5:10I thought you were leaving, Jimmy.
5:14We I would like to call the order, the um budget hearing for the mayor's office to reduce gun violence, which falls under public safety.
5:24I have with me today counselors Helen Hudson, uh Councilor Joan Rousser Jones, Counselor Nave, Counselor Caldwell, Counselor Monto, um, and President Pontiagua.
5:44Along with um Yeah, Matif Johnson Kenzie.
5:49Yeah, who runs the uh mayor's office to reduce gun violence.
5:53Um yeah, so go ahead.
5:56You can you can have the floor first.
5:58So I did um give you guys a map of kind of the positions along with the numbers.
6:05Um so as we start off, um when we talk about the credible messengers, the first line uh that is for three part-time individuals, and if you look on the um uh the breakdown uh the outreach staff, uh we would be looking to receive uh money from the city for those uh positions, those three part-time uh staff.
6:29Those positions previously were funded um through DCJS, um, and we're looking to continue to do that work.
6:37Uh that outreach work is working with um many individuals throughout the community today.
6:44Uh we will be doing an outreach um down on Sterling and Palmer.
6:48So those the type of things that those outreach workers would be doing.
6:52Um any questions so far?
6:56So as we go down to um line um where it says less uh the reimbursement from other funds.
7:06Um and when we go down to contractual other expenses, those are all those um the grants that we had.
7:13So we did have some grants um that funded um a lot of the positions.
7:19Um over the last I would say I've been in this position for four years, so most of the funding for the directors for the mayor's office of juice gun violence uh was through grants um besides myself um as director.
7:34So I was the only one that was paid through the city.
7:37So what we're looking to do is continue to pay our um project manager or project coordinator and also our data analysts uh who provide services to to our office.
7:49Um I think office supplies um are are at at a minimum in operating supplies, the same uniform supplies um as I have on today.
8:01We we do wear mostly uniforms when we go out.
8:06They're uh quite a bit.
8:10The operating supplies 2300 is to 25,000.
8:25Maybe it's not a mistake.
8:30That's not operation.
8:31Yeah, that's probably a m typo.
8:38Oh yeah, so that's just supply more than office supply.
8:42So when we do outreach, when we do our uh programming, like today we go out, uh, we're gonna feed some some kids after school.
8:51Um different programming we do that.
8:53That's what that supply line is.
8:56I'm looking at office supplies, but those are overall for things that we do throughout the community, different outreach that we do.
9:03Most of that was funded through the grants also.
9:06And then I'm looking at professional services, that took a big drop.
9:13Professor, so the trauma response last year.
9:16Um they received in 2024 25 250,000.
9:21Um that was cut down to 50,000 as of um 2025.
9:29I'm not on the same line as you, Helen.
9:31Of the 50,000 that was adopted in 26, you only spent 12 of that 50?
9:37Yeah, and that was the program nobody invoi invoiced.
9:40You know, we we wouldn't spend it.
9:42We would professional services are um like trauma response team or um any other organization that we partner with if we did if we responded, and what happened was we did most of the respondent in office.
10:00We didn't have other organizations or anyone responding, but we did last summer, we did most of the responding to uh different uh traumatic incidents.
10:06So homicides in office did most of that.
10:10So do you expect to spend 38,000 more than that 12 this year?
10:14Yeah, we we we put we're gonna partner with um the trauma response team and get them back going this year.
10:21Um I did talk to uh uh Noble Jennings uh last week about coming back on him and invoicing and getting doing he has some activities and things he wants to do.
10:31Um and that yes, that's like again that starts today um when we go down to Price Right over on South South Ave.
10:38We'll be down there for like a couple hours.
10:40And what I told him was, you know, if you're working with a group of individuals, you need to invoice.
10:45So a lot of times organizations do work like the trauma response team, and they they forget that you have to invoice for that.
10:52You actually did take kids after shooting and you took them and had dinner with them or whatever it may be, you have to make sure you invoice for that.
