0:09Get lost when there's two hundred pages that's um seventeen forty-four west and seventeen forty-four seventeen forty-four west Ross Road.
2:35All right, it's six o'clock.
2:36We're gonna go ahead and get started.
2:37Uh bring to order our planning commission meeting for August nineteenth, twenty twenty-five.
2:43Um the invocation would normally be given by Scott Shea, but uh Commissioner Garner will fill that in, and then we will have uh the Pledge of Allegiance led by Commissioner Anderson.
3:02Our beloved father in heaven, we pray this night, Father, the Spirit will be with us to guide us in doing those things which will help benefit this wonderful city that we live in and our citizens.
3:13We pray that we'll be mindful of each other's thoughts and help each other to come to consensus.
3:19Father, we're grateful for your trust in us and pray that you'll watch over us and bless us with those things you see that we stand in need of.
3:27Humbly in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.
3:38I've just republic for which it stands by nation under God in the end of this whole quick delivery and possesses for all thank you.
3:57All right, next uh item is the adoption of the meeting agenda, which has been posted in accordance with state law.
4:04Uh take a motion to adopt motion to adopt a second.
4:09We have a motion and a second, all in favor, say aye.
4:16Uh we'll now be uh confirming the meeting minutes from the meeting and work session from July fifteenth on twenty twenty-five.
4:26Um barring any notes or notations that need to be updated.
4:32We'll take a motion to adopt those minutes.
4:34Chair King, I'll make a motion that we adopt the regular meetings as posted for the regular meeting and the work session for July fifteenth.
4:42Got a motion and second, second all in favor?
4:49First item or number three item.
4:52Uh we have a public comment.
4:55Uh, we will this is an opportunity for the uh public to address the planning commission regarding items that are not scheduled for public hearing on this agenda.
5:04Um we would ask that you consider others and limit your comments to three minutes.
5:09So if there's anyone here to make a comment on one of the items listed on the agenda, we would ask that you wait for the appropriate time for for those public hearings.
5:19We'll go ahead and open public comment.
5:28Go ahead and close public comment.
5:31Our first item is a preliminary plot for Westlake landing.
5:40So this is uh it's a commercial plat on the corner of uh 2000 West and 2700 South.
5:47Um what's been proposed here that I guess before I get into it, um, there are a couple of things in terms of conditional approval, and we have we have a couple of items like this tonight.
5:59Um, so we reached a point where there were some some items that the uh the applicant was still working out with our city engineer.
6:06Um, so he has some outstanding comments.
6:08Planning and and fire, I believe fire actually had an outstanding comment as well.
6:11Uh planning is good to go on this one.
6:14Um, but uh in terms of the recommendation, we do have this uh these these uh conditions here.
6:22So um we we do recommend it it be approved based off of the discussions that we've had with the applicant.
6:28We have full faith that they'll address everything.
6:30I just wanted to go over that first.
6:32Um oh, and I also have one person here online joining.
6:39So this subdivision is uh it's just this area here.
6:44Um so the actual corner is going to be a separate piece of property.
6:49Um we have two access roads that are proposed to come into this area for potential residential development in the future.
6:56Uh currently the number of lots here allows it to be a minor subdivision.
7:02Um the uh they're gonna be dedicating some right-of-way.
7:07And uh we also had some previous right-of-way dedication here that'll be removed as part of this plot.
7:12Um so, but this would be uh really the first commercial development in the area.
7:19Um so we were hoping to see some commercial development down here uh when we anticipate the West Dort Davis corridor coming in and seeing that uh 2000 Westchange.
7:31So the overall layout here though, to my understanding, they have some clients that are looking at uh properties already.
7:40Um the uh there is a lot of internal access here though.
7:45And one thing that did come up as we were discussing it this morning is ensuring that we have internal access to this property as well, uh, so that they aren't uh limited to access only from uh either the the public road here or from the the public existing roads.
8:03Um but again, like I said, the uh staff is confident the applicant is gonna address what is remaining.
8:12Um so uh based on what has been proposed here, we would recommend that conditional approval.
8:18Um and for those who are new to the commission, if anyone decides to make a motion along those lines, um, we would just recommend that uh I mean you can use the language or not, it's up to you, it's recommended language, but that it does include you know on the conditions of, and I've I've listed those two up here.
8:35Um, but that's all I have for now.
8:37I'll entertain any questions from the commission.
8:42I have a concern, Royce.
8:45Um Trailside Park is adjacent to the property.
8:49Uh the Syracuse Trail is right through there at roundabout area.
