citizens and uh others interested parties we invite the direction council at this time to uh help and and guide this meeting to uh come to a good resolution and and guidance that we may uh make the uh our city uh flourish and and have the best uh use of its uh land and and resources we invite thy grateful for the money blessings and and for our freedom to guide this meeting uh assee to continue to help us to enjoy them and to uh always appreciate them especially this uh time of uh thanksgiving and and other holidays and we say these things in the name of thy son jesus christ amen amen thank you appreciate going out of order on that um next is adoption of the meeting agenda move to adopt as proposed okay second we have a motion and a second to adopt the meeting agenda for tonight first up is meeting minutes this is the regular meeting and work session meeting minutes for november fourth 2025 any corrections or concerns i move that we adopt the meeting notes from november fourth as written okay great and those meeting uh minutes are adopted thank you next is public comment this is an opportunity to address the planning commission regarding items that are not scheduled on the agenda tonight for public hearing please consider consider others and limit your comments to three minutes so if you have any comments regarding things that are not on the agenda please come up to the podium and state your name and Dave Mann and uh thank you for giving me a minute I have one unscheduled item so I'm gonna use public comment it's recently come to my attention as we are uh putting new members on the architectural review board that we don't have a current sitting planning commissioner on that board we like to have one sitting planning commissioner on the architectural review board so that they can bring back information that may have come up during that other review is there any who would like to be on that committee to be considered I will be considered yes all right and you need more let me know where we okay yeah all right that's all I have tonight thank you yeah thank you any other comments okay thank you we'll now move to item number four on the agenda the public hearing um considering the Regus owned request by leisure villas for rezone of property currently zoned A1 located at 2300 West Antelope Drive on approximately 4.27 acres yes sir I've got this one let me go to the map here this proposal is just south of Walmart and like you said we've received this application from leisure villas uh if you look right here the the general plan you know any time we're looking at a proposed uh rezone we want to consult with the general plan um what they're proposing is consistent with the commercial designation uh the existing zoning is R2 and A1 you can see all of the parcel lines uh this is left over there used to be uh how many I think about five or six houses that were on the property and and then you dot expanded the road and of course demolish the homes and then surplus this property to the new owner uh the proposed zoning is light commercial uh light commercial zone is kind of a new zone that was created the city the intent is to be compatible with uh single family because and um you know this this particular context does have a lot of single family homes around the south east and west edges of of the of the property uh it's also subject to the limitations of the town center overlay zone I don't think I have a map in here of that but um the the process for uh rezone of course is to have a public hearing here at planning commission and for you to for a recommendation to city council where they'll uh make the final decision on on uh zoning map amendments uh so yeah I'll turn it back to you Mr.

Seeing no public interest on this one, let's have the applicant come up if there's any questions from the commissioners.

Uh at this point, uh, you know, we've had a couple presentations on this lot.

Uh do you are we just looking to change the zoning, or do you have exactly yeah, we're just looking to change the zone right now.

We're we're thinking maybe two drive-throughs and two office buildings on it at this point, but nothing's kind of set in stone yet, but that's kind of what we're thinking that you know applies with or complies with town center overlay and with the light commercial zone.

So just just fitting, yeah.

Both of those you'll kind of have work within the light commercial and the yeah, and I mean the light commercial basically reinforces the town center overlay just with a couple modifications.

So that's okay.

Uh did notice that there's one or in previous applications, the the one property that was up against like the worst west there.

Is that part of your this acquisition, or is that the sliver of the same?

There was a sliver over there.

It was originally in a different well, it was combined it into one parcel originally, and then that parcel got split into two parcels, so it wasn't the original one, just under a different parcel number.

Okay, so is that so is the L C zone going all the way to 2450 West then?

All the way to the road, yes.

Okay, yeah, it was like a five-foot sliver that yeah, I just removed they broke off into a separate uh tax ID number.

So that's now all combined into this one of yeah, and that was already in there originally.

They just you don't had a mistake that they had to fix, and so they had to go through and break it up into two different parcels.

Okay.

Thank you.

Any other questions?

Discussion.

Thank you, sir.

Thanks.

Noah, just a question on the one small A1 zone on the proposed zoning.

Is that just gonna say A1?

Just the one small green.

Uh you're talking about this right here?

Correct.

Yeah, that is actually this home right here.

I believe purchased this property from UDOT prior to surplus, and now they have like mega backyard.

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you.

So that's just gonna be part of that home's property.

Right, yeah.

So that's not owned by the applicant and it's not part of the quest.

Great.

Okay, thank you.

Okay.

Recommendation or we'll take a vote or motion on this then.

I was expecting at least some public comment from it.

So I'm I've had my questions answered, and I it uh I think it's a good balance of what uh we want to see there commercial, but it's not gonna be just as a reference.

The light commercial has a height limitation of 20 25 feet.

And so it's gonna, you know, whatever buildings go there, are not gonna be some big commercial uh warehouse.

Um big tall 30-foot building, and yeah, there's a lot of thought put into when we when the light commercial zone was created.

