I'll call to order the agenda review of March 10th 2026.

Court, please call the role.

Hobbs here.

Jones, here.

Come here.

Here.

Martinez.

Present.

McPherson.

Meldon.

Here.

Morris here.

Saranto.

Williams here.

Driscoll?

Here.

Gaddis?

Yeah.

The first item is from Toledo Municipal Court.

Good afternoon.

Thank you very much for having us here today.

In January, the clerk's office solicited bids for the bulk printing of our case file folders through planet bid.

We received two bids at that time.

The lowest bid was from Friends Office LLC.

At this time, we are asking council to pass the ordinance that has been placed before you authorizing the clerk's office to enter into an agreement with Friends Office LLC to purchase case file folders for 2026 for 10,000 one hundred and twenty dollars.

The funds are budgeted in line item five two one six zero zero, which is our outside printing line item.

And we thank you for consideration in this matter, and we are requesting SEP.

Any questions?

Thank you.

Authorizing the expenditure of fifty thousand from the law enforcement trust fund.

This program assists victims of violent crime as they go through the criminal justice process to the prosecution of their offender.

There are no impacts on the general fund, and we are requesting SEP.

SEP, please.

Would you like me to jump into number two?

Please thank you so much.

I'm so sorry.

Oh no, yeah.

Item number two is authorizing the mayor to enter into a grant agreement with the Ohio Department of Transportation for the Drones for First Responders program.

This authorizes the acceptance and deposit of an amount not to exceed two hundred and fifty thousand and the appropriation and expenditure of set amount from the operations grant fund.

Uh waiving the competitive bidding requirements as ODOT has undertaken a competitive bidding selection and evaluation process that I identified the qualified drone and vendors.

And we are requesting SEP for this, please.

I'm sorry.

Consulwan McKramer.

Thank you.

Sorry.

Thank you, Chair.

Can you explain how the drones work?

I know it says that the flight paths are published on the TBD site, but how are they activated?

How can we make sure that they are just going to the places where we need them and they're not kind of surveilling our residents?

Yes, ma'am, I'll be happy to answer that.

So the drone for first responder program, uh the drone will be directly linked to our CAD system.

Uh its main and only mission is to respond to calls of service.

So upon being dispatched, it will have a direct flight to that location.

Uh once it's done with that call, it can either respond to another call if another priority call comes in, or it will return back to its docking station.

So its whole purpose and uh the guidelines that are already uh put into place for this program is it's strictly for call to respond to calls for service.

And so they will respond and then crews will know then they need to come out after that.

Like, can you explain that how that process works?

Yes, ma'am.

So yes, depending on what the nature of the call is, uh that there are going to be times where uh the drone will get there first, uh, many times actually, and depending on what the drone the pilot is able to observe it's happening on that particular scene, they'll be able to communicate with the crews that are responding uh and let them know whether they need to continue in route to that call or if it's a call that could possibly be cleared or you know uh taken care of just by observation through the drone.

So, yes, uh, in an instance where a crew is going to continue to respond the drone, uh the pilot who's operating the drone will be able to communicate in real time immediately over the radio and give that crew updates on what they're observing.

I have one more question, sorry.

Um do we have people who will be able to pilot those drones, or are that uh positions we'll have to fill?

Yes, ma'am.

We already have those pilots in place.

We have six pilots right now for the department, and they will be working uh various shifts to cover a 24-7 operation.

Thank you very much.

Um Councilman Sarantsu.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um how many drones do we have now?

We do have the flock drone, sir that we use.

Okay.

And that and that's uh similar to what this program is that uh it responds to calls for service.

Okay.

So these are this is for uh legislations for two additional, so that means we'll have three.

Yes, sir, as it stands now, yes.

All right.

And and these drones are also designed to protect our men and women of the police department, correct?

Yes, we uh the term we use is uh a force multiplier is uh how we view the drone.

It's the ability for the drone just in this past month alone.

Uh the drone has been able to clear 12 calls on its own uh without uh patrol personnel being present.

So it is an ability for us to respond to the citizens faster and uh come in and allow the officers that are still uh working other incidents to be able to uh know that they don't need to respond to that particular call.

And in general, what determines when you're gonna use a drone?

It depends on what the priority of the call will be and then on what the call volume is at that at that moment in time.

The pilot can uh is will be the one who dispatches the drone sometimes, uh, and they'll be the one making the decision.

Okay.

Great.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Councilmember Gaddis.

Thanks, Chair.

Is there a length that they can go?

I know that they often travel in my district, but I didn't know if they could go like all the way to the Michigan line, like how far can they go?

So sorry to cut you off.

Yes, ma'am.

So right now the particular vendor that we've identified, the range of their drone is uh in ideal conditions.

That's just now you know, uh no wind, anything kind of like that, uh, any adverse weather conditions.

It's about a three to three and a half mile range.

Okay.

And then are these a different model than the one we have previously?

Yes, ma'am, they are.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you, Chair.

Councilman Martina.