10:59So a lot of times our organizations in the community, they do the work and forget that they can actually invoice for professional services.
11:06Would that be the related parties or the professional services?
11:10That so professional services can be uh the trauma response team.
11:14We also have uh therapist that can so we have a mobile unit that we use.
11:19Um therapists are will be provided on that mobile unit.
11:23So when we go out today, we won't have the mobile unit because it was short notice.
11:26So this is uh in response to the the shooting that happened on Palmer last week.
11:31So we'll have that mobile unit out hopefully the next couple weeks.
11:35Uh we we've partnered with McMahon Ryan.
11:37Um and on that mobile unit, we would have therapists on the mobile unit.
11:42Um and we would have to pay them those professionals.
11:44The agencies that we're invoicing would be the contracted services related party.
11:52Um question, what is the travel that you expect to do this year?
11:56Because it went from zero nine ninety-one to six thousand fifty.
12:01So that's for training and development.
12:03Um so I go to different along with my staff, we go to different CVI trainings to stay up to date with what's going on nationally um and to continue to be trained by you know, most most experts.
12:16We have them actually come into Syracuse next week.
12:19But I also travel to Chicago or Baltimore on different locations and different conferences.
12:24We have a couple, and I can give you a um a list of the conferences that we attend uh yearly uh for training.
12:32Um one other question that's sort of not totally budget related.
12:37Um are you tracking this year exactly how many kids you're touching?
12:41So that we we have an idea of the impact that this program is having in the community?
12:46Yeah, so that's the important part of having a data analyst on staff.
12:49So anything we do, we track.
12:51So anytime, even if it's an organization that's contracting with us or ourselves, we we we document everything.
12:58Um a form is filled out.
12:59So uh this week alone we had a couple of things going on, and we even we even track our meetings.
13:04So when people come to our meetings, we know who attended meetings, uh, which is important when we talk about contracts and working with organizations to make sure they're attending the meetings.
13:13But to answer your question, yes.
13:15Anytime we're out doing anything with you today, we will track that.
13:20Um if it's 30 youth out today, we will we will make sure we kind make sure we are recording every child that we're that we are uh involved with today.
13:32So how much of your total budget is grant supported?
13:37Um I'm gonna ask some anissa to wouldn't that be the 279.
13:43How much is grant grant supported out of the budget?
14:02I assume we're looking at grant opportunities for the program.
14:06Yeah, we'll continue to do that.
14:07Um we've been working on a putting together a proposal along with uh Stephanie, we've been working on for the last about two months, just really trying to focus on put getting us out there with the program where we done um, you know, we talked about the DOJ contract.
14:22Uh, we came to you with um a couple, maybe a couple weeks ago.
14:25So we kind of put that together that what we've been doing and want to kind of really put that out there to try to get more funding.
14:31Now, how is this program different from the new program that's coming from New York City?
14:36Is that what it's called?
14:38So exaltism is really focused on education and activities.
14:43Our office is kind of like what I say, we manage overall the CBI work, the ecosystem that's being done in the community.
14:50So if you go to the first page, I've kind of put together a diagram so you can see what all our office covers.
14:58Um so we don't just do one particular thing, but we do several things.
15:00So we don't just do one particular thing, but we do several things.
15:01Um starting with uh partnering with law enforcement um with the school district um with the community.
15:08We have meetings monthly, um several meetings throughout the month.
15:12Um so if you look through this, you see we do a lot of things, um, a lot of outreach.
15:18Um, and everything is if you look, we are collecting data.
15:22We are receiving data from either SPD or our own uh Patrice uh Williams, our data analyst.
15:29So um we have a a lot that we do um besides just you know having a credible messenger, which I think has been the focus focal point, but we do more than that.
15:39Um we kind of coordinate this ecosystem.
15:41So um are you going to elementary schools?
15:46Can I suggest maybe we think about that?
15:48Um so I think that when we talk about this this work, and we are having a training this week.
