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Finance Committee Meeting – October 27, 2026

City Council Meetings — Tuesday, October 27, 2026
BodyTuscaloosa, Alabama
SessionCity Council Meetings
DateTuesday, October 27, 2026
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Speaker 1

0:00

Are there any mo other questions or comments from Ms.

0:03

Standard or anybody?

Unassigned speaker

0:09

All right.

Unassigned speaker

0:10

Sir

Speaker 1

0:10

a motion.

Speaker 2

0:11

Motion.

Speaker 1

0:12

For a second.

0:18

I will second.

0:21

All in favor say aye.

0:23

Aye.

0:24

Done.

Unassigned speaker

0:26

Okay.

Speaker 1

0:27

Item number eight.

0:28

Authorization to execute an agreement with Millen with Standards to prepare the actuarial valuations.

Speaker 3

0:36

Yes.

0:37

This is a request to enter into an agreement with Millman, who is an actuarial firm to do our valuations for Gaz B 67 and 68 for our hourly pension plan.

0:48

If you will recall, we now only have three pension plans since the police and fire pension has moved to RSA.

0:55

The hourly pension is still one of them, and it will be an ongoing plan until all of the participants are no longer on the plan.

Speaker 2

1:04

Can you explain?

1:06

So we

Speaker 3

1:07

have a

Speaker 2

1:07

I got place and fire,

Speaker 3

1:08

but

Speaker 2

1:09

what are the other ones we have?

Speaker 3

1:10

So the original four pension plans that we had were police and fire pension plan, which you're aware of, RSA, which you're aware of.

1:18

There is a police and fire supplemental pension plan that was for higher ranking higher paid individuals to supplement their retirement because the police and fire pension was noticed to be as you know it was a brotherhood pension as and the payouts were so low, the higher ranking officers were the ones that had contributed the most money into it, but we're getting the lower payout.

1:39

So it was a more of a supplemental style plan.

1:41

Does

Speaker 2

1:42

it

Speaker 3

1:42

go away?

1:43

No, sir, that one's ongoing.

1:44

It's a completely separate plan.

1:45

It is closed though.

1:47

Nobody else can get into it.

1:48

Okay.

1:49

But who

Speaker 2

1:50

are in that car?

Speaker 3

1:51

Currently, there's five five people that are being paid out of it.

1:55

Um there are a few more people that are currently employed that actually qualified for it, but because we have now gone to RSA, they are not now eligible for any benefit from it.

2:07

Does that make sense?

2:09

Um okay, so that was that was the third one was the supplemental plan, and then the hourly plan is the last one.

2:14

The hourly plan was one that was um implemented, you know, back in the late 1990s, early 2000s, when we were moving some of the hourly employees into RSA, but they were allowed an opt-out option, and they could stay in this hourly pension fund if they wanted to opt out of RSA.

2:31

So it is it's a closed plan, also nobody else can go into it.

2:35

Um, and we're but we just have to continue getting the valuation done and pay in the liability for them every year.

Speaker 2

2:43

But ultimately, we will are headed eventually to just one.

Speaker 3

2:47

Yes.

2:48

I uh I don't think that I will see that day, but yes.

Speaker 1

2:54

Okay.

2:55

Actuarial

Speaker 3

2:56

yes, so yeah, so this is the act

Speaker 1

2:58

more, right?

Speaker 3

2:58

Yes, so this is the oh well.

3:00

Do you want to vote on vote on

Speaker 1

3:01

you were you were enumerating the four, I think, Mr.

3:04

Hendry.

3:04

No, that was a

Speaker 3

3:05

that was the

Speaker 1

3:05

fourth one,

Speaker 3

3:06

yeah.

Speaker 1

3:07

Okay, any other questions, comments

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Fiscal Sustainability█████████████████████████████████████████████81%
Personnel Matters███████████19%
Summary of Proceedings

Finance Committee Meeting – October 27, 2026

The finance committee convened on October 27, 2026, to consider three agenda items regarding actuarial and arbitrage valuation service agreements. Committee members discussed the status of the city’s pension plans and approved all items unanimously.

