0:04I'd like to call to order the city council meeting of August 26, 2025.
0:08Clerk, will you please call the roll?
0:11Councilmember Bushnell?
0:13Deputy Mayor Daniels.
0:19Councilmember Sadalgay, absent.
0:22Councilmember Walker?
0:25Please join me in listening to the land acknowledgement and flag salute led by Councilmember Bushnell, followed by a moment of silence.
0:32We gratefully honor and acknowledge that we rest on the traditional lands of the Puala people where they make their home and speak the Lashutsi language.
0:39Please stand for the flag salute and remain standing for a moment of silence.
1:35Seeing none, we'll move on to the consent agenda.
1:39I move to adopt the consent agenda, includes including resolutions number four one seven four one through four one seven four five.
1:47All right, are there any questions, comments, or corrections?
1:49Seeing none, all those in favor of adopting the consent agenda, please signify by saying aye.
1:56The consent agenda is declared adopted.
1:58Moving on to proclamations, recognitions, and presentations.
2:09Or at least it's definitely in the top ten.
2:12Tonight, um, we have the honor um of recognizing Annabelle Stevens, who is an incoming third grader at Downing Elementary School, and she has she has been named our honorary chief of the day.
2:28So Annabelle, would you come?
2:30Would you come with the chief and come stand at the podium right here for me?
2:35Do we have a step stool for her?
2:50Annabelle, I'm gonna read this for you, okay?
2:55Whereas the City of Tacoma is proud to celebrate and uplift the unique talents, perspectives, and achievements of all members of our community.
3:04And whereas Annabelle Stevens, an incoming third grader at Downey Elementary School, is an inspiring young student who approaches life with courage, curiosity, and joy.
3:17And whereas Annabelle, who happens to have Down syndrome, is a shining example of determination and kindness and reminds us daily of the importance of inclusion, empathy, and celebrating our differences.
3:32And whereas on August 28th, 2025, Annabelle will have the honor of serving as chief for a day, representing the spirit of service and the leadership that this program embodies.
3:45And whereas the city recognizes the positive example Annabelle sets for her classmates, her neighborhood, and the community as a whole, through her bright spirit, resilience, and compassion.
3:59Now, therefore, I, Victoria R.
4:01Woodards, mayor of the City of Tacoma, on behalf of the City Council and the over 220,000 residents of Tacoma, do hereby do hereby recognize Annabelle Stevens as we encourage all residents to join us in commemorating her accomplishments, her leadership, and her role as chief for a day, and congratulating her on this well-deserved honor.
4:27Please join me in a round of applause for Annabelle.
4:50All right, Annabelle.
4:54Are you gonna say a few words?
4:56Do you want to say a few words?
4:58Right here, talk right in the mic.
5:00You could speak right on the mic.
5:06Did you want to say something?
5:12Um thank you, Annabelle.
5:32Now, before Annabel comes forward, Annabelle, I think there are some other special people who were here with you today, right?
5:39Are your mom and dad here?
5:42You want to ask your mom and dad to come up and stand with you?
5:46Call them up, Annabel.
5:49Tell them, come on up.
5:57Now get your mom too, Annabel.
6:08Annabelle, we want to thank your mom and dad for for bringing you here today.
6:14We want to thank your mom and dad for being really good parents.
6:17Do you have really good parents, Annabelle?
6:19Do they take really good care of you?
6:29So they take really good care of you.
6:37She's thinking about it.
6:39She's thinking about it.
6:41Well, Annabelle, we're we really want to thank your parents for bringing you here and helping, um, helping you get to the police department so you could be the chief for a day.
6:51Do you want to give them a big hug and tell them thank you?
7:03All right, Miss Annabelle, would you like to come up here and see me again so we can present you with your proclamation and take a picture?
7:10Sure, come on up with the chief.
7:12Chief, come with her.
7:13Parents, you can come with her too if you want.
7:17Do you want our agency members?
7:19Yeah, oh yeah, all of you.
7:22Every police officer who's here this evening, come on up here with Annabelle.
7:30So, Annabelle, you know what?
7:32You get to have this one, and you get to keep it.
7:35You will can you shake my hand again?
7:37I know you already gave me a hug.
7:40So, mom and dad come up and chief, come up and stand with her.
7:44The chief and the chief.
7:46Okay, that's a cute thing.
8:00Shelby, she can take the picture and you could be in it.
8:06All right, everybody.
8:08Shelby thought that was a request.
8:13Now get in here, Shelby.
8:17Oh, you see yourself.
8:20He's not tall enough?
8:23All right, everybody.
8:36Thank you, Annabelle.
8:47Oh, Chief, I'm sorry.
8:52Chief Patty, let me give you one as well.
9:16I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.
9:19I think that's enough for today.
9:23All right, all right.
9:24What what an honor to be able to recognize a young student from Tacoma.
9:31Um with just as much excitement as Annabelle.
9:36What an incredible young person.
9:38Chief, thank you so much for.
9:40I I know this is not a new program, so to speak.
9:42It could be new for Tacoma.
9:44But um, thank you so much for embracing this and giving allowing us to have a moment like this at this meeting, especially after a really long day to celebrate.
9:53Such a bright young person as Annabelle.
10:01On tonight's agenda, there are two opportunities for people to comment.
10:04Under public comment, you can speak about motions, resolutions, and ordinances on tonight's agenda.
10:12Under community forum, which is held at the end of this meeting, you can speak about items over which the city council has jurisdiction.
10:19These forms are intended to give speakers the opportunity to share their viewpoints and feedback with the city council to aid in our decision making, and is not meant to be a back and forth dialogue.
