All right, good evening, everyone.

It's 6 31, so I will call this Tiger City Council and Town Center Development Agency meeting to order.

City Recorder Craiger, would you please please conduct a roll call?

Councillor Shaw.

Here.

Council President Wolf.

Here.

Councillor Anderson.

Here.

Councilor Goodisi.

Present.

Youth Councilor Helleck.

Mayor Who?

Here.

Councilor Robbins.

Here.

Councilor Schlack.

Here.

All right.

Thank you.

Will everybody please stand and join me in the pledge of allegiance?

Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you.

And youth counselors joining us right now.

City teammate and council, do you have any non-agenda items?

None from us, Mayor.

Seeing none, let's move on to public comments.

The public comment period provides an opportunity for members of the public to address the city council.

While it is not dialogue, either I or staff will follow up to address the issue brought forward in these comments.

The calling number is 503-966-4101.

And those wishing to comment should call now to gain the queue.

Anyone present wanting to comment should sign up on the public comment form at the front of the room.

First item is written comment.

There were no written comments received by the Monday noon deadline.

Next is in person comment.

No, we have none.

Oh, okay.

Okay, yeah.

Well, that's the doing video.

Yeah, and he'll be a video commenter.

Yeah, he's he's doing video comments.

So all right.

So uh Mr.

Van, are there any callers in the queue?

No callers in the queue.

Uh and we have um Mr.

Dalin uh in video, um, ready to provide video comments.

Is that right?

Uh I'm ready.

Yes.

All right.

Hi, Robert.

Uh welcome.

And once you state your name and where you live, um you have two minutes.

Uh hi, uh mayor, council, good evening, and thank you for giving me this time.

My name is Jeff Darland, and I'm a resident here in Tiger and a water rate mayor.

Uh Oregon law is clear.

Uh new development must be its proportionate share of infrastructure costs.

Existing residents should not carry the burden alone.

That is why precisely why system development charges or SDCs exist.

My concern, however, is that Tigers Water SDCs may not be living up to that promise.

Since 2013, the city has paid over 85 million dollars in water bond debt service to build our system.

Of this, SDCs contributed zero dollars.

This is despite the fact that the city's own financial audits pledcase to the servicing of these bonds.

It is also worth noting that since at least 2016, the city's auditor has highlighted this discrepancy in every annual comprehensive financial review.

To address this, I ask the council to formally authorize the use of development fees to pay debt, sir.

To direct city staff to determine the overpayment by ratepayers and begin a plan to reconcile these funds and include these obligations in all future SDC determinations to ensure long-term fairness.

And do these things before commencing or commissioning any new capital projects related to water.

Thank you for your time and for ensuring fairness to all tigered residents.

That's the end of my statement.

Thank you, Jeff.

And we already we also receive written common fund use.

So we will respond to your public comment.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right, so next uh we move on to city manager report.

We have acting city manager Trish to give a brief report.

Good evening.

Good evening, Mayor, Council, and teammates, as well as members of our community.

I have uh two items I'd like to highlight for community members this evening.

Um first, I'd like to make uh people aware of the upcoming joint town hall happening this Saturday from 2 30 to 4 p.m.

at the Public Works Auditorium on Burnham.

The city is pleased to host some of our state elected officials for a town hall where there'll be a question and answer portion at the end.

Attendees can submit questions for that QA at the event or when they are CVP.

More information is available at the City of Tiger website.

For our uh student aged community members, I want to highlight a great opportunity uh with the if I were mayor contest that's formally kicked off.

This program invites elementary, middle, and high school students to share their vision for Tigerd through posters, essays, and digital media presentations.

It's a wonderful opportunity for young people to reflect on leadership, civic responsibility, and the future of our community and to share these ideas directly with Mayor Who.

We're currently reaching out to local schools and encouraging participation with submissions due Sunday, March 29th.

We look forward to seeing strong engagement from students across Tiger and look forward to celebrating their creativity and insight.

You can learn more about this opportunity on the city's website as well.

That's all for me.

Thank you, Mayor.

Thank you, Adele Manager Trish.

Um yeah, I'm looking forward to those two events.

Uh counselor, do you have any comments or questions?

Uh all right.

Seeing none, let's move on to the next item on agenda, which is adopt 2026 federal legislative agenda and assistant to the city manager Hendrix will present this item.

Good evening.

Good evening, Mayor and Council.

Good to see you.

My name is Nicole Hendricks, assistant to the city manager.

So we're asking council tonight to consider adoption of the city's 2026 federal legislative agenda and any edits you may have with that.

Next slide, please.

Our recommendation is to adopt the agenda based on the language provided in your meeting packet.

Um, and that includes next slide, please.

The um guidance from council since bringing this forward back in December uh for initial conversation.

And so the focus is going to be on project specific funding requests that includes our public safety facility and 72nd AB Corridor improvements, as well as policy around transportation and infrastructure, transit reauthorization bill, and affordable housing.

And so I'll hand it back over to you to get direction on next steps.

Thank you, Nico.

Um who would like to start?

Councillor Schott, please.

Thank you so much.

Uh I really appreciate the update.

And a couple of just follow-up questions.

I know in the past we've talked about zip codes and the fact that we wanted to become our own city, we didn't have a postmaster, so I know that had been on a previous legislative agenda, so curious if that was something we are dropping, and then I have some other suggestions, which I can go over after.

Thanks.

Yeah, so I don't think we heard specific interest in keeping it, and we are still part of uh national, we we joined a coalition of cities who are looking to do this, so we're still doing the work as part of the coalition, but we're not uh we didn't include it on the agenda just because we didn't hear the the direct interest, but if we want to keep that, that is an option.

Uh I myself would have direct interest, but we'll leave it also up to the counselors, fellow counselors and the mayor to decide.

And I'm also wondering um because of the work with Washington County if we can also add support to the community development block grant program funding, and and I apologize for not getting these two in advance.

Um also supporting the community fueling infrastructure, the CFI program, and I know Twalton is a lead of that, but it'd be great as one of the partners if we can say we support that as well, and I can certainly send this to you too as well, Nicole.