Uh it's a one currently a one-story max height, 25 feet.

Uh, there's a list of permitted uses, and there were multiple uses that are allowed in the commercial zone that were crossed off the list to for this light commercial.

Um but yeah, you can still do um restaurants and office and kind of strip mall kind of stuff.

Um but yeah, some of those more intense things were taken off the list.

Uh and it can applicant did mention probably drive-throughs, so there's still fast food style that'll go as an option.

That's still in on the list.

And like the applicant said, we just don't know exactly.

So the process there, if they're successful in getting a rezone, then they would apply for a site plan that we would review, and they would have to have one of the uses that are listed in the permitted uses or conditional uses.

Yeah.

Okay, thank you.

And as a reminder, when you make your motion, this is a recommendation to the city council.

Okay.

Yeah, I can make a motion.

Uh I propose the commission recommend the city council approve the rezone application of Leisure Villas for approximately 4.27 acres located approximately 2300 west, 1700 south.

Do the light commercial zone.

We have a motion and a second.

All in favor?

I any opposed.

Okay.

That passes.

Thank you.

And thanks for listening to the citizens and not having a big real tall development in this area.

Appreciate it.

For the record, I wanted to recuse myself in the last vote as I missed the discussion.

Okay.

Thanks for and thanks for joining us.

Okay.

We'll go back up to the agenda.

Okay.

Next is uh are we on this one now?

Yes.

Yeah.

Okay.

Cities received a zone application from Chase Freebane or Free Bairn of Cole West North for approximately 12.83 acres located at approximately 963 South 2000 West.

Ray Clest includes one parcel.

Okay.

So we'll do a presentation.

Yes, sir.

Okay.

This one is the best way to describe it.

Across the street from Utah Onion, or kind of up by the high school.

Or the one with the big giant tree in the middle.

So the school district had purchased this to build an elementary school and they held it for a few years.

And then recently they decided that it's not it's not needed anymore with their future plans.

So they've they've uh there's selling this property to the uh applicant as part of their due diligence with the applicant, they've submitted this application.

So there's there's actually two applications that we'll see, but I'll kind of go over them both.

Um but as far as housekeeping goes, they are separate, two separate applications.

So the first one is uh the general plan uh currently a civic because of the school.

Uh but now that it's not a school, it they're proposing to go low density, which is which matches what's around it to the north, south, and east.

Uh to the west, of course.

Um you have some commercial on the general plan because they're frontage on um 2000 West.

Uh then if you look at the zoning, um, currently is A1, and their proposed zoning would be R3, which is consistent with what is south of there.

The R so the R3 zone is a single family zone.

Uh doesn't allow townhomes or apartments or anything, so just single family and the minimum lot size is an 8,000 square foot lot.

Uh the R2 um is very similar to the R3, but the difference is that the R2 allows a minimum lot size of a 10,000 square foot lot.

So really if you drive through the two neighborhoods, you probably won't necessarily notice the the zone change.

R3 sometimes has more two-story homes and than ramblers.

Might be the only difference.

Uh so yeah, that's that's their proposal.

There is uh there is uh a draft development agreement that's included here because there's some specific things to the property that that both parties wanted to cover.

Um is there's a big tree in the middle, and uh we felt that that was important to try to preserve if possible, and luckily the developer has agreed to that.

Uh the other part is the the city has plans to build a future fire station, and we anticipate that there'll be a need to uh acquire a little bit more land to accommodate the future fire station, and and they've agreed to work with us on that as well.

Those are kind of the two the two main points.

I will note that there is an item in a little bit of of uh not flux, but uh that they've and this is something that city asked them to look at is there's a property right here that uh would have frontage on a future road that they would build, and uh they've been working with that that property owner, so they're proposing to include this little little nub.

It doesn't necessarily change a lot of about the application, but they're proposing to increase the size of this boundary to what's already being farmed.

If you look at the the aerial photograph, the screen part is kind of what they're proposing to add to the R3 zone.

These these uh landowners are in conversation with them about selling the back part to them.

If that happens, do they have to come to another meeting and get that approved then?

You know, I I think that it's it's close enough.

We're not through with the process yet.

So by the time they go to city council, it'll we'll have an updated map.

This is just kind of something that's developed over the holiday week last weekend or last week.

Um so it's it's up to you how you want to treat that.

But I I think that it's largely the same application, same zone request, and it's all part of the same farm field.

So uh yeah, so technically the property, the front.

How do you know how that would break it up size-wise if they sell that back half?

Uh the the remaining lot, uh just like uh off the cuff measurement.

Looks like there's about a half of an acre, or probably close to a half acre left, but good size probably.

Yeah, there's a single family home on it, and they have a big backyard and a garden and all that.

So all of that would they would keep that, and then just the part that they're not even using necessarily right now, would go towards the rest of the farmed area.

Um, but I think that that largely covers the majority of of what the development agreement would include.

Where would the future fire station be?

Is that so uh recently city council agenda had uh a land sell for this parcel right here?