10:30Your remarks should be directed to the city council and not to individual staff members.
10:34If you want to speak under the public comment period, please press the raise your hand button near the bottom of your Zoom window or star nine on your phone now, so we can see the number of people wishing to testify.
10:45If you're speaking in person, please sign up at the back of the room if you have not done so already.
10:50Your name and the last or the last four ridiculous of your phone number will be called out when it is your turn to speak.
10:55Clerk, will you please read?
10:56This is a time set aside for public comment.
10:58Speakers are asked to identify the specific legislation they wish to address.
11:03All right, I'd like to remind everybody to please keep your comments respectful, relevant, focused, and on topic.
11:08We strive to provide a comment period where people can feel respected while sharing a wide variety of viewpoints and acknowledge that we may hear comments that conflict with our values.
11:17To ensure all speakers can express their First Amendment constitutional rights, we ask that you refrain from clapping, cheering, booing, or otherwise being disruptive.
11:26You will have 90 seconds to make your remarks.
11:29Please be mindful of the time frame.
11:30And as always, you are not required to make to make to use all of your time to make your point.
11:35If you cannot remain on topic, you will be given two warnings.
11:38If you remain off topic, we will have we will have to move on and we'll end your time.
11:42Clerk, have we received any written public comment for tonight's meeting?
11:46We've received one email regarding ordinance two nine zero five one.
12:00Hello, I am Tyler Daniels, licensed civil engineer in Tacoma, Washington.
12:05Um I'm talking about uh the sidewalk program.
12:09I would like to entertain a motion to end that program.
12:13Um I have personally observed that program's inefficiency throughout my nine years before being terminated at my employment with the city of Tacoma.
12:25Um it is ineffective.
12:29And that program only served to fund one individual who now makes over 12,000 a month in retirement, more than she made um in the lifetime of her career.
12:41And it is heaving, it's just replacing an outdated uh systems, and we need a solution to move forward with our community because it is not accessible and public works is in an outdated program.
12:57Um, and we need to elevate our consciousness when it comes to what we're putting in for our communities to access uh areas, especially now that we have two major food stores closing in our communities.
13:13Access to transit is a priority.
13:16And when Sound Transit has been uh engineered substandard and constructed substandard and it is crumbling around us.
13:23We need to evaluate our next design when it comes to concrete and what we're doing in our community.
13:28Tacoma deserves better.
13:30Thank you, Madam Mayor.
13:31Thank you very much for your comments this evening.
13:33Kathy Irwin Hi, my name is Kathy Irwin.
13:40I wanted to speak tonight on um ordinance two nine zero five one.
13:45The South Tacoma Groundwater Protection District Code update.
13:49I wanted to say, and I've submitted comments as well as well as other people have over the last few hearings that these code updates, as they're written, will not do anything more to protect the groundwater than has already been done so far, mainly because they are written to continue the status quo of what has occurred in South Tacoma, meaning variances have occurred that have allowed construction of projects that should not have been permitted due to the groundwater protection district guidelines.
14:23Many people have submitted comments, nothing has been changed.
14:26The feedback um the planners have received has been ignored.
14:30And to make a point, they did not include any of the neighborhood council as they claim with the writing of this code.
14:37Um, unfortunately, this code as it is written, will just continue with the confusion of who's doing what, who's accountable for what, who interacts with what as far as the departments go.
14:50And the two different systems that are used for permitting, including the planners using their system for deciding if they're gonna have a variance on a project or not.
15:00So it is not changing any of that.
15:02And unfortunately, you're just gonna continue with the same unless it is thoroughly looked at again and modified as recommended.
15:13Thank you very much, Kathy.
15:14Thank you for being here this evening.
15:15All right, I'm gonna turn to the two people who have signed in the chambers, and I'll call Michelle Reich, followed by Kit Burns.
15:28I'm speaking to the 29051 groundwater protection.
15:33Um first of all, um there has not been uh a thorough study of the air, water, and ground pollution that would come from construction of a megaware house.
15:45Uh also a megawarehouse will change the character of the neighborhood to a semi-industrial there with uh hundreds of diesel trucks coming in and out.
15:56And you should uh see what uh the pollution would entail by going to the port of Tacoma and doing sampling there, so that way you know what happens South Tacoma when you put it uh megawarehouse there, you'll get a good reading on what the pollution will be.
16:15Um the underwater aquifers is a very important resource to protect.
16:22Yeah, they're very limited and finite in the world, and and Tacoma has good water, and uh sure to protect it there.
16:33One final comment is that uh the UN declared payment in Gaza on Friday, period.
16:45All right, Kit, come forward.
16:51My name's Kit Burns.
16:53I have a comment on um 29051.
16:58Um, just two minor ones, two small ones.
17:01Uh one is a definition that says here under definitions under P, it says metal roofs are also considered to be pollution generating surfaces, impervious surfaces.
17:15But the sentence continues on.
17:16It says, unless they are coded with an inert non-leachable material.
17:21I have a problem with that because you can't define that.
17:24I'm sure your designers can't define that as somebody who's written specifications, everything.
17:29This is rather vague.
17:31Um typically, when you have a metal roof, it always comes with a plastic overlay that will leach on to the impervious center.
17:39So my recommendation to the city council is to just say metal um, sorry, that uh everything is considered as pollution generating.
17:48Second comment, this is just a small one, but it's an important one.
17:52Um your drawing figure one, uh STB, or sorry, STGPD, well head protection area.
18:01I believe it's really grossly inaccurate.
18:04And so I produced another drawing.