15:53I think it's important to understand that sometimes organizations have to learn to stay in their lane.
15:59So the mayor's office reduced gun violence can't do everything.
16:02We got to do make sure we do something and do it right.
16:05Now, what I will say, out of coordinating it, we have different organizations that we work with that do go into elementary schools.
16:12So I feel that we have a footprint in going into the schools.
16:15It might not be us, but it is organizations that we are working with.
16:19That's the important part of the ecosystem.
16:21So when we have these meetings on Thursdays, it's not just us in the room.
16:27Um we give over uh already over 50 free YMCA um memberships to children and family throughout the community.
16:34These are the things that the mayor's office has done in the last two years.
16:38So it's a lot of things we do besides just a credible messenger piece.
16:42And again, when you talk about the ecosystem, that's the important part.
16:46So I would say we are currently in elementary schools.
16:49It might not be me specifically, but we are partnering with different organizations that are and have that footprint.
16:56Now, when we meet once a month, we talk about what they're doing.
16:59We have the school district at the table with us to talk about what's going on in the school.
17:04We partner with um the retired chief of police uh Frank Fowler, who also works uh with the school district.
17:11So we meet, we just had a meeting last Thursday where we are able to talk about kids and what's going on in the schools.
17:17So when we talk about an ecosystem, instead of our office trying to spread ourselves in, we partner with different organizations to get the work done.
17:26And that doesn't necessarily mean we have to be contracted with every organization.
17:30The ecosystem is either you're paid or not, you're a part of this partnership.
17:35I I'm thinking about the credible messengers, okay?
17:38Um, we're having a big issue in my district right now over by Roberts School with the young children smoking pot before they go to class.
17:45And I'm talking 10, 11-year-olds.
17:47And the neighbors are very upset about it.
17:48Obviously, those parents that have their children in that school are very upset about it.
17:52There's a lot of bullying going on in the school.
17:54It's not the same school it was years ago.
17:58I think that if you have people that are doing outreach, they maybe should be hanging.
18:01Now I'm not saying just that school, but maybe they should be out in front of the schools during the day in the mornings before these kids are going into school because there's a big issue going on.
18:12And I have no problem with that, but I think what we need to look at when we talk about neighborhood safety, when you talk about the budget I have is the capacity I have to do with what I have.
18:20I've three outreach workers at what we have, that's not gonna cover that kind of you're talking about something I would love to do because we're really talking about an overall neighborhood safety.
18:29That costs that's a capacity building thing, because number one, I have to train those individuals.
18:36I would have to send them to a city that already does that so they could be trained.
18:40Because what I don't want to do is send somebody that's not trained outside Robert School and get into a fight with a parent because they're not trained on de-escalation.
18:48Can you just maybe just for my own so and Stephanie?
18:51I might need you for this.
18:52So the money that we just moved a couple meetings ago.
18:56That's the DCJS money.
18:59Is this neighborhood ambassador program in this organizational chart?
19:04So that ambassador program is under a program coordinator, but are those outside agencies that are supervising the ambassadors or are those city employees?
19:13So just to clarify, the funds that you all discussed on the agenda were federal department of justice, not DCJS.
19:20Um, and the ambassador program is a separate part of state funds that Latif and the team have secured and we have, and that um we are going to part hire part-time ambassadors.
19:30So we don't have those ambassadors, yeah.
19:34Yeah, but it's coming them.
19:35They only have a three that's going to last a couple of months, and then you need money from the budget to continue.
19:42I we would definitely need to seek additional funds to keep it going.
19:46But I think I think we have a year, if if I'm not mistaken, a year's worth of funding because these are part-time positions.
19:52They would get it would be they would be on staff for at least a year.
19:55We're looking at ambassadors program, will be seasonal.
19:58So they'll be covered until November.
20:01Our goal is to have them start working in May and go work from May to November.
20:05It would be seasonal.
