0:26Good evening, everyone, and welcome to this month's hearing of the Tuscaloosa Historic Preservation Commission.
0:31My name is Kathy Pagani.
0:33I'm the chair of the commission.
0:34And today's date is March 11th, 2026, and the time is 5 o'clock PM.
0:40I would like to invite my fellow commission members to introduce themselves to you, beginning on my right, please.
0:55And joining us from city staff this evening, we have Mr.
0:58Chad Hobbs, the senior associate city attorney.
1:01Zach Pons, Director of Planning, Mr.
1:03Josh McKinney, Zoning Administrator, and Ms.
1:06Cynthia DeSantiago Planner.
1:08Before we proceed to hear the applications for this evening, I would like to go over the purpose and the procedures for this meeting.
1:17The general purpose of the Tuscaloosa Historic Preservation Commission is that we serve to preserve and protect the buildings, sites, and structures of historic significance in Tuscaloosa's historic neighborhoods.
1:30We are governed by Chapter 20, Article 2 of the Code of Tuscaloosa, which includes design guidelines that are posted on the city's website.
1:39Our decisions are based on these design guidelines and do not consider use or occupancy.
1:45We do consider such factors as architectural style, appropriateness of materials, and how the structure relates to other structures in the immediate neighborhood in determining the appropriateness of the application.
1:57Any approval of an application requires five affirmative votes.
2:02If the certificate is approved, please be aware that there will be a final inspection by city staff of approved applications to ensure compliance with what was approved by the commission.
2:13Our procedures this need this evening are as follows.
2:16This is a public hearing.
2:29Prior to this meeting, notice was sent to adjacent property owners, and the public has been notified of the applications presented tonight.
2:37This hearing is a chance for the applicant to present his or her case, for the public to make their views known about the project, and for the commission members to gather relevant facts about the application before making its decision.
2:50City staff will begin by introducing the application.
2:53The applicant will then have a chance to make any comments.
2:56The commission members will then have an opportunity to ask the applicant questions about the case.
3:05At the close of public comment, the commission will discuss the matter and vote on the application.
3:11A notarized designation of agent form should have been provided to city staff or any representatives of the application that are not the property owner or immediate family member of the owner prior to tonight's hearing.
3:23Immediate family members, we define that as a spouse, a parent, or a child, do not have to provide such written authorization when speaking on behalf of another immediate family member.
3:33And we ask that you please leave the signs in your yard.
3:35City staff will be around in the next couple of days to pick them up.
3:41As the Historic Preservation Commission members have received the synopses of the November 2025 and February 2026 meetings, I move that we dispense with the reading of the minutes of the same unless there are any deletions, additions, or corrections.
4:00And we shall now vote.
4:01Beginning on my right, please, Mr.
4:11Um do I have a motion and a second to approve said synopses?
4:16And a second, please.
4:19And we shall vote beginning on my left, Mr.
4:29The commission members have had a chance to review tonight's agenda items.
4:33Do any of the members have a conflict of interest as defined by section six of the commission bylaws with any of these items?
4:41Hearing none, we shall move on.
4:43And I would like to ask staff if proper notification has been provided for each agenda item.
4:51And let's move to the first case.
4:55So it looks like our first applicant might not be present currently.
5:00Um maybe they're delayed due to the weather.
5:03But if y'all want to move that case to the end of the gym agenda so that it could give them time to come and we can start with that second case if that works for you guys.
5:14So we vote, or we just I don't think a vote's necessary.
5:18All right, that's fine.
5:20So we have we'll present then the second case.
5:32Good evening, Commission.
5:34Our case today is HPC0826, where Jackie Woskoware petitions for a certificate of appropriateness for the addition of an accessory structure on the property located at 16 Buena Vista in the Buena Vista Historic District, Council District 5.
5:51So here we have an aerial view of that property and where it's situated in its historic district for the first homes as you enter Buena Vista.
6:01Here we have a view of that property from the street.