It's it's the Gailey property is what we're calling it, and so City has agreed to purchase this, and so it would go where that house is.

And then we think that with the depth that we would need, we need about another 0.8 or so.

Let's call it an acre off this little back edge to accommodate a future fire station, and that would be a uh a future fire station, the the third fire station for the city, which should do us uh should carry us through build out.

Right.

Yeah, we're yep, I'll give you a public comment in just a moment.

Any other questions?

Sure, we'll think it's the yeah.

So uh similar to the last one.

Uh of course the the uh applicant is in the audience available for questioning.

If you have more questions directed to staff, we're ready as well.

And then of course, a reminder that this is a public hearing.

So like I said, there's there's two applications.

The first one's the rezone, and then it's the general plan.

When we get it on the city council agenda, we'll want to make sure it's the general plan and then the rezone to tech since technically the rezone has to comply with the general plan.

Okay.

So this is a public hearing.

Um, if there is any public input on this specific item, you're welcome to come up and limit your please state your name and limit your comments to three minutes.

I'm Wayne Taylor.

Uh my backyard borders that wonderful property that's been a weed field forever.

Um, my only comment is uh I I do have some concerns with a fire station being there because I do value my sleep.

And I just is it is there any uh mitigations that they would be able to do to keep you know the sirens from waking everybody up every night.

I don't know, just just to thought if there's anything to do in that space, and then is we're just talking about that section, right?

We're gonna talk about the other one after the fire station.

We have the fire station, which is the front by 2000, but I also want to address some concerns.

We're talking about that one.

So do that first.

Go ahead.

Okay, that's all I have was no, it's with this.

So it is with it.

Okay.

So if you pull that map back up, uh that'd be appreciative.

Um this big one in yellow as well.

Yes, yeah.

So that's where a lot of our backyards are in.

Uh, there's some interesting geometry there.

There's four roads that connect to that property.

So our coal west friends over here have got to figure out how to make that subdivision work with that.

But I'm curious if the plans that they're thinking of would fit in an R2 zoning, right?

We're saying R3.

That just gives a lot of latitude that may be unnecessary.

And most of us are in favor of lower density housing versus higher.

And so I'm just curious if the plans that they have.

I I like to see options.

I don't like to see just here, this is what we're gonna do.

Well, what would this look like if it were zoned R2 versus R3?

And if if it doesn't make a difference, let's leave it R2 because then that keeps it restricted.

Because ultimately, once we rezone it, yeah, this is great and nice, but they can change their mind and say we want to do it different and and change it.

So that's all I'm saying.

I'd I would like us as a city to lean towards lower density versus higher.

So what would it look like?

And maybe that's a question we can ask the the developers.

What would this look like if we were R2?

Does it not work?

No, I would like to see that.

That's okay.

Okay.

Thank you.

West.

My question goes along with Wayne, and I'm glad you clarified that about the firehouse.

Me personally, the firehouse, I think is adding value to our property.

That's what I think.

The access on uh which way is north on this map that I'm looking at here?

The top of the page.

Top of the page, got it.

Okay, 1875 west.

I see it.

Are we going to be widening the existing road going to Banberry?

Are you talking parkway?

Or Heritage Parkway, pardon me.

Excuse me.

Thanks, Wayne.

Got my back again.

All my friends back here.

They got my back.

They do.

So are we going to be widening that road?

There's three concerns that I have right off the bat.

One, we're getting ready to replace these meters, these irrigation meters.

And if we widen the road, this is a bunch of money that's been wasted.

And they would have to be moved back to do that.

Our taxpayers need to be watched over on this matter.

The other item is uh if the roads widened, then I have no problem with it, other than I was going to change my landscaping and the park strip along there and make it more water friendly.

Uh the third thing.

Uh that street when we get one car parking on it, access becomes really limited and hard.

Are we gonna have to make it a non-parking or resident only time?

These are the questions I have.

And then concerning the backyards facing the existing one-story houses.

Are we gonna be allowing two-story houses in there with windows staring straight down into those existing backyards?

Okay, thanks.

Thank you.

Any other comments?

I just had one clarification.

I'm not opposed to the fire station.

I was asking if there's a way to mitigate the sound, right?

Great to have a fire station there.

Nice to have it close by.

Um, is there a way we can mitigate the sound?

I don't know if that means more property to build a wall, what that looks like, but that's the concern.

We'll see if we can get an answer for you.

Yeah, thank you.

Okay.

So I need to say so to the developer that I learned that.

Thank you for saving that tree.

You didn't have to do that, but you did.

That says something to me as a property owner.

Thank you.

Appreciate that.

Okay.

So any other further comment before I close the public meeting.

Did you do you want to come up and I just take a look at it again?

How it was made out laid out.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Seeing no further comment, we'll close the public hearing.

Okay.

Andrew Lynn.

So I live right next door to Dean right there.

So we're on that 1875 West.

And my uh I guess comment in question is uh kind of along the lines of his.

That's that street is like 10 feet narrower than those ones that come in from the south.

