not be able to clean back at some point, you'll talk it off the other.

51:58

It's like drug, even if you don't drive down the oh, you're walking on a sidewalk sidewalk somewhere.

52:08

Yeah.

52:08

Okay, I get it.

52:09

All right.

52:10

So we're not gonna debate it.

52:12

If you if you have an issue with it, you've got to take it to your common counselor, and uh uh and then he may be able to address it.

52:21

Okay.

52:22

All right.

52:25

Um as I understand that the uh the tax is based on the structure.

52:36

Part of it, yeah.

52:37

Okay.

52:39

Well one of the things uh I don't know if I'm being charged for it, but it it mentions a multi-family unit.

52:50

Um there's no multi-family unit, we just use it as storage.

52:56

It's uh no electricity.

53:00

The okay.

53:03

There's one of those meters is there's no meter.

53:09

And why is that?

53:11

Oh, because you're using it as storage.

53:13

I mean, that's your choice.

53:14

It is a two-family.

53:16

Well, I was told if you don't have a kitchen, it's not a two-family.

53:23

All right.

53:24

Well, uh, okay.

53:26

Um that brings up other issues or what have you.

53:34

I'm assuming you have not been in this property.

53:36

I have not.

53:37

Okay.

53:37

Only from the outside.

53:38

Okay.

53:39

So let me just uh um try to uh uh ask some questions here.

53:47

So uh so it's a two-family structure, but um uh do you live in the property?

53:54

Yes.

53:54

In the first floor?

53:55

Yes.

53:56

Okay, all right.

53:56

So you're living in the first floor.

53:58

The second floor uh apparently is uh uh not occupied and uh uh not in a condition to be occupied.

54:08

There's a picture there of uh the old furnace.

54:12

There's no HVAC in the on the second floor.

54:16

Okay.

54:17

Um gravity hot air to stay.

54:22

But if you look at the there's one picture in there, it's it's just disconnected.

54:26

Yeah, I see that.

54:28

Uh yeah, yep, I do see that.

54:33

Yep.

54:34

Uh and then we have the no electric meter.

54:38

Okay.

54:38

And how long has it been in that type of condition?

54:43

Since we bought it.

54:45

Since you bought it in 97.

54:48

Okay.

54:48

Um, so it was just your choice uh not to renovate uh live in the property yourself, and and that's that okay.

54:56

All right.

54:57

Uh and you're in the first floor.

55:00

I see some issues as far as the garage is concerned, also.

55:04

Um Mike, I'm just gonna hand these over to you for a minute.

55:08

Uh just to take a peek.

55:10

Those are things you wouldn't have seen from the street.

55:14

Right.

55:14

And you wouldn't I I gather when you get information you don't walk on the properties?

55:22

Not without permission.

55:23

Okay.

55:24

So you wouldn't have been able to see any of that without you couldn't have seen it if you walked around the back, because I own the back, and we'll come to that one in a while.

55:34

That's 436 road rear.

55:38

Okay.

55:39

Uh I'm just reading here.

55:51

Okay.

55:52

All right, so he's got some deferred maintenance that's been deferred.

55:56

And uh based on uh j the size of the first floor apartment, how many bedrooms where you live?

56:08

Three three bedrooms, so it's a good size flat.

56:13

Well, these this was a house built in 1935.

56:17

These are not small.

56:20

The bedrooms are small, yeah.

56:21

But there are three bedrooms.

56:23

Okay, okay.

56:25

Um was this uh increase in assessment?

56:30

Not this year.

56:31

Not this year, okay.

56:34

Two years ago?

56:35

Three years ago and two years.

56:38

So sorry.

56:38

For 23 and for 25, not for 26.

56:42

Okay.

56:42

All right, fair enough.

56:44

Umperty that sounds like there's some issues also, but any thoughts on what you just saw?

56:58

Uh I'm not looking for a recommendation per se.

57:02

Um, but do you think that this needs a walkthrough for verification purposes with respect to the condition of the second floor?

57:10

Um not as far as condition goes, but if it's functionally a single family, um I would invite codes to come over to confirm that the power has been.

57:21

Um sorry, the utilities aren't available for the whole house, and that's um you mentioned there isn't a second kitchen.

57:28

Um so we could change its property class code, possibly if they confirm they confirm that if it basically is uh single family residence as you suggested.

57:38

That might not be a bad idea.

57:40

I mean, uh you bought it in ninety-seven, you had no intention of renovating, you haven't.

57:47

Um you're paying for a two-family class.

57:52

Um if you have no intent to uh just keep in mind that um the only reason why I wouldn't do that.

58:03

Um there's gonna be some savings, um, but I don't think it's gonna be astronomical.

58:10

Oh, I don't think I'm gonna get anything astronomical here today.