That'd be helpful.

Um and I know railroad crossings is be as an issue, um, certainly on the uh transitation committee.

Um so there's also support the railroad crossing elimination program, and that's something we might want to also include.

And again, these are suggestions.

Um there's also um, and I'm not sure where this one lands, the tax-exempt municipal bonds.

I know in the past it also been on our radar.

It'd be nice if one item had been solved at the federal level, but I'm not hopeful at this point.

Uh also um opposing any changes to our federal emergency management agency given the fires we've had here and um potential for the summer.

And then also in this um, I know that we were very concerned about cuts to programs um that might uh be negative against Tiger's most vulnerable population, so like Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP.

But I know something near and dear to Counselor Anderson's heart is the 99 study, and wondering if there's an opportunity there for federal dollars.

So just some thoughts for both Nicole and then our my fellow counselors and the mayor.

Okay.

That's a lot.

So I will maybe we'll we need to come back.

I can ask the interests of the council.

Anyone against any of the thing that Councilor Shaw would like to be added?

Counselor Council President Wolf, please go ahead.

Thank you, Mayor.

And hopefully I'm not um echoing too badly.

A couple things.

Um I guess in in limited resources and trying to be focused and targeted.

Um I would want to um maybe um limit some of the recommendations, which are all wonderful things that counselor Shaw is thinking of.

Um I personally um at this point in and focus on the zip code, that's not a priority for me.

Um in terms of really putting energy towards 72nd and going after that.

I know that's different for you know, uh dollars on 72nd versus a study.

Uh, but I I just want to be mindful from staff's perspective of what does that list look like, what resources make sense.

I like the idea of collaborating and supporting our partners, whether that's you know, um the uh work that Twileton's heading up or Washington County.

Um, and so I guess my focus would be um uh to focus on the um partners' supports and then also the community block grants.

I never thought that HUD might be an issue, but uh that could be.

So I appreciate Councillor Shaw bringing that up.

Otherwise, I would defer to fellow counselors and staff in terms of resources um adding all those items to the list.

And thank you, Councillor Shaw, for creating such a uh uh thorough list.

Thank you, Mayor.

Counselor Schlack.

Thank you, Mayor, and I'd like to thank you, Nicole and the team for um slimming down our federal legislative agenda.

I know I was an advocate for that when this previously came before council just to make sure that our legislative agendas were as fresh and and up to date and relevant as possible for Tigers' interests.

Um and I think it's what I appreciate about doing this is we've gone from the 2025 agenda, which was previously proposed to just be uh approved for 2026.

Now we have a relevant sort of outline of of the projects from that that should continue.

And I think it makes it a lot easier then to consider Councilor Shaw's um considerations.

Uh I'm not against um further consideration of the items that Councillor Shaw brought up.

I do wonder um if a compromise could be approving the current legislative agenda for 2026 and then maybe teeing those up for the 2027 agenda.

But I'm open to further consideration of her items, and thank you for uh the work you've done so far.

Thank you.

I'll go this way.

Um, Counselor Anderson, which way are you leaning?

Um items or table these into your addition until next year, or any specific item you really would like to see this year.

I don't know how deep they go.

I think they read the first page, and that's pretty much it.

Okay.

So, you know, nice clean bullet points and okay.

You know, good points for sure.

Um you had a long list, and uh you are so much more informed than me because this is your job.

What was the second one?

There was community development block grants, and then there was railroad crossing, and there was something in between.

Counselor Robins, um, support the community fueling infrastructure, the CFI program.

That was a $15 million, 15 city grant that we partnered with the city of Twalton, and that's for charging infrastructure in the city.

So electric vehicle charging?

Correct.

Could be electric bikes, could be electric scooters, okay, could be electric wheelchair charging as well.

Um I think some of I I think if we do everything, the list gets too long.

But um right now our list is very short and focused, so I would be open to adding some of those, especially things like the community fueling that we have supported in the past.

Um the zip code is really low on my priority list, and I think with the current state of the federal government, it's not gonna go anywhere.

So um, I guess I'm jaded.

But some of those seem seem like things that I think we should add.

So you'd be more specific for staff or the list.

So I don't know what it means to to eliminate a railroad crossing.

So maybe maybe we need to discuss the case.

Do we have a few more minutes to discuss?

No.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

So perhaps I could compromise because I do hear both Councillor Schlack and Council President Wolf.

Perhaps we do a prioritize list.

So the priority would be the seven 72nd Avenue corridor improvements, public safety facility, and then we could send under that support.

Because if we're supporting the community development block grants, we're supporting our Washington County brethren.

If we're saying community fueling infrastructure, we're supporting 15 other cities, including ourselves.

If we're supporting the railroad crossing elimination, it's Twalton, Beaverton, Us, and I probably uh LO, and there may be one other in there I'm missing.

Um then it's just up to us if we want to say we oppose the uh curbing uh Medicaid, Medicare or SNAP benefits to our less fortunate and more vulnerable population.

So we could narrow it down that way, Mayor, if that's are you suggesting we keep the agenda language and then add an addendum say these are additional things we also support?

Or uh if I understand your correctly.

Yeah, I was thinking uh making just prioritize.

So the project specific funding requests would be like I don't know, we want a number on, but bullet public safety facility, bullet 72nd Avenue Corridor improvements, and then really the policy priorities don't have anything within NSA underneath them.

So I could say is um support policy priorities, and we can still if we want to keep those or integrate the one I'm suggesting into the ghost because they wouldn't integrate okay, Councillor Godusi.

Uh thank you, Mayor.

I like a lot of your ideas.

I on the other hand do feel like the zip code would be a great idea.

I think would help with Tiger branding, and I do think that that would help create a sense of identity here in Tiger.

But that's me personally.

Uh youth counselor, do you have anything that you think we should add to the agenda language?

I like everything that Councillor Shaw has to say about it.

I you know, we all do.

But I am a little bit hesitant on the zip code stuff because I just like Councilor Robin said, I feel like it's just not gonna happen, but I like everything else.