8:54Since you haven't had the the freeway there, 2000 West is gets a lot of traffic in the afternoon and evenings.
8:59It also happens to be where a lot of people jog and are exercising the mornings before work, going to that trial state park, uh connecting the the uh trail system that goes right through that roundabout.
9:11So my concern would be uh additional potential pedestrian risk if there's a lot of commercial activity right there in addition to the normal traffic and all the pedestrians recreating.
9:23Yeah, no, that is a good good point.
9:25Um given our up to navigate is a uh is a jogger as it is.
9:32Yeah, and we and we don't want to increase danger there.
9:34I mean, one of one of the aspects that is uh in a comment that needs to be addressed still is right-of-way dedication as part of a trail uh plan along the northern side of this property.
9:48And that that may I don't know if that necessarily alleviates the the pinch point here.
10:00Um, and that is something we'll have to address specifically when this property develops, but uh that would allow for a wider uh trail area here on the south side of 2700 that would accommodate more um more traffic, you know, pedestrians and runners and and bikes and so on.
10:12Um but as far as the corner itself, uh where that isn't within the project area per se.
10:19Um as far as our plan goes, we don't really have any uh anything specifically to address the safety aspect there outside of you know, we have crossings, they're they're clearly marked, designated is it is a trail master plan area.
10:35Uh and in the future, at some points we anticipate there may be a light there at that intersection.
10:42Um, but that would be future developments, and uh that would also reroute potentially uh bluff so that it's no longer such a heavy intersection.
10:53And will you just briefly point out that intersection or probably growth access we're talking about on 2000 West, just on your let's see here.
11:06Yeah, just so I can yeah.
11:09So and you're you're talking about the proposed roads.
11:13So we have one here that's going to line up with Trail Side Drive, and there's another one that comes in from the north side that would line up potentially with the future re-alignment of Bluff Road.
11:25Um, so we have one from up here, one from over here.
11:30And and one thing that I I did forget to mention um is there is a point of non-conformity with the code here, and they are kind of painted into a corner in this sense.
11:41Uh the code requires that between intersections, the center lines have to be at least 385 feet if you're going 35 miles per hour.
11:49So uh there's nothing they can really do about that.
11:52These are existing streets, and we would like the road to line up.
11:55Um so the planning commission has the ability to allow that uh like essentially an administrative variance more or less um to allow them to put the streets closer together.
12:07Um so again, if they're lining up with this existing street, it's not creating more non-conformity, it would just be extending across the road.
12:14The separation here though, just when it was approved, for whatever reason, this doesn't comply with our current code, and so we wanted to make sure that was addressed as well.
12:22Right, that's what I was referring to, just so I know that we're trying to aesthetically match those roads up and make it all fit.
12:30Yes, we would like them to intersect so it is a straight shot rather than creating more issues.
12:45This item is open for public hearing.
12:48So um, again, if you have uh cut comments or concerns about this particular item, we will go ahead and open public hearing, same as before.
12:57Please limit your comments to three minutes or less.
13:02Well seeing none, go ahead and close public hearing.
13:10Um is Charles Osman or the developer in the room.
13:23My name is Charles Osman.
13:25My office, I live in Liberty, so I'll just give you my office address is 340 West Antelope Drive here in um Clearfield.
13:34So I'm the developer and landowner on this.
13:37This is Mike Staten.
13:38He's our um civil engineer that's done all of the work on this.
13:42We can kind of answer a couple of your questions um to do with your trail question and the safety on that.
13:49We have already in our design added additional roadway space as per what was requested along 2700, and then the piece at the bottom here on 2000.
14:02We've already addressed that.
14:04So there will be additional roadway where the public can ride their bikes or um jog if they want to jog in the road, I guess.
14:14So we have addressed that.
14:15Um we can't really address the main corner because that is owned by Wasatch Investments, um, who are also the owners of holiday oil, and they will be bringing in theirs uh separately from us.
14:29But we are designing together, so we know that they are doing a similar thing to what we have done.
14:34So we we feel we have addressed that for you.
14:37Um they may not be markings on the road until the city decides what to do on that, because that's not our place to mark, but we have created that um space for that to happen.
14:48As far as uh your question, all we can really do is line up with Trailside Drive.
14:55If there was another option, we'd roll with it, but there doesn't appear to be any other way to do it than what has already been designed.
15:03Any other questions I can answer for you?
15:06Questions from the commission.
15:15Discussion and take a motion after.
15:22Would just like to reiterate that whoever does make the motion that we do include the um city notes and the concerns that will uh be met before for the conditional approval.
15:41No comments I can make a motion.