I mean, uh yes, councilman Martinez.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Uh so I had the privilege of going to tour their um drone pilots in their site right across the street.

Very, very cool.

If you don't get the opportunity, please go visit them.

Uh it was a kind of a cold windy day, but we were able to get the drone up and kind of see what was happening.

Um it's been a valuable uh asset to the TPD from all my conversations I've had with various different uh officers and the pilots.

And one of the things that it does is it seems to be able to at least have eyes on a contentious situation and kind of give real-time uh reporting to the officers on the ground, kind of where things are going, if they need assistance or anything like that, and kind of can help calm some of the uh radio chatter if uh officer can't get to his uh radio quickly.

So I unfortunately district two does not fly all the way to district two.

I would love to be able to have a a uh what I would refer to as a harassing drone for speeders where you can yell at them to slow down, but I don't think that's in the cards.

But uh I'm a big advocate for the drones um just to see and just uh on a service-only type of response, and it's a first come first service with my understanding, uh based on priority.

Um so it's not just out randomly looking for trouble.

It's if we if the officers or safety officers need assistance, they can request it in, or even with the uh metro parks uh in case they're uh missing anything, or they need some assistance to get some eyes and ears on it.

So I am big advocate for the drones and you have my full support on this.

But again, I would encourage all my colleagues to go in uh visually see um the the uh command um corner, I'll call it, and see how we you know deploy the drones.

And it's really maybe this big, not not very big, and it's kind of like what you see on videos and stuff like that, and it's non-payload, so I mean you can't carry anything, and it's literally just a camera kind of helping our our uh officer.

So I just want to put my two cents on, and then you have my full support on this.

Thank you.

Thank you, Consident Melton.

Thank you, sir.

Uh quick quick question about the the pilot program.

You know, I I read like I think you know, statewide evaluation of the F efficacy.

How will we know if it's effective or not?

When will we get to hear back the results of that pilot program?

Tell me about some of that.

It feels like a bit of an ODAT research project in a way.

So its main mission is is data collecting.

There's a division within ODOT called uh Drive Ohio, and they're the ones who are actually overseeing this project.

Um they've uh uh employed a couple different analyst programs that are gonna help uh along the way.

And as it's set up now, there's ourselves and eight other agencies that were selected for this program out of the over 100 that applied for it.

And right now, while we're still in kind of the infancy stages of things, we're having weekly meetings to where we can all share ideas and different things that we've uh you know encountered during this process.

And then from there, there's uh there's designated meeting times that will occur.

There's gonna be a monthly one-on-one check-in with uh ODOT, and then there's also gonna be a quarterly technical interchanging meeting that happens uh that uh is gonna be mandatory to re as part of the program to receive this grant funding.

So we are going to be sharing information with them.

The information if you're asking what it is in particular, it's gonna be call data, drone telemetry, uh, safely uh program administration data, FAA reporting data, and there's gonna be a data portal called Air Data, which actually just really just flight logs for the for the drone itself.

Uh and their ultimate goal goal is to uh figure out a way to they can uh work with local airports to make sure that uh uncrewed aircraft such as a drone uh they know where they are.

Yeah.

I'm curious too about like the the future, and I I don't ever want anyone to get out their crystal ball and then commit to something, so that's not what I'm asking you to do.

But where's this technology, where is it headed?

Where are we going with this?

What are some opportunities for us?

Um this is uh pilot program with a kind of a third-party funding, you know, partner.

But what about us, our operations, your strategy, Chief, as I think about what you know what is what is policing look like with tools like this five, ten, fifteen years from now.

Yeah, so it just in the last couple of years, the drone landscape has changed dramatically, and I anticipate that that's gonna continue to evolve, um, getting better, faster, uh longer battery life, all those things are gonna happen.

For the police department and for me, I've been pushing uh drones as a first responder for the last couple of years now.

And luckily we had an opportunity to do a pilot program with Flock.

Unfortunately, that is going to be coming to an end here shortly.

So this is perfect timing for us to receive this 250,000 dollars in grant funding to continue the the program when we know the budgets that we're facing right now.

So this actually works out really well for us.

For me, um as uh Sergeant Neighbors has said, it most definitely is a force multiplier.

Um it allows us to do more with less officers out there, but it also provides that element of safety for our officers being on scene overhead, letting them know you know the threats that they're facing.

Um also when vehicles are fleeing.

We've had several success stories with our flock drones from being, you know, recovering drones or excuse me, recovering guns from shots fired calls to you know witnessing uh house stripping and able to coordinate a response to get our officers on scene and immediately apprehend the suspect that didn't turn into a violent uh encounter and or pursuit in a vehicle.

So those things are all um what our future for law enforcement is.

These are things that I think that is going to make us safer, uh make our community safer.

It allows us to extend our patrols.

This particular grant allows us to put uh more drones in more locations.

Um so we're gonna see the lion's share of our city covered with these drones.

So we're gonna have the ability to respond to uh you know, out into West Toledo, South Toledo areas that we currently don't have uh operating with only one drone system.

So for me, this is definitely something for the future of a department.

