0:02All right, I'll go ahead and get this this part started.
0:06Good evening and welcome to the September 15, 2025 meeting of the City of Tuscaloosa Planning and Zoning Commission.
0:13Any written comments sent to staff were forwarded to the Commission directly.
0:18This time I'd like to introduce our staff, Jim Bo Woodson, Deputy City Attorney, Michael Garner, City Engineer, Zach Pons, Director of Planning, Leo DeCoy, Principal Planner.
0:29There are nine members of the Planning Commission, all of them are appointed by the mayor for staggered terms, with the exception of the City Council representative who is appointed by the City Council.
0:37I ask the Commission members to introduce themselves and state the occupation beginning with Ms.
0:45Dina Prince, attorney.
0:48Portia Clark, 311 manager.
0:50Tim Harrison, General Crown Director.
0:53Ann Hornsby, attorney.
0:54Raven Howard, Councilwoman.
0:56ADP, retired Bill Wright Business Owner.
0:59There were signup sheets located outside for public comment.
1:03Four speakers are allowed to speak in favor of petition and four speakers are allowed to speak in opposition of a petition.
1:09All speakers will have the maximum of five minutes unless the commission votes to allow a longer time.
1:14The commission will take up the items in order of the final agenda.
1:18The commission will initially receive a presentation from staff as to the details of the agenda item.
1:23Additionally, we may hear certain matters involving the same property, such as an annexation and a zoning matter concurrently, although we will take separate votes on each matter involving the same property.
1:33After the staff presentation, I will call upon the petitioner to present their case.
1:38The petitioner will have a maximum of 10 minutes unless the commission votes to allow a longer time.
1:43At the conclusion of the petition's remarks, we'll then call upon any party in order of sign up who desires to support the petition.
1:49Thereafter, call upon any party who opposes the petition.
1:53When it's your term for comment, please introduce yourself, stating your name and address to the commission.
1:58Provide your remarks.
2:00Any written comments you have been would be included into the record.
2:03After receiving the remarks of those who oppose the petition, the petitioner will have the opportunity to respond to those objections.
2:11Any rebuttal will be limited to two minutes unless commission votes to allow a longer time.
2:16If the petitioner presents any information respond in the response to the objections, the commission will allow those who oppose the petition the opportunity to respond to the new information only.
2:28Any response will be limited to two minutes unless Commission votes to allow a longer time.
2:33During the course of the presentation, you may be interrupted by any member of the commission for a clarification or additional information.
2:40Such interruptions will not reduce your time.
2:43Once the Commission members are satisfied that they have received all relevant information, will then close further discussions by the public, at which time the commission members will discuss and on the matter and then vote.
2:53After the vote, you are free to leave.
2:58These proceedings are being recorded and broadcast live.
3:00All in-person public comments should be made at the podium into the microphone.
3:13Subdivisions located within City of Tusk and City Limits, subdivisions located outside of the city limits, but within the police jurisdiction.
3:22Developments with a special district and approval letters for developments in historic district buffer zones.
3:31As to all remaining agenda matters, including annexations, rezonings, planned developments, and street vacation.
3:38This commission serves as a recommended body to the city council.
3:41In that regard, our decisions are in the form of a recommendation to be presented to the city council, and the city council will make the final decision on those matters.
3:50Subdivision approval requires the affirmative vote of six members of the planning commission.
3:55All matters which are recommendations to the city council require majority vote for an affirmative recommendation.
4:02At this time, I would ask do any members of the commission have any conflicts of interest to any matters before us tonight?
4:08If so, please state for the record.
4:12Having heard none, I would ask staff to confirm on the record that proper notice has been given to all parties and interest as required by law as to all matters before the commission tonight.
4:23With that, we will begin with approval of the minutes as the planning and zoning commission has received the synopsis of the August 2025 meeting.
4:30I move that we dispense with the reading of the minutes, and unless there are any deletions, additions, or corrections.
4:37All those in favor of the approving approving the minutes of August 2025 say aye.
4:43Those opposed, ayes have it.
4:48Good evening, Commission.
4:50Starting off tonight with the consent agenda, we have one item here.
