Any members have had a chance to review.

I would entertain a motion to approve.

Second.

Got a motion and second.

All in favor say aye.

Aye.

Senates are approved.

Item number one is approval of a minor public works contract with tri-state abatement for asbestos abatement services at 613 23rd Avenue East.

The total is $4,400.

Selvin, welcome.

Welcome.

Good evening, Counselor.

Good evening.

Thank you all for your attention.

This council has approved a residential property at this location for demolition.

Upon inspection, we have determined that there is asbestos at this property.

So this service contract will provide for the uh appropriate removal and disposal of that asbestos.

We have two bidders on this work.

Uh we consider the most responsible bidder to be that of Tri-State at the amount noted for $4,400.

This is covered in our operations.

Question motion.

Second.

Motion second.

All in favor say aye.

Aye.

Item number one is approved.

Item number two.

Thank you, Selvin.

Is approval of professional service agreement with uh Porter Higginbotham Engineering for Engineering Services on the 36th Avenue East Rainbow Drive Culvert Replacement Project.

Totals 49,761 dollars.

Zach, welcome.

Good afternoon, Council.

Good afternoon.

You'll remember this as part of the uh drainage presentation.

This is one of the short term or get it budget for locations at 36th Avenue East at the intersection of Rainbow Drive.

There's basically a C and P pipe your district.

It's on the road.

And so this is the corrugated metal pipe.

The bill or has a failing spot and is deteriorating.

Fullet works went out and patched the spot.

It's on the edge of the road.

It's on the outside edge of the road, but you can see the joint in the pipe there.

So this is just going to continue to happen until we replace this pipe.

If approved, what's the time frame getting this done?

The bid will most likely be in January.

Um we have it determined.

We're trying to part of this design of this is going to be to minimize the closure on this road as we replace the pipe.

So that'll be to be determined, but um should bid January.

I would think no more than 30, 45 days for construction.

Questions?

Motion.

Second.

Motion second.

All in favor say aye.

Aye.

Item number two is approved.

Item number three is approval of a professional services agreement with Duncan Coker Associates for Engineering Services on Veterans Memorial Parkway Bridge project.

The total 229,342.

Zach.

All right.

So I'm pretty sure all y'all know where this is by now.

Oh, yeah.

This is what we asked us to table a few weeks ago.

So bringing it back at the time.

I just wanted some time to absorb it.

That's okay.

Did you absorb it?

Council?

Yeah.

Any questions?

Okay.

I mean, bats.

John, anybody got questions?

No questions.

Motion.

Second.

Second.

You sure we don't want to talk about this anymore?

You need motionlows and motion second.

All in favor say I.

Aye.

It's not time to be a comedian.

Item number four is approval of a minor public works contract with Alabama Pro Wash for a water tank cleaning.

The total is $15,400.

Kimberly, welcome.

This is for our water tank by drone with Alabama Pro Wide.

And this is in the amount of $15,400 and it's being funded out of Ed Love's operations budget.

Question to which tank is it, Kim?

This would be the tank that's on some describe.

The new one?

Yes.

Oh, it's just that the exterior surface wash, it's not the interior of it.

So it just depends on the location of the tank, the area that it's in.

So we don't have a set schedule for every tank.

Some tanks might be every five years, depending on the location.

Um, the location of this tank, the trees, the color, all those things play into why you want to wash it when you do.

Just for instance, gotta get it ready for football.

I was gonna say real tight.

Questions?

Motion second.

Motion second.

All in favor say aye.

Aye.

Item number four is approved.

Item number five is authorization to execute a memorandum of agreement and permissive use permit with Kentuck Museum Association for the Kentucky Festival of Arts.

Afternoon, Council.

Good afternoon.

Um excited here to advance um an MOA with uh Kentalk to hold their festival, the city of Tuscaloosa for the next 15 years.

Skinner and Representatives are here in the case if you have any questions.

I do want to thank our staff members from CFG Arts Entertainment.

Obviously, Ken stock legal finance because what this will do is make it a much smoother process for all those entities to work together each year with the delivery of festival, particularly for the stage three.