58:14

But okay, I'll put it in bucks one way or the other.

58:17

Right.

58:17

No, no, what uh what I'm getting at is if you decided to change the classification.

58:22

I have no intent.

58:23

Okay.

58:24

And the reason for that is because then you know, when you sell the property, what a mess, uh, because somebody probably would want to turn that into a working unit and two family, and now they gotta go through all the mess of trying to change it back to a two-family from a one-family.

58:42

So that's why I say I would leave it.

58:44

Somebody else's problem, not mine.

58:45

Yeah.

58:46

Well, yeah, but I'm just saying if you decided to change to a one-family, um, it's gonna make your property worth less and less marketable as far as uh uh not being a two-family anymore.

58:59

Anyway, I don't want to get too much into the weeds.

59:02

I'm just giving you a suggestion.

59:04

Um so with that uh anything you want to speak about as far as this property is concerned, comp wise, uh in light of uh the new information that you have.

59:16

Um yes, and uh excuse me.

59:20

Just uh generally because this was part of a uh a neighborhood uh evaluation and adjustment um two years ago, but I do have some comparables to support that.

59:34

Um the the properties comparable properties are selling for uh uh well over a hundred thousand dollars um so that in the past three years.

59:45

Um you support that, and then I have well when you say comparable properties now, we're assuming that yes, without the the knowledge that we've just gained, um I had no reason to compare it to single family and then just the history of its assessments uh over the past seven years and just the basic property information, which I'm not gonna share with you.

1:00:03

Um then just the history of its assessments uh over the past seven years and just the basic property information, which I'm happy to share with the folks a small picture on the second page.

1:00:22

Very small um well I was gonna show you the chimney, but that's part of the house.

1:00:28

That's it.

1:00:35

Um now I'll push you out of the spot.

1:00:38

Uh are you going to make not today, but are you going to uh rethink the scenario given the uh non-usage of the second floor flat?

1:00:55

Uh or uh is what you submitted uh what we're going to go on at this point.

1:01:05

I don't feel the need to reevaluate properties value.

1:01:10

Okay.

1:01:11

If it's probably if it's class code changes, then I would compare it to other similar property types, but that's it is and and so your position is that it's his choice that uh he hasn't renovated the property, and so be it.

1:01:27

Wouldn't use those words, but I I stand by its valuation.

1:01:31

Okay.

1:01:32

All right.

1:01:33

We stand by about the assessed value that our department has assigned to.

1:01:39

Yeah.

1:01:39

Which is the 90,000, okay.

1:01:46

Okay.

1:01:47

That's fine.

1:01:49

Um basically we take what you have to say, what the city has to say, and then we uh make some decisions.

1:01:56

Uh so we've got some comps from him, we've got some information from you.

1:02:01

Uh so that's good.

1:02:04

And uh and again, it was you know the the no decisions have been made, but it was good that you came in and and obviously now we know that uh you know there's an issue on the pleasure uh if the assessor's office could provide us comps for if it was revalued or recoded as a single family, could we get some comps for that?

1:02:28

Take a look at the well the the the that's fine, um but I gotta be careful how I say it.

1:02:40

Um it's it's it's not gonna be reclassified while we're in session this year, there's no question about that.

1:02:47

Um so we're gonna have to go off of the two family status.

1:02:51

Um but but you know, still supply the one family stuff, but it's not anything that we uh can use you know, based on the um uh fact that it's still gonna be in a two-family stand in in my uh opinion, and and I'm sure that's the thing.

1:03:13

And then just a quick question for you is there gas or water to the second level?

1:03:19

Um you can the gas is available.

1:03:26

Uh it's yeah, I guess yeah.

1:03:30

I suppose there is.

1:03:31

And water as well.

1:03:32

Well, water, there's a bathroom upstairs.

1:03:35

So yeah, water's available.

1:03:38

So the the the bathroom is uh usable.

1:03:42

Yeah.

1:03:44

In it in its technical sense, but okay.

1:03:47

In a technical sense.

1:03:49

Yes.

1:03:50

Okay.

1:03:50

That's good uh bill that was good to point that out.

1:03:55

Um this property here?

1:03:58

Yes.

1:03:59

Okay.

1:04:00

Want to move on to the I guess unless you have anything else to say on this one here.

1:04:06

Yes, we don't have to.

1:04:07

Okay.

1:04:08

All right.

1:04:09

All right, 436 Velasco Road rear.

1:04:12

Okay, let me just read this in.

1:04:14

Uh 436 Velasco Road rear.

1:04:17

Um this is a unbuildable vacant uh land slash lot totally surrounded by other properties and not accessible.

1:04:27

Um let me just get some numbers here.

1:04:35

Uh we have uh current tentative assessed value of eleven hundred dollars.