I believe the one that comes in from the east is the same size.

It's roughly 29 from like curb to curb.

And since I live right there, I don't particularly want the street in front of my house to be wider.

But um I'm just hoping there's not a bunch of dump trucks and things coming down this teeny little narrow street during however long it takes to construct this.

And I don't know if there's any uh kind of provisions along with stormwater planning or things like that of of uh preferred routes for contractors to go through during the construction phase.

That's a I guess that's my biggest concern.

Is safety of kids that are playing in that area right there.

Yeah, thank you.

We'll we'll pass that on for the developer.

Okay.

Now thank you all for your comments and we'll close the public hearing.

Um and then we'll have we'll now hear from the pro um applicant.

I'm Taylor Anderson with Cole West.

Um Noah did a great job uh presenting it all.

Um and I'm happy to answer any of your questions or what was addressed in the public hearing.

Okay.

So thank you.

We'll start off with um the first one with the sound mitigation.

You know, and we may have to hear from the fire group too, but uh and other developments and things, what do you do when you've got a fire station near you?

You are you building a wall on the edge of your property or um yeah, that's a a good question um that I haven't thought of up to this point.

Um I would say uh there probably wouldn't be a sound wall.

Um, but I mean I think we just have to work with the fire department to figure out what the best solution would be.

Okay.

Yeah, so I don't know if I have an answer at this time.

Okay.

And as a reminder for you who have made comments too, we'll be presenting this, you know, further to the city council, and some of these questions will get addressed even more so for you.

Okay.

The next one was the other question that came up was R2 versus R three.

Yeah.

Yeah, we um you know, working, you know, the economics of this project.

Uh we felt that the especially with the R3 being just to the south.

Um and I I think Noah mentioned before if you're driving through R2 and R3, there's you really, I mean, unless you're really looking for it, I don't think you can quite tell a difference.

Um, and so you know, with the open space that we're leaving, you know, for the tree, want to make sure we preserve that if possible.

Um, we felt that the R3 zone made more sense.

Okay.

Yeah.

And then this may be for the city, but just um the road widening.

Um, we may have to work with our traffic engineers and others on that.

Yeah.

Yep.

Okay.

And we'll work with them too on water meter installation so that we do everything correctly.

Don't want to add uh added expense.

Right.

Yeah.

And then parking.

What have you what's your experience with parking along?

Like along the streets.

Um yeah, it's a good question.

Um the concern is that there'd just be too much parking.

I mean, we we felt like I mean these lots are 8,000 square feet.

Um, and so you know, that puts it like 4,000 to 5,000 square foot homes.

We feel that there's probably enough parking, especially with the driveway and yeah.

Yeah.

And then lastly, just this mostly for you as a developer is just um during construction.

Um, you know, I know that we we're expanding lots of lots of development with but there was some concern raised about um noise and um dump trucks, you know, during the um so I think you guys do your best to control the time of day that they're doing these things.

Yep and safety for children and stuff.

Yeah.

So do you have any comment on that?

Or yeah, we I mean, we feel that the the you know, the people that we hire to do can you know do our construction work and our contractors that they're super aware of that, especially being surrounded by three sides of you know residential homes.

Want to make sure that they're not working late and and that they're super respectful to the neighborhood.

So we we would yeah, make sure of that, especially in like the pre-con meeting and and yeah, we would make sure that's addressed.

Right.

And then any other comments or questions from the council or commissioners.

I just want to echo uh thank you full that you're saving the tree.

I I'm still upset that they tore the one down uh up by the high school.

Yeah.

Uh we are getting an arborist, you know, to look at it to make sure that you know, I mean, we're putting that in the development agreement, but we don't want to make we want to make sure that the health of the tree isn't you know at the end of its life, and then we're responsible to keep it right.

We want to make sure that it's healthy and you know us preserving it in the open space just makes sense.

Okay.

So that parcel is it, you've got a labeled as parcel E.

Yeah, yep.

That open space, or is that yeah, it would just be that'd be where the tree is, and that'd be uh the storm detention um as well.

And so yeah, we we're still kind of figuring out what we could do there, but it would just be open space for the crew.

Preserve the roots and everything is supposed to be.

Yeah, I would make sure that you know we'd have everything far far enough away from the tree to not impact it.

Okay, well, and it's not going to some property owner uh incorporated into a a lot that you would sell off that would be part of a house.

It's actually would be still open space.

Correct.

Yeah, that's good.

Mr.

Chair.

Yes.

Uh just one other question that was asked uh about two-story homes.

If we could address that as well.

Yeah, the two-story homes, you know, their backyards, big looking down into their yards from adjacent property.

Yeah.

Um, you know, I think it more so is dependent on the market of what I mean.

We don't know exactly what the dimensions of these, you know, projects are gonna look like and what the exact elevations and everything for the individual houses.

So I think we can't really answer that question at this time.

I mean, we we obviously want to be aware of the neighbors and make sure that we're not having windows high so they can see in to their neighbors.