15:43Well, uh, move the planning commission, give a conditional approval.
15:47Uh the request of Charles Osman for the minor plat called West Lake Landing property located at 2200 west, 2700 south, containing 13.648 acres in the GC zone with the conditions that all staff comments must be addressed before the plat is recorded with Davis County and recognizing that the access road at 2000 West is not comply with the 7.5 second separation requirement.
16:14Thank you, Commissioner Anderson.
16:16We have a second, second.
16:18Have a second, all in favor?
16:24All right, thank you.
16:26All right, we'll move on to the next item.
16:29A uh site plan uh for the request by Fort Street Partners uh commercial site.
16:36Fellow commissioners, uh, I need to recuse myself from this item.
16:41I have a client that's uh involved with the four street partners.
16:46So I'll I'll stay quiet.
16:49Thank you, Commissioner Nielsen.
16:52Uh, we'll notate that for the minutes.
16:56So this uh this site plan, it's kind of an unconventional type use.
17:01Uh that we don't the the code doesn't necessarily address a lot of specifics here in terms of access, but um we we met with the ARC a couple of weeks ago.
17:14And uh feel like we've we've been over this pretty thoroughly in terms of trying to make sure that the code applies as as best it can.
17:22So uh usually our use is there's some sort of a pedestrian type access to the actual uh use itself.
17:29And in this case, there is a pedestrian access, but it's only going to be for employees on the side there.
17:35The actual customer access is just going to be automobile only.
17:39So kind of looking at this in a similar way is uh excuse me, as a drive-through only uh business.
17:46So essentially people would drive in from this direction, north is on the right or left side, and they would stay in their cars to have the road changed and then pull out this way.
17:56So um we do have uh in terms of the pedestrian access requirements, everything that is required for regular access has been met here again, just for this pedestrian entrance.
18:09Um the uh ARC, go back up to report.
18:15The ARC did make a couple of recommendations, one of which is has been addressed by the applicant.
18:21Uh, and the other, uh, they were they were a little concerned about whether it was going to be necessarily required.
18:27I I told them that is up to planning commission's deliberation.
18:30So the first one was that lighting on the west side of the building.
18:32They've they've added that.
18:34There were some concerns from the ARC about uh security.
18:38And uh the second one there is about placing awnings over the garage bays on the north side.
18:43Um the the code has some relatively loose language about awnings over main entrances, but it's not a requirement, it's more of an option.
18:52There's there's kind of a series of options that can be added over main entrances for buildings.
18:58Uh and awnings is just one of those things.
19:00Technically, they do meet the requirements of the of that code.
19:04So uh this wouldn't be a code requirement to add the awnings if if the planning commission decided that the awnings were needed, uh, that would be something that we would need to have some sort of determination of uh here's why, right?
19:17Some justification for for that.
19:18So let me give you an idea of what that looks like here.
19:31So the north elevation, uh it's pretty um, well, I mean, this this does again comply also with the uh requirements for the subdivision.
19:41Um they they took some steps to change some coloration and things and bring it into compliance with uh the design pattern book.
19:48But again, if awnings were required, it would be along uh this side.
19:53So um the overall design of the building, that's the I guess that's relatively flush with the building.
20:02Um the the tower uh section here is is facing the road, and that was a negotiation uh with the applicant.
20:11We do require the main facade to face the road, and in this case it just wasn't functional for the use.
20:16So um yeah, we've we've been over quite a few elements of of technicality, I guess, in the code on this one to try and make it fit as best as possible.
20:26So um again, if the awnings are required, it would just be over this section.
20:31Um, and we would need some sort of reason why per se.
20:35Uh the the ARC, the discussion there, it was essentially that would clearly identify the entrance, which um I feel like it is fairly clearly identified.
20:45They're gonna have signage and things as well.
20:47Um, but it would also help, you know, with with the architecture in terms of um varying that wall plane a little bit.
20:54So uh, but that that was pretty much the extent of the discussion with the ARC.
20:59So uh if the planning commission would like to do that, that would be a condition of approval.
21:04Um, and again, that first item has has already been addressed.
21:08So you can add that as a condition if you'd like, but the applicant has voluntarily taken care of that.
21:13Um that's all I have.
21:18Before you what and what's your thoughts on bicycles?
21:22What I was gonna say, since I'm gonna go to the city.
21:24Oh, yeah, no, that is a good point.
21:27Uh I I made the applicant aware of that.
21:30There does need to be bicycle parking.
21:32That is a good point.
21:33Um, so the bicycle parking could be added really anywhere in here.
21:37Um, they only need one bicycle parking space for the number of spaces they have.