4:53I don't recall if um the person we had sign up tonight was for this one.
4:57Would you mind double checking chair?
5:00So no public comment on this one.
5:06We have consent agenda item S8425.
5:09All those in favor say aye.
5:14All right, moving on to cases requesting to continue.
5:17We have uh a companion case here.
5:19Um they continued this prior to uh mailing, so no vote is needed tonight, nor do we have anyone sign up out front.
5:27Uh moving into our unfinished business, we have a preliminary plot.
5:31That is S 7625 resurvey of a portion of lot 10 Thompson Place, consisting of four lots on approximately 4.7 acres located at 15329 through 15343 Bluff Drive.
5:44This is not in city limits and is continued from the August meeting.
5:48You can see we're pretty far north here off of Highway 43.
5:52You can see that lot today.
5:53Uh it's one lot, it has some mobile homes on the property.
5:56They'd like to split it up four ways.
5:58You can see um all the lots hitting a minimum of one acre here, and you can see that without contours as well.
6:06Uh we do have four variance requests.
6:08We did not receive any public comment.
6:10Do you have any questions for staff?
6:12Engineering on those variance requests.
6:20We don't have we don't have an objection to those variance requests.
6:26But I do want to point out that uh may not be quite clear on the map, but Tiers Patent is a minor arterial.
6:35So we're we want all the lots, only one access to Tiers Patent Road to be allowed.
6:42I think the way they've got it drawn, it looks like maybe lots two and three are gonna share a driveway, but we need lots four, three, and two to share a driveway.
6:54Are you okay with it?
6:56Uh lot once uh they got a note saying it's gonna access Marina Drive.
7:00Okay, so two, three, four.
7:10Name and address for the record, please.
7:12Jonathan McKinney, one five three one seven Woodbend Road, Northport Alabama.
7:20Tell us about the access.
7:21Yeah, we're working engineering has an issue.
7:25Um it looks like we're sharing driveway.
7:29We've just got it split up, but it's it's only one entrance going in as far as I can tell.
7:33I don't see a driveway at all.
7:36For lot four, especially.
7:38Almost oh, yeah, lot four.
7:40Obviously, yeah, I'm just right beside the other two.
7:43We only had one entrance coming in.
7:44We just had to split it three ways and have land coming all the way in because of uh I think it was the county that made us do that.
7:51Mike, you okay with him saying this, and then at some point he's gotta pull a permits, right?
7:59So, what will we require when they submit the final plant to divide the lots?
8:03Is the the access easement that they're showing will have to include uh reaching the property line of lot four.
8:12So right now they're showing a 15-foot access, which is fine, but if there's a gap of land on lot three that the easement does not join the western boundary of lot four, so it'll have to be adjusted to come that makes sense.
8:32Whatever we go to touch forward, it would work.
8:37That may make sense to you.
8:44Anything you want to tell us other than we're just trying to clean the place up and put some nice house on it.
8:51I think that's desirable from what I know.
8:54We're planning on building 1.5 two million dollar homes, three of them on the property and removing all the stuff that's currently there.
9:04Any other questions for petitioner?
9:11Anyone sign up for or care to speak for or against this petition request?
9:18Well, Mike, you're gonna take care of this.
9:20It doesn't have to be anything that we vote on that says it's I think we're gonna say for the record that I think you need to add it in your uh recommendation for approval that there'll only be one access to Tears Patent.
9:37All right, Commission.
9:38Before us, we have S 7625 of four variance requests.
9:45Engineering has no issues with the hash street improvement, sidewalk construction, or cap sewer.
9:49However, on the lot configuration, we want to make sure that the petitioner is aware that he must increase the access statement to include and reflect that on the plan to include lot four has having access easement on it.
10:09That being said, I have a motion and a second.
10:27Moving into our cases to be heard tonight.
10:29Starting off with the companion case.
10:31It's 14310 Santorini Street.
10:34It's an annexation and rezoning of.031 acres.
10:40Once annexing, rezoning from SFR1 to LR.
10:45You can see we're pretty far north on the lake in the gates of Emerald's Ed subdivision.
10:50You can see that triangle.