20:06Because it's no, I wouldn't want to have a neighborhood ambassador in this in this in this context.
20:12We're talking about gun violence and dealing with neighborhoods where like on Palmer, it would be great to have an ambassador on it, right?
20:18Um, but we know those activities happen between um possibly May, some now at this point sooner April to November.
20:27So it's looking, we're looking at those positions to be able to do that.
20:30We don't need funding to 2028 and not 2027.
20:34Yeah, we have enough to cover us through to 2027.
20:38Okay, so you don't need funding right now for that.
20:42So let me ask you a question.
20:43Um Pastor Latif, uh, my friend.
20:47Um, you know, we talk all the time.
20:49I think we probably speak daily about the way the gun violence programs you and um, and I sit on the gun violence task force with you, and we do a lot.
20:59So I have to be very transparent, and you know what I'm gonna say part of what I'm on offense, right?
21:05With this whole gun violence outreach, um what you do is great and phenomenal, the relationships that you have with the other entities from the federal government to all those pieces, right?
21:18But what with people in the community looking, and even myself, what would make them feel that this is really important?
21:26Like why, and this is why I say this, and it's not any to your against you.
21:32But when I look at your budget and I look at parks budget and I look at the money that we use for the gun vibe, the outreach, but then we look at parks and they're they don't even have that even money to even do those same things for kids, they're just in the parks, right?
21:49Or kids and families.
21:50What would make us like what what stands out or what is going on now that you would say, hey Rashida, like listen, this is what's moving forward.
21:57This is what we need, and this is why this is should be should go on.
22:01So I would say when you look at the mayor's office to reduce gun violence, and some people come to me and say, What program do you have?
22:08The city of Syracuse, the mayor's office, we don't have a program.
22:11We oversee an ecosystem.
22:13This ecosystem is very important because what we found out over the last four years, Syracuse had tons of programs, but the gun violence continued to go up.
22:24Because programs weren't being held responsible or accountable for what they were doing.
22:31So you get individuals or organizations that comes to the table, and they're not receiving any money from the city of Syracuse at the time, but they're receiving money from other entities, and they say they're doing work in the community, but we see the violence continue to rise.
22:46During the last four years, and it'd be about four years, uh, a couple weeks ago, been four years in this position.
22:51We've seen gun violence go down because now we are holding organizations accountable to do the work that they say they're gonna that they say they're gonna do.
23:00I'm out all day, even like today, like I said, when when there is a shooting or um when we do what's called a shooting response, and I'm able to see what the organizations are really doing.
23:12So I think that is the number one thing.
23:15The next thing I would say is the partnering with law enforcement.
23:18Um I think has been historical what we've seen over the last four years with outreach organizations and law enforcement working together, um, not just to deal with high-risk individual with individuals, but also talk about the preventative work.
23:33Um the preventative work is very important, and that's what we do here, not just responding to violence or responding to shootings, but also talking about prevention.
23:43As we see those numbers come down, it's because we've been focused on that.
23:46Lastly, I would say when you talk to individuals in the community that I've been in touch with, um, they see the importance of it because we are serving the community.
23:55We've had um several retreats where we've took victims, families victims of gun violence.
24:00At least we've done two two already, where we have mothers that have been impacted by gun violence.
24:06Where the city has never done that before, where we've taken time and invested into these mothers and these families who are victims of gun violence.
24:14Um these are important.
24:16Um I think the city sees that.
24:19Um there are others here.
24:20We have the police department here who we've been partnering with.
24:24And I mean, if you on a uh deputy uh chief Mets has come, and I know you comfortable being put on the spot and just kind of give us a perspective while you're here.
24:34Okay, yeah, please do, because I'd like to hear what you have to say too.
24:37I think it's important.
24:38Yeah, so is Latif had spoken before about um obviously the collaborative effort that we have.
24:44It's integral part of our enforcement strategy.