Uh I envision every police department having a DFR program.

Well, I appreciate that.

I asked the, I think I asked the future facing question because I don't know.

I mean, I think most of us are a huge proponent of technology.

I think technology on its best day makes us better and more efficient and more capable.

Um and then there's concerns, right?

Um I just want to also just draw attention for my colleagues and for everyone that this is a this is the perfect example of where the responsible AI strategy comes into play.

When you think about a program like this, what are the particular guardrails?

And I'm not even saying artificial intelligence is actually involved in this pilot, so that's not what I'm suggesting.

But the next one and the the program after that and the program after that, it probably will be if it's not already.

It's it's just continuing to grow and evolve.

And what is our strategy and kind of as a municipality public serving entity?

What are the guardrails?

How how comfortable are we with uh an artificial intelligence version of a program like this?

I think that's really interesting.

So that will come out later this year, and this is just it just it just screams like it's important for us to be to be ready.

So I appreciate those uh those answers.

Thanks, Chair.

Thank you, Councilman Sarantsu.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

A couple of follow-up questions.

Uh is the drone operable in all types of weather.

Uh yes, sir, it is.

It can uh operate as as cold as temperatures as negative uh 20 degrees all the way up to temperatures as high as 115 degrees.

Okay.

And then um what about nighttime?

Yes, it's uh is nighttime it has a spotlight on it as well.

So if you need to utilize the spotlight.

So if it's surveying a totally dark area with no lights on, it's able to give you information.

Well, if we're responding to a call for service, we're not surveying.

If we respond to a call for service, yes, we can utilize that spotlight to illuminate the area.

Yes.

And do our any of our other suburban departments have drones?

Yes, we know uh Rossford and Perrysburg are in a partnership, and they have uh a drone by the same vendor that we're also thinking that we're gonna go in our drones.

We'll be subject to mutual aid if called upon.

Yes.

So our particular DFR is tougher for mutual aid because there is a limited uh I guess uh radius it that it can cover.

So it pretty much covers the city of Toledo, it doesn't go outside the city of Toledo.

Obviously, we do have other drones um that are launched from the ground that are we do use for mutual aids.

Okay.

And then on the flock license plate readers, those are continuing, correct?

That is correct.

That is a completely separate program.

Oh right.

Okay.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Councilwoman Jones.

Thank you, Chair.

Um, so since this is a pilot program, after the two years, do we own those drones after some time?

Okay.

And as far as the maintenance is concerned, like let's say you know something breaks or it runs into something, what is how what is the cost of that?

During the life of the two-year program, everything is covered.

Okay.

Okay.

It's prepaid.

The program will run until uh June 30th of 2028.

Okay.

And actually, in the same line as my colleague in regards to data.

So this is just to feed or just support the notion of using drones within the line of service.

So that's what just further supporting it so this can continue on, basically with the payment.

Okay.

All right.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, Chair.

What are you asking for?

SEP.

SEP, thank you.

Item three comes from Department of Fire and Rescue Operations, please.

Good afternoon, members of council.

Uh my name is Assistant Chief John Kaminsky, and with me today is Deputy Chief Riddle Franklin.

We were in front of you back in 2022 for similar uh similar ordinance, similar legislation.

At that time it was just basic life support billing is that we're looking to go into contract for.

This modifies that and includes ALS billing and our opportunity to go out for bid and to enter in a contract.

So today we sit in front of you with legislation to authorize the mayor to accept competitive proposals and enter into a contract for advanced life support and basic life support transport billing and collection services authorizing the acceptance and deposit of revenues into the general fund authorizing expenditure of funds and declaring an emergency and right now we are requesting SEP and welcome any questions that you may have for us.

Councilwoman Morris thank you thank you Chair.

Thank you for uh giving us this briefing um my question to you is is this then earmarked within the general fund to continue emergency response or is this just going to anything so when we get the billing when we get the money in will it stay in any kind of an emergency response tab I guess is the question.

No the those funds that are recovered go directly to um the city's uh general fund we do not that it doesn't we get we do not get to use that for any type of uh fire related costs or expenses well the the thing that I I guess worries me a little bit is that um you know I don't know the percentage you guys do uh percentage of fire runs versus emergency runs that that the department is doing now it's very high and so I know that we're kind of in this transition time you know coming from the the county um now we are are running this and um supplies equipment personnel uh and just uh I just concerned that maybe this could be a little bit of a funding vehicle for you or for the department um because it seems like the need is there so I I guess I'm just putting that out there thank you thank you asked requesting SEP SEP please thank you public service and department of public utilities will be right after them good afternoon chairman and council Sarah Stacy Commissioner of Urban Beautification we are requesting legislation to authorize an expenditure not to exceed 25,000 from the Nu Sense abatement trust fund this is for emergency repair work related to 3032 Warsaw Street this legislation will also authorize the mayor to enter into contracts and waives competitive bidding requirements of TMC chapter 187 and we are requesting SEP please Councilmember Colmives I'm sorry Council Ms.

Thank you Mr.