6:06The adjacent property to the north to the east.
6:12So the petitioner is proposing to install a 16 by 10 foot shed with a wooden ramp in the rear yard.
6:19The shed will be about nine and a half to 11 feet tall, depending on the grading of the rear yard, and it'll be placed on leveled concrete blocks with wooden structural supports.
6:30The flooring will be made of plywood and its walls will be made of lumber.
6:34The exterior siding will be made of four by eight vertical panels of L'B smart side, which is a wood composite material made up of 80 to 95% wood.
6:43The roof decking will be constructed of strand board and finished with asphalt shingles to match the roofing material of the primary structure, and then the shed will be painted in a color similar to that of the primary structure.
6:57So here we have a site plan showing where that shed is proposed to be placed in the pink.
7:01It's gonna be about eight feet from that side property line.
7:07Here we have an example of what that proposed shed would look like, and a photo provided by the applicant of the proposed color for that shed.
7:16And the material the siding material you see in the example photo is LP Smart side, that vertical siding.
7:23Here is some other example photos provided by the shed company of LP Smart Side siding for their accessory structures.
7:34Here's the spec sheet for that siding.
7:36As you can see, it's about 80 to 95 percent wood, and the rest is a resin product.
7:44Here are the spec sheets for the shingles, as you can see, it circled in red.
7:49The charcoal color will match closely to the existing shingles on the primary structure.
7:56The materials for this project include wood, concrete blocks, plywood, LP smart side siding, strand board, asphalt shingles, and paint.
8:07Here are the design guidelines for storage and workshed.
8:10We received no public comment on this case.
8:12Are there any questions for staff?
8:16It appears we have none.
8:19Let me invite the applicant or the applicant's representative to step forward, please.
8:28And if you both could state your name and address for the record, please.
8:34Jackie Weskaware, 16 Buena Vista.
8:37Jasonware 16 Buena Vista.
8:41Is there anything else you'd like the commission to know about your application?
8:47Um, well, I guess I kind of did my research on the companies, and this company was is building on site, was the highest ranked I found of the ones that I found that call me back.
9:03Are there questions for the applicant?
9:09And let the record show that Ms.
9:11Stone has just joined the hearing.
9:14Um just wait for her to come and see if she has any questions for the applicant.
9:28Well, thank you very much.
9:29If something comes up in discussion, we'll invite you back.
9:32We've had no public comment submitted.
9:34Is there anyone here to speak in support of or opposition to this application?
9:39Then let me close the floor to public comment and open the floor to discussion by commission members.
9:49Hearing no discussion, I have a um standing motion to approve HPC 0826.
10:00Jackie Wuskaware petitions for certificate of appropriateness for the addition of an accessory structure on the property located at 16 Buena Vista in the Buena Vista Historic District Council District 5.
10:11Let's begin on my left, please, Mr.
10:22Thank you very much.
10:24Your application has been approved this evening.
10:26Should anything change from what was approved tonight?
10:30Please see city staff before you move forward.
10:32And good luck with your project.
10:43Our next case is HPC0926, where Brian Yokley petitions for a certificate of appropriateness for exterior alterations to the primary structure on the property located at 27 University Circle and the University Circle Historic District Council District 4.
11:01So here we have an aerial view of that property.
11:05And where it's situated in its historic district.
11:18To the east, to the south, and to the west.
11:25So the petitioner is proposing to construct a roof over an existing rear patio.
11:30This proposed roof will be standing seam flat metal and be made and will be made of 24 gauge steel.
11:37The proposed roof will be painted to blend in with the existing roof color.
11:41The petitioner proposes to add four new rock columns to the west end of the proposed roof for structural support, and two new 60-inch ceiling fans will be added to the roof to the ceiling of the roof along with an updraft exhaust fan over an existing outdoor grille.
11:59Here are some photos of how that rear patio looks like now.
12:03And the raw columns are shown in that picture on the right.
12:09Some more pictures showing the interior of that patio and the side of it.