Okay, Councillor Schlack, go ahead.

Sounds like there is um general interest in some combination of the additional ideas that Counselor Shaw has proposed.

Would the council be uh open to Councilor Shaw providing that list uh to Nicole and team so they can be further evaluated and then we could come back in an appropriate amount of time to review another draft of it?

Would would folks be appropriate or consider that appropriate as opposed to trying to mend things on the fly?

Yeah.

Is there any what is there any go go ahead?

Is there a specific timeline that we have to have these put together?

Yeah, I'm asking is that a timeline?

So no.

No, okay.

I mean, we're gonna we're gonna continue working on these things with our with or without you know, so we can come back if that's helpful, just so we are clear on what the final list looks like.

Uh my my microphone keep turning itself off.

So given the tentative schedule we have right now, I think the earliest we can do is May or late April.

Um so we're actually going to begin the work of planning for the legislative the long session uh in July.

And typically we do the state and federal uh in parallel.

Um so happy to to bring this item back in May.

I just wanted to acknowledge, I think Councillor Schlack mentioned that you know we'll we'll have the opportunity to uh take another look uh and dig in more on the federal agenda for the near term.

Recognizing we do have some counselors going to DC soon.

I'm uh I'm happy to uh have Councillor Shaw's list and uh create um uh an agenda document.

I I suppose probably not before the National League of Cities, but um I do want to recognize that uh we will be revisiting this topic uh here in the summertime uh in order to be prepared for 27.

So Councillor Shaw, would you like to have a piece of documents or for your visit to DC or both Council I understand and I will be going and I think we're fine with just focusing on the public safety, the 72nd Avenue Quarter, and maybe just the community development block grant, because I know that could be in jeopardy.

Um but I think that's gonna be plenty for the the two to three days we're there and the talking points are here, so I think we're we're comfortable with that.

So this could be suitable uh to review for May.

Okay, so for now just these and the community block grant.

And I have a couple added because you asked for it.

So um I just have I'm not sure about the word green um green infrastructure.

Green facility.

So I will prefer something like energy efficient rather than green because green is too big.

And the very first sentence uh during our best day and our worst.

Um I I propose to say tigers committed to maintaining reliable public safety and emergency response services under both normal conditions and during major emergencies.

That's my proposed substitution for the first sentence.

Other than that, I'm I'm fine, and then added the emergency uh the block grant.

I think we are we can come back in May.

That's good enough for now.

Okay.

So we'll come back in May if possible with the agenda with the edits that you have and then the lists that you proposed and kind of blending the feedback.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

Any any other comments or questions?

I don't see Council President Wolf raising her hand.

So thank you, Nicole.

Thank you.

All right.

So that's the one.

All right.

So that the next next item is Town Center Development Agency items.

So that's convene the TCDA board.

So uh the TCDA board would be talking about uh former Tiger Cinema Psy and uh redevelopment manager Farrelly will give the staff report.

And there's a staff present uh slide presentation.

Good evening.

Good evening, Chair Hugh and the uh directors of the Town Center Development Agency.

Uh tonight are providing an update on the cinema site and uh discussion of potential next steps.

Uh the action request we'll be making is to get board direction on whether to begin uh request for qualifications process to select a developer for a portion of the site.

Uh next slide.

So to recap, in August 2025, the TCDA acquired the 10.89 acre site, formerly home to the Regal Tiger Cindus.

Next slide.

Goals for the site um to uh provide the triangle's first neighborhood park, sort of a very fast uh growing area.

Uh second goal is to build out the necessary street and trail infrastructure through the property, uh to restore Red Rock Creek, which flows through the property, including new stormwater sewer facilities.

And then the last goal is to redevelop the portion of the property that won't be used for a park.

Next slide.

So the activities that have uh occurred most recently is you probably noticed the Red Rock Creek stabilization project is well underway.

It's on track to be completed this summer.

Um that construction is complete.

Um we're gonna promote walking and biking through the site uh as a safer alternative to walking to Pacific Highway rather than 72nd Avenue.

So just a small uh improvement, maybe a couple of signs and some paint just to um encourage people to walk through the site uh rather than down 72nd Avenue, which as we know is uh substandard.

And it's we're providing temporary lease for uh Costco employee parking to defray some of the costs.

Uh one other thing to add that we did uh make an ask in the last legislative session for a 1.5 million dollar capital construction grant.

We were not successful in that endeavor.

Uh the major activity we've done is uh community engagement.

Next slide.

Uh community engagement helped determine the future of the site.

Our major activities are shown here.

Uh community development get together in October, briefings to various boards and commissions, meetings with triangle residents, and uh a couple of tabling events, and then an online survey, which had uh 322 participants.

Next slide.

I'd like to highlight a couple of the uh questions and results.

Uh so the question uh what should we put in the park?

What features do you most most want to see?

Uh top four uh responses were walking biking trails, a playground, picnic areas, shelters, and then natural green space.

Um next slide.

To the question, what else does the triangle community need most right now?

Uh the top responses were shown entertainment options, food options, community spaces and housing.

And the uh complete survey results are in your packet.

Um next slide.

We also did some engagement with the real estate community.

Uh interviewed 16 regional industry professionals.

The key takeaways from those uh discussions were that currently Portland uh regional real estate market is kind of lackluster.

Uh but developers are keeping their eye on future sites.

I to everyone agreed the triangle is very attractive uh for apartments, attractive place for development, cinema site also attractive, uh, but the required street infrastructure could be uh a financial hurdle.

Next slide.

So in uh the memo that's in your packet, uh I walked through four potential scenarios, uh going through all the pros and cons in them.

So I'm not gonna go through all of that material except for the the recommended one.

Uh but the four scenarios that are discussed um is a redevelopment first.

So uh that is rebuilding or sorry, redeveloping the non-park section first.

They would build out some of the shared infrastructure, street infrastructure, and then the park could be um designed and then uh constructed soon after the redevelopment is completed.

Second alternative would be a joint development, so simultaneous development of the park and redevelopment, uh basically being uh joint partners with the developer.