18:06I've looked at the bridge industrial, and I know what is six months and what is one year.
18:10In fact, your own drawings right here, which I will leave with the city clerk, shows you that you now have a conflict if you go forward with this without reviewing it carefully.
18:19Um you have my phone number email, I'll be happy to talk about the details.
18:24Thank you very much, Kit.
18:26Thank you very much, Kit.
18:27All right, that's everybody who's signed up.
18:28I'll declare the public comment period close.
18:31Bring it back to the full council, and we'll go on to our regular agenda.
18:34Item 11, Clerk, will you please read resolution 41746?
18:43A resolution appointing and reappointing individuals to the equity and contracting advisory committee.
18:54I move to adopt resolution number 41746.
18:58All right, I'd like to call on Deputy Mayor Daniels.
19:01Thank you, Madam Mayor.
19:02Um, at the August 12th, 2025 Economic Development Committee meeting, the committee conducted interviews for the Equity and Contracting Advisory Committee and recommended the appointment and reappointment of the following individuals.
19:16Christopher Brown, Suchil Nihal, Katie Barrett, Clint Myers, and Justin Baker.
19:27Are there any um council questions or comments?
19:30Seeing none, all those in favor of adopting resolution number 4174 six, signify by saying aye.
19:39All right, the resolution is declared adopted.
19:41Moving on to item 12.
19:42Clerk, will you please read?
19:43Resolution 41747, a resolution appointing and reappointing individuals to the Transportation Commission.
19:55Sorry, I was very good at come on.
19:57I move to adopt resolution number 41747.
20:01All right, I'd like to call on Councilmember Walker.
20:04At the August 13th, 2025 Infrastructure Planning and Sustainability Committee meeting.
20:09The committee conducted interviews and recommended the appointment and reappointment of the following individuals to the Transportation Commission.
20:16Bronwyn Clark, Austin Goebb, and Richard Gardner.
20:22Are there any additional council questions or comments?
20:25Seeing none, all those in favor of adopting resolution number 41747.
20:30Signify by saying aye.
20:33The resolution is declared adopted.
20:36Are there any of the individuals whose name oh there you are?
20:39Is there any are there any other individuals whose name I called who are here this evening?
20:46Um to those um to those of you who are not here this evening, um, and to the to those of you who are here.
20:54We want to thank you for volunteering and continuing your service service on the equity and contracting advisory committee and the transportation commission.
21:04Um, we really appreciate your willingness to serve, and I'd like to ask everyone to please join me in a round of applause for our new appointees.
21:16Thank you all very much for agreeing to serve.
21:19All right, we're gonna move on to communications.
21:22Item 13 is information only and no action is necessary.
21:27Moving on to resolutions.
21:28Item 14, Clerk, will you please read?
21:30Resolution 41748, a resolution revising the approved cancellation of regular city council meetings and study sessions in 2025 by ratifying the cancellation of the April 8th study session and reinstating the November 4th study session in the November 12th meeting and study session.
21:47I move to adopt resolution number 41748.
21:51Um, first I'd like to start by thanking Deputy Manor Deputy Mayor Daniels for actually introducing this on my behalf.
21:57But since she's done that, we have also had to add back one more study session for November 4th.
22:03So the resolution will add the study session on November 4th and both the study session and business meeting on November 12th.
22:10Are there any additional council comments or questions?
22:13Seeing none, all those in favor of adopting resolution number 41748, signify by saying aye.
22:20All those opposed, the resolution is declared adopted.
22:22Moving on to first reading of ordinances.
22:24Item 15, Clerk, will you please read?
22:26Ordinance 29050, an ordinance granting a non-exclusive 10-year telecommunications branchise agreement to level three communications LLC to construct, operate, and repair a telecommunication system in the city.
22:39I would like to call on Jeff Luters, who's here in person.
22:43Thank you, Mayor and City Council members.
22:45My name is Jeff Leaders, and I'm the Media and Communications Office Division Manager for Franchise Services from the City Manager's Office.
22:52Before you this evening is a request for ordinance number 20929050 for a 49-page telecommunications franchise agreement for your consideration between Level 3 Communications LLC, a subsidiary of Lumen, and the City of Tacoma, setting forth provisions, terms, and conditions of the grant of franchise, specifically making such grants subject to the provisions of Title 1016B and Title 10, Title 10, sorry, of the Tacoma Municipal Code and the Tacoma City Charter.
23:24Providing for city regulation of the telecommunications system prescribing liquidated damages and certain other remedies for violation of the franchise provisions, in addition to those specified persuaded to the municipal code.
23:36This request from Level 3 Communications LLC is for their third 10-year telecommunications franchise agreement.
23:44The previous were under ordinance number 26465 in 1999 and a renewal under ordinance number 28214 in 2014.
23:55This franchise would allow level three communications LLC, a Delaware limited liability company currently involved in the business of operating a telecommunications network utilizing fiber optic technology to continue to operate within the City of Tacoma.
24:09The only change that has occurred since the last renewal is that in 2017, Level 3 Communications LLC was purchased by Lumen.
24:19This item was presented to the government performance and finance committee during the August 19th, 2025 meeting for your consideration and approval this evening.
24:28A special thanks to Charles Lee, Deputy City Attorney, and Alexis Cutler and Josh Freeman of Lumen for all of their efforts as we negotiated this agreement.
24:38This concludes my presentation, and I can stand for any questions.
24:44Thank you very much, Jeff.
24:45Um do we have any council questions or comments?
24:48All right, we do not.
24:49So this ordinance will be set over for final reading on September 16th.
24:55This item will have a PowerPoint presentation.