1:04:46

And the same amount uh land value-wise eleven hundred dollars.

1:04:54

Uh petitioner believes the fair market value is five hundred dollars, which would be an assessed value of two hundred and sixty dollars.

1:05:03

Okay, and uh the city says uh based on the eleven hundred uh assessed value the market value would be two thousand one hundred and fifteen dollars you just take a quick peek here.

1:05:46

You paid seven hundred and fifty dollars for it in two thousand one, and we got those numbers correct.

1:05:55

Okay, all right, and let me just take a look at uh what you submitted.

1:06:03

So you said the property is unaccessible from any street, so you get to it uh at the back of your house?

1:06:10

Correct.

1:06:11

Okay, so but you couldn't drive a tank to this location without the tank tipping over, because when you go back of my house, there is a picture, but I it's you can't really see it in the picture.

1:06:29

The drop-off is 45 degrees.

1:06:31

Okay, but it's actually 43 and a half, but okay.

1:06:35

Yeah, I can see uh what you drew.

1:06:39

I have the tax map here.

1:06:41

Yeah, we'll take that.

1:06:42

Okay, I see.

1:06:45

Okay.

1:06:47

So Mike is basically just uh decline.

1:06:53

So it sounds like you're familiar with that.

1:06:57

So is it a it was on the back of Bellevue, so you said uh, yeah, let me purchase it.

1:07:04

Well, it I bought it as a buffer between my property and uh car wash the car wash.

1:07:11

Yeah, okay.

1:07:12

You've been there.

1:07:13

No, I see the picture.

1:07:14

Oh I see the good picture you took from your property.

1:07:21

Um better than I thought, I guess.

1:07:23

Yeah, no, that's fine.

1:07:24

And also, I just use it as uh it's a wildlife refuge.

1:07:29

Um there are no city services available.

1:07:32

Um that one I get charged for um sweeping.

1:07:41

There are no streets, there's no sidewalk.

1:07:47

Um there's no water, there's nothing.

1:07:51

Yeah.

1:07:52

I cleaned it up, and it's just used as the bunch of deer that live back there, aren't okay.

1:08:03

Um just a couple.

1:08:08

Um it wasn't raised for 2026.

1:08:12

This happens uh a year ago.

1:08:15

It was increased by one dollar.

1:08:17

That's the only change that's been sorry, $100.

1:08:21

Went from $1,000 to $1,100 for the $25.

1:08:24

Well, what I'm looking at is when I bought the property between city and county taxes, I was paying $30.

1:08:34

Now the city wants $111, and it just provide anything.

1:08:41

And as far as walking somebody else's sidewalk, there's nobody that's living back there, so there's no I'm not walking on some city sidewalk or something.

1:08:52

So shouldn't be charged for that, and there's no street sweeping or anything like that because there's no street.

1:08:59

That uh so my regardless of what happens here as far as the assessed value is concerned, but that's all we are uh called upon to look at.

1:09:12

Um you might want to have a little chat with your common counselor.

1:09:16

Who is that in that area?

1:09:19

Okay.

1:09:21

And uh certainly about this one, and maybe about the one you live in, too.

1:09:28

Well, Michelle was referring to is that um uh you know, if you uh you know walk down a city block, you're walking on sidewalk.

1:09:40

So that's that's all not necessarily at your house.

1:09:43

So I buy into that a little bit.

1:09:45

Um but sounds like Michelle's gonna look up who your common counselor is.

1:09:52

You ought to reach out to the person.

1:09:53

I don't totally buy into that for one reason.

1:10:00

Um when it snows, um you're supposed to clean your sidewalk within 24 hours.

1:10:05

Okay.

1:10:06

That's not my responsibility if it's somebody in front of somebody else's house.

1:10:11

Right.

1:10:11

So it's somebody else's they're they're the ones that have the sidewalk, not me.

1:10:18

Yeah.

1:10:19

Again, the premise is, and you know, we're not gonna waste time debating it, but the premise is that if you walk down the street uh to the corner store, you're using somebody's sidewalk to clear the cleared their sidewalk.

1:10:32

So they spread the cost over uh everybody in the city.

1:10:36

So I I don't have too much of a problem with that, but that's just my opinion.

1:10:41

Um but anyway, we'll let that go.

1:10:49

Why not adjoin it?

1:10:49

Why don't you just resubdivide?

1:10:51

Well, uh the I don't know if that's where he was going, but um uh again uh uh yeah that's uh he could that that is an option cost's gonna cost a little money, but you know you could uh uh join the two properties.

1:11:10

Uh I looked into that.

1:11:12

That would cost me more than paying the taxes.

1:11:17

The 20 years maybe.

1:11:18

Uh so anyway, um that could be, but that that's a that was a good suggestion.

1:11:25

All right, so did you speak?