Third scenario would be to build the park first and then sell off a piece for redevelopment.

And the last scenario would be um doing all public development of the site, a park, and then some additional community uses.

Next slide.

So we do um staff does recommend uh the redevelopment first.

And next slide.

And laid out the pros and cons here.

Um if the if they're done separately, uh you're keeping the projects clearly separated, you're reducing the risk of private development having to pay prevailing wage.

I go into detail on that in the memo, but um suffice to say prevailing wage are the um higher wages that are public agencies pay on public projects.

Uh private developers don't uh usually pay that.

So if they did have to pay prevailing wage, there would be um you know a bigger financial gap to fill, most likely.

Uh another pro is that if we build the park later, gives us time to assemble funding, including more uh TIFFAC borrowing, uh the SDCs that are generated by the project, and then also going after grants.

Uh the cons, there are some, you know, uh not getting the economies of scale if uh street infrastructure is built sequentially that you would get if you did uh all the development together.

And then also the cost of building out the infrastructure uh could make the private development less feasible.

Uh street the frontage improvement on 72nd will probably be a fairly expensive undertaking.

Uh next slide.

So um if we do get the board's approval, this would be the potential timeline shown here.

It's about 18 months.

Uh doing an RFQ, uh releasing it in the next couple months, doing uh final developer selection.

Likely would want to develop a short list of developers to have them provide more information.

Um with the selected uh developer doing uh memorate memorandum understanding and the board would have to approve that.

And then there will probably be at least six months, if not more, on uh negotiating all the details of the development agreement while the developer works on the site, um uh works on the financial uh side of it, and uh you know the details of build of the building.

Um so then after that is negotiated, the board of the TCDA would have the final approval of that.

So next slide.

Just wanted to leave plenty of time for questions and discussion.

Thank you, Sean.

And just to be clear, you would like our divorce direction on this one the four scenario.

That's the main purpose of this.

Okay.

So before we do that, counselor, do you have any question for Sean before we start discussing the four scenario that you will recommend stop recommend the first option?

Uh counselor Anderson, please go ahead.

Sean, do you have a do you have a zoning map or any any type of uh preference of where you like the development?

Are it's gonna be on the corners or in the back, or how's it gonna work?

So if we go back to the um can we go back to uh third slide, I think so that that is a a concept um slide that you know may or may not look at look like that uh in the end, but we wanted to kind of lay out what it could look like.

So in this um idea, the uh park is on the northern, is the northern parcel that is fronting Red Rock Creek uh and the improvements going on there.

The uh the one to the south, I guess to call it it would be the redevelopment parcel.

So about two and a half acres.

Uh as for the zoning, it is uh triangle mixed use, so that allows a variety of uses.

So it is zoned currently right now?

Yeah.

Okay, gotcha.

Thanks.

Any other questions?

Councilor Robbins.

Yeah, thank you for the Sean.

I was curious.

So now I was at the League of Oregon Cities uh conference last year.

There was a presentation about um sustainable home ownership of affordable housing.

And so basically we build houses and we I think it's that we own the land, but the person buys the house, and then it's said that they make three percent equity per year and they make the payments and you get special funding, so they have like a zero percent mortgage through, and that funding is available.

And then when they sell the house, the next person gets to buy it at affordable housing costs, and it's a way to is there any space for anything like that within this development?

I realize that we don't want to do all of that, but could we consider duplexes or little homes or something for part of that?

So that sounds like the community land trust model.

Yeah.

Um I think that could definitely be part of this.

Um, you know, if we do get the board's direction tonight, uh the intent is to work with the TCAC on kind of some of the goals that we'd be wanting to see in a uh the goals that we will put into the RFQ to ask the developers to address.

Um so you know, that could be put down as a potential goal and and if a developer responds and see if there is a way to do that, or you know, we could make it a you know, we we definitely want that in there as well.

You know, it's you know, we're kind of in the driver's seat.

We also have to be you know realistic financially, see what uh what pencils out.

But um I think uh including affordability goal goals, workforce housing uh would be very appropriate to as it have a goal for a developer.

I I personally think that's a great idea.

I got that at that conference, and it seems like a great way for us to increase housing ownership and how affordable housing without just building another affordable housing apartment complex, you know, a way to help people get into the um home ownership at that basic level, and so then they can move up to the next level.

So I would love to see that, but I realize I'm one of seven.

So for this developer outreach, are we telling them what we want, or are we trying to listen to them on what it's fee what are feasible?

I just want to understand the purpose of outreach.

So the outreach that I did was more just getting um their assessment of the current real estate market, uh high-level views of the site and the triangle in general.

Uh the RFQ is where we are asking for specific things from them.

We're saying what our uh goals are for the site and asking them to respond uh to those goals and then selecting a development team based on how they address those goals.

Okay.

I'm I s I I in principle I support staff uh recommendation of Rita Vam first.

But if we tell them we want this affordable housing model, I worry about if they can find money for infrastructure.

So it's it's good to ask, but I just don't know that's you know, I'm I just I'm just concerned about what we did.

Um Council President Wolf, you have a question.

Thank you, Mayor.

And uh yeah, that kind of combines um Mayor, your question, comment, and with Councilor Robbins.

My wondering um Sean was um what control that we maintain clearly to you know our admin um advantage to get cash flow to uh create those opportunities to later develop the park, but I just want to make sure with mixed use that we you know um still have that control of what we want developed there.

But I just want to make sure with mixed use that we you know um still have that control of what we want developed there.

Um so that was just my only feedback.

So are you supportive of option option one scenario one?

Okay.

So I support option one, but I want to know what the controls and criteria are to ensure that um it meets what our goals are for the area as well.

Okay.

So counselor Anderson, uh just go back to you.

Do you support scenario one?

Um redevelopment first, yes.

I think that prevailing wage is a huge thing.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah, so yeah.

All right, counselor Schlack.

Do you have any question or questions?

I support scenario one.

Okay.

Counselor Shaw, any questions or questions?

Yeah, come ahead.

Uh question, perhaps comment too.