10:52That is what they would like to annex and rezone.
10:55You see the lots vacant today.
10:57You can see that triangle piece to be annexed into city limits.
11:02And this may look familiar.
11:03You saw this subdivision last month.
11:05You can see that proposed lot 74G did pick up that triangular piece.
11:11Rest of that lot is already in city limits and zoned SFR1 or excuse me, LR Lake Residential.
11:18That's why they would like to annex and rezone to kind of create a consistent uniform lot.
11:23This is in our future service expansion area.
11:26Here are department comments on the annexation.
11:30Moving into the rezoning, again, rezoning from SFR1 to LR.
11:35Here's that piece again vacant today.
11:38You can see the rest of that lot is already LR Lake Residential.
11:43I'm just kind of cleaning up that rezoning again just to have a consistent lot.
11:49You can see that subdivision you saw last month.
11:53And eventually they are building a home here.
11:58In framework, this area is identified as lakeside living, which is kind of that residential area up on the lake.
12:05So this zoning request and use do conform to the plan.
12:09You can see that lakeside living use identified here.
12:13Here are permitted uses or LR.
12:16We did not receive any public comment.
12:18Do you have any questions for staff?
12:28Commissioner Robert Martin with Duncan Coker Associates.
12:32Be happy to answer any questions.
12:34I think this is pretty straightforward.
12:37Annex and rezoning the trying the base there.
12:41Robert, you finally got an easy one, didn't you?
12:45William Miller got his easement.
12:50Any questions for petitioner?
12:53Anyone care to speak for or against this petition request?
12:59Commission before us, we have an annexation of AN 1525.
13:03We're gonna be annexing.
13:07And annexation 1625.
13:09We're gonna annex at 0.31 acres at 1430 Santorini Street.
13:15All those in favor say aye.
13:21Commissioner Force have Z2125, Mr.
13:24McKay, petitions rezone.
13:273.31 acres located from SFR1 to LR in conjunction with annexation previously mentioned.
13:35We have a motion and a second.
13:52All right, Commission.
13:53Next up, another companion case.
13:55This is at 6950 University Boulevard East.
13:58Um, this is an annexation of.7 acres as well as a rezoning from SFR1, that default zoning to GC General Commercial.
14:09So you can see we're in the Cottendale area, right off of University Boulevard and Hurricane Road.
14:14You can see that lot today.
14:16It has been developed.
14:17Our aerial is a little out of date.
14:19There's an existing sea store and fuel station at this site.
14:22You can see they'd like to annex that property into city limits.
14:31They'd like to annex for uh future utilities.
14:35Uh this is identified as a primary, oof, primary, excuse me, expansion area.
14:40You can see our department comments here regarding the annexation.
14:45Um moving into the rezoning.
14:47So once annexed, um, hitting that default zoning of SFR1, uh liking to rezone to general commercial.
14:54Here again is that site.
14:55Again, it has been developed.
14:57You can see they do touch other general commercial uh property.
15:02And they'd like to rezone as part of that annexation request.
15:05You can see this is that site plan of showing what has been built here already.
15:10And here again is the photo of the site today.
15:13In framework, this is identified as corridor commercial.
15:17So this request and use do conform to framework.
15:22You can see that corridor commercial identification here.
15:40This is their application did state.
15:46That they'd like to annex for those future utilities.
15:51The petitioner can confirm more about their annexation.
15:53What are the what's utilities or they own?
16:02I don't know that sewer is readily available at the site.
16:05We're just gonna get ready just in case if it does and take their taxes.
16:22Okay, my name is Donish, I'm Sudan.
16:242260 Old Gold Run, Hoover, Alabama, 35244.
16:30So yes, for a future, like we can possibly connect to City Sewer, but really we I have another business like a mile down in Cottendale, which is already in the city.
16:41Um it'll just make streamline doing accounting and keeping up with all the taxes and everything will be in the city.
16:51So explain to me the future utilities.
16:55Right now we have a research septicank system right now because there's no sewer around, but like in the future, if city ever decides to put sewer, it'll we can connect to that city sewer if we're already in the city.
17:09Why wouldn't you just wait till it ran?