So we'll we would we'll figure that out, but I don't know if we know that answer at this point.

Okay, thank you.

We'll make sure that's passed on too if this moves forward.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thanks.

Okay, any other questions?

Uh no questions, but maybe uh comment just on you know, comparison of the R2 to the R3, uh as was mentioned, an R3, the lots can go down, yeah, have a minimum of 8,000 versus an R3, which has a minimum of 10,000.

Um looking at this, there are actually still there are several lots that are above 10,000 that are already meeting that.

There's only it's not the whole thing that's going down to 8,000.

You have several that are into the 10s and 12s, um that are in the 90s 9600, I see 9700.

I mean, there's one that's three square feet short of hitting the R3.

Is that I think it's a good, it's done a good job of fitting, you know the area and that you know that was requested of what would an R3 look like.

I don't it might just be a changing of the lot lines a little bit, and that uh I don't think that you'd have a change in the number of homes.

If anything, it would be one less home in the entire 13 acres.

Uh and so even though it is a higher density, the an R going to an uh an R2 versus an R3 is not the the look of the homes are gonna be the same and that the lot sizes are gonna be very similar.

And I don't I don't think we're trying to smash extra V uh homes in here going to an R3.

Your your couple hundred square feet difference.

Okay, thank you.

Okay.

Mr.

Chair, I've got the the dimensions that are allowed in the R3 if that helps with the conversation.

I don't want to distract, but but yeah, so yeah, the the lot width and the minimum lot size are the main difference.

So you have 8,000 square feet and an 80-foot lot width, front yard setback is 25 feet and rear yard is 20 feet.

So uh whatever goes there will have at least 20 feet between the house and the back fence.

And then if you go uh uh look at the R2, you've got uh 10,000 and then an extra five feet.

Then the front is the same, and then the rear yard has an extra five feet.

Okay.

That's great to know.

Thank you.

Great.

Thank you for my gate.

Excuse me, I have a comment as well.

On that, uh this is for the developer on that parcel with the tree that's intended to be green space.

Uh first of all, you said you were going to contact an arborist to ascertain the health of the tree and whether it would stand or not.

And that will remain as green space even if the tree were to come down.

Is that accurate?

Are there plans for the the quality of that green space?

Is it just gonna be a drainage basin?

Is it gonna be a park?

Is it gonna be kind of a wild land walking area?

Um what kind of plans do you have?

Sure.

Yeah, we would.

I mean, we'd look at our different options, could you know, have some sort of potentially an amenity.

Um, but yeah, we haven't really delved super deep into that yet.

My suggestion, this would be I don't feel like just a blank retention basin with no trees, just uh just a grassy hole in the ground is really doing anything to meet the city's requirement of a certain number of acreage of parks citizen.

Uh Royce, what's the exact number on that?

Do you have that off the top of your head?

I know there's a ratio, but anyhow, it it seems sneaky and disingenuous to have green space just for its own sake and not have it be useful.

Yeah.

But if we're trying to preserve it for a tree, then that indicates we want a certain quality.

And maybe if the tree did have to come down, maybe there'd be a suggestion for a certain number of trees to replace it.

Yeah.

Another thought would be uh perhaps uh for the city to consider having their own selected arborist that is a third party and not selected by the developer that might potentially have a bias there.

Yeah.

Yeah, I thought I think that was the plan is to we were gonna have our arborists look at it and then make sure that work with Noah to make sure that it's you know on bias and they could have their own go back at it.

And and I'm not accusing anybody of anything, but it just kind of makes me think of a developer getting his own building planner kind of a thing.

Right.

Yeah, I think that's totally fair.

Okay.

So yeah.

Thank you.

We appreciate you coming up and verifying or clarifying that for us.

Okay.

And a motion.

Of course, if the tree stays, then that's obviously there's no uh you know, if it's if it's healthy, then obviously it wasn't biased.

Yeah, and it's a nice tree.

Best we can to preserve that is appreciated.

Okay, we'll take a motion.

Did uh Mayor, did you have a comment?

I you were raising your hand.

Yeah, it's a question come up.

Because this property was school uh district owned first.

Um we would give them the chance to city to purchase it if it was for a city use, but we don't have a city use in that area.

So uh we just negotiated on the fire property.

But when that happened, we did meet with the school district and say whoever you sell it to, we meet with um.

So we did meet with the person that got the awarded bid.

And uh the difference between an R3, and I'm expressing this just because if it wasn't said, but I think it helps explain the difference between an R3 and an R2 really allows them to preserve the tree without losing the extra density.

So while that small five foot uh density, they're not giving extra density here, they're getting the ability to preserve a breed space by getting R3 versus R2.

Okay, whether you like it or not, that just it was seemed like a reasonable compromise.

You've got so many people feel passionately about this tree that we didn't want to lose it either.

We love trees in here in the city.

I would also just say one thing about the fire station, because I I understand there's some concern.

The fire station, we don't see uh a need for that fire station probably 10 years into the future, you just have to get land when you can get land.