24:57Clerk, will you please read?
25:00Ordinance 29051 and ordinance amending chapter 13.06 of the municipal code relating to zoning by amending various sections to implement the South Tacoma Groundwater Protection District Code Update Work Plan to strengthen groundwater protections, align with best available science and ensure consistency with state and local regulations as recommended by the Planning Commission.
25:27Good evening, Mayor Withers, Deputy Mayor Daniels, members of the City Council.
25:32My name is Miriam Muinon.
25:34I'm a senior planner with Planning and Development Services.
25:37And I'm here tonight on behalf of PDS Environmental Services, Tacoma Water, Tacoma Pierce County Health Department to help introduce ordinance number 29051, which is the proposed update to the South Tacoma Groundwater Protection District Code.
25:58This is the first reading of the ordinance to consider amendments to the South Tacoma Groundwater Protection District Code.
26:06I will start by giving a little background on the CGPD, what this overlay district does and why it matters.
26:13Then I will talk about the code changes recommended by the Planning Commission.
26:19And finally, I will end the presentation with the summary of the potential next steps for the city council.
26:29The CGPD is an overlay zone created in 1988 to protect the South Tacoma Aquifer from contamination.
26:37The code applies to commercial and industrial uses and establishes standards for substance storage, stormwater infiltration, spill prevention and enforcement.
26:52The lead engines is involved in this update are Tacoma Pierce County Health Department, Tacoma Water Environmental Services, and Planning and Development Services.
27:15One of the key updates is about better connecting the SCGPD with the critical the city's critical areas preservation ordinance or CAPO.
27:25Right now, the SCGPD code doesn't mention CAPO, and it doesn't officially recognize the area as a critical aquifer recharge area or CARO, which is important because the CARAS are protected for both water quality and recharge function.
27:43With this update, this district would be formally designated as a CARO and tied into broader critical areas code.
27:53It would also be recognized as part of the Central Pierce County Source Aquifer.
28:01In regards to map refinements, the boundaries of the SCGPD are being updated to reflect the Manitone neighborhood, which was annexed into the city last year.
28:13And to also show the wellhead protection area time of travel zone.
28:20In regards to enforcement, right now enforcement is led by the health department, starting with voluntary compliance before escalating to formal actions.
28:33With this update, new tools such as stop work and stop use orders would allow faster response to serious or emergency violations when the aquifer is at risk.
28:49In regards to general program awareness, in the current code, education is mostly tied to enforcement and focus on regulated businesses.
29:49The process will now involve environmental services and Tacoma Water, in addition to planning and development services and Tacoma Pierce County Health Department.
30:00And as for stormwater infiltration and impervious surface standards, currently the code focuses uh more on preventing contamination than on recharging the aquifer.
30:14With this update, um infiltration would become the preferred stormwater management method in the recharge areas, um, as long as it doesn't pose a risk to water quality.
30:26Um contamination assessments would be required to make sure it's feasible and safe.
30:32And uh new limits on lot coverage in industrial zones uh would also help to improve recharge and reduce the runoff.
30:44Um in addition, uh, in regards to landscaping, uh new standards are being proposed for industrial zones in the CGPD and the Tacoma Mall uh Regional Growth Center.
30:57Um these standards aim to improve stormwater infiltration by reducing uh impervious surfaces.
31:06Um and lastly, the update uh expands the list of high impact uses.
31:11Um you will find the full list in the ordinance packet on pages 16 and 17.
31:17Um it also introduces uh a tiered protection approach based on how vulnerable uh different parts of the aquifer are uh the most vulnerable areas, the one-year time of travel zone uh shown on this map in orange, would have the strongest protections, the 10-year time of travel zone and the remaining of SCGPD outside the outside of the Wellhead Protection Areas uh would allow more flexibility.
31:45Uh this approach helps protect groundwater without um restricting uses across the entire um district.
31:53Um the draft code also uh proposes to uh permanently prohibit metal recycling and auto-rehume facilities and underground storage tanks, which are um temporarily prohibited by the moratorium in the entire uh uh SCGPD.
32:15Uh for the next steps, uh following tonight's first reading.
32:19Uh, we are scheduled to return to the city council on September 9 for the final reading of ordinance.
32:25And as a reminder, the moratorium expires on September 20th.
32:31Um, this concludes my presentation, and we are happy to answer any questions you may have.
32:37Thank you very much, Councilmember Rambah.
32:40Thank you, Mayor, and thank you so much for the presentation.
32:43And we've heard this like three times now.
32:46Um, I do have a question for the city manager about the MOU, the memorandum of understanding that will be put together.
32:53I just want to know how do we make sure that happens?
32:57Is there anything that we can do to make sure that that the community knows that the memorandum of understanding is going to happen?
33:03Because of course it probably can't happen before this gets approved.
33:07Thank you very much, uh, Councilmember Walker.
33:09Um I think the Ramba.
33:12It sounds like something she would ask, though.
33:14So I'll give her the credit.
33:16Councilman Rumba, I apologize.
33:17I think the cleanest and probably the fastest ways you can direct me to work with our um our our team at PBS uh to ensure that you if you want to set a if the council would like to as a quorum set that out through um uh a directive, I can take that and work with PDS and come back to you.
33:34You probably want something succinct within a time frame that would actually be uh that we could actually meet.
33:40Let me meet with the team, and I'll come back to you about that.
33:42Okay, that would be great.
33:43And then I can I could talk with you in a public meeting, maybe even next Tuesday about what that might be.
33:47Well, we don't have a meeting next Tuesday, but I am 0 for two today.