And um, Sean, I know as a TCAC liaison, I've heard a number of times from the committee that uh community service space, community space as well as entertainment space is important.

And if you combine those three, because we've seen Sherwood has uh facility that does all three, so does Twalton.

That ends up being about 420 votes for that.

Um so it within the RFQ, is that one of the options one of the developers could say we can integrate that with whether it's affordable housing or but that doesn't negate we could not not have that in the proposal.

Well, I would say, you know, if if a mixed-use building can provide housing and a ground floor that provides some of those um uh desired um options.

Um I I too, Mayor, would support the recommendation number one, uh, but I would like to encourage so we're not paying like I know TTSD as an event that's outside and gonna be in Portland.

It'd be really nice to bring some of those events into Tiger.

So I would support the um option of looking at some sort of community space or entertainment um combined facilities.

Yeah, that's in the publicly requested right.

So counselor Godusi.

Thank you, Mayor.

I would echo what Councillor Shaw brought up.

Um that is a big thing that a lot of people are wanting uh the community spaces and that sort of thing, but absolutely uh choice one, redevelopment first.

Counselor Robins.

The same choice one.

And youth counselor.

Uh I'd support the first first option.

Um TIAC actually recently we had a conversation about this.

Um our top three, just if you guys, because I saw in the statistics you only got like six responses from minors.

So it was a very full tayak meeting.

Uh we were talking about we want a uh dog park, escape park, and something that everyone kept talking about.

I want like the the outdoor like pull-up bars and bars and things like there are at Fowler.

Don't know what that's called.

It's the outdoor fitness equipment.

Um bar.

I thought you were talking about how to do that.

It took me a second to get there.

But so just if you guys want a little bit more youth input.

We did talk about that recently.

But yeah, I support the first option.

All right, thank you.

So we support first option, but uh we would like um develop an option to be more consistent with the public demand, which is entertainment and public uh public space.

So yeah.

Great.

If I could um answer uh director Wolf's uh earlier question about how do we uh keep control.

Well, we keep controls through the development agreement.

So that's where you know we you know say what is important to the city and what we want to see in order for this developer to get the deal, basically.

So I mean there's a lot of desires that the city wants to have.

Um some of them might be in competition with each other with each other.

It's important to remember it's um it's a big site, but once it's been uh cut through with streets, it kind of fits a little bit smaller.

So, you know, we'll do our best to balance all of the desires and needs with what it a project that's financially feasible.

Yeah, thank you.

And you know, we are committed to having a park there, regardless.

Absolutely.

I just wanted to make that clear.

We still want to park.

Yeah, definitely.

All right, thank you so much.

Thank you.

All right.

And oh, I forgot to call everybody direct everyone director, sorry.

All right, so now we're reconvening as city council, so next item on the agenda is a review of the youth counselor position, which is request requested by counselor Schlack and Robbins.

And our acting city manager Trish will present this item.

Good evening, honorable mayor and council.

I'm acting city manager Trich, and I'm pleased to bring before you the staff report on this item requested by counselors Schlack and Robbins.

If you could go on to the next slide, please.

A couple of things I want to highlight as as we get started.

This is intended to be a review of the overall program.

It's not intended to speak to any individual or anything specific about the program except for its future.

Any changes or direction we receive from council would be implemented for the next cycle.

Recruitment is slated to begin here next month.

And so we look forward to your direction.

Some specific questions we'll be looking to you on relate to program goals and eligibility.

The questions are here and we'll revisit them again at the end.

There's a couple of options including establishing goals to evaluate the youth counselor program going forward or to consider some other uh approach that still encourages um uh youth education and engagement in civic activities.

Uh the question on eligibility actually came from a community comment several months ago uh just about uh what uh young people are uh eligible to apply for the position.

Next slide, please.

Just some background in the program.

It was established with a resolution in 2019, and its uh purpose and eligibility are described uh both in the resolution on the website and on the application, and it's described here.

Its primary intention is to encourage uh student participation participation and interest in civics as well as to get input uh from Tigered Youth on uh city programs and appropriate policies.

Eligibility, it's inclusive of uh students that reside within Tiger, uh any sort of uh school junior and or senior students uh with passing grades in good standing.

On the next slide, I have a couple of discussion questions that perhaps can uh help facilitate uh the conversation on the specific council direction.

This is entirely optional.

Uh if you feel comfortable going right to the uh the questions that we have before you, I'm happy to do that.

I just wanted to share some of the uh the questions I had been hearing and see if it uh it would help uh lead to direction that we look forward to receiving.

Um I wanted to share too that the um uh members of the city manager's office uh did reach out to prior youth counselors to get their evaluation of the program.

Um and after several attempts, unfortunately, uh they weren't able to get responses on those programs, but I wanted to thank uh youth counselor Helleck for the feedback.

Uh I thought that was there were a lot of great observations and recommendations.

So thank you for that.

Um happy to answer any questions uh or to uh facilitate this discussion.

All right, uh counselor, let's do questions first.

Any questions before we dive into any discussion?

No question.

Okay, so um maybe that's I will propose we talk about eligibility.

Maybe that's okay.

That will be less that will be faster before we get into the program goals first.

Um so the current eligibility is students entering their junior or senior year at the time of application, resident of Tiger, but may attend any public or private schools.

Um have a main have and maintain passing grades.

Anyone would like to see the eligibility changed?

Counselor Robbins.

I would like to expand the eligibility to those students living in the unincorporated part of Tigered who frankly feel like they live in Tigered, typically have attended Tigered elementary schools, they live in the TTSD district, but do not currently attend a high school within Tiger.

So those students who have come up through Tigered Schools, but then at high school, they go to a different high school, or they go to say that the one student who is the person who reached out who I know, and I know the student, and he would be an excellent youth counselor, but he goes to Jesuit High School, which is in Beaverton.

So even though he feels like he lives in Tiger, he lives on Bowl Mountain, but since he's in the unincorporated part, he doesn't have another option, right?

He can't go to Beaverton, he can't go to Tualeton.

Jesuit doesn't have a city council he can sit on, so he's missing out.

