Not that this is imminent, but if the golf course ever redevelops into something other than a golf course, and also there's a very large plot of property to the east of the golf or west of the golf course that um could be developed on, it would make more sense to connect it there.

Um part of that concern is also there's a a subdivision to the west of here, Shadow Ridge.

That is a good thing.

Good afternoon.

Welcome to the two thirty Wednesday, August 19th Public Works meeting.

I'm Councilor Dr.

Wright calling the meeting to order.

I'm gonna read items two and three together so we can get the commissioners back to their meeting that's in session.

Item number two and three is Louisa Krug and Josh Walker appointment to the Tulsa Planning Commission.

New commission term expires December second, twenty twenty nine.

Miss Krug lives in am I saying your last name right, Krug?

Krug.

Uh in District Nine, and Mr.

Walker um is in district four.

Welcome to our table.

We had your colleagues earlier today.

They're holding a fort downstairs, so we'll get through this quickly.

Um why don't you just tell us very briefly about yourselves, however, which whoever wants to go first and why you want to continue on the commission.

Sure.

Well, I've been on a while and I really enjoy serve and serving on the planning commission.

I like seeing all the deals come through, and it's not that taxing and just really enjoyed it so far.

Okay.

I'm commercial real estate.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

Commissioner Crew.

Uh so yeah, I'm Louisa Krug.

I am the executive director of a nonprofit in East Tulsa.

Um, but when I graduated from grad school with my master's in public health, I worked at the health department for seven years.

Uh and while I was there, and in my current work, just really see how the way that you build a city and develop a city is really uh has long-term impacts on how people grow up and what their long-term uh economic opportunities are, educational health, all of those things.

I think we all know the the research about life expectancy gaps, all those sort of things.

So when I first started um when I first joined the planning commission several years ago, it was just really cool to be able to be part of some of what that recommendations for what that development looks like in that built environment.

And I just really think about how it uh impacts people's lives.

Okay.

Uh Councilor Archie, you're gonna ask the same question you asked earlier.

Uh well that could I I would want to know um well, thank you for your y'all's service.

I think I meant both of you individually.

I'm gonna know how do you think the council or the commission is different than how you've gone to just to a city from the city and county, but then also how do you all take community voice into account when you're making those decisions?

Um I think sometimes the perception is that you're just looking at the numbers, looking at the data, does it fall within the comprehensive plan?

Okay, let's go along.

But how does that community voice, how do you all incorporate that into the decision making?

I'm saying that selfishly because there's there's a an item coming uh in my area.

So I'm gonna well on the application, the applicant is instructed to host the neighborhood meetings, and sometimes they don't, but that's critical, and we want to see that.

I'm I'm looking for that.

So you know, we and so we stress that.

So sometimes we have to continue so that those meetings are held.

Okay.

Um there's a big one coming up on 71st Street with those big five-acre lots.

Right.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Right, and uh, we've not done uh it's interesting you say that community engagement is on the app because we we've not done that yet, or uh the developer has not done it yet, but we intend to, but after the hearing, yeah.

But um it's so important.

And I stress them to come to the podium.

You know, I'll get calls and I said I can't talk, it's exparte, but get your neighbors to the podium and let us hear.

Yeah, we're gonna come.

I heard.

Yeah, I think it's like it's a fine line, right?

Because there's obviously, like you said, you're looking at some of the like rules and regulations that have been adopted by the city of Tulsa, but then also understanding that people may or may not fully understand like all the different steps to the process.

Um, and so I think it's like also trying to help people understand like where you know, where are your uh concerns most likely to be heard, right?