21:41So um that is something the applicant is working on as well.
21:46I think we can add that in as a condition as well.
21:50This uh item is available is open for public hearing.
21:54So again, if you're here to make a comment on this item tonight, we'll open up public hearing.
22:00Please limit your uh comments to three minutes or less.
22:07Seeing none, we'll go ahead and close public hearing.
22:10Open it up to the commission.
22:12We have the developer here with us.
22:18Yes, uh Jennifer Nanas with Fort Street Partners.
22:23Uh questions from the commission for the developer at all.
22:31I uh would like to just reaffirm and confirm what I heard with you, Royce.
22:38Um they they are planning to do the awnings.
22:42Um that's part of what they're they're going to be doing.
22:44And they are planning on doing the bike, the bicycle uh parking, correct?
22:50So the the bicycle parking, yes.
22:52Uh the awnings, that that was a concern of the applicants.
22:55They I they would rather not do that from what the architect told me.
22:58So if the commission again wants to do that, that's something that again we need to justify to them because we're we're requiring in that case something that would be above and beyond what's in the ordinance.
23:10And the with the applicant online, can you give us comments regarding that with the awning?
23:15What maybe your concerns are?
23:17Um the concerns are just the additional costs associated with the build.
23:21If we can keep it a little bit more on the affordable side, that would be our our concerns associated.
23:26But if that's a requirement, we would just want to understand where the commission is coming from.
23:36Chair, uh, so just pulling it up.
23:38This is what I was referring to in terms of the uh the entrances section.
23:43So it says that they have to have at least three of the following, some sort of prominent architectural feature, complementary yet differing materials or colors, increased use of windows and glass, pedestrian amenities.
23:53It may include that right and awnings is one of those many things and increased landscaping.
23:59Uh they already uh have these three on that side.
24:04Um, so again, they they do meet the ordinance.
24:07If we wanted to require that again, it is above and beyond.
24:11I honestly don't think those awnings are needed.
24:13I mean, I don't and honestly, I mean, you see a lot of awnings uh on on buildings as they get older, they get you know worn out and they just look bad.
24:21I I honestly get uh up, and if they're already meeting the code, I'm yeah, they're if they're meeting the ordinance on the code.
24:31I would also add that if we required awning, it might set a precedent in the area of others needing to do the same, and then we potentially exacerbate that same issue.
24:42Yeah, have a whole corner area that's got all these you know additional features that need to be up kept to maintain the integrity of the area and its look.
24:56Um this to clarify, Royce.
25:00This is the property that's going west of the Jags, correct?
25:04And the uh the building will be facing Antelope Drive.
25:07Well, basically, those those bays will be facing Antelope.
25:12Yeah, the uh the exits of them will be the entrances won't.
25:15We'll be you won't even see the you won't even see the awnings from the from Anlow.
25:18Entrance will be off of 3,000 West.
25:21The entrance would be through the uh internal drive.
25:25So there's one a couple properties to the west, it would come up and then east, and uh you'd have to come in from the north of this property.
25:32Um, but this is gonna be the southern elevation that'll be facing Antelope, and there's a northern elevation that would be the main entrance.
25:39Okay, yeah, they've uh they they put one of these up north in uh West Point.
25:46Um it's not bad looking.
25:49No, it's that's good.
25:51All right, if there are no other comments, we'll take a motion.
26:04I move the planning commission to approve the request of Heather Lulin uh for the site plan called Take Five Oil on property located at 3062 West, 170 South containing 0.71 acres in the GC zone.
26:21We have a we need to add that condition in.
26:23Do we need to add a couple of things?
26:24Oh, yeah, for need the condition.
26:27Oh, yeah, if you wouldn't mind adding the bicycle parking.
26:30Okay, do I need to reset my motion then?
26:34No, you can just say adding a condition.
26:36I move that we uh add the recommended uh bicycle parking.
26:42Uh must be shown on the site plan drawings before a building permit will be granted.
26:49Second, second seconded.
26:58Next item on the agenda is a zoning amendment from minor subdivision.
27:02This will be available for public hearing as well.
27:14So we have uh an application here for it's it's more of just a lot split.
27:19Uh, but technically, any time you subdivide a property in the city, it's it's going to be considered an official subdivision.
27:25So uh the intent of this is to split off an existing home from the larger property.
27:31So this property is just west of the uh commercial property we were just talking about.
27:36Uh and currently there is uh subdivision that has been in in process to the west of this one.
27:43So the subdivision plat basically just breaks off this piece here, this house parcel and leaves a section for future development.