12:16And what it looks like facing this the structure from the rear.
12:31And the length and width of the proposed roof addition.
12:36How tall it would be off of those steps to the patio.
12:42And again, here is that existing patio with no roof.
12:48As you'll probably see in your pockets, there are two extra fans shown in the diagram that was originally submitted on the right, but the applicant chose to go with only two 60-inch ceiling fans and then the updraft exhaust fan across or above the metal grill.
13:07Here's a rendering of that 16-inch standing flat sea metal roof.
13:16Materials for this project include steel roofing, rock columns, ceiling fans, and a metal outdoor exhaust fan.
13:24Here are the design guidelines for rehabilitation and alteration.
13:30For ducks, porches, and railings for roofs, and their materials.
13:36We received one written comment in support of this application.
13:40Are there any questions for staff?
13:44I have one question for you.
13:46So in looking at this application, I don't, and I've been on the commission for quite a while.
13:50I don't recall seeing some of that work that was done in the back.
13:54Did that come before the commission in the past?
13:57Yeah, I'll refer to Mr.
13:59Pons for that answer.
14:00All right, I'm just thinking the last 10 years.
14:01Have we did we see did we consider that?
14:04No, I don't see in our records that that was that that had come before the commission or through expedited review.
14:11Thank you very much.
14:16Um is this considered two front yards?
14:22This property is considered a through lot, is what we would call it.
14:27So it does have a front yard and then a secondary front yard, which would be that rear yard.
14:33So in relation to zoning, it would be um a two-thirds reduct or a one-third reduction.
14:39Basically, you have a front setback along university circle.
14:42You have a secondary front setback along 14th Avenue, um, which is a front setback reduced by one-third, and then you've got two side setbacks.
14:53So we use that um in zoning to determine the setbacks.
15:03Thank you very much.
15:04Let me invite the applicant or the applicant's representative to step forward, please.
15:10And if you don't mind, um both of you state your name and address for the record.
15:17My name is Shane Yokely, 27 University Circle.
15:21I'm Greg Thompson, representing Thompson contractors.
15:25So I do have a question to sort of start things off.
15:27Some of those changes that we've we see right now in that yard were that didn't come before the historic preservation commission.
15:35Do you know when those were done?
15:37I'm thinking about the rock faced columns, that sort of stuff.
15:42In 24 from the spring of 24.
15:49But they didn't come before the commission.
15:53I I can't say for sure if it's I did not bring the drawings.
15:56I do have some drawings that did come before the commission.
15:58I did not bring those with me.
16:00So this was approved by the commission, the stone columns, and I know they were on the drawings that were that were presented to the commission.
16:18Are there other questions?
16:21Who did those drawings?
16:25I think it was uh Centail.
16:28I can't say for sure I'd have to pull the other drawings from when that was done.
16:32I can't say for sure on that one.
16:34I know we have some drawings and stuff now.
16:37So there were some drawings that showed these two rock columns and the piece of metal.
16:46Well, the piece of metal maybe not.
16:47That was just a privacy screen.
16:50So, but I know we submitted a drawing that had the rock columns on it.
16:55But city staff, and I did not bring it with me.
16:58Yeah, we're looking.
16:59I it might not be in our GIS, which is where we look.
17:04So let me let me do some digging.
17:062024, you said was when it came forward.
17:08I think it was on the spring of 2014.
17:12I'll come back to you all.
17:14You have a good memory.
17:19Other questions in the meantime.
17:25All right, well, we'll let city staff continue their look there, and um if there are no more questions for you, we'll allow you to sit down for now.
17:35We may bring you back if something else comes up.
17:38And we'll just proceed with our discussion.
17:43So we've had one submitted comment in favor of the application.
17:48Is there anyone here to speak in support of or opposition to this application?
17:55Then let me close the floor to public comment.
17:58Let me check in with city staff and see what we have any additional information.
18:12I heard the clarification of setback given.