And part of our problem is we don't have enough students, um, or we don't have a lot of students applying, and this would open it up.

And it's a small number of students, but it's otherwise they don't have any opportunity.

So thank you.

Any uh youth counselor?

I want to second that a thousand times over.

That was pretty much what I was gonna say verbatim.

Okay, counselor Schlack.

Um are members of the unincorporated area allowed to um participate in TIAC.

Youth Counselor, no.

Kind of.

They are if they are attending a TTSD school.

So if they are not attending a TTSD school, they are not able to.

We are trying to expand to unincorporated areas to follow your wording.

But as of right now, if you are in an unincorporated area and living somewhere like Jesuit, no, you cannot participate in TIAC.

Uh you have to be at a TTSD school.

If you tiger resident.

And a tiger.

You have to be either a tigered resident or a TTSD school.

Oh, so you don't have you don't have to be a tiger resident.

No.

Okay.

But like someone living in an unincorporated area and going to Jesuit could not.

Okay.

Yeah, because they don't meet either one.

So while I'm open to considering changing eligibility requirements for TIAC, I'm utterly opposed to non-residents having uh a point of privilege to deliberate deliberate towards policy decisions that impact the city of Tiger.

Um that's just uh I'm just utterly opposed to that idea.

Counselor Anderson agree or oppose to add non-Tiger resident youth.

So just to clarify, it's not non-Tigered, it's just Tigered and Incorporated.

It's not someone from Beaverton.

Yeah, but they don't live in Tiger.

Right, but it's still that specific set of people.

All right.

I guess my question is do you report back to your fellow students?

And if somebody, a Jesuit would be reporting back to their students that wouldn't really recognize Tiger.

I report back to my fellow students, but not like at a school assembly or whatever.

I report back to my friends and I say, oh my god, did you hear about this?

Because I'm 16.

Um but I wouldn't I don't do like this Wednesday morning, we had this happen last night.

I don't do that for the school.

I just do it as like a personal social thing.

So I don't think the school is really getting anything crazy from me.

I don't think that like Jesuit would be impacted very or like yeah, for example.

You know, there's a bunch of kids in unincorporated area that uh really feel like they're a part of tiger for sure.

Um maybe we should annex them.

But uh before we do that, before we do that, yeah, maybe just include them.

Yeah.

Not include include, okay.

Um, I I do feel like if I understand correctly, if you're unincorporated and you're going to a tiger-based school, you are included because you funnel you you are under that umbrella.

Um so I do think it's a bit of a stretch um to be an unincorporated and then be attending a school outside of our city boundaries.

Okay.

So um I appreciate the student interest, but I um I agree with counselor Schlatt.

Okay.

Counselor Shaw.

Uh thank you, Mayor.

I too agree with Counselor Schlack.

I I think we need to um for the reason stated.

Okay.

And with Council President Wolf.

Counselor Kuducy.

Thank you, Mayor.

I do think that we should expand it, but I think we should expand it to the extent that TIAC is, where if you have somebody in unincorporated that is in TTSD, so there are a lot of kids at Tiger High that are technically unincorporated.

So I think they should have the opportunity.

So that's why you and Counselor Robbins and Council Henderson want.

Yes.

Council Robbins was a little bit more than a question.

I want to clarify.

I I am not certain that this slide is correct.

I believe you could be a tigered youth counselor if you live in Tigered or go to a TTSD school.

That's TIAC, I think.

You must okay.

So thank you.

Um they were different what I said in counselor Robinson said mine was very specifically you should go to a TTSD school, whether or not you're unincorporated is fine.

Okay.

Versus in this example is Jesuit, which is the school in Beaverton, I believe.

So you want you actually want to limit expand it to non-resident, but non-residents who still go to the school.

Correct.

So anyone in so what about someone who lives in Tualbuton?

That will be two.

That's included, because if somebody goes to TTSD in Twilight, that will qualify.

So we'll have three to three and um I uh my my personal feeling is that I agree with Councillor Schlag and Council President Wolf and Councillor Shah, that I do believe that if we're gonna have somebody sitting on the dais, some that person should be a tiger resident.

So the majority of the council is not going to, I'm not willing to change the algebraity.

So it will state the way it is.

All right, so let's talk about the purpose.

Should so the question.

So the questions are should a focus of supporting youth civic engagement be on education rather than a seat in Tesla Council meetings.

Um that's so I start that way, so that's let's go this way.

Um youth counselors, what do you think?

I think that the focus should be supporting youth civic engagement.

Or hold on.

I'm the wording is a little bit confusing.

So go ahead.

Mayor, I don't think that these are mutually exclusive things.

So I don't think it's either education or a seat.

I think that it should be both.

Both.

So asking which one should it be at I don't feel is an appropriate question.

Okay, so let's let me just get to the bottom of this.

Do you think we should have eliminate a youth counselor program and focus on education component instead?

No.

No, okay.

I think that it's an important program.

Um it's helped me a lot.

I haven't personally gotten to speak with any of the other previous youth counselors, but from what I've heard about them in TIAC from talking to Alex and a couple other older members.

It's been a really great program for them too.

And I think that it's important, and I don't think that it's really harming anyone, is my biggest thing.

And I think that it should be kept.

But I think that also there should additionally be some more focus in supporting civic engagement in schools.

So are there so are there um I'm just trying to uh phrase this question?

Um should we consider additional goals and measures uh for the next year to help council evaluate the program's success?

Yeah.

Okay.

I think that that would be good.

All right.

So and counselor Anderson, should we eliminate a youth council program?

Uh I think we probably should keep it.

You know, I've been with three or four of them now.

They've all seem to get pretty good benefit form.

At least the counselor does.

I I don't know how they report back to their peers.

I think there's kind of a missing link there.

So there should be additional goals and measure for the next year that will help evaluate the program.

Okay.

Uh council President Wolf.

Oh no, sorry, I skipped counselor Schlack.

Thank you, Mary.

Uh yes, I would support removing the youth counselor position.

So as some background, I first encountered this program as a budget committee alternate at age 25, and for reference, I turned 29 tomorrow.