17:12Why wouldn't you just wait till it ran?
17:14Why would you annex it now?
17:16Oh, yeah, we could possibly do that.
17:18I was just thinking they would streamline all our accounting and all our pay stores design.
17:26I've got like uh another uh Texaco convenience store, which is about a mile down the road, which is already in the city, which is further from the city.
17:37So I think I think that business is connected to City Sewer already through the Mercedes.
17:46Wilson, they and the PJ are it's in.
17:50I had to come for the city to get an alcohol license for Monday through Saturday.
17:56Yes, yes, I've been here for that too.
17:58They've already got an alcohol license from the city.
18:03So that'd be automatically grandfathered in the yeah.
18:09That's what I wanted to do.
18:14Hey, we get more revenue, I guess, right?
18:18Anything any other questions for a petitioner?
18:23Anyone cares pay for against these requests?
18:28All right, Commissioner Force, we have an annexation 1725.
18:33Uh annexed 0.7 acres 69 University Boulevard.
18:38Well, all those in favor say aye.
18:42Commissioner Force have Z 2225, Delta Investments and Development.
18:48Petitions to rezone since there are now annexed from SFR1 to GC, which they currently are.
18:55So a motion and a second.
19:05Welcome to the city.
19:13Next up we have a rezoning petition.
19:17Chase Adcox petitions to rezone.
19:20Approximately 0.78 acres located at 1431 Hackberry Lane from UC to MRU.
19:26You can see we're right next to 15th Street, the bread factory.
19:31You can see that site today.
19:33Tonight we are only talking about this property here.
19:38And you'll see that as we move forward in the plans.
19:41But that property today, you can see it's currently zoned.
19:48The applicant would like to request a rezone to allow for the construction of four U triplex buildings.
19:55You can see the site today.
19:56It's a package store and laundromat.
20:00I mean you can see kind of the adjacent properties to the north of the site.
20:04Here are some elevations that the applicant submitted of those proposed triplexes.
20:10Moving around to the rear and the side elevation on the north.
20:15Here's a rendering taken from Hackberry.
20:19You can see those here.
20:22Since the packets were posted and we received those renderings, they have a revised the site plan.
20:27So you can see that here.
20:29So this property, just to clarify, that is the one you saw on the map.
20:34That's already zoned MRU.
20:36So really tonight we're just looking at this property to the south.
20:48Moving into our analysis, this is identified as campus services and framework.
20:54This does excuse me, this does conform to the plan and the uses identified in framework.
21:01You can see that campus services identification here.
21:07I've been moving through that.
21:10We did not receive any public comment.
21:12Do you have any questions for staff?
21:19The gas station on the corner there.
21:27They uh I'm presently reviewing their their LDP plans.
21:31Okay, that's gonna provide plenty of commercial use for guessing about the peers.
21:41Chairman, members of commission Al Cavanus with Cabinet's engineering representing Chase Adcox.
21:47Um and thanks to Leota for a good presentation.
21:50Doesn't leave me a lot to say sometimes.
21:52Uh we have looked at we first looked at this property and trying to deal with the with the good with the commercial zoning.
22:00Of course, that was the new map, and that's current use there.
22:04So understand why that's there.
22:06The uh can we go can we go back to that photo there?
22:10Please uh showing the yeah, there maybe maybe yeah, maybe even aerial view of the yeah.
22:23So the parking lot, the existing commercial retail there, uh the parking configuration is pretty creative, but it doesn't meet anything that would work now.
22:36So we would have to have 90 degree parking.
22:39Uh you but you take in your setbacks, you end up with about 40 feet of building depth if you were trying to build residential in there, which is not a real functional space.
22:51I don't think we want to build any more non-functional commercial space.
22:55Uh we looked at trying to just have a driveway by the building and park in the rear, and again, you just get you get an awkward piece of property with some depth there that you just can't really use for a good retail use.
23:09So then we looked at just doing the whole thing as with the same type development that that's been redone in Cloverdale.
23:17Um, we're about to permit one here in the next couple of weeks, the one of the remaining lots there that's in this photo.
23:25Um, so we're looking at triplexes.