So this will save a lot of staff time and obviously a lot of information coming back to council for just constant approvals for the festival itself.

So kind of a celebratory moment, I would argue.

I'm excited to have Ms.

Skinner and Kentuck.

We've worked a long time on this, so very, very excited about this particular item.

This is a memorandum of understanding about everything we're collaborating with that we know of.

This is specific to the festival.

Just to the festival.

This is specific only to the festival.

Okay.

Yes, sir.

Does it for that entire 15 year old?

What are the basic covenants?

Location.

It's within the city of Tuscaloosa.

I would assume it's not it's not specified to um.

I imagine that's where we'll be, but I think there's flexibility just in the event of 15 years change could happen, and you may need to pivot, and so that provides Ken Talk and also flexibility.

But I think that would be the intention of the council.

So one of the basic covenants, the big ones.

It's essentially the big covenants, or it's 15 years.

They are going to deliver the festival.

We will deliver the in-con services much like we did last year.

Then that's essentially the extent of it.

And then the alcohol component is.

Come have it on our property, we'll do the services.

You bring the people.

And I would imagine, yes, sir.

And uh, I would imagine each year there would probably be some minor adjustments on the NCON side.

We probably did more last year, have it can recalibrate and kind of go down a little bit and adjust.

ESD, TPD, uh CFG public works or other all assistance now that we've kind of delivered it.

We know what we need to improve upon, what we could do better and faster.

Miss Skinner provided us a tremendous amount of notes in a positive way that we've already worked with Ms.

Day on to tackle.

What's the day?

It's October 11th and 12th.

And the VIP parties could be Friday night on October 10th.

I will say it was great.

I mean, it was just great last year, and I'm I'm anticipated being better.

And I just can't imagine where you'd have it if it wasn't Snow Hinton Park.

I just can't imagine.

Well, it's hard for us to imagine having it anywhere else.

So it is very exciting, and uh, I do want to thank Ms.

Kinner and Miss Eccles who's not here, but um tremendous group to work with, um, meeting the moment at every step, and also our team members as well, and this will make it a much smoother process and really be able to just highlight a first class festival uh within our community and really adds to the quality of life portfolio that we currently have.

Questions?

Any other questions?

Got a motion?

Second, motion second, any discussion.

All in favor say aye.

Aye.

Item number five is approved.

Item number six is approval of a right-of-way use permit to create a community garden for the neighbors of Heritage Hills.

Yes, sir.

Yeah, this is a right-of-way use permit.

It's a little different than what we normally see.

Typically, we're doing something on a sidewalk or a building that's adjacent to our right away.

Uh, there is actually a parcel in Heritage Hills that is approximately two and a half acres.

Um, a lot of it is drainage ditch, and I think there's either a water line or a sewer line that runs through there.

Um, but up towards the front, right in the neighborhood is is basically what looks like an empty parcel uh for the neighborhood.

Uh Ms.

Glenn, who is here approached, I believe Mr.

Crow about this in the spring and wanted to do a uh just a community garden for the neighbors of the neighborhood.

Um we've had uh uh Mr.

Gardner's uh team has surveyed it for us, so we have a survey that kind of sets out the little bit of of square for it.

Um, and so this would allow us to execute the right-of-way use permit to allow them to put that garden there.

So it's all city right away.

Yes, sir, it's on city right away.

You thought of it?

Nice idea.

I like this.

Nice idea.

A great thing for the neighborhood.

I make a motion.

Is there any ongoing maintenance on our part?

Or we we cut it.

Um, and so we have part of the part of the permit will we mow it.

We mow it, yes.

Um, part of the permit will uh we'll delineate where Ms.

Glenn is growing her garden and her neighbors, so Mr.

Thompson's folks don't uh take out the first crop.

Please be careful about that.

And is it for residents of the neighborhood?

Is it for what what's yeah, just residents, just residents?

Yeah.

Oh, cool.

I think my only question is about the water.

Um whether I need to have a meter uh water book up installed and how much that would cost you the so the the permit as written would would allow you to have a water meter installed.