18:15Is there any questions about this one in relation to setback or no?
18:20It was more uh I think the the question about the two front yards because it's a through lot, had to do more with the design guidelines and application of design guidelines, um, front yard as opposed to backyard.
18:32I think that's where the thinking was going on that one.
18:41Pause just a little bit longer.
18:42Any discussion by commission members in the meantime?
19:25I do not think that they are in character with the rest of the neighborhood.
19:31And so if HBC approved them in 2024, that's one thing.
19:39But if they were not approved, and now we're asking for two or three more.
19:46Um I would say no to the columns because I don't think they're in the character of university circle, which is predominantly white brick and smooth.
20:01Thank you for your comments.
20:03And just the petition is shown.
20:06Is the screen gonna be removed?
20:08I don't see it in the so it'll be removed.
20:10The screen is removed.
20:12So it's not there now.
20:35Cynthia, while we wait, can we look at the other adjacent properties on around University Circle?
20:41Because University Circle is the historic neighborhood.
21:05And do we have the front of the property under consideration?
21:27Sorry for the delay.
21:28Um we do have uh it did go to the commission.
21:32It was it was kind of covered in that brick wall.
21:35That's what it was identified as, but there was also the stone arch that is currently existing was approved as part of that application.
21:42So the stone was the stone arch right there was approved.
21:47Okay by the historic preservation commission in 2024.
21:52With the stone columns, yes.
21:58Any further discussion?
22:03We have a standing motion to approve HPC 0926.
22:07Ryan Yokely petitions for certificate of appropriateness for exterior alteration to the primary structure on the property located at 27 University Circle in the University Circle Historic District.
22:20We shall vote, beginning on my right, please, Ms.
22:32Yokley, your application has been approved this evening.
22:36Um, should anything change, please see city staff before you move forward, and good luck with your project.
22:53Our next case is HPC 1026, where Price McGifford Jr.
22:58petitions for a certificate of appropriateness for exterior alterations to the primary structure on the property located at 1400 Caplewood Drive in the Caplewood Historic District, Council District 4.
23:10Here's an aerial view of that property and where it's situated in its historic district.
23:18Here's a view of that property from the street.
23:22The adjacent property to the east, to the west, and to the south.
23:31So the petitioner is proposing to construct a new three by sixteen-foot interior staircase on the right side of the primary structure facing Reed Street.
23:42The exterior alterations to the primary structure include removing and replacing various windows on the northern, eastern, and southern elevations.
23:50So in total, with a staircase addition, there will be nine new windows.
23:54On the eastern elevation, six new windows will be added, two windows with a four over one light pattern to match the existing windows, and four with a three over one light pattern.
24:04On the northern elevation, two windows will be added with a three over one light pattern, and on the south, two new windows will be added, one with a three over one light pattern, and then another one with a four over one light pattern, and all proposed windows are PVC.
24:21The proposed staircase edition will have a brick foundation to match the existing foundation of the primary structure, and the siding will be hardy board to match the look of the existing wood siding.
24:32The roof will be finished with asphalt shingles to match the existing asphalt shingles on the primary structure, and new wood core bills will be added to the extended roof line of the staircase edition in a style that matches the existing ones on the primary structure.
24:47An existing gable vent on the eastern elevation will be removed to accommodate that staircase addition, and that area that will be patched with wood and siding and then painted to match the rest of the exterior.
25:00The petitioner is also proposing to construct a new 16 by 13-foot wooden deck at the rear of the primary structure with columns and stairs.
25:08It'll be made of treated wood and not painted.
25:11The railing for the deck will be three feet tall, and a new fiberglass door is proposed to replace an existing window on the rear elevation to access the deck.
25:20The proposed fiberglass door will be white and include a centered nine-pane fiberglass window.
25:28So here we have that elevation where their staircase will be added.
25:48And here is the proposed elevation for the cable wood drive.
26:06And then the dimensions of the addition.
27:27And for the new rear door, circled there in red.