Chair specifically what kind of work are we uh going to be having done it relates to the emergency repairs of what uh at this uh site next to 3032 Warsaw okay all right and is this something that our own uh personnel could be doing rather than contracting it out it was utility work so it was not something our crews could perform okay all right just want to make sure I'd like to always use our own workforce if possible because I think we save money in the long run we do a lot of outside contracting in the city and uh we just need to exercise good judgment and save some money when we can thank you thank you Mr.

Chair Councilmember Gaddis Thanks Chair is there a timeline when this gets passed how long do uh do we have figured out how it's how long is it going to take to repair?

Uh should uh be completed within the next couple of weeks okay final repairs.

Okay thank you so much thank you Chair Councilmember Carl Mives.

And he and I will do the next three, and then we'll stay up here and then we'll do the two following.

Thank you.

Good afternoon.

Item number five on today's agenda is uh to allow to provide funding for keep that up to it.

Okay.

Um so the um chemical funding for bulk chemicals at the water treatment plant and the water reclamation facility.

Um and this is just a short-term measure until the full budget is released uh because both plants have to maintain minimum inventories of the treatment chemicals, both for the treatment purposes and per Ohio EPA regulations.

Um the regulations require a 30-day inventory, and we are approached, we are um dipping below or approach, or we will be dipping below that inventory soon uh without this legislation.

I would take any questions and ask SEP.

Councilwoman Morris.

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you, Andy.

Um I am curious if we can get a list of the chemicals and the amounts and the price.

I'd like to see a little bit more um information about what we're spending.

This is a lot of money, and I just like to have a little bit more um description um of what it is uh what we're we're purchasing.

Um we'll take that as a referral, but there are just four chemicals that we're requesting for water treatment.

And is that chlorine would be water recording?

And then and then the chlorine for one for water reclamation.

I'll put in an I'll put in a referral because I would would like to see you know how much are we buying, what is that price?

I'd kind of like to see how long does that last.

Um is this kind of regulated by you know EPA or whomever it is, and you know, just to kind of give us a better understanding, because bulk chemical funding, I just like to know a little bit more.

Okay, thank you.

Councilman Saratsu.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I just want to follow up on Councilwoman Morris's uh issues.

How often do we buy chemicals for the water plant?

Is it once a year or more frequently?

It it's uh it goes on on a continuous basis.

Uh we have uh like the lime for softening is delivered, if not daily, you know, several deliveries per week.

Um yeah, five deliveries per week.

Um chlorine is another big one.

Uh and chlorine, like the water reclamation facility, because of the nature of the chemical, they don't store it over the winter when they don't have to feed it, but they have to build up inventory because um by April 1st they have to start feeding uh disinfecting the wastewater again because there's a chance of recreational contact with the uh Maumee River.

Um so yeah, no, most of the uh significant portion of the chemicals are just uh routine uh basis, routine uh deliveries on either daily or you know weekly basis.

Okay.

All right, thank you very much.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Councilmember Gaddis.

Thanks, Chair.

Do you know where we source them from?

Like, is it something that's made within the U.S.?

Or is it something that's made abroad?

I know with some of the things happening outside of the country.

There's been um uh predicted uh uh issues in the future, so I just want to make sure we're not gonna not have enough, right?

Sure.

Um well I know that the line for softening comes from Canada.

There have not been any tariffs on that yet.

Um we did have to go, we did have to put out a new contract for fluoride um because that that pricing was impacted by um tariffs.

It's not, I feel like I'm talking about drugs when I talk about fluoride.

It used to be made in the United States, but the good stuff comes from Belgium, and you can also get it from China.

So um we did have to renegotiate, or that that did require a new contract.

Um aluminum sulfate used to be made locally, now it's only now we're only kind of a wholesale area, but alum is made in the United States, um, soda, most of the other chemicals are made within the United States.

And fluoride, Florida's one that during through the pandemic, we really had to work hard uh to maintain stock in the uh carbon dioxide is also uh impacted sometimes by other by other industries, because it's technically a byproduct of some processes, but the liquid CO2 is sometimes occasionally difficult to uh uh acquire, and they will they will issue a force measure, but they also stock us up.

That would that one we have we can have sixty or ninety days of storage if we need to.

Okay.

All right, thank you so much.

Thank you, Chair.

Councilman Martinez.

Councilman Martinez let's do first read assuming you get uh the referral back in time I'll do SCP.

So item number six.

All right number six um as you're aware there's a a facility plan being implemented at the Bayview Water Reclamation Facility.

Um in this legislation is simply to allow us to apply for loans for projects as they come up there is a list of loans um as part of the bullets for this oh no there's this with the loans is available um but this does not oh can you all right there we go yes so um and this does not alleviate the need to come to council when we actually have to um acquire the loan this is simply to apply for the loan um and then as we go through bidding processes and know what the the how much money we need for the loan then we would have to come back to council to appropriate and expend those funds we would ask SEP.

Councilman Sarantsu thank you Mr.

Chair so um are you saying that you still will have to come back to council each time you apply for a loan or is this blanket authorization?