Um our standard meter set and this Michael can correct me, would be somewhere around eleven hundred dollars plus uh whatever the water goes.

Yeah, it depends on what size meter you need that you're looking for out there, but yes.

I guess I'm wondering if there's an alternative as well.

Not that we have with with 772 and also with our bond covenants uh for our water sewer attached.

There's there's not any real way around that for us.

We we do that at Para for Sokal Park and Second Got a motion and a second, all in favor say aye.

Aye.

Item number six is approved.

Item number seven is an update uh to the committee and and council on the status of the downtown university quarter.

Yeah, I'll I'll introduce it.

I I know uh this thing has been moving along and fits and starts, and it's still moving along and fits and starts.

But Jimmy, I did uh I did want us to get an update on just where in the planning process we are.

I see Brendan is uh Michael we're we're gonna tag team.

You're gonna do it.

So we've gotten the uh you know we engaged uh Duncan Coker to prepare uh design up to 50 percent.

The effort there was for us to uh formulate a accurate cost estimate to see what the improvements were gonna be.

Uh and we now have that cost estimate along with that 50 percent uh set of plans that are under review at our office.

Um, our estimate including all the buy-in with paying for under overhead and underground is uh right around 35 million dollars.

Um the next step would be for us to start looking at how we would want to phase the construction from a timing perspective, uh a duration of construction activity, uh, and also you know, a cost for a particular phase.

If we picked a third of the project down on the campus end or or whatever, what's that cost gonna be and how would we prepare to construct that uh with as little impact to our community as possible?

Like not during the middle of the football season.

Like not during the middle of football.

Exactly right.

So I think um Mr.

Moore, Miss Stanbridge.

Between the two of you, can y'all give us uh an update over what money is where for this?

And I realize there's there's a lot, lot, lot to come and be done, but there is there's some squirrel to what yeah.

Mike my ANF provided it over like you want to I think we're at uh nine, nine little over nine million, maybe nine and a half and we're not in the room.

Nine and a half for this portion of it, and then we did do the full ten million dollar um bond issuance in 2025 for the eastern side, but then there was planned to be something left over that would be able to go into the western side if there was any.

Um but so nine and a half for sure.

And that the nine and a half in elevated check.

Correct.

And then anything left over out of the ten from the 2025 bond check.

And that's I'm assuming that's what we can see at this point.

Do we know kind of what we think the whole scope of the project would be dollar wise?

That's that's the that's the number that's 35 million, 35 north part of 30.

The whole yeah, streetscape and the whole update right above.

Yeah, that that's everything that's covered.

That's all you know, handling all the utilities, which is converting, you know, the overhead to underground, um the streetscape lighting.

That's the that's the whole project.

I I've got a I've got a base question.

Um that I feel a little self-conscious asking, but again, this project's been going on since Lee Garrison was Calderon.

It's a long time ago.

I mean, it's this has been underway a long time.

Well what are the base goals of the this seven or eight block stretch?

I can speak for me.

I think I think I look at it in a couple of sections.

One, the section in the university proper, really from Reed Street back to Wallace Way, it's safety along the strip and strip corridors, pedestrian access, vehicle movements, et cetera, just because of the amount of people that are in that area.

As you move from Reed Street to Queen City, creating that connectivity, that pedestrian connectivity that right now is kind of it's almost a no-man's land between the university and our downtown property.

So improving that pedestrian access, lighting, our camera technology, et cetera.

Then from Queen City back to I guess it's the 19th, where the federal court house is, um, continuing the streetscape that is that started at University Boulevard in Greensboro and moving that back east to meet with Queen City.

So I really see it in three sections.

I don't know, our engineering team doesn't necessarily look at it that way.

So those would be my three, my three primary goals.

Certainly we we want to continue to figure out maybe how we can divide this project up in segments.

Um I don't think under any scenario there's 35 or 40 million to do this at one time.

So where can we do segments?

Where can we get partners in those segments too?

I think it's going to be something too.

We're interested in in talking with other people.