27:34Materials for this project include PVC windows, a fiberglass door, wood, white paint, asphalt shingles, hardy board siding, and hardy board panels, and brick.
27:46Here are the design guidelines for rehabilitation and alteration for additions.
27:55For trim and ornament and for ducks, porches, and railings for foundations and their materials for roofs and their materials, and for windows and their materials.
28:11We received no public comment on this case.
28:13Are there any questions for staff?
28:18It appears we have none.
28:20Let me invite the applicant or the applicant's representative to come forward.
28:33And would you state your name and address for the record, please?
28:36I'm Price McGifford Senior, 1313 Indian Hill Circle Tusclose.
28:43Is there anything else you'd like to tell the commission about this project?
28:48There's two things that we're trying to do.
28:51One is to we totally changed the look last summer by painting it and uh roof and so forth.
29:00And um raised the deck up where it settled and all the stuff, and then we out of time.
29:08Well, we decided we'll stop what we're doing instead of trying to piecemeal it together.
29:13Um, and I total price that we have only one exit in this house.
29:21Wherever anybody is, they can't get out.
29:24So I said, why don't we take move the laundry room, change the kitchen up, put a door out of the kitchen to the rear and build a deck just like Rumsey has next door, and just like we had approved two doors down on our other house, one of our other six in there.
29:41So that's the plan here where we're going and the windows are just an awful shape.
29:50That's why we're trying to redo the windows.
29:53Now the staircase on the right side used to be out there.
30:02And uh you see right there.
30:04So we're gonna clean up the rest of the wires that are there.
30:07We we we hauled off a truckload of cable TV and ATT and everything else is on there.
30:14We stripped them all out and had as much as we could without damaging where we were, and then um probably end up having to work on the service area.
30:25You see, that's the service which you see right there.
30:28I mean, it's it's legal, but it once we move do some stuff and have to move it, we'll have to change that.
30:35But um the uh the staircase on the inside here would be pulled, be built out here where the original staircase was.
30:47See, there was a porch and then it came off and went down, is what I understand.
30:52And there's the stairs are inside that go up to the bed, there's three bedrooms upstairs.
30:59So I think most of these things are safety issues as much as anything, but it will be nice for them to have that deck and another exit, and then the windows will be a whole lot better than what they are now.
31:14We we did all we could do to make them look better.
31:20Are there any questions for Mr.
31:24I have a question, Mr.
31:26On the the staircase, how much of the existing exterior wall is gonna be removed?
31:36The current exterior wall.
31:37Is it basically just gonna be a uh an opening for the top of the stairs and the opening at the bottom of the stairs?
31:46You talk about the the stair the the staircase we're building on the end of the house, not the deck and the stairs going back.
31:54Um it will come out where the door is, right?
31:57And it'll be built right there to that elevation, or either we'll take it down to the main floor and do that and then build the staircase going up.
32:06Okay, and where there's where the staircase uh I'm just I'm concerned about the um the existing facade and the exterior paneling there, how much that'll be removed if any it's not gonna be a problem.
32:17It will it will blend right into where we're going.
32:21Uh I think it's gonna take uh all three of those windows right there, is where we'll have to start with where we are, and then we'll try to make it look like that inside and outside look the same.
32:37If you'll go back, Steph, if you go back to just the existing photograph elevation of that.
32:47This one really the main question I'm asking is if in some future instance someone wants to make this building look just like this photograph again.
32:58Is that gonna be possible?
33:04And the inside staircase will go away.
33:06That'll become room in the house, and the bathroom that you go in now that's that was done when we bought the house.
33:15You walk in the bathroom like this.
33:20I mean, seriously, it's that you go under the stairs and you go in like this, and the we had one boy move in that was over six feet tall, and we had to reverse the shower head this fall so he could take a shower on the high end of the ceiling in the bathroom, believe it or not.
33:37And that's when we decided, hey, we got to do something here.
33:41So that will give us by putting the staircase on the outside in that channel going up, then we'll have more room inside to do what we want to do there.