Discussion Items

  • Item 8 – Authorization to execute an agreement with Milliman for actuarial valuations: A motion was made to approve an agreement with Milliman, an actuarial firm, to prepare valuations for the city’s hourly pension plan (plans GASB 67 and 68). Discussion clarified that the city now has three pension plans (the police and fire pension having moved to RSA, leaving the hourly plan, the police and fire supplemental plan, and the OPEB health insurance fund for retirees). The hourly plan is a closed plan from the late 1990s/early 2000s; it will continue until all participants are no longer on it. The presenter noted that the cost for each valuation would be paid by the respective plan itself.
  • Item 9 – Authorization to execute an agreement with Kavanaugh McDonald for actuarial valuations: A motion was made to engage Kavanaugh McDonald, another actuarial firm, to perform valuations for GASB 67, 68, and 75 for the police and fire pension fund (which ended October 1, 2026), the police and fire supplemental pension plan, and the other post‑employment benefit (OPEB) health insurance plan for retirees. The supplemental plan currently has five people being paid out and a few more eligible but no longer accruing benefits.
  • Item 10 – Authorization to execute an agreement with Arbitrage Group: A motion was made to enter into an agreement with the Arbitrage Group to perform arbitrage valuations for all outstanding debt issuances. Costs are estimated between $1,000 and $1,500 per debt issuance and cover series 2016 A/B, 2019 A, 2020 A, 22 A/B/C, 25 B/C, and 26 A/B. The valuations are required by law every three years, but the city performs them annually for conservative planning. Payment will come from outside services budget.

Key Outcomes

  • Item 8: Approved unanimously by voice vote (all aye).
  • Item 9: Approved unanimously by voice vote (all aye).
  • Item 10: Approved unanimously by voice vote (all aye).
  • The meeting was adjourned following the conclusion of business.

Meeting Transcript

Are there any mo other questions or comments from Ms. Standard or anybody? All right. Sir a motion. Motion. For a second. I will second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Done. Okay. Item number eight. Authorization to execute an agreement with Millen with Standards to prepare the actuarial valuations. Yes. This is a request to enter into an agreement with Millman, who is an actuarial firm to do our valuations for Gaz B 67 and 68 for our hourly pension plan. If you will recall, we now only have three pension plans since the police and fire pension has moved to RSA. The hourly pension is still one of them, and it will be an ongoing plan until all of the participants are no longer on the plan. Can you explain? So we have a I got place and fire, but what are the other ones we have? So the original four pension plans that we had were police and fire pension plan, which you're aware of, RSA, which you're aware of. There is a police and fire supplemental pension plan that was for higher ranking higher paid individuals to supplement their retirement because the police and fire pension was noticed to be as you know it was a brotherhood pension as and the payouts were so low, the higher ranking officers were the ones that had contributed the most money into it, but we're getting the lower payout. So it was a more of a supplemental style plan. Does it go away? No, sir, that one's ongoing. It's a completely separate plan. It is closed though. Nobody else can get into it. Okay. But who are in that car? Currently, there's five five people that are being paid out of it. Um there are a few more people that are currently employed that actually qualified for it, but because we have now gone to RSA, they are not now eligible for any benefit from it. Does that make sense? Um okay, so that was that was the third one was the supplemental plan, and then the hourly plan is the last one. The hourly plan was one that was um implemented, you know, back in the late 1990s, early 2000s, when we were moving some of the hourly employees into RSA, but they were allowed an opt-out option, and they could stay in this hourly pension fund if they wanted to opt out of RSA. So it is it's a closed plan, also nobody else can go into it. Um, and we're but we just have to continue getting the valuation done and pay in the liability for them every year. But ultimately, we will are headed eventually to just one. Yes. I uh I don't think that I will see that day, but yes. Okay. Actuarial yes, so yeah, so this is the act

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