1:11:30

No.

1:11:31

No, I mean uh you were gone in, then did I cut you off?

1:11:34

Oh, I was gonna suggest that it could be a candidate for resubdivision and assembling two parcels, then you're only getting one bill.

1:11:42

Uh so there wouldn't be duplication.

1:11:45

So I get one as you suggested.

1:11:47

I get one bill for two hundred dollars or two bills for one hundred dollars each, it amounts to the same thing, so I'm not I'm no better off.

1:11:55

Well, uh again, not necessarily because that extra eighty dollar charge on the lot would be no more.

1:12:02

There'd be one charge instead of two.

1:12:05

Well, from what I've heard discussing this with uh what it would cost to do that, right?

1:12:12

That's the thing.

1:12:13

It would take me roughly 20 years to break even, which I may live 20 years, but I'm not I'm not taking that bet by that to break even.

1:12:26

Yeah, that was uh part of my comment earlier that yeah, it uh take you quite some time to pay off.

1:12:33

All right.

1:12:34

Um anything else you want to add.

1:12:38

No, not really.

1:12:39

I guess my argument is with common counsel because my taxes keep going up, but I don't see well.

1:12:46

We're gonna take a look.

1:12:48

We're gonna take a look at the assessed values on both properties.

1:12:52

Okay.

1:12:52

Um, and that's the purpose here.

1:12:54

Uh and uh so you know uh it wasn't uh uh a waste of your time, but yes, there could be uh some more efficient uh way of doing things uh and that would be the common council end and then uh an attorney end if you wanted to combine the properties.

1:13:13

Um but that's that's up to you.

1:13:16

No, sir.

1:13:17

When you went downstairs to submit the application for this, did you speak with the folks and ask about any other exemptions you might be eligible for?

1:13:27

But uh as far as I know, uh the only exemptions I get the enhanced star uh and a star exemption as far as I know that's all you try to apply for the senior before it's it's a stricter income restriction, so depending on what your income you may not qualify for it, but there is another senior uh exemption.

1:13:58

And you because you're here, you may want to go down to their office before you leave.

1:14:04

Just ask a question or two, and maybe you would think you qualify and you could fill out an application real quick.

1:14:12

Because absolutely you should definitely be taking advantage of any uh exemptions that might be available.

1:14:18

And now would be a good time to do that.

1:14:21

Military service, things like that.

1:14:23

Pardon me?

1:14:23

Military service.

1:14:24

There are opportunities too.

1:14:26

I wasn't in the middle of but the enhanced stars that were talking about.

1:14:31

You have he has the enhanced star on the Bellevue property.

1:14:35

Okay.

1:14:35

But if there are any others you qualify for, that could be the savings that you're seeking.

1:14:39

I would set the do you know where the assessment office is?

1:14:42

I do.

1:14:42

Yeah, just stop down there.

1:14:44

Okay.

1:14:52

You know, you just wanted to see if there are uh they'll pull your your property and see what you have, and maybe there's something that you don't have that you could have.

1:15:02

Okay.

1:15:04

All right, short of that.

1:15:05

Thank you for coming in, and the city will send you a couple of notices first week of April.

1:15:10

I'm sure they will.

1:15:12

Thank you.

1:15:13

All right, thank you for coming in.

1:15:24

Okay.

1:15:30

Right.

1:15:35

Okay.

1:15:52

This is West O Strandard, by the way.

1:15:55

The other one didn't uh isn't here as of yet.

1:15:58

Uh Skyline.

1:15:59

This is uh 134-136 uh O strander.

1:16:03

Okay.

1:16:03

Yes.

1:16:05

And fine, sir.

1:16:06

Thank you.

1:16:07

Good, good, thank you.

1:16:09

You're just here for one property, 134-36 West O Strandor Avenue.

1:16:14

Yeah.

1:16:15

Okay.

1:16:15

Okay, hold that thought for one minute.

1:16:18

Uh okay.

1:16:29

Uh let me just swear you in if you could raise your right hand.

1:16:32

State your name for the record.

1:16:36

You affirm to tell the truth and give accurate information to the best of your ability.

1:16:40

Yeah.

1:16:41

Okay, very good.

1:16:42

Thank you.

1:16:43

Uh okay.

1:16:43

Let me just read this property in real uh quick here, and then we'll go from there.

1:16:48

Um so we have uh well, 134136 West O Strander Avenue.

1:16:55

Uh looks like this is a one one family, one family house.

1:16:59

No, two family.

1:17:00

Two family house.

1:17:08

You live in this property?

1:17:10

No.

1:17:11

Okay.

1:17:14

Two family house.

1:17:19

Current tenant of assessed value forty-seven thousand dollars with a land value of eighty one hundred dollars.