27:51Um there's also going to be a rezone associated with this one.
27:55So uh it is a little bit unique, and again, this would be a conditional approval.
28:00So the condition in this case though would be conditional on the rezone passing with the city council.
28:05Uh it is up to the the planning commission.
28:08You can either do a conditional approval with this one now, as it is, or you could uh recommend it be continued until the the city council passes the R2 rezone, uh assuming that they do.
28:22Um the what's shown here would require the R2 zoning.
28:27Uh the current zoning does not allow for this size of property.
28:31So if it was rezoned, this could be approved, it would be just fine.
28:35Uh, but the zoning does not currently apply.
28:37So we can't approve this here tonight.
28:39And so any any sort of approval would be conditional on a on a future approval of a rezone.
28:45Um, in terms of the review, the there were some really minor uh comments that I had, just remaining renaming some of these parcels just for clarity uh for the for the county things like that.
28:57So it's just clerical things.
28:58Uh the dimensions of what's shown and and uh how it's laid out all complies with the R2 zoning.
29:05So again, with that conditional approval, that it would it would apply.
29:14All right, we will open this up for public hearing.
29:17Same rules as before.
29:22Seeing none, we'll go ahead and close public hearing.
29:26Open it up to the commission.
29:33Royce, with this remainder parcel that we're looking at, this huge triangle.
29:38Um is the future plan for this to be R1, R2 all the way to the end of that.
29:45Yeah, so the request is for the whole property to be R2.
29:48And so, oh sorry, no one's no is correcting me.
29:53Uh, just the house would be rezoned to match the request of size, the rest of it remain A1.
30:00That's just a good that's a separate application that's also on the agenda here.
30:03We'll deal with that in a minute.
30:04Thank you for the clarification.
30:05I just was trying to look through the packet and get that information.
30:18If there are no other questions, the commission will take a motion.
30:23And this is a conditional based on conditional approval based on the approval of the rezoning.
30:34So are we just approving the parcel split?
30:36Is that all we're approved approving here just with the condition?
30:40And it technically, like I said, it is a subdivision just because it does create another lot.
30:44Um so it's it's technically a minor subdivision, is what this would be, but yeah, it's for all intents and purposes, it's just a lot split.
30:53Can you bring up that language just for us?
30:57Um Commissioner Anderson.
31:02Okay, I move that we conditionally approve the minor subdivision application from David Bennett for approximately 3.165 acres located approximately 2402 west, 2700 south, uh, with the condition of city council approval of the rezoning of the lots.
31:24Do we have a second?
31:39Next motion on the agenda is a conditional use permit request by Shay Barton.
31:48And actually, uh so we the way that we set the agenda up, just uh we put both of these items into item, I believe it's what is that item four there, item three.
31:57The rezone as well uh would be included in that.
32:02So um if I can just go over that quickly, if that's all right.
32:06So this is this is for the project we were just talking about, and as Noah clarified, that smaller lot is the one intended to be rezoned.
32:13The rest of it to remain is A1.
32:15Uh A1 is kind of our placeholder zone for future development.
32:19Uh technically, if the rezone was approved and the lot was then subdivided and recorded, um, they could potentially build a house on the other one because it does have enough street frontage there on 2700, but it just would be one lot, and there isn't enough to do more than that.
32:37So they do have a stub coming in from the east side.
32:40Uh my Google Earth imagery, I think is not updated to the current to uh show that yet, but there is uh a stub roughly there ish that would come in.
32:52So uh they have the street frontage here for a lot.
32:56They also can then potentially rezone the rest of this to something else, and then uh they would have access to build uh in that area as well.
33:04So but again, that would be future developments.
33:07Uh the only section being rezoned is just this house and its yard.
33:11So the request here or this this uh recommendation, this is a recommendation to the city council.
33:18So a motion would be along the lines of uh, you know, uh that we approve or we recommend the city council approve the rezone.
33:26Um but this is this would facilitate that subdivision plat.
33:34And being as we already had public hearing on that on this item all together.
33:38Um this is the applicant.
33:43Do you have anything that you'd like to add?
33:46No, well, I guess what we're trying to do is we're splitting my mother's house off the rest of the property.
33:53I'm I'm keeping uh main mean anchorage.
33:57Uh we're splitting in a lot so we could sell her house.
34:03That's basically what we're trying to achieve.
34:14Any questions from commission on this one?
34:17Yeah, we'll uh take a motion for recommendation to city council.
34:24I will make a motion that we for recommendation to the city council for approval of the property located at uh I just oh 2402 west 2700 south to be um moved to um R2.