23:28We're looking at four triplexes.
23:29We're at 54 beds right now.
23:33Uh that works out to like 57 beds an acre.
23:37We're way under the allowable zoning.
23:41Um this is uh this is where we are right now, but this is pretty close to where we're gonna be.
23:47We'll we'll develop this into a preliminary plant.
23:50You'll see next month that we're successful here.
23:53And um so this is this is our concept.
23:58We have uh, of course, a sidewalk along Hackberry that we'll be reconstructing.
24:04There's already a sidewalk north of us getting you to uh Wesley Place, and then there's a sidewalk we did a number of years ago along the lot on the north side there that gets you to the railroad, so it's uh very walkable to campus, and we feel like it fits in with the surrounding development, same type, same density, same type buildings uh that surround us.
24:28Uh so we think it fits in the neighborhood.
24:31I think it's a better use than then trying to force some commercial in a place that is way too narrow and way too deep for us.
24:40Are these leased by bedroom or by apartment or triple?
24:46Yeah, they're they're leased by at least by building or by unit by you list by unit.
24:55So if there's triplex each you would someone would sign a lease for first floor, second floor, third floor.
25:04But in reality, they're all signing individual leases for the bed.
25:08They're assigning individual leases.
25:11No, I don't think we're going to be able to do that.
25:12You're signing one lease.
25:15Yeah, but I a lot of them go into saying you gotta sign your own lease.
25:25I'm trying to figure out your number for your parking space.
25:29You got three number 55s on here.
25:33I counted them and you got spaces.
25:35I just trying to figure out your number.
25:42Where I'm where where are we over on the hard to hard to make copying text auto cad and not change the numbers?
25:55Anyway, there's a spell check, but there's not number check.
25:59Well, the this is a pretty easy one right here, but obviously we want to see those clearer picture next time you come up.
26:05You would see a much clearer picture on a preliminary, yeah.
26:07All right, any other questions for Mr.
26:15Anyone care to speak for or against this petition?
26:24Commission before us, we have Z 2325, Mr.
26:28Adcock petition to rezone 0.78 acres at 143 Hackberry Lane from UC to MRU.
26:36I have a motion and a second.
26:51See you next month, right?
26:57All right, Commission.
26:58Moving on to our next uh item here.
27:00It's a preliminary plot.
27:01This is S8325 Lake Hove Estates number four, consisting of nine lots on approximately 9.8 acres, located south of 11992 Grandview Lane and east of 12,004 Cherokee Drive.
27:16This is not in city limits.
27:17You can see we're pretty far up on the lake here off of 43.
27:22You can see there's one large parcel today.
27:27You can see more clearly here in the plat without contours.
27:31Um starting at the top, just moving south.
27:34I mean you can see about one acre lots or more as we move through this property.
27:39You did see this last May.
27:41Um they just need some more time to get rolling before um recording that final plot.
27:47We do have two uh variance requests here.
27:51We received one public comment.
27:52Do you have any questions for staff?
27:54Engineering on those variance requests.
27:56We don't have any objections.
28:03Members of the commission, Bobby Herndon.
28:062728, Larly and Wallace Boulevard Northport.
28:09Uh this is one that you guys uh we brought to you back last May, and then somebody in my office, namely me didn't keep a watch on the calendar, and the construction company hadn't got started yet.
28:22We've got approved construction plans ready to go.
28:26Um just the um we'll look at the time thing.
28:30We'd just like to get this renewed or reapproved.
28:35Um I can ask him, but I'm asking you is is same, no no changes, no.
28:42Uh it's the same as it was previously.
28:44I'll make sure of all right, and we approved it last time with a majority vote, obviously.
28:52Any questions for Mr.
28:56We do have someone that signed to speak, let's hear them out real quick.
28:59Let's favor have one person sign up, Mr.
29:12Well, Mike Butts 11837 Grandview Drive.
29:16Uh lot actually reside at lot 33 there uh at the end of Grandview Drive, not Grandview Lane, just for uh clearance uh purposes.
29:30Yeah, um so yes, this has been brought before the commission multiple times now and everything, and um I would like to ask um has the petitioner or the landowner submitted any restrictive covenants to the city for this um development for this subdivision.