1:17:25

Petitioner believes the fair market value is uh actually before I do that.

1:17:36

Uh that would be a full value of ninety thousand ninety thousand three eighty-five.

1:17:55

Uh petitioner believes the fair market value is twenty thousand dollars, which would be an equitable assessed value of ten thousand four hundred dollars.

1:18:09

Okay.

1:18:11

And then just uh you purchased it for 18,000 in uh 2015.

1:18:23

Yeah.

1:18:26

Did you purchase it from a church?

1:18:28

Church family.

1:18:30

Church family.

1:18:31

Yeah, pass the pass away and he'd sell the house for me.

1:18:35

Okay.

1:18:36

And uh okay, nothing else in here as far as information is concerned.

1:18:41

Um so you've got some stuff that you want to submit.

1:18:45

And uh why don't I turn it over to you and you can tell me what the situation is on this uh two family.

1:18:52

Okay.

1:18:53

How I before we used to rent for some people living there, but start when I bought the house.

1:19:01

My son, my son living here all the time.

1:19:05

And because my son before he feels better, but now he feels sick.

1:19:10

He cannot live with nobody, and so now he lives alone there.

1:19:16

I cannot rent.

1:19:17

I cannot let people live in there no more because he's sick, he cannot leave it me too.

1:19:24

Before he got a job, but now I'm no more job because he he too much stress, he fighting all the time.

1:19:33

All right, so let me ask you uh so it's a two-family.

1:19:36

Let's talk about the house for a minute and then we'll get into the house's issue.

1:19:40

Before the how you look better when the first man I buy it everything good.

1:19:45

But after the my son leaving there, the tenant downstairs they keep fighting, they break the window, they break.

1:19:53

The tenants was fighting with your son.

1:19:55

Yeah, and they then they they both break the window, all the windows downstairs still break too.

1:20:02

I I I don't have money to to fake it.

1:20:05

What are they fighting about?

1:20:07

They always fighting each other because they they both stressed and the fighting.

1:20:13

Yeah, they both mental in there something.

1:20:16

Okay.

1:20:16

Yeah.

1:20:17

Um so uh if I could stay on the the the what are the size of the apartments.

1:20:25

Does your son live in the first floor?

1:20:27

No, he lives the second floor.

1:20:28

Your son lives on the second floor.

1:20:29

What are the size of the apartments?

1:20:31

The the downstairs a three bedroom.

1:20:33

Okay.

1:20:34

Big big part.

1:20:35

Yeah, big big big floor.

1:20:37

Okay.

1:20:38

Second floor too.

1:20:39

Living room, kitchen, every big big.

1:20:43

They're symmetrical, they're the same three bedroom apartments.

1:20:46

Okay.

1:20:47

Um so uh when you were renting it, what was the rent?

1:20:53

Uh the pride?

1:20:54

Yes.

1:20:55

Sick hundred downstairs.

1:20:57

What was it?

1:20:57

Sick hundred.

1:20:58

Six hundred?

1:20:59

Yeah.

1:21:00

Six hundred downstairs plus all separate utilities.

1:21:03

Yeah.

1:21:04

Uh the uh they pay electricity pay care by themselves.

1:21:09

Well what's that?

1:21:10

They they pay electric, they pay care by the tenant pay.

1:21:14

And it pays the gas and electric.

1:21:16

Okay, you probably pay the water.

1:21:18

I pay the water and tax.

1:21:20

Yeah.

1:21:21

Okay.

1:21:22

Um and um so now uh because of your son's situation, uh you don't rent out the first floor.

1:21:30

No more.

1:21:31

Right.

1:21:31

He lives on the second floor.

1:21:33

Yes.

1:21:33

Okay.

1:21:34

And uh that's bad.

1:21:37

Uh is there a garage?

1:21:40

They have garage, but he don't have car to before he had a car, but after that they tow his car away.

1:21:47

Oh, that's okay.

1:21:47

That's that's uh thank you.

1:21:49

The is it a two-car garage?

1:21:51

One car.

1:21:52

One car garage.

1:21:53

Yeah.

1:21:53

You have a picture of the house by chance?

1:21:55

I don't bring I don't bring a picture.

1:21:57

You didn't bring a picture?

1:21:59

No.

1:22:00

I'm sorry.

1:22:00

Did the first time I come here?

1:22:02

I don't know.

1:22:02

That's no, I'm just I'm just uh I don't know.

1:22:06

Uh we probably have a picture over there.

1:22:09

Um is there something that you want to say on that from regarding that paper?

1:22:16

One that I I only come here.

1:22:19

I want to tell you the truth.

1:22:21

I want you to have me at my house only my son living here, living there.

1:22:26

And he don't have income, nothing.

1:22:28

He goes to jail too, he's sick because he's fighting a lot.