33:54All that will be done together at the same time, hopefully, sometime this summer is what we're shooting for.
34:02Uh a little price says, Oh, Dad, you can do it in May.
34:08So I don't know if that's gonna happen or not, but we're gonna try.
34:17It appears we have no more questions for you.
34:25We've had no submitted public comment for this application.
34:29Is there anyone here to speak in support of or opposition to this application?
34:34Then let me close the floor to public comment and open the floor to discussion by commission members.
34:42I think over the life of this structure, there's been some work done, and obviously it was not the exact original state prior to this work being done, and this addition is very deliberate in its attempt to make it be integral with the overall um structure as it stands today.
35:05We have a standing motion to approve HPC 1026.
35:10petitions for certificate of appropriateness for exterior alterations on the primary structure on the property located at 1400 Caplewood Drive in the Capewood Historic District.
35:21Council District 4, we shall vote beginning on my left, Mr.
35:35McGifford, your application has been approved this evening.
35:39Should anything change?
35:41Let the city staff know before you proceed.
35:44And good luck with the project.
36:04I'm waiting on sorry.
36:07Um so it does not look like the applicant for that first one that we moved down to the last is here.
36:15Um the applicant has a right to appear uh and be heard by the commission, but their presence is not required for the commission to hear an application.
36:30Um so the commission can go ahead and hear the application and approve it or deny it or take whatever other action it deems appropriate.
36:39Um generally an application under the city code cannot be continued without the consent of the owner.
36:49I would like to suggest that we move ahead with this.
36:51The applicant had been notified about the hearing tonight.
36:55Um we have all the materials, I believe, that to consider this case.
37:01And since the application applicant is not here for us to request a continuance, I say we move forward.
37:16Okay, so our last case is HPCO726, where Jim Waltman petitions for a certificate of appropriateness for exterior alterations to the primary structure on the property located at 2007, Maxi Thomas Sway in the Druid City Historic District, Council District 4.
37:35So here's an aerial view of that property where it's located in its historic district.
37:42Here's a view of that property from the street, the adjacent property to the west, to the east, to the north.
37:54So the petitioner is proposing to remove two existing raw iron porch supports at the entrance of the primary structure and replace them with wooden rectangular post.
38:04The post will be eight feet tall to match the existing height of the raw iron supports and will be made of pressure treated pine and painted white.
38:14No alterations will be made to the existing porch roof.
38:18So here are some pictures of what those raw iron porch supports look like now.
38:25And here are some example photos that the applicants admitted of what those rectangular wooden posts would look like.
38:32And this is an adjacent structure.
38:36So the materials for this project include wood and white paint.
38:40Here are the design guidelines for rehabilitation and alteration.
38:46For porches and railings for entrances and doorways, and the materials.
38:54Are there any questions for staff?
39:01No questions, but let the record show that Ms.
39:04Stone will abstain or recuse herself from this particular case.
39:12And since the applicant is not here to represent the case, I'll move on to public comment.
39:17We've had one submitted comment in support of.
39:24Seeing none, I'll close the floor to public comment, open the floor to uh discussion by commission members.
39:31Any concerns or thoughts on this case?
39:36We have a standing motion to approve HPC 0726.
39:41Jim Waltman petitions for a certificate of appropriateness for exterior alterations to the primary structure located on the property at 2007 Maxi Thomas Way in the Druid City Historic District, Council District 4.
39:56Let's begin on my right, please, Mr.
40:09Nate Abstain, after all.
40:14And uh because I don't, it does not avoid removing the historic material or significant architectural features in that the iron material was noted previously as a descriptor of the Thank you, and thank you for providing that rationale.
40:32So that appears that we have not received five affirmative votes.
40:38This application has not been approved.
40:41City staff, will you please let the applicant know about that and let them know how they can move forward with their with their application if they wish to that's all we've got for y'all tonight?
40:59And with that, this hearing is adjourned.