25:00And I think that collaboration we have between Latif's office and ours allows us to not only focus our efforts directly on what it is the we'll call it the root cause of problem, the 15 to 20 individuals, but that that directed focus in the collaboration between two of us and that increased enforcement effort, which is you know, is a I wouldn't say a primary contributor is one of the contributing factors to the drop in in violent crime that we've seen allows all the other programs that are in the city to flourish.
25:28So I know Councillor Caldwell's big on like, hey, what are you gonna do for the good kids?
25:32Our collaborative focus allows those programs and parks or whatever to take place because we're our efforts on these kids and containing them and reducing them and the outreach, you know, getting them before they do that.
25:44That's what makes those other programs grow and flourish and allows the neighbors to enjoy those those events at the parks on Saturdays, or is we in regards to Palmer Ave, like hey, you should have the ability to sit out on your front porch and enjoy the the day with your family.
26:02So that collaboration, if we don't have that, it we as a police department, we can't do it by ourselves.
26:08So we need Latif's group to do that, and it allows for the big picture on the macro side of the house for us to be able to concentrate our efforts collaboratively, both prevention-wise, and then on the reactive side, but also it allows everything else to to grow, to flourish, to prosper um when we focus our efforts on on the problems.
26:27We we know the issues are, we know who the people are doing that, but we can't do it alone and in with Latifs group, it's a huge asset to us.
26:35Is that counselor Monto, is that answer your question or provide a little bit more perspective, or they start talking and go off in a different direction.
26:41No, no, you you did.
26:42I think it Rashida and I were sitting here talking a little bit before about it.
26:47Sorry, but when we look at like the parks, when we look at the parks budget, you look at what what what where we're throwing money for the positive approach versus where we're throwing money to try to combat the problems.
26:57I think we're pretty bad at every time a gun is fired in this city.
27:01I can guarantee you the news is going to report that.
27:03We're not very good at reporting where we have successes.
27:06So we kind of get into a spot where we're saying, like, okay, is this actually succeeding?
27:10Because we're not seeing our own praises, and I think we have to just be better at that.
27:13Because there are kids getting saved.
27:15It's just that the public is hearing there's a murder or there's a gunshot instead of hearing like look where we are having success.
27:22You know, messaging, like I didn't go to school for PR, so I'm not I'm not your messaging guy, but I think at least when we go to those weekly meetings, and for obviously we can talk about stats and data-driven, but yeah, we probably do have to do a better job of you know, kind of showcasing what the work has been done, what we're doing, and then providing so it almost an educational point to yours, like, hey, all this stuff is going on, we're offering these services and tie the data into it so you can see it.
27:50But I and I'll let Latif talk to him, but the phone calls that he receives, and this is the part that we don't get like, hey, something's going to happen.
27:58There is some type of incident taking place.
28:00All those side conversations like you guys are talking about, like we never we don't see it on the police department side, but he sees that and he's able to filter that information to us, and that's invaluable, like on the preventative side.
28:11Because people reach out to him, they don't reach out to to Dave Metz in the uniform or any other.
28:16Like those are the people that that help us and are huge assets to us on the prevention side of the house.
28:21And you are right, we we probably don't broadcast or publicize that enough.
28:25But I just the ability to collaborate and do that, we we would lose that if you know Latif's group wasn't involved, counselor.
28:32I want to ask you about uh the neighborhood ambassadors.
28:35You haven't appointed them, but it would be good if they would meet with the district counselors, like one on the north side, where we could point out pinpoint where the issues are, like on Butternut Street, the old shopping center, certain blocks though, there's a lot of drug activity, Catherine Street, just to get an example.
28:55But I think the ambassadors would like us as district counselors would like to work with the ambassadors and talk with them and maybe take them to a meeting, a neighborhood meeting, like my group, is Captain Metz knows my group.
29:08And I think that would be very important though.
29:12We know who they are and uh we could walk them through, and we want to work closely with you as well.
29:19Yeah, because I've done what Captain what Chief Metz.