1:22:34

He is he uh receiving treatment?

1:22:36

Yeah.

1:22:37

Okay.

1:22:38

Uh he take mental illness medicine.

1:22:41

Okay.

1:22:41

And he always five, five, five.

1:22:43

Now he uh it's get out from the jail.

1:22:46

I can't bring him back home.

1:22:49

And I only want to you to have uh me to the same tech audit low more tech for me because I don't get nothing from him because he he applied for disability, but he's still not not giving him.

1:23:06

Yeah.

1:23:06

Um was this an increase in assessment, Mike?

1:23:10

Yes.

1:23:11

Increase from 41,000 to 47,000.

1:23:17

Six thousand dollars increase.

1:23:20

Okay.

1:23:21

Okay.

1:23:22

Uh okay.

1:23:25

Uh okay.

1:23:29

Um why don't you hold that thought for a second?

1:23:32

Uh any uh information uh camps.

1:23:38

Yes.

1:23:39

Um just that it was uh a neighborhood assessment.

1:23:41

We looked at all the properties in in the area around um 134 36 Australian Avenue West.

1:23:49

Um and I do have some cop rolls, it is in line with the market value of sales in the past uh few years, it's pretty close.

1:23:59

There are uh a couple that I found that are a little bit under.

1:24:03

Um sold for 85,000, but the rest are over.

1:24:07

So I believe it's in line with the market.

1:24:10

Okay.

1:24:12

All right, we'll take those.

1:24:16

That's a can I can I see that Bill.

1:24:21

I just finished do the roof.

1:24:24

Okay.

1:24:24

I do the room new room.

1:24:26

And electric electric and new too.

1:24:30

Okay.

1:24:33

I pay in the front of the party.

1:24:37

But the how looks looks strong.

1:24:41

Uh okay.

1:24:43

Well, it's an it's it's uh uh it's an unfortunate situation with your son.

1:24:54

And we feel bad for that, of course.

1:25:00

Um unfortunately I don't think that that's criteria that we can uh get into as far as making our decision is concerned with respect to assessed value.

1:25:09

Uh I'm speaking for myself and we'll uh chat about that uh in executive session, but uh um uh so uh I'm not uh uh sure at this point uh uh what can be done with respect to that.

1:25:26

Yeah, I retirement too.

1:25:28

I 62.

1:25:30

You what?

1:25:31

I I take retirement mighty now at the time retirement.

1:25:36

You retired?

1:25:37

Yeah, 62.

1:25:39

At 62.

1:25:40

Yeah.

1:25:40

That's right.

1:25:41

Not too much.

1:25:42

We recently retired?

1:25:44

Yeah.

1:25:45

Congratulations.

1:25:46

62 at the time.

1:25:48

62, that's it.

1:25:51

Are you collecting your social security?

1:25:55

Uh okay.

1:25:56

I did have a question.

1:25:57

Yes, absolutely.

1:25:58

Is the first floor is the gas electric and water still on?

1:26:02

Uh no.

1:26:03

Because I I don't have money to pay.

1:26:05

But the water is still on.

1:26:07

The water's still on, but the gas and electric.

1:26:13

The the company, because we don't we I turn off because I don't I don't have money to pay.

1:26:21

Okay.

1:26:22

But the water is still up, yeah.

1:26:24

Thank you.

1:26:25

You welcome be careful.

1:26:28

You don't want to freeze pipes.

1:26:32

I can pray to God because this these two three weeks are very cold.

1:26:36

Yeah, but I call my son, say okay, everything running good.

1:26:41

He he upstairs good.

1:26:43

Yeah.

1:26:45

Yeah.

1:26:47

Anyway, okay.

1:26:48

Thank you.

1:26:48

Uh yes, yes.

1:26:50

Um anybody else have any other questions?

1:26:54

Mike, good.

1:26:56

You gave me camps, okay.

1:26:58

Um okay, is there anything else you want to say?

1:27:01

I only want to say you can have me to load the the tech.

1:27:06

I'm so good so happy because uh I tell you all the my my situation already.

1:27:13

I'm retired, my son will pay nothing.

1:27:16

I I only want him to live in the how because I I don't want him to live in the street.

1:27:21

Sure.

1:27:21

No, I understand that.

1:27:22

Yeah.

1:27:23

Uh the the you've got to do what's best for your son.

1:27:26

Yeah.

1:27:27

Uh and you and and you know, that's that's uh um there's no issue with that.

1:27:33

Again, uh we have criteria that we have to follow also.

1:27:38

Um and um so um thank you.

1:27:41

Yes, I guess we'll uh um we'll leave it at that, and uh uh the city will send you a notice the first week of April.

1:27:51

Thank you, sir.

1:27:51

Okay.

1:27:52

All right.