34:42And this is a recommendation to the city council.
34:46Okay, we have a motion.
34:47Do we have a second?
35:07So this is uh it's gonna be a home occupation.
35:10Uh and in our code home occupation home business, it's the same same thing.
35:15Um so we we've received this application specifically for uh it's it's sort of a tutoring uh service for dyslexia uh folks with dyslexia.
35:28Um the number of employees is compliant with the code.
35:32What they proposed is is all compliant with our home occupation code.
35:36Um just given the the size of the business, it does require it to come to planning commission for approval.
35:42So if approved, they would be able to operate within the parameters of what's in the code, but if they added in another employee or uh expanded the the school to include a greater number of students that would require a move to a commercial zone.
35:58So these these home business allowances are uh are set up specifically to be keep it um as compliant with the the existing character of the neighborhood as possible.
36:08Um you want to be able to essentially drive down the street and not really know that it's there.
36:13So um that's that's basically what is is proposed here.
36:17It'll be in the back uh backyard area in a an accessory building that's proposed.
36:23Um and so they have provided uh let's see.
36:29Well, they're provided that they're gonna be applying for a building permit.
36:32So the building doesn't currently exist, but if this is approved, the building will be built and they will be able to operate their business.
36:40Um and the building of the building is separate.
36:42So the way this is is written, just to be clear, uh the conditional use permit being requested from the planning commission is for the business itself.
36:50Uh the building is something that we address at a staff level.
36:53We don't have to worry about that, but it does relate to this in the 10 in the sense that uh you can't use any more than 30 percent of any uh floor area for a business, and so they're they're going up to that amount.
37:04Um, and they've they've clarified that for us.
37:07So you are um looking at this for the building side.
37:13Um my question is I was reading through this and trying to find it too, is drop off for students and parking.
37:23So off street parkings provided for the uh let's see, I think they have that here.
37:29So they've got parking for their employees here.
37:32Um pick up and drop off would be on the road.
37:36So uh with the number of students that are tour tutoring, we don't anticipate any large traffic issues by any means.
37:42Um, but it is up to them to make sure that people aren't blocking driveways and fire hydrants and things like that.
37:53We have this item is open for a public hearing.
37:57Uh again, we'll open up the public hearing.
38:02Seeing none, we'll go ahead and close public hearing.
38:07Um is the applicant in the room.
38:12You mind just coming up.
38:20You don't mind just stating your name and yeah, Shea Barton um address 3594 west, 2050 south, right by um Buffalo Point Elementary.
38:30So our backyard backs up right next to that right there.
38:36Um I think the only comment so far as Commissioner Garner's about drop off.
38:43How many students do you usually have?
38:45So I only do students one at a time.
38:47So thinking it would be one-on-one.
38:49So at most it's gonna be three students that would be in there at a time.
38:54So and usually parents drop off and then pick up because it's an hour session.
38:58So yeah, and we are have we're right on the corner, so there's we have lots of parking right there too.
39:11I I do have a question and forgive my ignorance on this.
39:14So what distinguishes this from somebody that just teaches piano lessons in their house?
39:19If they've only got one student at a time for an hour, it's not like you've got a queue of 20 people in the parking lot waiting.
39:26There's not a bunch of people loitering about.
39:27So how's that different than somebody just teaching piano lessons at their house?
39:30That's a good question.
39:31Uh, per the code, it's it's just about the percentage of the building that's used.
39:35So uh that 30% threshold is is what pushes it into that uh major conditional use.
39:42So if they're if it was like a piano lesson, right?
39:44The square footage of that is really tiny, usually, but in this case, it's a larger area that's being utilized.
39:49So once you get to 30%, you would require a conditional use, and then at a certain percentage, you said was it 34?
39:57Then you have to get rezoning.
40:00So if they go above that, then there really isn't any way to operate a home occupation outside of that bounds.
40:06They're gonna have to go to some sort of commercial space.
40:09So it's not necessarily about the number of students in this case, it's about the size of the building, and the building is small.
40:14So that's that's why we're talking about the the uh cue uh dwelling unit that's gonna be added in, right?
40:21Yeah, thank you, Miss Martin.
40:23Yeah, I would add uh it's also about the number of cars that will be coming as far as the number of students and the intensity of use.
40:32And so uh residents in most zones are are allowed to have a home occupation, but where it crosses over from just a normal home occupation into a major conditional use, uh it it there's a chapter in our ordinance that you can read.
40:48It sounds like uh you know you're interested in reading all the specifics of it.