29:52Staff is telling us no.
29:54I no there are no there have not been any restrictive covenants submitted.
30:06And then since the landowner essentially owns or is in control of approximately 10 acres, uh has a stormwater drainage study being conducted and the results of that submitted to the city.
30:24So the trigger for a drainage study at the preliminary plat phase is 10 acres.
30:29This would fall below that threshold.
30:32So we did not require a drainage study when this thing was approved in May.
30:38Even with the uh the county's right of way, does that is that can take in consideration of the 9.8 or is that eliminate the nine.
30:46No, it's already existing.
30:50So you're saying that a stormwater's drainage survey was not required for this for this.
30:56And like I said, the cut the threshold for a drainage study in our subdivision regulations is a development of 10 acres or more.
31:04And this is 9.8 acres.
31:06We did not require drainage study.
31:17In relation to the variances, which I know they have been approved and stuff, and we did have uh some of the concerns that I just wanted to make sure that those were kind of revisited.
31:29Um we wanted to make sure that the the street does maintain the current width and configuration and the new subdivision uh to make sure that they got a uniform design and appearance to both sides of the street.
31:47Uh so whatever's done on the new side, the new developed side is you know, lines up and matches with what's on the old side.
31:55Uh if there's any new right-of-ways uh required uh for this to go on the new side of the subdivision, um and that a provision for control of stormwater drainage uh be brought about because uh any new development.
32:12I know that in the past and other parts of uh other development in this area, there were some stormwater drainage issues from prior development in the neighborhood.
32:23Um I think that was even made part of the commission's meeting record back in 2019.
32:30Uh so that is a major concern for many of the residents that live in this part of the subdivision.
32:40Uh as far as CAP Sanitary Sewer, um I noticed on the plat application that the applicant had marked yes, where it asked if there are existing septic tanks and field lines, and to my knowledge, there's no septic tanks or field lines that exist on this property.
33:04Um do we know whether or not this the property will actually perk for uh for septic or not I mean these are questions you can ask.
33:24I mean that's yeah, we're we're not ignoring you.
33:27No, we're we're just trying to the developer can speak to these questions.
33:30Okay, like you want to.
33:32Well, this body really doesn't address that.
33:36That's a that's a decision or that that comes from the public health department, our environmental division of our public health department.
33:45If the property will not perk, then there will not be a structure built for it.
33:54I mean, that's just that's just as simple as it is.
33:58But this this is not a the forum to answer those questions.
34:02We okay that's the health department doesn't answer.
34:07Um and then as far as the construction, I know this is a major sticking point.
34:12I think last time uh the uh the turnaround uh at the end of Grandview Drive.
34:19Um as we discussed, you know, in previous meetings, we want to make sure that our that the developer presents and demonstrates a turnaround design that meets or exceeds the satisfaction and approval of the city engineer uh that the city would not allow the final plat to be signed until all infrastructure is in place before any lots are developed.
34:43Um there is a little bit of concern about how close that turnaround is to the Barksdale property line there.
34:53Um and then I'm not sure how this how this works, but a concern over the the change in elevation of how that would actually be uh developed and sloped.
35:00And then I'm not sure how this how this works, but a concern over the change in elevation of how that would actually be developed and sloped.
35:14And I think Tim, you had mentioned last time that a lot of this would probably wash out in the final LDP process.
35:23But again, I just I just kind of wanted to revisit all these concerns and kind of get a status update to see what has transpired transpired since the last time.
35:33You know, we were here and brought all this before the commission.
35:37I think the main point is just to ensure that the neighborhood retains its integrity, uh, that any new development enhances all of our properties.
35:48Um there are some concerns, you know, when if and when this does get start development starts about heavy equipment in and out, uh worker vehicular traffic parking up and down Grandview and Cherokee Drive.
36:06Um erosion or sediment control, things like that, uh keeping dirt and mud off the streets while uh development's going on, those kinds of things.
36:20So and um talking to some of my neighbors, they did have uh some concerns about the setbacks, particularly on I think it's number 37 40 and 41.