Um I sought a seat on the council in part to amplify the voices of younger residents, but I have not seen that this program achieve that goal during my time as a budget committee member and as a city councilor.

Um I also have in-principle concerns about non-elected advisory positions serving directly on an elected governing body.

Council decisions carry real consequences for tiger residents from setting residential fees to appointing a mayor.

Anyone who is given the privilege of deliberating towards those decisions at council meetings should, in my opinion, be accountable to voters.

If community members want more young people on council, then they should elect them.

As I confirmed with the city recorder this morning, council members need to be old enough to be a registered voter, which is at least 18 years old.

If an 18-year-old is elected to council, I would welcome and fully support their service.

And also, frankly, I struggle with to reconcile continuing an age-based advisory seat on council.

When council previously expressed skepticism about age-based positions on other boards and committees.

It just it feels inconsistent to me.

So I would personally support using the resources that we're putting towards the youth counselor program to strengthening TIAC and making that a really great equitable, effective civic engagement program for as many uh residents and non-residents, even TTSD members as possible to learn about local government.

That would be my preference for trying to enable civic engagement about youths.

Thank you, Counselor Schlack.

Uh Councilor President Wolf.

You mute yourself again.

You have mute and me there go.

Um sorry, 17 hour lag.

I support a youth position if we still have students interested.

They're non-voting.

Um, so I feel the accountability is different.

Um, and I think it's a tremendous opportunity for a young person to engage in um the civic debate in the work that we do.

So, you know, clearly I appreciated um Asher's uh feedback, and there's opportunities to grow and strengthen it, but I do support the position.

Thank you.

And I assume you also support having additional goes and measure to measure yeah, okay.

She gives me a thumbs up.

Counselor Shaw.

Uh thank you, Mayor, and thank you to my council prev current counselors and their thoughts.

Um, having been on the council since 2020, uh, there's only one youth counselor I was not able to interact with directly as a counselor, and that was um who had been appointed in 2019 under Mayor Snyder who um proposed this uh youth council position.

I do not believe it has been equitable.

I do not believe that there has been equitable access because it is limited to one individual.

I think those dollars would be better spent going to TIAC and having a TIAC individual or individuals uh among that um TIEAC that they can consider who potentially would go to NLC.

Um I think there would be better reporting back and forth also, so we're not reliant on just one youth counselor to send a message back and forth.

So for those reasons, um I do not support continuing the youth council program, and also I think given budgetary constraints that we have now that the resource allocation uh with staff time and dollars um should be again redirected, and I think we can get a lot more impact if that is an educational component to TIAC.

And also can uh I'm also swayed by the age-based position that counselor Schlack had mentioned.

I do think that is an issue, and as you all know, I've been a proponent of seniors and ensuring that seniors have a voice in the city, and I don't think we've had the same ability for them to have that voice.

So, again, from an equity and access standpoint, I do not support continuing the youth counselor position.

Thank you.

Can I make one further suggestion?

Given that this was the former mayor, Jason Snyder's um idea and his suggestion.

I'm wondering if perhaps there could be a Washington County Commissioner's youth commissioner that he could consider.

So just a thought.

Okay.

Well, maybe we can talk to him when he comes when when he comes to the next update.

Council Goodussi, what do you think?

Thank you, Mayor.

Um, I would support continuing with the uh youth city council position.

Um a few different things.

One, I do think we need to increase the goals and measures.

We need to make it more structured.

In the ideal world, we would work with PCC, create a community-based learning with it and get some college credit for it.

Um, in my opinion, I feel that it is equitable having them here at the table.

If someone is over 55, they can run for city council.

Someone under 18 can not.

So this gives them a voice when they're not able to otherwise.

So, whereas we already have a lot of people that are involved in a lot of our boards and committees that are over 55 just by joining, uh, that's not an option for our youth.

Thank you.

Counselor Robins.

I support keeping the position.

Um I think it can be equitable and then it's an open application and people can apply.

I do think we should advertise more and perhaps try to interface with the school more.

I would be more than happy to work with youth counselor Helleck on some of the ideas that they had in their letter that they sent to us, and um, also just talking to the school, the government teacher there is great, and uh, you know, it's something that we could maybe get more students interested in.

Counselor Shaw.

I really appreciate that, Councilor Robinson.

I know now having done this for four almost five years, um, they've struggled each and every year despite robust communication, robust visits by counselors, direct uh visits by the mayor.

Um, we had zero um individuals who had applied for last year, and it really was um the mayor, former mayor, and council president Wolf, who went to TTSD and made a compelling speech, but it was also post-the deadline.

So again, and I know the first after the resolution passed in 2019, they had just received five applicants.

So it's been robust communication and activity from both staff and counselors, but it just has been limited in the amount of individuals who applied.

And if you look at TIAC, there's well over what 30 or 40 folks on TIEC.

So we're doing something right there.

Thank you.

Just to if I could just reply to that quickly.

Just to if I could just reply to that quickly, I do know that junior and senior year are very, very busy years for the students, and it might be difficult to choose to spend that time every week here when you're not getting something that I mean, I guess you are getting something something to put on your resume, something to do for college applications, but you're not getting college credit, you're not getting anything like that.

And so perhaps we use this next year while we are re-evaluating to talk.

I know Cornelius has a robust youth program and Beaverton has a program and just kind of explore what makes those programs more popular, if they are more popular.

Counselor Schlack.

Thank you.

And I I appreciate where Councillor Robbins is coming from.

And uh yes, Beaverton Cornelius have very robust youth um civic engagement programs.

They also do not have youth counselor programs, it should be noted.

Um I think um what I'm taking away from this is that there are a lot of counselors who want to continue the youth counselor program, and yet despite year after year trying to get students to be interested in it, they're not really biting at this point.

So I I respect that the council, if a majority of the council wants to do a one-year pilot refinement program.

I just really wonder um if we just sit down and think about it and look at the data and look at the history, is this really gonna work, or are we just doing this because frankly we're all really nice people who don't want to say no to continuing a program that has nice people involved?