No this we we have to apply for loan um but then before we can enter into the contract for the loan we would have to come back to council.

So you'll you'll know the cost of the you know whatever the project is going to be at that point in time.

So each and every loan application will be we will be notified here at council and we'll have to take a vote on that yeah prior to contract award.

Okay.

I am not an engineer by any stretch of the imagination even though Councilman Meldon has uh accused me of that um but in all seriousness here's a question.

Um I can't let you be the only one making jokes.

So here's the question I have I I have been told by well educated people that the plans for the water wreck plant uh that the size of that is almost equivalent to the city of Houston, Texas.

And I'm wondering why do we have to have to have such a large water wreck facility if we're a community of say 5000 customers or people that we serve.

Is there an answer for that I'm not familiar with the Houston uh wastewater plan or their processes um but yeah I would have to take that by referral for but it's yeah I'll make a referral and I also would ask is it possible for council to see the Arcadus report that basically recommended what we should be doing in terms of the Bayview water wreck plant yeah yeah of course we can do that.

Okay I'll ask for that also and I think all members of council should see it due to the um huge uh price that we just want to make sure that we're uh and on top of that.

I will add I don't know how much um Houston would be influenced by I and I also I'm sorry inflow and infiltration.

So when it rains uh the flow is really spike at Bayview and so even though we might chug along at 60 million gallons per day most of the time when it rains really hard I I believe the report said they're up over 130 million gallons per day just over the weekend from rainfall.

Okay.

All right I'll make that by way of referral on the issue of the size of the plant and how it compares to the city of Houston, Texas as well as um the other matter.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Councilwoman Morris.

I would also like to see a um what we submit to um this um entity and the OEPA about this proposal and I'll put that as a referral too.

Thank you.

All right thank you.

Councilman Martinez SCP.

Item number seven uh number seven is uh appropriation for construction of a well at the low service pumping station uh when the most recent major improvements were completed at the low service pumping station uh which is located nine miles east of Toledo at the end of Yondota Road.

It's more trouble-free than trying to use the uh lake water.

However, it does come at a cost.

And in water metered water to see of Oregon is approaches 200,000 per year.

Construction as well will allow us to reduce the bulk of that water and reduce the meter, the we're paying for that water significantly, and really the return on investment for this well project is going to be less than two years.

So we would ask for SEP, and if you have any questions.

Thank you.

Will this add on to the timeline?

This project to the overall.

Oh no, this is part of the water treatment plant projects.

This is not affiliated.

This is not associated with water reclamation.

Okay.

This is for this for the the low service pumping station that's pumping water from the lake into the water treatment plant for treatment.

In my district that we're currently working on.

Actually, all the work is going to be completed out in Jerusalem Township at the low service pumping station.

Okay.

And the completion date of that project?

So at our low service pump station that's close to the intake.

Currently, we um get water from the city of Oregon.

So we get a water bill, we collect water.

So this project is so that we can avoid doing that and utilize water that we can process.

Do you know how much of a savings this will save us yearly?

Yeah.

The 200,000.

Yeah, it will approach 200,000 per year.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you, Councilman Martinez.

SCP.

Item number eight.

From uh Toledo Lucas County Plan Commission.

Good afternoon, Council Lisa Catrell, Ryan Sunvold with the Toledo Plan Commission, Toledo Lucas County Plan Commission, sorry.

So the uh proposed legislation is to accept our annual planning grant from Lucas County in the amount of 275,000.

So allow us to continue uh providing planning services to the 11 townships.

Uh the amount is studied status quo for the last couple years.

We did get a an increase a few years ago to allow us to expand our services, and we have done so.

Um we do process about 100, 140 cases to the county a year.

Just to give you uh uh comparison in the city, it's more like 2,000.

So the amount we have is is is pretty appropriate for the work we do in the county.

Um we are requesting SEP.

Councilwoman Morris.

SEP, please.

Items nine and two.

Let service to do that.

All right.

Um item nine um is to present a loan um that is a partial grant match uh for replacing lead service water lines uh in the city.

The buts the replacement will be effective as part of engineering projects.

Engineering services will handle this, and as they're doing road improvements or water line improvements, sewer improvements, whenever they encounter lead service line, this this um loan and grant will be used to fund that.

Um this is being done under the same sim similar program uh as we've already done, where we get um bids from contractors and those contracts will be called um at the time when it's when there's a lead service line needs replaced.

Uh we would request SEP.

I mean are there any questions?

One question I have is is how much how much more do we know how many more lines need to be replaced or how much more needs to be done?

It's you know, and thank you for your due diligence.

We've done this for a while, but I was just wondering like do we know what we have left?

There's years worth.

It yeah, the it's it's a yeah, there's years where there's a lot of years.

Years, yes, yes, years worth still to do.

Between the the city side that's out in the street and then private.

Um we're also currently working on daycares as well.

We have separate funding.

Councilwoman McPherson.

Thank you, Councilman Hobbs.

On the lead lines, um, weren't we working on residential lead lines?