36:39Well, those uh setbacks are so narrow where it adjoined joins their property.
36:48Okay, all valid concerns.
36:53Get back to Tishner up here and again address some of those issues you brought up.
36:58I feel pretty confident nothing's changed from the previous you're talking about 37 41 and 42.
37:09That is correct, so let's bring the engineer back up.
37:14I think he can answer some of these along with our engineer.
37:22As far as the road construction, sorry, the uh the plans have been approved, and the contractor will use utmost care in taking care of the integrity of the street that's there, the yards, the driveways, uh they'll be put back if they're damaged, we'll put them back just in the same shape that they were in.
37:46Um as far as the setbacks, he's addressing on some of the some of the lots on some of the lights that have uh front setbacks are on two different streets, and so the side setbacks are a lot narrow, be like 10 feet instead of 30 or 35 feet.
38:03Um probably the rear setbacks on those three lots.
38:08Why are those not reflected?
38:12I thought I I say rear.
38:14I'm assuming that's the rear where it butts up against those existing houses.
38:19Um which lots though four circle ones there.
38:26Yes, it don't uh do we consider those side lots, side light lines, um because we've got two fronts as it is on those lights on the corner lights.
38:39They're using like on 37 using Cherokee as your front light, right?
38:44And then you're using that.
38:45I mean by by code, yeah.
38:47I get it, and see what you do when you maximize the building there building up getting somebody's backyard.
38:54Well, if um we can look at that with staff and see if we need to adjust that.
39:05Well, I think maybe a curtius thing to do when you build up against the start.
39:11I understand you get by with it because of the code, but it works, but I mean I think you can look at it and make that work that'd be happy to maybe a little more palliative.
39:20All right, we'll see what we can do.
39:30So the LDP process, will you review this?
39:34It still applies, yeah.
39:35It is in the county, but it still applies.
39:37So you're gonna you'll you'll maintain that.
39:39Yeah, and we it will get notified before construction starts.
39:43We that's part of the condition of the approved LDP.
39:46So we'll we'll we'll do monthly inspections of the construction activity.
40:00Uh to document and and in some cases, we uh you know we send out a letter to the developer, you know, if there's deficiencies when we were mentioning mud in the streets and so on and so forth.
40:11Our our office monitors that during the construction process.
40:19Can't recall where we landed on that.
40:21What's what's there now?
40:23There's not any curbing gutter in this area.
40:25No, not any it's gonna be what's that called channel.
40:29Yeah, well Burbig's no no curb and gutter of any kind.
40:34This is all asphalt, yes, sir.
40:36Okay, so you're not gonna do any kind of and that as we discussed before.
40:40There's a dedicated culture sac that the county has on the old plat there between lots 35 and 34.
40:49Well, that will be vacated by the county whenever the new cul de sac is built.
40:58It's not it's not constructed, it's just was dedicated on a plant from 50 something years ago.
41:13Okay, any other questions or you have a comments you want to make, Mr.
41:17Sir any other comments, no sir.
41:21Well, that being all I don't think new was brought up.
41:25So I mean, I feel like that we approved this before.
41:28Obviously, we've changed and improved some of our requirements.
41:32Um I can't see where anything surfaced that would cause me any kind of hard burn.
41:41Any other questions or comments from the staff or commission?
41:48Okay, all right, Commissioner.
41:52Before us, we have S 8325, Lake Cove Station 4, two variance requests, high street improvements cap sewer engineering has no issues with this.
42:02Is a petition we have approved before that being said, of a motion and a second.
42:12Hornsby, yes, yes, yes.
42:15Yes, yes, yes, yes, motion approved, or reapproved.
42:23All right, commission.
42:24Next up, we have another preliminary plat, S8525 Nolan addition to Spain Drive, consisting of two lots on approximately 13.6 acres, located at 15012 Spain Drive.
42:37This is not in city limits.
42:38You can see it we're pretty far north here on watermelon road.
42:42See that property today um already has a home on site, and they'd like to split it onto two lots, putting that house onto its own uh separate lot.
42:52You can see that without contours here.
42:54Um, it does not have any street frontage.
42:56You can see that access easement shown on lot one.