29:23What is the role of the ambassadors really we do?
29:26Like far, it's like um in a community with this gun violence.
29:32So um when this was kind of when we thought about this, it's getting away from the hood.
29:38We have neighborhoods, we don't have hoods.
29:40Um, but what kids see, shooters, if you want to call them that, um, when they come outside, they see nobody outside.
29:48So they call it the hood.
29:50But when you think about it, these are neighborhoods because the gentleman that was shot on last week, um, used to come to my church all the time, and that he was actually visiting his family down there on Palmer.
30:00And that he was actually visiting his family down there on Palmer.
30:02He lived up another place.
30:03He used to walk every day, right?
30:06So our goal is to empower neighbors.
30:09So the ambassadors is to get people to talk again to come to come out their house again.
30:14That when I go on Palmer last week, I was on Palmer three or four times is to see the kids who was out there, like kids seeing outside because these kids are affected.
30:23These are the good kids we talk about that we have to still service in another capacity.
30:27That neighborhood ambassador is important over there.
30:30Because they're going to be the one to be able to tell me what we need to do in that area, partnering with pastors or faith leaders and having bi-weekly meetings or weekly meetings where they talk about and they get to get together in some meetings that they might never have been able to have a voice in to talk about some of the issues that's been going on.
30:47Being able to say, hey, um last week I saw the kids um down the street with a gun or whatever may be in a safe space.
30:55So that ambassador is really going to coordinate that meeting so that they can all talk in a safe space about what's going on.
31:01And it might not be about a shooter, it might be about overgrown uh uh somebody got overgrown grass or whatever it may be.
31:08Um so we can get our SEPTEP team down there to do what they need to do, but it's giving them a safe place to talk about situations in the neighborhood.
31:18Um, and it doesn't always just have to be gun violence, it could be anything, but it's giving them empowering them that they can speak again because for too long, people in neighborhoods don't come out, they don't speak.
31:29They say they don't want to snitch, right?
31:32So we're trying to change that narrative where they can get together to that ambassador is gonna be somebody that's embedded in the community, embedded, not somebody that hangs outside, but embedded.
31:42I mean, they've been working and living that community for a long time.
31:45We want that type of person to be in that area to connect with faith leaders to have meetings at least weekly or bi-weekly.
31:51So that's the goal of the ambassador.
31:55So um I like, I mean, we and you talked about this, so I I sort of I sort of like it, but the only question, well, there's several questions.
32:06We have several ambassadors in the community, right?
32:09We got the snub, which is supposed to be the ambassadors in neighborhoods.
32:14That's why they're located based on the neighborhood they were doing whatever.
32:19We got the ambassadors that the city has.
32:22We have the other group that their ambassadors that we contract out to do very similar about those things.
32:28Like my biggest thing is we have so many ambassadors doing different, like almost very similar.
32:35We have to come up with a plan where that it makes sense that whatever they're doing, that they're neutralized together, right?
32:42Because there's so many, we have a lot of ambassadors throughout the city in different capacities in that.
32:48And the other thought is um I called when I called you the other day.
32:56No, no, you're okay.
32:57You don't have to stay in there.
32:58But it's a you can sit down from um the other thing is, you know, we talked the other day and there was families that called and um said, hey Rashida, we we focus so much on the kids that are doing stuff, and we focus on all this other piece, but we forgot that these kids that are left behind that aren't doing anything, but they're the victims of the family members who got murdered, right?
33:26There's that piece that no one's even even thinking about.
33:29And I don't want to interrupt you, that's the piece that we're working on right now.
33:32Like today, we so uh something that Noble has taught me is that every time there's a homicide, I actually go sit in the neighborhood at 7.30 in the morning.
33:42So on Palmer on Bear, where there was a shooting, I went and sat out there at 7:30 in the morning, and what I got to see is kids coming outside.
33:50Those are the kids you're talking about.
33:52So I don't just go out there and just sit there.