Yeah, this is residential lead lines.

Um the the difference is this will be done as part of as they're constructing improved other improvements and they encounter the lead lines, they'll be replaced.

And these would be any of the projects that engineering services normally completes.

Okay.

With another two million dollars because didn't we do lead line replacements and we approve money through the ARPA dollars to get that done?

Yes, we did.

And so we still doing this?

Yes.

Are we referring to it?

Yeah.

Private or public.

This one will be private and public.

The each each water service connection has a private side and the public side.

So the the private side is from the valve to the residents, the business, the you know, whatever the child care facility and the public side is between that that valve and the water main.

Okay.

Because we did the whole thing, what it was a year ago, and we were out doing homes with the lead lines, and we did the whole campaign thing and all of that, and so you're saying we're still we're still doing that and we need more money to do that?

Yes, that's true.

Oh, thank you, Councilman Martinez.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Um, I'll defer to Council President Williams, and then I'll I'll go.

I think she was before me.

Council President Martinez.

Um that's crazy, you forgot my name.

Uh when he switched it.

That's crazy.

We see a picture of me right there in your face, my name.

No, I'm joking.

Um, so uh just real quick to clarify this is a grant to continue to do the lead line replacement, correct?

On the pri it's a grant from EPA, right?

It yes, but it's a matching grant.

It's a matching grant back.

Okay.

Um all the infrastructure is so old, we couldn't do everything with uh in that time that we did it.

We did the private side with the ARPA dollars.

That was the um I think that's where it's confused confusion.

The ARPA dollars were used for the private side um to so that the homeowner didn't have to pay for it.

This is a grant to extend that work um in more neighborhoods, and most of the private side was done in impoverished neighborhoods first.

So that's why we're continuing on.

So it is a situation where this is a grant that we can um use to continue on with that work, which we need to do with this aging infrastructure.

So I'm I'm excited that we actually are getting this grant to continue this work.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Council President Williams.

Councilman Martinez.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

So I I just want to make sure I I understand because I think this is probably a unique way of doing this.

This is in conjunction with construction projects.

Yes.

So typically when we would do this, so we'll use River Road for example, River Road we completely redone, and then we would go back, have to tear it up to add lead lines if we found them.

Is that correct?

Correct.

So this would be actually working with ahead of instead of being reactive to.

Is that correct?

Assumption?

Yes.

Right.

So we're able to go in, do the residential side, then we can do the road reconstruction and actually save us money so we don't have to go back tear up what we just did that we've been doing for decades.

Yes.

So all the roadway and water line projects the engineering services will be doing, they have the money to also remove the lead at the time.

So this is actually a good coordination between DPU and transportation to save taxpayer dollars.

Yes.

Correct?

All right, want to make sure I I clarify.

Thank you.

Thank you, Councilwoman McPherson.

Thank you.

I just I was just clarifying because when we did the 10 million dollars for lead lines, and it was stated that they didn't use it all, and we moved some of that money around, and so that's that that that's my concern.

Because now we're looking at this and we're saying we still had that to do, and we could have had that done or continued with the 10 million that we appointed with the ARPA dollars.

That's that's why I was just like, wow.

Now we need more money, and um I was confused.

I'm just concerned because we didn't use it.

And that's what it was for.

It was placed for lead lines to replace lead lines that when we went out to the streets and we were doing all of that, we had said that we had allocated ten million dollars for that.

Councilman Driscoll.

Uh SEP, thank you.

Item number 10.

All right, item number 10 is to appropriate funds um to perform a study on how to best replace uh what is referred to as the crosstown water main.

Um might be familiar with the cross town water main.

This is where we had a problem out in front of the museum a couple of weeks ago, and then recently repaired a long-standing leak on boy, not Woodruff.

Yeah.

Yeah, on on Woodruff.

So the this this water main was installed in 1941 at the same time as our raw water mains, which we currently have a project to replace.

Um so this this study will not um physically replace any of them, but because of the area it's in and the complicated nature of the potential construction, uh the intent of the study is to find and and implement new technologies to find the best route and make a recommendation for how to replace that crosstown, functionally replace the crosstown main.

Um we do need national expertise to work on this, and then it will eventually lead into a project um a couple years later uh once we have the study completed.

And uh I would request SEP.

I'll take any questions you have right now.

Councilman Driscoll.

SEP.

Thank you.

We will have two resolutions in attendance.

We have um both from Councilwoman McPherson, a resolution recognizing Stephanie Cannard in celebration of women's history month, and recognizing Trevor Diane Thomas Black in celebration of women's history month.

We have appointments from the Office of the Mayor, we have a reappointment to the Port of Zoning Appeals, a reappointment to the Electrical Board of Controls, an appointment to the municipal Gulf Preservation and Engagement Commission, an appointment to the community reinvestment area housing council, and appointments to the tax incentive review council.

Under second read items, we have ordinance 60-26 appropriation from various funds for customer assistance grant program for utilities customers, hundred thousand.

Councilman Martinez.

Thank you, uh Chairman Hobbs.