That's frankly where I'm coming from based or what I'm hearing from from my colleagues on here.

And if that's the way it is, it's majority viewpoint.

I respect that.

But um I I seriously question the judgment behind it.

Well, thank you, Counselor Schlack.

I think what I'm hearing is that whether you are you want to continue this program or you don't, I think all of us value um youth involvement in local government.

We just want to figure out a better way of doing it, right?

So I don't want people to get that wrong idea that we don't want youth engagement.

We're just trying to figure out what's the best way of doing it, given our past history of having difficulty getting recruitments, uh having youth interested, and um you know, and also we couldn't get past youth counselors' feedback on what could be done better.

So I think um the majority has decided we want to continue, and I think this is a good opportunity for us to really sit down and evaluate and really grab some data because I think we are missing some data from previous youth counselors.

So um I will propose um so we are continuing.

So maybe we can propose may I will propose maybe a subcommittee to to really drill down on study on focus on this issue, such as how can we make it more make our advertisement or recruitment process more successful so we have more youth um apply.

So what what have what have been the past challenge?

Maybe the subcommittee can how figure out and what are the goals and measurements in the past in the next year that we really want to see.

So you know, we can come back in a year later um and and we can have this discussion again that okay, here are the goal and matrix, and here's what the subcommittee recommended.

Do we need it or not?

If not, maybe there are better ways to help youth engaging civil gov in local government.

So um I don't know if you are open to that kind of motto.

No?

Okay.

Okay.

No, counselor Godussi?

Counselor Rodin.

Counselor President Wolf.

So the slide is the big screen, so virtually, I'm just curious.

I haven't, I didn't hear.

I think that was who were nods, so I'm just curious what the trend is on council for a subcommittee.

Uh I think uh counselor Schlag and Counselor Shaw didn't do not want to see that.

And counselor Anderson, Godusi and Robbins are in support of that idea.

Go ahead.

Um what Council President Wolf.

Okay, thank you.

Um well, I think and I I would as well.

Um, and I want to be mindful of staff time, but of the four of us that want to see this as an option, if three out of four of us could be you know the subcommittee to try to explore that, recognizing the you know, resources required of staff, but surely there's a way we could um kind of pursue how do we uh do this better in the future and set clear goals.

So I I would support the Acting City Manager Trish, do you have an input?

Because it does require staff time to set goals and you know metrics.

So yes, absolutely.

I think if we uh define exactly uh what we want to cover and within what time period we can have just a focus investment uh of effort, and perhaps the sooner the better.

Uh our team uh starts to pivot towards uh summer activities and ramping up for uh busy season.

So um my recommendation is uh perhaps a uh uh four to six-week focused task uh to develop uh refine the program, take some of the suggestions we heard, and we can also uh get into more detail about how we've uh marketed and um recruited for this program and and and get council's feedback there too.

Okay.

So go ahead, counselor Shaw.

Yeah, I'm wondering, we have uh a staff recommendation.

It was just to sunset the youth council role.

We also have staff that have been working on this program for four to five years, and I'm wondering if we can't hear from them as opposed to setting up yet another subcommittee.

Okay, which we are in we've got some budget challenges coming up.

I I don't know if we need to yet again have another subcommittee.

We have several currently right now.

So I would recommend I'd like to look to staff who have the expertise here who know what we've done from a communication standpoint and a recruitment standpoint, and perhaps what we could do is hear from them, and then we can prior to make it a subcommittee.

All right, um go ahead, Councilor Robins.

Do we have a staff recommendation to sunset the proposal?

The AIS uh staff recommendations.

I recommend we we sunset the program.

And put the money towards uh broader civic education initiative.

And that the TIEAC chair come to um workshop meetings like the Tiger High School Envoy to provide that connection.

I mean, there's there is a thought-out staff recommendation to achieve the goal of civic education among our youths in Tiger.

That is an alternative to the youth counselor program.

Um I I think it's a really well thought out one, and I fully support that option for achieving that council goal.

I do not support continuing the current program.

We have a majority of the council who can support continuing the program.

So we have to figure out you know those issues that we've been facing and and and goals and metrics.

So may I make a suggestion?

So uh following on the uh I think Councilor Shaw's recommendation uh to to hear from uh this staff involved in the program, uh, we'd be happy to develop a memo uh and then attach it to these meeting materials and that uh memo can give a the staff perspective um in the program and perhaps provide a recommendation to how we might go forward uh from there, council can uh let us know if you'd like that to come back before you.

Does that seem reasonable?

Okay, we'll see hand not uh council president Wolf, you raise your hand.

Thank you, Mayor.

Yeah, I did.

And you know, um if willing, um I can flip my decision.

I disagree with I mean I mean, fundamentally, I think it's a great an opportunity for an individual, but that's just my own background.

Uh but I also want to just recognize um limited resources, and so if that solves this problem, it seems like we talk about a lot of things and need to add it to a future conversation, and so I can flip and just call this you know moving forward as is.

So based on staff recommendation.

Counselor Schlack.

I agree with Council President Wolf if the um solution is to support the staff recommendation in full, which is sunsetting the current youth counselor program and improving strengthening the TIAC uh program and its relationship with council.

Uh council council president Wolf, if that's what you're saying, then I'm in full agreement.

Yeah, I don't like it, but because I I just think it's the right thing to do.

I I just we we add a lot of requests, move it down the road, and I I think we just I I'm fine with just supporting staff and their recommendation.

Okay, and then I think that flips the majority uh the right uh I haven't I haven't expressed my opinion yet, so go ahead.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but if I'm reading the information right, it says council is asked to provide direction on the youth counselor program, either establish my measurable goals.

All right, never mind.

I'm done.

It's fine.

Well, I think it's come down to me again.

And um I again I just want to mention emphasize again that the decision we're making today is not you know about any particular person, and all we want to do is just encouraging youth engagement in local government in a more meaningful way.

So that's the majority.

Okay.

All right.

Any other comments or discussion?

Seeing none.

All right.

There being no further business, the meeting is adjourned.

Good night, Tiger.