33:54I'm trying to figure out how we can service them.
33:56So what we're doing, which is important.
33:58So this is out of our office, nobody else is gonna do it.
34:01So they say they do it, but they don't.
34:03I've four years now, people don't do what they say they're gonna do.
34:06But now our office has taken on to do it.
34:09So today we're going to service those same kids you're talking about, the good kids, but they're impacted because they live on Palmer.
34:15I gotta still service those kids in that way, which takes a unique type of service because it's a therapeutic approach to these kids.
34:23And what bothers me is on um last week, I'm on Palmer and I see kids is walking and going to school, and they're not affected.
34:33Because they should feel they should some people in other neighborhoods, they wouldn't even come out their home.
34:38But these kids still gotta go to school.
34:40That's where our office comes in.
34:41That's the important part when we talk about this type of work, is that we have to be able to service those kids and provide a service in a unique situation, which we are doing now.
34:50So I think when we talk about the kids, because I believe all kids, they don't no kid comes out bad.
34:57They make bad decisions, or we interviewed a gentleman.
35:00Or we interviewed a gentleman.
35:01Um, and just to throw a little plug in, we do interviews for anybody that works with us.
35:05So we're not doing no gangbangers working on the clock no more.
35:09And I want to say that publicly because we put everybody through an interview process.
35:14And one of the young men said last week that interview, he said he didn't have no one.
35:19He had no one to interrupt, he had no one to help him.
35:22We're making those changes now.
35:24Because today, when we meet at three o'clock over there at Price Right, those kids are gonna meet somebody that cares about them.
35:30That's the importance of our program.
35:32It's organic and is led by a pastor that that works in the community that after I leave here, I have to pastor in the same community.
35:39The young the young man that was murdered last week, he used to come to our food pantry.
35:44So it's more personal for me.
35:45This ain't just like some game, you know.
35:47I don't, I don't, I don't care about the money, I care about the people.
35:50I I think that um I think that what you just said speaks to what Rashida has been saying about being proactive instead of reactive, as far as um, you know, exposure for kids, like you saying these kids, they they come out the same day, next day, unbothered, you know, because this is the norm for them, and and it's more or less about exposure.
36:15They're exposed to this 24-7 per se.
36:19And so they think that's normal, but we're not exposing them to uh campgrounds, we're not exposing them to you know, the city state parks, um, which when I was younger, you know, parks department they there was probably a little bit more funding and all of that, though all of those things happen.
36:36So I don't know if there is a um opportunity for your program to shift a little bit to what Rashida has been saying as far as like not focusing solely on those who are already in trouble, but those who may be on the way because they're in those neighborhoods.
36:56And that's the goal of the program, not to interrupt you, but when we go out today, the goal is not to sit there and talk to a kid about putting down guns.
37:02These are kids that's going to school every day.
37:04Yeah, so the organizations that we have out there, like the YMCA will be out there, different um trauma response team.
37:10It's not to just sit there and talk about don't play with guns because these kids don't have no involvement with guns, but to do exactly that.
37:16We talked about that last Thursday again.
37:17That's the importance of the weekly meetings.
37:19We just talked about follow-through.
37:21So meeting with those kids again.
37:22So if you meet with a kid, kid A, he lives on Palmer, he was impacted by gun violence, is to make sure we make sure he's healthy, making sure we give him mental health first aid, but then also what's the follow-through, right?
37:34You guys designing some trips.
37:36That again, this is the ecosystem.
37:38That's why I gave you this.
37:39This is what we do here.
37:40We're gonna hold organizations accountable to make sure they're doing the work that they said they're gonna do.
37:44So if it's college tours, the organizations they've received funding for that.
37:48We need to make sure the kids are going.
37:50Prior to four years ago, some of the kids what going and they were getting a check.
37:55Now you have somebody in office that's gonna make sure that happens again.
37:58I want to I'm giving pushback because I wanted you to get the importance of our office.