33:52But maybe we could talk to my to Linda and see what we're doing.
33:55We will work with your office.
33:56Okay, thank you so much.
33:58And then and then could if you all worked on something that we could add to this, would you all then bring that back in an amendment for second reading?
34:06Are there any other additional questions at this time?
34:09Councilmember Bush now.
34:12Um, I'm just gonna reiterate what I said in study session, but for the for everybody else that's listening.
34:16Uh so last week at our study session, um uh staff led uh the South Tacoma Groundwater Protection District uh hearing debrief.
34:24Uh and in their present presentation, they identified four uh suggested edits to the STGPD, um, which included uh adding language for non-conforming uses, existing underground storage tanks, uh maybe replaced, provide the replacement needs of standards for a new tank, uh remove waiver language, reference the variance process, uh some clarifications for split parcels, as well as some minor code cleanups based on public um based on public comments.
34:51Um so I do plan to bring uh forward some amendment uh these amendments, uh staff amendments uh for the second reading of the ordinance uh on Tuesday, September 9th.
35:02Um and I want to thank uh Councilmember Scott for working with me on those as well.
35:07All right, thank you very much, Councilmember Bushnell.
35:09Are there any other comments or questions?
35:12All right, seeing none.
35:13Um, Mary, thank you so much for the presentation, and this ordinance will be set over for final reading on September 9th.
35:21Uh moving on to uh unfinished business.
35:24Is there any unfinished business?
35:26All right, seeing none.
35:27Moving on to community forum, um, which uh community forum is set up that uh you can speak about items over which the city council has jurisdiction.
35:38As a reminder, these forums are intended to give speakers the opportunity to share their viewpoints and feedbacks with the city council to aid in our decision making and are not meant to be a back and forth dialogue.
35:49Your remarks should be directed to the city council and not at individual staff members.
35:54At this time, I'd like to ask attendees if you wish to speak under community form to please press the raise your hand button near the bottom of your Zoom window or star nine on your phone now so we can see the number of people wishing to testify this evening.
36:07If you speak in person, please sign up at the back of the room if you have not done so already.
36:11Your name or the last four digits of your phone number will be called out when it is your turn to speak.
36:17Clerk, will you please read?
36:19The purpose of community form is to assist the council in making policy decisions.
36:23Items of discussion will be limited to matters over which the council has jurisdiction.
36:27Arguments shall not be made in support of or opposition to any matters on this week's agenda, and each person may address the council only one time during this forum.
36:36Right, community forum will be limited to a total of 60 minutes, and each speaker will have 90 seconds to make your remarks.
36:42Please be mindful of the time frame.
36:44As always, you are not required to use all of your time to make your point.
36:47If you cannot remain on topic, you will be given two warnings.
36:50If you remain off topic, we will have to move on and we'll end your time.
36:54Clerk, have we received any written public comment for this evening?
36:58We've received two, one regarding initiative measure number two and one regarding peer transit.
37:03Wonderful, thank you.
37:05I'm gonna start by calling on Tyler Daniels, who has his hand up online.
37:14Uh the City of Tacoma operates outside of their legal requirements under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
37:22They do not provide protections to any employee who works with a third-party contractor.
37:29That would be the subsidiary of Lumen, who they intend to allow to profit off of our airspace for the next 10 years.
37:37The City of Tacoma has graciously provided little Annabelle with 15 plus minutes to be the sheriff of the day and devote the entire meeting around that when they have provided employees who speak their truth about being discriminated, harassed, and retaliated against no opportunity to speak.
37:58And in fact, they serve to perpetuate a culture of silence by eliminating them from the organization.
38:06And Madam Mayor, council members, I ask you if this is what you wish to be the result of your legacy in office, then continue to move at the rapid pace that you are working at at a pace of going nowhere to progress.
38:24I ask you to put pen to paper before your turn is over, Madam Mayor, to do something about the loopholes within personal management policy 130 and your inability to provide protections to any employee for harassment, discrimination, or retaliation.
38:47Thank you very much for your comments tonight, Tyler.
38:55My name is April Smith.
38:56I just want to thank the city for the work that they're doing along 84th and Larchmont on the sidewalks.
39:04Um when we had done our walk with the neighborhood council in the past, we noted a lot of issues on these sidewalks as I'm disabled and was in a wheelchair and almost thrown out on them.
39:16So it's really nice to see the city actually working on getting those areas fixed.
39:24Thank you very much for your comments tonight, April.
39:26All right, I'm gonna move to those who have signed in, and we'll start with Brett Frank.
39:33Brent, sorry, Brent.
39:45Me and my brother are a part of a fourth generation plumbing company uh since the 50s.
39:51Um July uh 19th, 13th, excuse me, I watched as my neighbors building of 99 years burnt down to the ground.
40:01Burnt down to the ground.
40:05And it was 50 feet from our shop.
40:08And you know, uh the homeless are just out of control down there.
40:12Um I was told the police by the police that there's nothing they can do, and to come talk to you guys.
40:19It's literally since that's happened literally every night since that's happened.
40:24The homeless have been in this building, looting it, stripping it of everything precious.
40:30It's we put up they put a fence up, they cut it immediately.
40:32I mean, I've called, we got it on camera.
40:34We there's I don't know what to do.
40:37Um he wants to tear it down.
40:39He can't tear it down because of all the loopholes.
40:41It's a it's a uh it's a danger.
40:45I mean, it's uh he's trying to do everything, we're trying to do everything.
40:48I really need we need help.
40:50We need help down there.
40:51We're business owners, we're busy, we're taxpayers.
40:56I I also went to Downing, Mason, Wilson.