42:59Um and with that, we do have three variance requests.
43:02We did not receive any public comment.
43:04Do you have any questions for staff?
43:06Engineering on the variance report.
43:08We have no issues with those variance requests.
43:10Petitioner Kevin Hinkle with Montgomery and Hinkle Inc.
43:20Professional Land Surveyors.
43:21203 Harbor Road East.
43:24Tuscaloosa 35401 representing the Nolans, their uh family land uh sell the residents and hold on to the 10 acres.
43:37And that's what we're trying to obtain.
43:42Sir, any questions for the petitioner?
43:45I haven't heard nothing.
43:47Anyone care to speak for or against?
43:52Commissioner force, we have S8525 Nolan Edition.
43:57Revariance request engineering has no issues with a motion and a second.
44:16All right, another preliminary plot.
44:18S 8625, Brown addition to 24th Street.
44:21This is a resurvey of lots 42 through 44.
44:25JJ Harris survey of the mallet lands consisting of one lot on approximately 0.55 acres, located at 2622-24th Street, Council District 2.
44:35See, we're just west of I-359 here.
44:38You can see that lot today is vacant, does have that slab of concrete on site.
44:43You can see there's three remnant lots here.
44:45They're just cleaning up those uh lot lines kind of in the middle of uh the overall lot.
44:51Um you can see they're dedicating some right away as well, um, but really just a lot consolidation.
44:56We do have one variance request um for sidewalk construction.
45:00We did not receive any public comment.
45:02Do you have any questions for staff?
45:05No issues with that request.
45:07Petitioner Kevin Hinkle with Montgomery Ninkle Inc.
45:15Professional Land Surveyors 203 Hargo Road East, Tuscaloosa 35401.
45:21Representing the petitioner on this lot consolidation.
45:25Any plans on removing the concrete, giving up right away, and securing an easement for the sanitary sewer.
45:35Any questions for petitioner?
45:39Anyone care to speak for or against?
45:43Commission before us, we have S 8625.
45:48Uh, with one variance request sidewalk construction engineering has no issues with a motion and a second.
46:06Next up, S8725, resurvey of lot nine and ten, old farmhouse subdivision, consisting of one lot on approximately 6.3 acres located at 18495 John Swindle Road.
46:19This is not in city limits.
46:20You can see we're way far north here off of highway 43.
46:24There's two lots here today.
46:26Um they'd like to consolidate those to construct a house.
46:29You can see on the plan here and on that plat without contours, just removing that middle lot line.
46:36They do have one variance request.
46:38Uh we did not receive any public comment.
46:40Do you have any questions for staff?
46:42No issues with that request.
46:52Chairman, members of board of Michael McGuire with McGuire and Associates.
46:55Um she pretty much covered it.
46:57They're just moving.
46:58He owns both those lots and just moving removing that interior lot line so it doesn't conflict with his new house.
47:05Any questions for petitioner?
47:08Anyone care to speak for or against?
47:11Having heard none, Commission for us, we have S 8725.
47:15One variance request capsule.
47:17Engineering, no issues with.
47:33Next up, S 7825 SBR subdivision, consisting of two lots on approximately 10.6 acres located at and around 2701 31st Street.
47:44This is Council District 2.
47:46You can see we are just west of 359 here again.
47:50You can see those lots today.
47:52Just to clarify, this also includes this lot here today.
47:58You can see that in that flat with the contours here, creating two lots with con without contours here.
48:05This is that proposed lot line between those two lots.
48:13We have no public comment.
48:14Do you have any questions for staff?
48:17We don't have any issues with those requests.
48:24Chairman, members of the board, I'm Michael McGuire with McGuire Associates.
48:28So it's pretty much a similar thing here.
48:30They they don't really have any plans for this property at this moment, but they they are looking into developing it, so they wanted to go ahead and remove that interior lot line.
48:42Questions for petitioners?
48:43Having heard none, thank you.
48:44Anyone care to speak for or against this petition request?
48:48I haven't heard none.
48:49Commissioner Force have S8825, two variance requests.
48:53Engineering has no issues with a motion and a second.
49:05Anything else from staff tonight?