1:27:52

Well thank you for coming in and good luck on your retirement.

1:27:55

Thank you.

1:27:56

That the first time I come here for give me two because my English is not too good.

1:28:00

Oh, your English is fine, and that's excellent.

1:28:03

What did you do?

1:28:04

What what uh what now my job is uh to sell God uh the uh pastor for Cambodia community here.

1:28:15

We will we worship God in Alliance Church.

1:28:18

Okay.

1:28:18

We then one room, Alliance Church say us one room.

1:28:22

We will support it.

1:28:23

Is that what you do now?

1:28:24

Yeah.

1:28:24

What what did you do when when you what did you retire from?

1:28:28

I retired from uh NYU New York University in in Manhattan.

1:28:34

I work there 27th year.

1:28:37

What did you do there?

1:28:38

Uh clean up.

1:28:39

Okay.

1:28:40

Twenty-seventh year there.

1:28:42

So now I come to come to the uh Brown New York City.

1:28:47

I start to work after I come for six days to work.

1:28:56

You know, and by you?

1:28:58

Yeah.

1:28:58

And and uh do you live in New York?

1:29:02

No, now since God called me to be a pastor, I decide to quit my job.

1:29:07

Okay.

1:29:08

And already I called it quick my job.

1:29:11

I don't have money, but God keep provide me.

1:29:14

But when I'm my age 62, I collect my social security.

1:29:19

Yes.

1:29:19

And God provide me good enough.

1:29:22

Good for you.

1:29:24

Good for you.

1:29:25

Let's see, he's gotta say that now and make me feel bad, right?

1:29:31

All right, forget everything I just said before.

1:29:34

That's okay.

1:29:36

Because God is very good, God.

1:29:39

Yes, Jesus.

1:29:40

He is.

1:29:41

He is he's he savor, he he take care.

1:29:46

Yes.

1:29:47

Well, good luck to you.

1:29:49

Thank you, guys.

1:29:49

And your son here.

1:29:50

Thank you.

1:29:51

God bless everybody.

1:29:52

And your son.

1:29:53

Thank you.

1:29:53

Thank you so much.

1:29:54

All right, have a good day.

1:29:55

City will send you notice first week of April.

1:29:57

Yeah, thank you.

1:29:58

Okay, thank you.

1:29:59

Thank you so much.

1:30:18

Really?

1:30:18

Nothing on the application.

1:30:21

Okay, thank you.

1:30:24

Thank you.

1:30:26

Okay.

1:30:27

So let's just take care of this here.

1:30:34

This petitioner did not show up for whatever reason.

1:30:42

So let me read it in.

1:30:49

This is uh it says it's an attached parcel.

1:30:55

Um so it must be attached to fifty one oh five skyline uh drive.

1:31:02

So this must be in the rear.

1:31:04

Um looks like the current tentative assessed value is three hundred dollars.

1:31:20

And that is in fact what the land value is.

1:31:26

Uh petitioner believes the fair market value is one hundred and seventy-four dollars.

1:31:40

Can somebody give me a assessed value on that?

1:32:10

My apologies.

1:32:15

Uh and the uh full market value on the city's assessed value is five hundred and seventy-seven dollars.

1:32:27

Okay.

1:33:12

Uh Michael, anything that you have for this.

1:33:19

Uh part of uh the city looked at residential lots um in the area.

1:33:24

Um did increase by two hundred dollars from one hundred to three hundred for this role year tentatively.

1:33:31

Uh no other adjustments in recent years.

1:33:35

Um puts its fair market value at thirty-one cents per square foot.

1:33:41

Uh unfortunately for rear lots, there aren't a lot of comparables.

1:33:46

They don't sell often.

1:33:48

Um I did provide uh comparables of similar lot sizes and uh square footages.

1:33:56

Um to the meth for those uh per square foot.

1:34:00

Um the city believes that this is an appropriate value for the rear lot uh despite its limited access.

1:34:11

I know of one rear lot on Velasco that you could use there.

1:34:17

If it goes on the market, I'll I'll keep that in mind.

1:34:21

Uh okay.

1:34:27

Okay.

1:34:28

Uh so that'll take care of that, and uh that's it uh for today, Michelle.

1:34:33

Um anybody else have anything to say?

1:34:39

Good, good, good.

1:34:40

Okay.

1:34:41

That'll take care of the uh hearings for today.

1:34:44

Uh and uh we'll be back here uh tomorrow morning, and uh thank you very much.

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Summary of Proceedings

Syracuse City Board of Assessment Review Meeting - February 10, 2026

The Syracuse City Board of Assessment Review convened on February 10, 2026, at 1:25 PM (13:25:49 UTC) to hear petitions from property owners challenging their tentative assessments. The meeting, chaired by Joe Saya, included three hearings, one of which was adjourned due to the petitioner's absence. No formal decisions were announced; notices will be mailed in early April. The board also reminded petitioners about potential exemptions and directed concerns about city service fees to the Common Council.