41:00My kids did, and uh we just need help.
41:03And uh I don't know what to do.
41:05Just tell us what to do, and we will do it.
41:09Thank you very much.
41:09Um, I believe it's your brother who's coming up next, right, Brian.
41:14Okay, Brian, coming up, Brian, when you come up, will you tell us exactly where the businesses are located?
41:18And Brent, you had me till you said Wilson.
41:27Uh, our business is uh off of South Tacomaway by Still Street, um, right behind Johnson's mill work.
41:34So his address, 2319 South Tacomaway, 98409.
41:39And again, um, we have been working with the police, we've been working with 311.
41:45Five years ago, we didn't have a fence around our building or our property because we didn't need it.
41:49And now all of our neighbors have electric fences, gates, security.
41:55We're just we are a fourth generation business.
41:58Our grandpa started in Tacoma in 1950.
42:01He had a business down on uh Wilkerson in South Tacoma Way.
42:06Then he moved it to Cake Harbor.
42:07My dad took it over with my mom, and uh they ran it out of Gate Harbor for a while.
42:13Brent and I grew up in Tacoma.
42:14We moved it back to Tacoma, and we've been here in the area again, doing what we can.
42:20Uh, but it it is I I know you guys are pro-business, but there's there's definitely something going on down in that area that the police are not enough.
42:31We're not enough as business owners.
42:33Um, just on our street alone, there's been three businesses that have closed and moved away.
42:38Those are taxpayer businesses that are gone.
42:42When they leave, the homeless break into the buildings, set up camps, loot, take everything, and I would just ask again, what can we do?
42:52What what can you guys do to help us help the area, help the community?
43:00Um, thank you very much for your comments tonight, Brent and Brian.
43:03Brett and Brian, I'm gonna ask Carissa.
43:06Um, if you all Chris is right back there in the corner waving her hands.
43:10I know we've got your name and addresses here, but Chris is gonna talk with you and take some information, and we're gonna take that back and make sure that our city manager reaches out to you so we can figure out how we can support you.
43:22Thank you very much for being here.
43:24All right, Steven Stephen Bach.
43:27Come on up, Stephen.
43:30Hi, I'm Stephen Bach, and I'm here to talk today to talk about the closure of the Fred Meyer on Pacific Avenue.
43:35That store is one of the for South End's primary sources of food, full stop, and has fed tens of thousands of people for the last 50 years and ongoing.
43:42But recently, Kroger has decided to close it.
43:44And what's worse than the actual closure is the complete is the apparent lack of any kind of response from either our government or our community.
43:51Now, I understand we all will find out more information at the South End Neighborhood Council meeting on Thursday, but still, everyone seems to be accepting the closure as inevitable, and not even attempting to put up a fight.
44:03Sometimes you just can't walk away from a bully.
44:06Kroger is such a bully that you can't let win in this case.
44:10And we're not alone here.
44:11Kroger has also announced other store closures in Washington State.
44:15So again, where's the response?
44:17Where's the community organizing?
44:18Where's the cease and assist letters?
44:20Where's the press releases and legal threats to Kroger?
44:23So far, the only person that said anything publicly is Councilmember Bushnell.
44:27Thank you, by the way.
44:28Heck, where's the attorney general here?
44:31Where's Governor Ferguson?
44:32Have any of their offices been contacted over this?
44:35Have we talked with some of the other cities being affected?
44:37Is there a coordinated response yet?
44:39Bottom line, how can I or others like me light an absolute fire under everyone's feet about this?
44:46How can we fight back?
44:47How can we show that Kroger that we and like the other cities in Washington State won't take this lying down and that we will fight hard both politically and legally to keep to keep these stores open and food and our access to food and water flowing to the old so we can't migrate to other neighborhoods?
45:03Thank Stephen, thank you very much.
45:05And I'm gonna ask Tanya Carter, who is our um director of community and economic development.
45:10We are working with them.
45:11So if you will if you will see Tanya before you leave, she's right back here.
45:18Yeah, you she's you she's right, she's sitting right next to the fire chief.
45:21Make sure you check in with her.
45:31I'm gonna challenge this city council on your precursors, progressive identity, credentials, and your limitations to that.
45:42The letters L G B T Q.
45:46IA plus there should be one more letter behind that, and that's as for sex industry workers, because they're a sexual minority and they need to be protected, and they're discriminated against a lot, uh, not only by uh individuals, their clients, and the police.
46:08And I've been uh um on the sexual minority commission in Seattle for two years.
46:15I was alternate point, and we received complaints from the sex industry workers about discrimination and crimes, and this should be a protected class.
46:28Uh as a former member associate uh quads, the professional body of sex therapist.
46:35Uh, commercial sex is not dysfunctional unless it interferes with activities of daily living and should be allowed.
46:43That's the official position of this body of sex therapists.
46:48In Tacoma, the Schoenfield building, the Davida building that was richly constructed to be the world's largest sprothel west of the Mississippi, and never did take place, but that's uh where we are.
47:02And so look into it.
47:04And another thing is that you might think it's a violation, but the city council has violated dozens of local, state, and federal crimes.
47:16Michelle, you say sanctuary laws.
47:18Michelle, Michelle, please, Michelle.
47:23To dress, thank you, Michelle.
47:25Thank you, Michelle.
47:27Thank you, Michelle.
47:32Oh, Council, Deputy Mayor, Mayor, all of you with the high calling.
47:42I am Janice Clark, and the subject is honoring our heroes and hearons.
47:49Uh invitation to our 13th annual Veterans Day.