Um Petika Director Patica.

Director Bannister.

Ms.

Banneker.

Yep.

Bannister, Ms.

Bannister.

Can you get I just had a quick question?

So my my thought is to throw this in committee until we get a comprehensive strategy on turnoffs.

Sorry, Councilman.

Director, I'm sorry.

I I had one more question for you.

You went too fast.

So last agenda review was revealed that the hundred thousand dollars was given back, uh, that it wasn't needed, and then the concern was about um the reason it wasn't needed is because we weren't turning water off, so therefore we just gave it back to the the general fund, correct?

Yes.

So my thought is to throw this in the committee, since I I think we probably owe it to have a hearing on a comprehensive turn off strategy once we're satisfied that there is indeed a strategy in place, then we can release these funds.

I but I didn't want to make sure that you didn't have people in the wind waiting for this funding to assist them.

And I know you're like brand new on the job, so I don't want to put you uh in uh an uh predicament.

We can wait for a um council meeting and we're prepared for whenever you set that meeting.

So you guys already have a strategy and you're ready to present not this week, but yes.

Okay, so early next month we could have a hearing.

Okay, I will get it on the calendar, work with your office to get it uh uh a presentation, and then once the presentation is made, we can then review and release the funds if necessary.

Okay.

All right.

Thank you, ma'am.

I am sorry that I caught you on your way out.

Oh no, that's fine.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Councilman Sarato.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Also, Deputy Director, on March 25th, we're going to have a finance committee hearing at 4 o'clock.

I would also like a presentation from the Department on the Progress of DPU collections on past due customers, where we're at, how much we've collected and so forth, as we've done back in uh January.

We'll make sure you get a notice for the meeting.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Thank you.

Councilwoman McPherson.

I'm sorry.

Um, just the question on number 10 on the uh appropriation.

Is this a line replacement?

Is this the study or the million dollars is for the line replacement?

I'm sorry.

This is a study.

This is for the study of the cross town May.

It costs a million dollars to study it.

Potentially, yes.

Okay.

Um by referral, can you give, and I'm sure other council members would like a little more information on this study and for the cost?

I'm not entirely sure because we haven't gone out for proposals.

So how did you come up with a million dollars?

This is our engineered estimate based on what was the work that was done on the raw water line.

Well, can't you?

But I would think that you uh that needs to come back with a little bit more before we take this.

And I'm sorry, uh was looking at something else and y'all did that so fast.

Um you can come back with a proposal, a little more detail on this, and we're talking about a million dollar study.

I think we need a little bit more than just this.

We we're appropriating, we're at requesting an appropriation up to one million dollars.

So we don't believe it will be one million dollars, but we need to leave some space in there for contingency and you know, whatever the proposals come in at at the time of contract award, we're not gonna award a million dollars.

We'll award whatever the proposals.

Contingency for a study?

I think we need to.

Our best guess, and then we think what if uh engineering terms we we kind of estimate what we think it would be, and then we add a little bit of contingency just in case, but not contingency on the contract itself, then.

We would only request a contract award in the we would only cross appropriation of the contract award.

We would not plan to expand the million dollars.

We would only spend what the contract um proposal came in at my concern is all of the above.

Okay.

Um if by referral, you can give us more information on this prior to next week, because it's already moved on that.

I think it a little bit needs to be more in-depth when we are talking about studies, and here we are also talking about budget cuts and that kind of thing.

And we need to we need to look at it a little more.

Thank you.

Thank you, Councilman Martinez.

Uh I think that was gonna be my recommendation uh to the chair if you would do first read.

Uh assuming you get your questions answered, everyone is satisfied, then we could move on it for SEP if everything is sufficient.

But this for whatever reason is that under my committee, so I would defer it to Councilman Driscoll.

Councilman Driscoll.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

I don't mind going first reading, provide all the and we'll go SCP if all the uh referrals are answered and questions are answered by that point.

Thank you.

Uh we move on, we move on to ordinance 6526 agreement with Toledo Community Improvement Corporation to establish shovel ready sites loan program for 18 million seven hundred thousand.

Uh ordinance sixty-six twenty-six authorizing the issuance of economic development non-tax revenue bonds, May 2026, 18 million seven hundred thousand.

67 issuance or sale of general obligation bonds for infrastructure improvements through the raise grant, 19,800,000.

Ordinance 6826 issue bonds for the street and bridge construction, 12,210,000.

69 repealing ordinance 312-25 and issue refunding bonds series 2115 for 7,490,000.

Ordinance 70-26 to issue bonds for fire apparatus for 1,100,000.

Ordinance 7126 appropriation for the 2026 sidewalk program, 500,000 from CIP, 1,750,000 from Special Assessment Fund, and 1,250,000 from the tree fund.

Carl Simon Driscoll.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

For ordinance 71 and 72, since it doesn't appear we'll be voting on the budget next week.

I think we'll have to hold these items for the March 31st meeting.

Thank you.

Ordinance 7226 appropriation and grant agreement with ODOT for Path Project on Parkside Villa Bar Boulevard for 1,016,495 for CIP.