Discussion Items (Individual Hearings)

2020-22 Bellevue Avenue – Two-Family Residence

  • Petitioner (owner-occupant of the first floor) argued that the second-floor apartment is not habitable (no kitchen, no electric meter, disconnected furnace) and that the property should be assessed as a single-family home. He also disputed a sidewalk fee, stating he has no public sidewalk.
  • Assessor (Mike Small) defended the current tentative assessment of $90,000 (full market value $173,077), noting the property was purchased for $58,500 in 1997 and has had a new $8,000 driveway. He provided comparable sales showing similar properties selling for well over $100,000. He stated the non-use of the second floor is the owner's choice and does not warrant revaluation.
  • Board discussion: The board considered reclassifying the property to single-family but the petitioner declined, fearing it would reduce marketability. No change in classification was made during the hearing. The board requested additional comparables from the assessor but noted the current assessment stands.

134-136 West Ostrander Avenue – Two-Family Residence

  • Petitioner (retired pastor, age 62) explained that his son, who suffers from mental illness, lives on the second floor and cannot live with others. The first-floor apartment is vacant due to past tenant conflicts and damage; utilities (gas, electric) are turned off. He requested a lower assessment because he receives no rental income.
  • Assessor stated the tentative assessment increased from $41,000 to $47,000 as part of a neighborhood adjustment. Comparables supported a market value in line with the assessment.
  • Board response: The board acknowledged the difficult personal situation but noted that personal circumstances, including income or health, are not criteria for adjusting assessed value. The petitioner mentioned recent roof and electrical work. No decision was reached.

51-05 Skyline Drive (Attached Parcel) – No Show

  • Petitioner did not appear. The board read in the property: tentative assessed value of $300 (land only), full market value $577. The petitioner had claimed a fair market value of $174. The assessor provided comparables supporting the current assessment as appropriate. The hearing was closed in the petitioner's absence.

Key Outcomes

  • No decisions were rendered during the open session. The board will deliberate in executive session and mail notices to petitioners during the first week of April 2026.
  • Suggestions: The board advised the first petitioner to contact his Common Councilor regarding sidewalk and street-sweeping fees, and to check with the assessor’s office about additional exemptions (senior, military, enhanced STAR). The second petitioner was similarly encouraged to explore exemptions.
  • Future proceedings: The board announced it will reconvene the following morning (February 11, 2026) for additional hearings.

Meeting Transcript

Today is February tenth. And this is the uh welcome to the Syracuse City uh Board of Assessment Review. Just wanted to remind everybody that uh these meetings are uh uh carried live over YouTube and uh all ours are also recorded so you can view them at a later date. Uh so with that, I'll uh we'll do the roll call. My name is Joe Saya. Thank you very much. Um, and I think we have our first petitioner here if you want to come on up and uh have a seat. How are you? Okay. All right. That is correct. There is a does that on there. There is a difference between what you said and four thirty-six Alaska Road rear. Okay, yep. And uh it does say rear uh my apologies. It does say rear on the uh holder, and I'll address it as such going forward here, yes. And I appreciate you pointing it out. Um so let me uh uh swear yourself in and the assessor also. Uh and it's just because uh we do it in the morning here as far as the assessors concerned. Um and so if you could raise your right hand, both of you uh state your name for the record. Mike Small Nikki. Do you both uh affirm to tell the truth and give accurate information to the best of your ability? Yes. Okay, very good. All set there. Um so let me read uh the first one in any particular order or Belleview is okay to start off with. Okay. Very good. Start off then with Belle View, and we'll take it from there. So it's 2020-22 Bellevue Avenue. Uh this is a two-story house. Um let me just verify some information here. Um so I have a current uh total tentative assessment of $90,000 with a land value of $15,100. Um that would be an assessed value. I'm sorry, a full market value of 173,000 $7. Now on your petition, uh you didn't put anything as far as a fair market value is concerned. What your estimate of fair market value is. Um so we need to know your your your uh uh grieving the assessed value, I assume. Whatever it is, whatever I have to grieve to lower my taxes, I don't know. Okay. I've never been here before, so I'm not totally familiar with the uh I'm not familiar with the process at all. That's fine. Um so in that highlighted area, if you would just write down what you believe the property is worth. If you could sell the property today, you know, what do you think you could get for it? And you can take a few minutes to think about it because that's what we go off of, and that's how we uh come into the assessed value. Okay. Um so I'll have somebody give me an assessed value on a hundred thousand dollars even you figure no. Yeah, what's the what's the rate this year? Okay, so 52.5, I assume. Okay.

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