47:53I am uh also congratulating uh Councilman Bushnell for his appointment as the chair of the military.
48:01I wrote it down Military Communities Council, and I'm looking forward as I corner you in, not really corner, you're very cordial in community when I see you.
48:12So we're looking forward to joining hands and expand the reach of this initiative throughout.
48:19Um I will I brought a packet of information for you.
48:21I will follow up, like you said, and send your email so I can get on your calendar so I can unpack the slide deck and everything for this event.
48:30Also for confidential purposes, your eyes only.
48:34We do have a signed contract with the uh EQC, event capital of the Northwest, entertainment capital of the Northwest, so we're excited.
48:44Took us about four months in negotiations to get it, but we're proud of that, and we're looking forward uh to not only this great city and leave this in double indelible mark on the veterans community active duty military veterans and their families, guard and reservist.
49:03So um, Madam Mayor, I will follow up with the appropriate protocols to get the proclamation, etc.
49:10But I'll leave this for you, Councilmember.
49:13Thank you very much, Dr.
49:15All right, and our final speaker this evening will be Patricia Concha.
49:19And please put um three minutes, Kit, you're wanting to speak?
49:25Yeah, we missed I'll get you right after this.
49:31Please put three minutes on the timer.
49:33Um she will have an interpreter this evening.
49:36Good afternoon, everybody.
49:38Oh, this is Patricia Concha.
49:42I have to tackoma one year ago.
49:46Um you camino for bastante poor, sinker describing much la infrastructure urbana del ornato public.
50:03Since I walk through the city very often, I found that a lot of the structures in the city are very dangerous for the community and for those pedestrians that are walking through.
50:31One of the major things that I've noticed is a lot of the posts that are holding our signs are very loose.
50:37They're not fitting in the concrete.
51:15And I know I've been talking with Carisa about it to see if I could get in touch with somebody that might be able to get us more information or help.
52:01So I know I have to keep this short because we don't have a lot of time.
52:04But a lot of it, my concerns again, are they ornate or the sign holders that are uh in bad um uh situation the way they would they're looking.
52:16Also my biggest concern is also with the transit.
52:19Whenever you're trying to cross the street, people going straight normally will stop and they'll let you through, but the ones turning will turn right into you, and if you don't step back or get out of the way, they'll insult you, scream at you.
52:51Una campagna e respetual.
52:57I know I'm running out of time, so I just wanted to say real quick if there's any way that we can start a campaign to uh protect lives and protect women's rights.
53:05Um and then respect for life.
53:09Thank you very much, and thank you for please let her let Trishano thank you for your comments this evening.
53:14Thank you for being here.
53:16Um Clarissa in the back can talk to you about 311.
53:19Oh, oh no, there right right there.
53:22The director of our um public works department is standing right in the back for you to talk to.
53:28Kit, you're our last speaker tonight, and I apologize.
53:35Happy to be here tonight.
53:37I know it's election seasons coming up, but in spite of that, I spent a lot of time walking the streets of uh Tacoma and walking the sidewalks particularly.
53:48And I've mentioned it before to some of the commissions about having uh basically I would call a traffic uh sidewalk fund.
53:56And that fund would be so that the city could actually repair the sidewalks without the expense going to the homeowner until the home is sold.
54:05And so I just want to plant that seed that you could work on that.
54:09Um there are many sidewalks that are badly in need of repair, and I can navigate them presently.
54:16Uh but it's a challenge for people in wheelchairs and other ways, mobility impaired.
54:21So my thinking is there could be a fund, and it could come out from the city's reserve fund.
54:25I don't know what the amount would be that I'd have to do some calculations on that.
54:29But if you set up a fund of say $10 million to replace sidewalks, and then that sidewalk could be repaired in front of a piece of property, and what you would do is then assign it to the property, and that way older people that are retired that don't have the funds to come up with 8,000 or 10,000 or whatever it takes to repair the sidewalk, could tie it on to their uh property as a lien uh to be paid at the time of sale or the transfer of the polyp uh property.
54:57That would allow a lot of the property to get done quickly and immediately.
55:02Needs a great deal of input from public works, but also planning.
55:06I think it could be done.
55:07So think about that.
55:09Thank you very much, Kit, and thank you for this suggestion.
55:12All right, um, I'm gonna allow one more person who raised their hand online to speak.
55:18And so we'll go back.
55:19I normally don't do this, but we'll go back to the person who is online.
55:40Pen Lau, if you're online, go ahead and speak.
55:48Uh I live in the district five.
55:52I was born and raised Tacoma.
55:54Uh somebody brought up the front of our closing earlier.
55:58Um, and I was going to bring that up and speak about it.
56:03But uh first of all, the Kroger merger happened 28 years ago.
56:09So let's get over that.
56:11It's got nothing to do with the Kroger merger.
56:15The closing, it's everything to do with shrink.
56:19And I'm very disappointed that the city and the council and even the county has not raised some serious bells and whistles about that store closing.
56:36I do believe I worked for the company for 30 years.
56:40Um started as a kid that brought the cards in, worked my way up to store manager and district multi-store leadership.
56:49I was responsible for millions in PL dollars.
56:55And I did all that on just a couple of years of community college.
56:58So Fredmeyer taught me a lot.
57:02And I do believe that the society that we're dealing with today, the route is retail crime.
57:12Theft in general is the downfall of any society, but retail crime has gone unchecked for years, and I believe it's a gateway.
57:27Thank you for your comments this evening.
57:29Um, seeing as no one else has their hand raised, I have nobody else signed up.
57:33I'm gonna declare the public comment period closed, bring it back to the council.