So it may not even be needed at all.

We you know, we don't build fire stations just because right now we don't have the need.

It depends on the build out of the city.

So it may not be, we may have this extra parcel, but right now we just want to protect that.

Thank you for that comment.

Mr.

Chair, can I add to that too about the fire station?

Since it's so far out in the future, you know, it hasn't been designed, but the the question was asked: can there be mitigating things?

The answer is yes, absolutely.

There's fencing, there's landscaping, and when the city, when it comes time for the city to actually build the fire station, we'll address those concerns.

And it by ordinance, we do have a buffer requirement when you have different land uses next to each other.

And and so we would follow that buffer ordinance for the fencing and and landscaping requirements.

Thank you.

And I agree with the citizen who came up and said, you know, I think that was Andrew.

Um not against a fire station that adds value to our neighborhoods and security.

Certainly lowers your insurance.

Yeah, response times to emergency situations for sure.

So thank you.

Okay.

Now we'll entertain a motion.

Do you want to bring that up on screen form?

And reminder, this is there's actually two applications here.

So if you want to do separate, we need to do the general plan first.

Well, we're not technically approving it, so I think it's okay the way it's ordered in the agenda, but the wording to combine them as combined recommendations.

I would do two separate motions for two separate agenda items.

That's a little tedious, but I think that's probably the right way to do it.

Uh well, I from the comments, and I I valued the comments, and I think that we've addressed a lot of them and that uh moving forward on this.

Uh I would I would be in favor of that, and I would move um want to make that.

I'm trying to pull from this.

Do I need to read this whole summary or where did you have I didn't put together motion language, but generally speaking, you you uh recommend a city council approve or deny and the address through the existing zoning to request the zoning.

So I would recommend that we uh recommend or we a move to recommend that we uh how do I say I I rely on that wording too much.

So um move that we recommend to the city council that they uh approve the rezone of 963 south 2000 west.

Uh per uh the application from Chase Rebain uh for this 12.83 acres uh uh known as let's see one to May one to yeah to R three is what the application is.

Okay.

Second, we have a motion on a second.

All in favor to recommend this to the city council.

I thank you.

And then we go to the second part of this to the general map plan amendment.

Uh so I can just jump in again.

There uh propose that we uh recommend to the city council the general plan amendment of 963 West 2000 uh or 963 wet uh south 2000 west, uh uh to change from um a one or three a one to R3.

Uh from that is certainly civic that would be to R3 to change the general plan to low density residential.

Uh thank you to low density residential things.

There's a good good reference.

A second.

Okay, we have a motion and a second.

All in favor.

I thank you.

That pass okay.

Okay, this is agenda item number seven, and thank you all for being here who have participated so far.

And this is to review the following information regarding um the address of 2052 West, 1700 South, um, to a general commercial.

All right.

Okay, so I think I don't know if the agenda was different.

So this is gonna be the the Syracuse Retail Subdivision Second Amendment.

Uh so this is gonna be um it's just a uh change to the property lines in this uh this subdivision.

So currently you see these dotted lines that doesn't uh denote any sort of property line.

The current property lines of this this exterior line here, they're just gonna condominize it, which means that they basically take one unit within the existing building and single it off.

Uh condominiumized could be one or more units in this case, they're just doing the one so they can sell just that one unit individually.

So creates a separate lot.

Um, whereas this previous lot here will remain existing, it'll just have this essentially hole in it.

There'll be this other lot.

So um what's been proposed here meets all the requirements of the city code, all staff comments have been addressed.

So we would recommend approval.

Questions?

So that's already an existing building, like a standalone shop building.

Does that nail place?

Yeah, so if you know uh this is like the clock tower out there on the corner of 2000 in Antelope, it'd be like right here.

So there's uh I want to say an ATT store, like a Papa Murphy's uh couple of other yeah.

So we've we've got a few businesses in here.

The business that's gonna be operating or is currently operating here, just wants to purchase this one and then they're gonna move forward with their business.

Yeah, and with the condom condominimizing uh is there I imagine there's an agreement with there, and they they address parking and stalls and kind of HOA long long-term, you know, access, all in the would be currently in place.

I mean, with with anything like this that's currently constructed, uh when they come in to get a business license, if it's a significant departure from what's currently in there, we'll always double check parking and make sure everything fits.

Um I've never encountered something where they didn't have adequate parking.

Uh, but a lot of times there is a lot uh a fair amount of like, oh, that's a dentist's office, and this operates in the evening, so we're trading and and that kind of thing.

So but I mean, if they didn't have the parking, they just they'd be out of luck in terms of a business license.

Trader Joe's is coming into that one, right?

Right.

It's small enough, yeah.

Okay.

So do we know what's planned for that lot then?

Uh I know the applicant can speak more to it.

Um, but to my understanding, it's a it's physical therapy.

I'm on the speaker to it.

Just talking microphone set on these.

Um so I I um actually, so I'm the applicant.

I've submitted this application on behalf of the owner.

I am the uh one of the business owners.