38:01And if you don't have us here, we'll we'll see where things go.
38:04Because after four years, we've been doing our job.
38:06So before we go to push um uh a campaign for snitching for the last three years, um, and that silence never improved the community's health.
38:17Say that one more time, council.
38:20Yeah, silence never improve the community's health.
38:26So I wanted to ask you, um, and going back to the neighborhood ambassadors and the points Rashida was bringing up.
38:33So these ambassadors, they're almost debriefing traumatic experiences with these children and families, correct?
38:40And so, like you just said, that is like even therapeutic therapeutical.
38:46And uh, and so it's that requires specialized skills.
38:50So these ambassadors will require to have these skills to be able to deal with this.
38:55So remember that the ambassador is just the coordinator, they just get the meetings together, they're just bringing their own.
39:01So then they're supported by those skilled services.
39:04So we have therapists, we have family functional therapists.
39:07We also kind again, that was professional service that's in the line.
39:10We would use that to hire.
39:11If we had an ambassador's meeting, just give me an example.
39:14I know we gotta hurry up here.
39:16But if we have a meeting on the South Side on Thursday, that ambassador is gonna coordinate that meeting, gonna meet with his coordinator, supervisor, and myself to say, hey, on this day, can we have a therapist come and talk to the group?
39:28That was my question.
39:29They're gonna just be the person that just coordinates the meeting.
39:31Because this that's very important.
39:34My last question, I know you gotta cut off.
39:36My meeting is next, HR.
39:38Listen, the other piece that um I didn't get it, maybe I didn't explain it right.
39:45So once someone is murdered, right?
39:47Typically, there's some children in that family, whether it's uh son or daughter, a sibling, right?
39:55Those people were affected, right?
40:00But the after fact of those children are the ones that we don't even touch nowhere.
40:05There's nowhere that says, you know, I have I had families call me, like I said the other day, say, hey Rashida, I have one child that got their mother died of gun violence and their father died of gun violence.
40:19They're trying to play be uh in cheer.
40:21They want to cheer, right?
40:23Those are the kids that we all there's a whole another group of kids that we forgot about where no one's touching, no one's there they forgot that these are the kids of the people that are dead now, right?
40:36That have been affected.
40:37And there's studies that show that if we don't touch that piece of those kids, then the the cycle continues, right?
40:45Because they don't have a father, they don't have a mother, and it was affected from gun violence.
40:49So that's where I would love to see because I've called around to say, hey, who no one touches that, no one's provided supports, no one finds funding, nobody's provides anything behind that.
40:58It's like so I'm gonna ask you all to help me with this funding as we continue forward, and I'm gonna continue starting the first week in May.
41:08Exactly what you're talking about, the program where we start.
41:10So mothers against gun violence will start back up.
41:12We're funding it as of the first week of May.
41:15So we met with Leepa Jones.
41:17They will be partnering with Salvation Army to do the family functional therapy, and they'll be meeting weekly starting the first week of May.
41:25Exactly what you're talking about.
41:27So they're gonna start with the mothers, because that's important to start with the head of the household first, the ones that have been impacted by gun violence, and then the goal in the next two months is to add in the families and the children and to that again, and we can bring in again those ambassadors can be a part of that again ecosystem, bringing everybody together.
41:45But what you just said.
41:53I mean, is y'all, yeah.
41:54You know, y'all can always up us a little bit here.
41:56We we we yes, we can use that.
41:59Now I'm a pastor at the day, y'all.
42:00No, I can raise an offering.
42:02I want the kids who ain't do not.
42:06I mean, we we would like to do to do that, but again, we gotta have the funding to do that because we we have the we have things in in place, but again, that takes money.
42:15And I'm I know we might can help one or two kids, but what what happens when you help one or two?
42:19You got about 20 of them knocking down a door.
42:22So that's a problem.
42:23Thank you very much.
42:24Appreciate your time.
42:26Uh motion to adjourn.