40:52So uh in the chapter, it it explains um when it becomes a major conditional use, and it has to do with the number of students that will be visiting and and as well as the size of it.
41:08So it crosses a threshold where maybe it has the potential to create a problem for the neighbors, and that's why we have a public hearing.
41:16That's why we want to talk about it and make sure that they've worked through all of their parking and potential issues, and the way conditional use will work is it it's an allowed use, um, but planning commission can review it and add conditions related to mitigating the potential impacts of that use.
41:34Uh might be hours of operation or you know, reviewing the specifics of where people are dropping off and picking up so that it just makes sure it's safe.
41:44But I'd be happy to talk more about the specifics of it after if you want.
41:49No, you've you've set aside just uh interesting comparison.
41:54Martin, if I I actually have a quick question for you.
41:58Um sorry, and just to clarify, because Noah brought it up, what is your hours that will be dropping off and picking up it'll be it's better for the for the record to go to the front.
42:15So most of the students I see um are after school hours, so they'll come when they're done with school.
42:22So usually it's between like four and seven.
42:24Um I do have quite a few um like homeschooled students that I see during the day.
42:31So um the busiest hours are gonna be between four and seven where kids are available to come to tutor.
42:39Um, but I will have students coming from probably like 7 30 in the morning to some.
42:45I have some come before school, and then my homeschool students come during the day.
42:49So I mean it's like you said, like usually like one two at a time.
42:55So it I'll it depends on how many employees I'll have.
42:59If I have if I have two, then I'll have two.
43:02And if I have, you know, whatever that is.
43:04So I the the reason I'm asking is obviously with the proximity to the elementary school kind of thing.
43:11So yeah, usually it's they'll be coming when that traffic from school is done.
43:18So it'll be like four o'clock when I it starts getting busier.
43:22So usually the the traffic's cleared out by then.
43:26My daughter goes to that school.
43:28So you know how it's crazy.
43:29It's not as crazy as it was, but it's crazy.
43:39We'll take a motion.
43:41All motion and move.
43:44Uh I motion to move the planning commission.
43:49That we approved the request of Shay Barton for uh tutoring home business on property located at 3594 West, 2050 south in the R1 zone.
44:03And this is for the conditional home uh uh use permit.
44:09Okay, we have a motion.
44:13I have a second, all in favor.
44:20All right, move on to the number eight.
44:24Or a final plot for Cole West at the Salt Rock phase.
44:33Okay, so uh you may recall a few months ago we we saw the rezone for this one and the preliminary plat go through.
44:40Uh PRD is is kind of nice that way.
44:43Uh rezone requires a preliminary plat.
44:45So we we get to see it all together.
44:47Um, so the city council approved this back in May, and they've been working on on taking care of a final plat.
44:54So this is gonna be kind of the northwest section.
45:00Um, so West Davis corridor is here, and uh then they've got the the trail side development up here with um some of the newer developments that have gone in, uh PRD developments on this side.
45:15So um what they they do include some open space.
45:20Uh the applicants also aware there's some buffer requirements there against the highway.
45:25Um, but other than that, it's it's fairly standard, like single family PRD type development.
45:32So um, but based on what's proposed here, uh, everything meets the requirements of the code, no conditional approval needed.
45:39This is more or less a rubber stamp.
45:41Uh, we would recommend approval so they can get going with recording this platform.
45:48All right, and this is just a discussion and motion for the commission tonight.
45:53So if none, take a motion for approval or whatever.
46:04Parcel A, is that a retention basin or get down to the construction drawings?
46:19So there is kind of a mixture here.
46:21You can see the the elevation lines that are proposed in this concrete here.
46:24So there is there's detention, but there's also just open space.
46:28So this will be kind of play area.
46:31Um again, there's there's buffering required here, so there'll be a sound wall, um, even though it is up against the highway.
46:39But that's that's part of their open space requirement in terms of community use in general.
46:43So, but there aren't any like specific amenities that are planned in that area.
46:48And quick question, Royce.
46:50Um, our fire marshal had you know, like four items.
46:54Have all those items for him been addressed?
46:58I so I have an email from him that's that said everything was taken care of.
47:03Still missing one hydrant.
47:07Sounds like he's saying we can take care of the hydrant at an administrative level.
47:13And thank you for being thorough.
47:21We'll take a motion.
47:28I'll move the planning commission to approve the request of Shace Free Bayern for a final plat called Salt Rock Phase One on property located at 1744 West Ross Road, containing 10.34 acres in the PRD zone, and that all requests from the staff has been approved.
47:49All right, we have a motion.
47:50Do we have a second?
47:59We will take a motion to adjourn the work session.