If this whole project was funded and was done at once to go with what Walt said, is this going all the way from Alman Avenue or or right by the courthouse if we go all the way where?

So Ballman from Almond to be, and then Mike can jump in on this.

Okay.

I don't think it would be feasible due to the invasiveness and invasiveness and distance to do that, probably all at one time to the level of disruption.

So as Mayor Maddox alluded to, we're kind of looking at Queen City to Reed as a section, Queen City back into downtown, and obviously read to Walls Way.

And that would have raised intersections to control the speeding in that area, wider sidewalks, underground utilities.

Um obviously working with chief and our security plan teams.

You've seen you add some bollards out there, both hydraulic in the street and also on the sidewalk.

So you'll have a lot of those features as well.

The most cost effective segment is actually from Reed Street to Walls Way.

Yes, sir.

That is the most logical place to start from both the cost and the time standpoint.

Be a little bit faster, and probably I guess it's only really a third approximately of that cost, full cost estimate approximately.

There's just some advantages from cost perspective starting on that end of the of the of the corridor.

Um, you know, one thing that we'll be analyzing in with the help of Duncan Coker is you know, the segments that we choose or to look at as a phase, you know, how does it work with with our infrastructure?

You know, uh one of the key elements is maybe storm drainage.

If you got to improve your storm drainage for increasing runoff, then uh how do we how do we coordinate that with maybe the piece that's in the next phase that's not gonna be as functional?

Uh so those are those are things that we've got to look at from a technical aspect and come back and say, here's our recommendation for a phase, and it's it's pretty complicated because those phases also need to work in timelines in and around campus activities.

So Mike or or Jimmy or or Mayor, who's uh I'm sure there has to be some other strictures apply to this.

I mean, obviously, this is a main artery smack and sort of out.

So are we um are there imposed on it?

Okay, but whatever you do, don't restrict traffic to blank or make sure you restrict it to blank.

Is there how are we dealing with those parameters?

I think that's one of the the reasons why we would probably want to sit down and talk with you.

I mean, each segment's gonna have its own live.

I mean, there's going to be some stakeholder group there there.

We know it's going to be going this way.

Yes.

And so, you know, and looking at it segment by segment is going to be probably our best way to do it.

If we want to push out sidewalks, create more pedestrian access, then the trade-off most likely is loading zone area.

You lose your loading zone area.

So when you lose your loading zone area, now you have businesses who go.

We you know, we can't unload X, Y, or Z because you've improved the sidewalk.

So if we don't improve the sidewalks and traffic flow and the raised cross sections, then we lose on the public safety side.

And so and then you've got the accessibility through the middle of town onto the bridge at traffic.

I mean, uh so that's so what we'd like to do.

It's gonna be a fur fight all the way around.

Mr.

Busby, I think my recommendation would be to you, and then ultimately to our entire city council would be to take it in in those segments and treat each segment.

Of course, they'll all interlock, but we can take it segment by segment.

I do think a good test case for us will be the Greensboro Avenue project from uh 7th back down to uh Greensboro.

I think that or excuse me, university.

Um I think that gives I think that's gonna give a good foreshadowing of what these types of projects can look like and what it means to pedestrian access and also show that you can have both pedestrian access and business.

It takes a little bit more coordination in terms of business deliveries.

Certainly takes a little bit more coordination, it takes some utilization of side streets.

But I I do think that that possibility can exist, and I think that'll be a good that'll be a good taste uh test case for us when that project gets led in May of 26, right, Mike?

When it gets led when actually when it gets led in March of 26 and goes under construction in May or 40.

We break ground in May of 26, that's right.

Just confirming that detail.

And then Mike, do you know or Brendan?

The we actually have substantial University Boulevard improved money essentially from a 20 21st, maybe 20th down.

I mean, how long how old is that?

You know, I mean, we came in and put those media we put that landscape in on the side.

Um we put those trees with the grapes.

How who knows how many on university boulevards you walk out right?

That was in the mid 80s mid-80s, yes, sir.

That's the mid-80s.

40-ish years old.

But we did, didn't we?

We did those plannings.

We built the medians up in the middle of the number.