I own a physical therapy clinic uh in that that strip mall, and we are currently purchasing the building.

Um, but the we we are it's being it is being separated into the one unit, um, and then the six units combined or will stay as they are existing.

Uh all of the units are currently occupied, and nothing will change as far as what is going on within the businesses, it's just being separated for ease of sale.

Um, so that's kind of all that's happening there.

There's there's not going to be any change in the current business structure as it is uh currently.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Any other questions?

Sweet.

Appreciate you.

Any questions from the commissioners?

No.

Is this a public hearing?

Are we just it is, yes.

Public hearing, so we'll open this up for public comment.

We don't have anybody online right now.

That was my next question.

Anyone online?

Seeing that there's no one online and no public comment this time, we'll close the public hearing.

And now any other further questions or a motion.

Not really changing the use, and it's yeah, not working well.

So I don't see any.

I have no bonds.

Yeah, I can make a motion.

Uh I move the planning commission approved the request to Jordan Brady for a plat amendment located at 2052 West, 1700 south on 0.887 acres in the GC zone.

Okay.

I second.

We have a motion and a second.

All in favor.

I thank you.

That passes.

Now we're on to number eight, uh, final plat.

This is a request by Ivory Holmes.

And this is phase six of the legacy park.

So this one is uh just wrapping things up.

Uh legacy park estates.

We did we just did phases five and six, and there was kind of a unique situation there with a couple of lots that were sort of standalone, and this this continues that road down to the south.

So uh the north in this case is gonna be a little left.

So um again, just more standard single family stuff out there.

Uh, but this completes their uh preliminary plat area.

So everything to the east of this is gonna be Syracuse City, and then the south is uh gonna be just uh the single family there to the south.

So um what's been proposed here is uh it's really just more the same.

So again, that that phase four, the those two kind of standalone lots in that phase, and uh that that created this road here that there's completing.

So this will stub into the Syracuse City parcel.

Uh, but this road is short enough, it doesn't require fire turnaround or anything.

So the stub as shown meets all the requirements of the code, and then it's really up to the city in terms of what we want to do here.

Uh, there is a road potentially uh on this side that I don't know, may not connect.

There was a lot of discussion with preliminary plat, no guarantees either way, I guess.

But uh the way it's laid out now.

Um we have parkland here, but this is just gonna remain farmland for the foreseeable future.

So um, all of what's been proposed here meets the requirements of the code, and all the staff comments have been addressed, so we recommend approval.

Thank you.

And this is the I think the final phase of the subdivision, correct?

Correct.

I just said a curiosity, or is that 401 and 402?

Do the which way do they front?

Do they front on to 1170 or do they front onto the north?

So I I I put addressing for both sides when I put it together.

I guess it's really up to them.

So if they want to go, I I just I'm not sure if they receive building permits on those off the top of my head, but I could look it up if you're if you're interested.

Curious if they were gonna match the rest of the street or not, but yeah, my guess is uh this road here because it's probably less busy, but yeah, really up to the developer.

Okay, thank you.

Okay, and this is um the final motion for this final plat.

So if we'll take a motion on this one, can I make a quick comment?

Uh this is a little bit tangential, but that legacy park is there's a little field kind of buffering between the two, right?

Uh is there any plan by the city to maybe expand Legacy Park or absorb some of that land to improve that green space.

Um there's a nice pond there, but there's not any playground.

There's not it's got a nice walking path, but it's pretty small.

It'd be a great asset if there was an opportunity to kind of expand on that before we just built out with housing.

For sure.

Yeah, if you look at our transportation master plan, it's all that area is all slated for park expansion.

Okay.

I know uh a long time ago the city had some concept plans drawn up, and they ended up building just phase one of a second phase.

And uh it's been so long, I I doubt that those plans will be built, you know, as originally imagined.

But but yeah, it's it's definitely on the city's uh radar.

I don't know when that would be improved, but with with all of this development, every house pays in towards our impact park impact fee fund.

And so, in theory, that would give us some funds to develop the park eventually.

So there is a parcel that is owned by the city adjacent to the park already.

That's inside.

Yeah, so they're uh yeah, that's about what Royce is pointing out right there.

Okay, yeah, that was my question.

I I walked my dog over there, and I just think it'd be a shame if that just uh limited that park when there's so much potential.

So thank you.

That yeah, if you can see there's that road stub that comes straight down, and then it's just the width of one lot, right?

And then everything east of that is all city-owned park future parkland.

Right, thank you.

Yeah, no, no for the questions.

Okay, did we do public comment on this already?

This one's just uh final approval.

Correct.

Yep.

So this is just uh a motion to approve the final plot.

Okay, I'll make a motion.

Okay, go ahead.

I move the planning commission to approve the request of ivory homes for approval of a final plot for phase six of the legacy park estate subdivision at 1230 west, 2425 south on 4.42 acres in the R2 zone.

Second, okay.

We have a motion and a second.

All in favor of approving this plat request.

I thank you.

That passes unanimously.

Okay, then we're down to item number.