57:37And I'm city manager, do you have a report this evening?
57:40Madam Mayor, uh, no report.
57:43All right, I'd now like to call on Councilmember Walker, who's chair of the infrastructure planning and sustainability committee.
57:50The infrastructure planning and sustainability committee has met twice since our last report out as our June 25th and July 9th meetings were canceled.
57:57On July 23rd, the committee conducted interviews to fill seats on the Board of Building Appeals, and this body adopted that resolution appointing the candidates we recommended last week.
58:07IPS also received and discussed three communications at that meeting, a letter from the Transportation Commission on the second draft of Pierce Transit's 2045 long-range plan, a memo from solid waste management on a pilot project to recycle residential food waste, and a memo providing a status update on the planning commission's current work program.
58:29IPS will revisit the planning commission's work program this fall after the commission has completed its work plan review.
58:35On August 13th, the committee conducted interviews to fill seats on the Transportation Commission, and we just confirmed those recommendations earlier this evening.
58:43Our next meeting is tomorrow, August 27th, and our agenda topics are two that everyone has been waiting for transportation impact fees and the stormwater and wastewater system development charges.
58:54Both of those will come to full counsel after IPS.
58:58Madam Mayor, that concludes my report.
59:00Thank you very much, Councilmember Walker.
59:02Are there any council are there any final counsel comments?
59:07Seeing none, um, I I want to do a make a couple of of an yeah, make a couple of comments.
59:14Number one, um, for those of you who have commented on on the closing of the Kroger Fred Myers, um, and obviously we've just been a little too quiet about it.
59:25But um first of all, I just want to let you know that before they close, the president of Kroger did reach out to me directly, share that information with our economic development department and with council member Bushnell.
59:36Um their decision by the time they reached out to us, their decision to close was already made, and it was a business decision, and we have no jurisdiction over private businesses deciding to close.
59:48Um we did have a conversation, and our economic development director, um Tanya Carter Carter, along with um a couple of people from the county are working together and are working with um with Fred Myers and Kroger to talk about the future of the building, what their plans are, um, how we can partner together.
1:00:06They are not the owners of the building, they leased the building.
1:00:09Um, and so I will what I will commit to is we don't have a council meeting next Tuesday, but the Tuesday after that, the ninth, either myself, Councilmember Bushnell, or our economic development, Tanya Carter will come forward and give a full um report of what we know so far and what we've learned and how we're working with Fred Myers.
1:00:27So apologize for being so quiet about it.
1:00:29Um but it's a private business, so sometimes it's it's it's hard for us to tell them what to do to do, but I want to make sure that the community understands that we are working directly with them.
1:00:40Number one, to make sure that all their employees get what they need in order to transition, but then to always also make sure that the community gets what they need out of the building, um and to make sure as they are um as they are leaving that building that we make sure that we're leaving it in the best repair for the community and making sure that we can do whatever we can to work with both Kroger and the person who leases the building to do best by our community.
1:01:04So apologize for not getting that information out sooner, but look further at our next meeting on the 9th for a full update of where we are with Kroger.
1:01:13And then the other uh the other thing I'd like to talk about this evening is I just want to recognize the Tacoma Police Department's um third annual Kid Kids Health and Safety Fair held last weekend at the East Side Community Center.
1:01:27Um, thanks to the incredible support of our community partners, volunteers, and donors.
1:01:32Thousands of children were ready to start the school year.
1:01:38Um, and they called that event school ready on day one.
1:01:42There were thousands of kids.
1:01:43They don't they gave out over 1200 backpacks.
1:01:46They were doing haircuts, providing um providing food on site, as well as providing lunches for folks to take home.
1:01:55In addition to that, um, just serve was there handing out um handing out bags of food for parents to take home.
1:02:02They were doing haircuts, they were doing physicals, they were doing dental cleaning for kids out in the front.
1:02:10They have lots of vendors who were giving out information and support to young people.
1:02:14So I just really um want to thank our police department, especially under the leadership of Bourbon Smith, who's our community relations specialist.
1:02:24Um, I I don't know, I'm sure there are lots of people who work really hard, but Bourbon's got to be up there.
1:02:30He was doing absolutely everything.
1:02:33They also had vaccinations, vision screenings.
1:02:36Um, they really brought a lot of vital resources to parents.
1:02:39When I got there, there was already, and it was at 11 o'clock, there was still a line all the way around the building going down the street.
1:02:47Um, and so we're gonna have to talk about where they do it next year because they have outgrown the East Side Community Center.
1:02:55But um, if I look down on my notes a little a little close a little more, over 5,000 people attended um the event.
1:03:04Um, and it was a great experience for everyone involved.
1:03:06So thanks to our partners, to all of the vendors, to the volunteers, to the families, to everyone who came out.
1:03:13I really want to express um my gratitude on behalf of this council to everyone who gave their time, their energy, and their generosity to make this year's fair another tremendous success.
1:03:24Um, with that, I'd like to remind everyone that September 2nd, 2025, the City Council study session and business meeting and government performance and finance committee meeting have been counts canceled due to the Labor Day holiday.
1:03:39Um, with that, that concludes my remarks, and I'll turn to the deputy mayor for the second to the last motion.
1:03:45I move to excuse Councilmember Saudesh from tonight's meeting.
1:03:52All those in favor signify by saying aye.
1:03:55All those opposed.
1:03:57The motion is declared adopted.
1:04:00I move to adjourn.
1:04:01All those in favor signify by saying aye.
1:04:04All those opposed.
1:04:07The motion is declared adopted.
1:04:09Have a good week, everybody, and happy Labor Day.