That is correct.

We built turn lanes in several places, right?

Yes, sir.

And then we've continued to add a turn lane right down at the traffic line where we had the pedestrian uh killed in uh yeah, 20 right there in front of the federal courthouse and Cadence Bank.

That's where the that's there, that's where it terminates.

What was what was originally done?

I think another determining factor, Mr.

Boseman too, is gonna be just right-of-way.

Is the what the right of way?

What is that issue, Mike?

Right-of-ay acquisition.

I know but who's gonna be does that does that right-of-way belong to who well it's the city?

I mean, the city, the city's right-of-way, but where you have to, because some of the earlier iterations of this had massive right-of-way acquisition because of you know bike lanes being you know, taking property and putting in bike lanes on top of property or parking, which would not be doable.

It wouldn't be feasible number one, it wouldn't be politically feasible number two.

Um so we really want to try to work within our rights of way to make this project do everything possible within our own rights of way to mitigate cost in this project.

That's gonna be another factor too.

We're gonna be you know, coming to you ultimately with a recommendation on this to really restrict the amount of right-of-way we have to acquire in this project.

We'll call aromatics as a point.

We're essentially trying to operate within our own right of way, trying to limit any type of um additional steps.

There may be a property or two or some items we may have to work through in some various stretches, but it will be very minimal.

Um very very minimal impact on property side, and that will make it faster and easier and more efficient for all parties.

But we're gonna stay within our boundaries.

I'm having a dense moment.

Um we own the right-of-way, right?

We just don't want to acquire outside of that.

We don't want to.

We don't want to acquire outside.

We don't want we're gonna try to operate within our boundaries from cost and also the limitations.

And in general, is there a line of understanding that we can use as just a general understanding the the right-of-way that belongs to the businesses on the street frontage?

On the street frontage, is that is that what we're talking about not wanting to have to acquire?

Well, I mean, it doesn't belong to them.

I mean, it's the city's rights of way.

I think we just don't want to go any deeper.

If on the in the strip area, it'd be about impossible.

You'd be getting into imminent domain issues at that point.

Um, but even as you move from Reed Street back up to Queen City, you still have limited areas to work.

And the other challenge, by the way, is you got power poles that run through the center of sidewalks.

And that's the utility easements that run through there, it is it is complicated.

That's what makes that's why I agree with Brendan.

I think our first look needs to be from Reed Street back to Wallace Wade, and you got most of your utilities out of the way.

You can work within your right-of-way, and then you begin thinking long term about read to Queen City and then Queen City back to 19.

But we want to sit down and talk to you about it.

Okay, well, I um uh I'll say that counselor.

In the weeks in advance, we're working with um Duncan Coper and their farm Mike, myself, and Bill to get some deliverables and time schedules, kind of your chunks as we were just discussing.

What does that look like from a timing perspective?

The level of invasiveness, how can we sequence it?

Considerations around our our calendar as you noted with the game season, what are those windows of times we can operate with them?

So we would expect something within a few weeks back from now.

Okay, to start with that.

And uh uh appreciate the process update.

I just wanted to know where in this we think we are.

We want to be make sure we're methodical so when we bring to you the next steps that we can complete and go to a hundred percent design that we have everything ironed out as Mr.

Glogner noted, and Mayor Maddox, there's a lot going on above ground and underground in that stretch, both from water and sewer and also from um just aerial utilities.

We want to make sure we have everything locked in, there's ordering timelines, making sure all the components are there, proper notification, not disrupting really the one of the hardware economic engine at key times, obviously.

So uh there's just a lot of things we're gonna have to sequence the random adjoining property owners we need to make sure we engage as well.

So good, thanks, Chairman.

Good update.

Is there any other business to be brought before our committee?

Our next uh committee meeting will be Tuesday, September the ninth.

We will not meet next Tuesday because I cannot believe it's Labor Day.

So as we head into the first home football, we will follow Tuesday and Wednesday.

We've got a work session, yeah.

Tuesday morning.

So eight eight.

Hearing no new business, I would entertain a motion to adjourn.

So motion second motion second.