That was eight.

We're on to number nine adjourn.

Move to adjourn.

Pardon.

Got a working session, right?

Yep, and then we'll adjourn.

That everybody in favor of adjourning.

I thank you.

Now we'll move into the work session department of business city council liaison report.

I did have two announcements.

Well, but somebody already said something about the fire station land.

I've just been waiting to tell you guys about that.

Somebody's under um the only other thing I wanted to mention is that we did as a as a city council, and we stole your meeting night on November 18th.

We did certify the election results.

And so we have two new council members starting in January.

And uh you don't get a different mayor, but the mayor was also certified as as the mayor.

So just wanted to let you guys know.

So I'm disappointed about that.

No, very happy with that.

We still have you.

Yes, I I was not, I was not one of the seats up for re-election.

So the new council members are Abraham Pollard and Andrea Brown, and the outgoing council members are Jordan Savage and uh Jennifer Carver.

Carver.

Oh my gosh, mind blanking.

Jennifer Carver.

So those are the two outgoing.

So that's all I had for you guys.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We do appreciate you being here.

Yeah.

Thank you.

We'll count each council member as an announcement.

So then you can get sitting in too.

And update on city attorney or he's uh unable to attend tonight, so and no report from the city attorney then.

No.

Okay.

And discussion items, upcoming agenda items.

Yes, we have a whole bunch that's going on.

Um we've had quite a few new applications, but for the December 16th meeting, which uh maybe um before getting into the nitty-gritty on that.

So uh obviously December is very busy.

Uh for those who are here currently, do you know if all of you will be available on the 16th?

We want to make sure that we have enough for a quorum.

Yes, I'll be there.

Yes.

We will have the quorum.

All right, perfect.

Okay, so we do have a lot going on.

Um the uh the let them be kids preschool.

Uh they've they've decided to move forward.

Um, and they're on 500 south or 500 west, um, just north of Gentile down there.

Um they're uh they're gonna do a site plan and conditional use permit.

Um, and then we have the Lakeside Flat subdivision, which is just south of Westlake Landing subdivision, it's just right in here, the residential component.

Looking at bringing that forward.

Um we also have the site plan for 7-Eleven, which purchased the Jags property up here.

Uh it looks like that one's going to go through there on the 16th as well.

Uh let's see, we also have received applications for um back down here on this corner.

We have uh uh business called Pickleball Kingdom, it's like a large indoor pickleball uh arena type thing, and then we have uh something called SimCity, which is gonna be just uh various simulators, and so they're looking at developing this out as kind of a sports park, uh commercial sports park type thing.

I did see a post on that, and they were listening every single business today.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

They've been working hard on it, and I know they they're really pushing to get those approved.

So hopefully we'll see if we can get that on the 16th.

If not, it'll it'll be January.

Um is that corner gas station officially?

Yeah, we we have some interest from a gas station here, um, and then like a tire shop potentially, but we haven't received applications on those, so okay.

It's kind of just speculative at the moment.

Um then we also have uh let's see, we have an application for a commercial subdivision west of the golf course here, the one that we did the rezone on recently.

Um they're gonna move forward.

It's the same folks that are doing this subdivision, so kind of a similar setup.

And then uh we also have a request for an indoor storage zone in this area.

Uh we'll be looking at a rezone application there for that one.

And then uh you said storage, yeah.

Indoor climate controlled storage, and it's fairly small, it's more of a personal use, is what the applicants told us.

But again, we'll we'll I guess discuss that more when it comes forward.

Um we also have a revised site plan application for the take five oil that we approved a couple months ago.

Um, they just want to change the building size, uh and it's enough of a change that it does need to come back to planning commission.

Is that where you're pointing right now?

Is that where that will be?

Yep, just right here, just west of the uh 7-Eleven property.

Um, and then we also let's see, we do have a couple of variants applications.

We don't need to worry about those.

Um that make sure I didn't miss anything here.

Yeah, that is currently uh it's currently it's okay.

And we haven't heard anything yet up front each property in front of Costco yet.

Nope.

Nope.

Uh I'd imagine folks are gonna want to wait until everything's completed.

Costco's gone up pretty quickly.

Uh, for those of you that have been by there, but yeah, we do have a few commercial pads here that uh once all these improvements are completed, I'm sure those will build out fairly quickly.

And do we know when they're going to work on the roundabout right there by the fire department?

Soon as possible.

Very soon.

I didn't know the SAA's got a room school installed.

They'll probably start maybe the first day of school in the fall.

Yeah.

Good enough, Lynn.

Thanks.

Anything else?

That is all.

Okay.

Okay.

And then that's upcoming upcommissioner reports.

Anything?

And thank you for joining the architect board.

We appreciate that.

And um motion to adjourn.

Yeah, move to adjourn.

Okay.

All in favor?

I okay.

Thank you.

Yeah.

And then we'll see.

Yeah.

Well, the other best move, right?

Or so we can be added more.

You made a good response.

That's cool.

Let's look at that log.

Yeah.