An ordinance 78-26, the map amendment of the Vistula neighborhood.

New items from City Council.

We have an appointment for the community reinvestment area housing council.

We have a resolution requesting City Plan Commission to study Reynolds Corner Area for Economic Development purposes from Councilman Martinez.

Councilman Martinez.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

So the next two resolutions really kind of stem from different conversations that have been had around growth strategy.

So when we talk about growth, we all have different visions or ideas of what we mean by it.

So for example, then when the mayor talks about growth, he talks about population.

If you talk to different directors, they're talking about affordable housing or accessible units or what have you.

So my what I've asked the planning commission to do is to look at uh the Reynolds Corner area specifically.

For me, as a district two rep, that's always been kind of uh no man's land, if you will.

Um part of Adams Township, you know, there are infrastructure issues, there are um zoning, some uh incompatibilities from where it um was originated from, um, but also there are neighborhood issues.

So, what I'm hoping to do with the Reynolds Corner area is to start off on the economic development side on the impact of uh the roundabouts, you know, in Door Street Bancroft, and how do we really help prop up the Reynolds Corner area?

Um there's been a lot of divestment over time, uh, looks a little tired, and really trying to figure out what resources we have to help spur some economic development and entrepreneurship in that area.

This would kind of abut next to my neighbors in District 1 and District 5.

Um, and then what I'm hoping to use is as a base plan for uh the neighborhoods, but also how do we layer infrastructure, prioritizing uh key areas that we're hearing from our constituents.

So, in on top of not only infrastructure, but working with the administration on in an interdepartmental conversations and how can we uh deploy local resources in a within the administration more effectively and efficiently?

So this is just one of a many layered plan uh for that area, and we certainly want to hear uh from the residents to make sure that we are truly understanding the needs and concerns.

I think with the Reynolds Corner area, for the long time it's always been kind of the country in the city kind of mentality, if you will.

And as things evolve and we add more infrastructure, you know, that has you know a different resonating impact and effect to our residents.

We want to make sure that they are being heard.

Uh when we had the Harrow Road uh meeting, you know, one of the simple uh questions was do we have a comprehensive sidewalk plan?

And we don't.

We have a vision zero concept, and as funding becomes available, we add infrastructure.

But as I think about district two moving forward, I want to be very comprehensive and intentional on where we deploy resources so we're not spreading peanut butter thin and across the entire district.

I want to make sure we're being intentional, well-focused, and this is the uh kind of the basis of uh of doing that.

Um so I would uh welcome anyone that would be interested in co-sponsoring this with me.

Um for me, this has always been kind of like a a blind spot in my district where I really just didn't have a good understanding of the needs and the um environmental issues that have been they've been faced for decades.

Um that actually ties into the light industrial port.

The next resolution that I'm asking uh is as we're thinking about growth strategies, and now that we have the TCIC, you know, the reality is we don't have the landmass to attract big uh manufacturing, but we do have a lot of uh small smaller scale manufacturing.

How do we help them grow and expand and thrive, and not necessarily being a first tier provider, but maybe a B or C tier up in Detroit, Canada as the international bridge opens.

So I'm hoping this will be a good um blueprint where again we can start thinking about comprehensively how do we help spur economic development in our area, specifically around industrial light manufacturing.

It's not like it used to be.

It's it's changed, technology has changed, it's cleaner, and we have limited land mass, and we are kind of losing our shirts to the suburbs who have green space that can do these huge manufacturing facilities.

Well, I don't think we need to compete with them.

We need to continue growing our own so they can be competitive on a world stage, and by having access to the 475 and 75, we just need to rethink or think differently about land use, especially around light industrial and industrial areas, um, because that may encroach into some neighborhoods to make sure that we have uh buffers in green space and sufficient space where everybody can coexist.

So that's what I'm hoping to accomplish with these two resolutions.

And again, if anyone's interested in co-sponsoring, I'm happy to um kind of provide more detail.

But that was kind of the methodology of what I was asking the plan commission to do for me.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So the second resolution was requesting city plan commit commission to study light industrial zoning for streamlining and incentivizing development.

Then we have a resolution sponsored by council members Driscoll, Gaddis, Jones, Comives, Kramer, and Martinez resolution requesting City Plan Commission to review text amendment for special use permits for detention facilities.

Same sponsors for the resolution urging federal agencies, employees, officers, and agents to conduct themselves in accordance with the U.S.

Constitution.

Same sponsors being amending TMC by enacting chapter 115 entitled Immigration Status and City Resources.

And again, amending TMC Chapter 509, enacting 509.13 obstructing access to education and 537.29 harassment of educators.

Council President Williams.

Thank you so much.

I just wanted to make sure that um colleagues knew that we will have a committee of the whole at 4 p.m.

this this evening for the four pieces of legislation.

That's it.

Councilmember Gaddis.

Thank you.

I was just gonna say that.

Thanks.

New item, and that's it.

That completes the agenda.

This meeting is ajar.

No.