48:10We are in work session.
48:15We will start with department business.
48:17Where city council EISON.
48:22I just have one quick update from uh previous item that you guys have discussed.
48:28So there was a uh a request for a general map uh change and a rezone for the property on Antelope Drive, just west of the golf course clubhouse.
48:40We you guys had a discussion about golf ball safety and things like that.
48:43So that uh general map uh change and rezone was approved to go general commercial.
48:50And I think that's all I had for you guys.
48:53Councilman Watson, appreciate that.
48:59City attorney report.
49:01I actually have two things this evening, and I know that's unusual because I rarely say anything.
49:06Uh number one, this is Mike Kurzwell's last meeting with the planning commission.
49:11Is moving on to Idaho, I believe.
49:15So I wish to thank him for all the benefit that he's been to me in the last year and a half, and perhaps we would take the opportunity to do that as well.
49:22Number two, the mayor has asked me to conduct some training because we have several new members of the planning commission.
49:28Rather than do that for an hour or two or three or four, what I'm proposing is that over the next several meetings between now and the end of the year that we maybe take five, 10, 15 minutes in your work session each night.
49:40I'd like to get an hour in before the end of the year if you're amenable to that.
49:44I have a couple of topics that I'd like to bring up, but I'm certainly willing to entertain topics or requests from you uh and squeeze those in.
49:51So I will be gone in the month of October, but if we could do a couple in September, one or two in November, depending on how that shakes out with Thanksgiving, and again one or so before Christmas, we could probably get an hour in before the end of the year.
50:03I think that'd be great.
50:06And if you've got topics, let me know.
50:09What was the requirement for how many hours we isn't there a requirement, how many hours before per year and certain time period?
50:16I think it's four per year.
50:20And you get uh one hour for attending X number of planning commission meetings.
50:26And so that takes it down to three per year.
50:28And of course, you did one hour of training for the new members before you could be sworn in and start taking action.
50:35So um you'll have a couple of years under your or a couple of hours rather under your belt by the end of the year.
50:40And if we do an hour here, that'll give you three out of the four.
50:44Yeah, I think that's correct.
50:56So we we've received quite a few applications.
50:59Uh we are still looking at uh the well, let's see, I'm gonna pull up a more updated map for you.
51:08I need to get the new parcels on this computer.
51:13So we received an application.
51:15Uh I believe I mentioned last time they're they're gonna start moving forward again on this property.
51:20This is a commercial piece.
51:22Um, so just a strip commercial with a drive-through.
51:26So we may see that next time.
51:28Um, maybe the end of September, depends on how quickly they get it to us.
51:33Uh we also have let's see.
51:39Um, we we've received the third plat for the park west development.
51:44Uh that's been going on for a few years in the old RC Willie property.
51:48So the uh phase three.
51:52Phase three is in the old parking lot area here.
51:55They're gonna be putting in some townhomes and single family uh properties as well.
52:06We also have a revision uh back to that that other property I was just at uh to the west.
52:12Um so we we've already approved a site plan a few months ago, and they are changing that to remove the drive-thru.
52:18Uh we did ARC meeting for that a couple weeks ago, and uh they're just currently working on getting us updated plans.
52:26Um we have received also a conditional use permit.
52:31Um this is for a uh where it where's 500 here.
52:37So this is for a uh business that's gonna be an expansion of an existing home business.
52:44Um believe I went too far.
52:51Uh okay, so it's this property here.
52:58Um, so we have a conditional use permit for the business and then also a site plan.
53:03And the site plan is pretty minimal, but uh does need to be approved according to our code.
53:08And then we have also received uh for the City's Glen property, that one that we were talking about, the residential rezone, the property to the west of that.
53:17We have a new phase that's come in.
53:20Um we also have uh another one that's we did a rezone for a few months ago, and that is down here.
53:30So we've we've received a plan for this property as well that we'll be looking at um at a concept level.
53:36They anticipate getting a preliminary in soon.
53:39So that's what we have right now.
53:40Yeah, I remember that.
53:41Uh I remember that meeting well.
53:44Yeah, that was an eventful one.
53:46All right, thank you, Royce.
53:48Um, commissioner reports.
53:50I'm going to back on.
53:53Um thank Mike for service.
53:58Um, he's definitely been a big help for me over the last few weeks.
54:04And uh you'll be missed very much.
54:07Um that was kind of a little kind of shot in the gut a little bit right there when that was announced.
54:13So you'll be missed.
54:18Any other commissioner report?
54:24All right, we will take a motion to adjourn.
54:35Thank you, everyone.