Remember that.

She, because I do every Ryan would bring his crew in the middle of the video.

Tonight's a work session.

It's more informal.

It gives you all a chance to have a more informal discussion and not have to abide by the rules of procedure quite as carefully for regular meetings.

We're up here at the dais.

Um, but for work sessions.

When you have your regular meetings, do you does it public is there private public?

There really isn't.

We've we record it, we publish the agendas just like with council meetings and all the other commissions, but we haven't had a lot of public.

Um just for the meeting.

I thought he was coming in here just to see us.

Um, but as I was walking over, I was noticing just how abysmal Fairbanks Drive is looking.

The reason I'm looking at Meg is because we we have a long-term project that's been on the shelf that some of us keep bringing back.

And it is when they do redo Fairbanks Drive.

Um we should look at the um town plaza concept again.

And I was hoping he was coming in, so I could ask him.

We can snag him.

Though he walked by my office and he said, Do I have to be there?

I said, No, it's okay.

No, it's like asking that.

That is that's Nate Deval, he's the city manager.

Okay.

I haven't had him yet.

He's such a nice man.

He is a longtime capital facilities director.

He was in that job for just over five years, six years, I think.

Well, that's before I trip before I retired, and I'm going on eight years.

Okay.

Yeah, because he was years ago.

Original discussion happened before the fire station.

And I think he was a project.

Did he come in as capital facilities director?

Yeah, because he was across the day before that.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, but some of us want the town plaza.

That's a controversial thing.

Oh, city center, like the sign says at 22 miles before you get here.

Yeah.

So it it's it we need it.

There's a we'll talk about it at some point because it's not on our agenda tonight.

But we we have the drawings that a architect drew up for consultant that came in and helped us with the Egan Street improvements and had some other ideas for us.

It's a really good idea.

So okay, I'm just gonna take note.

So on that Fairbanks Street one, I mean, and I don't know because I'm just new to this and stuff, but you know, and I don't know how all this works yet, and I'll we'll get more familiar with it.

But I think I spoke, you know, to you a little bit when I asked before I even you know did the application is just you know, when all these improvements happen, they're all beautiful.

I see them all over town, but then it's like putting lipstick on a pig if nobody gets in on board and just kind of you don't even have to hang one basket, you don't even have to do but just to clean up your property like Mo and Weed Whack and just keep so that way it just kind of it looks clean because we have a lot of natural beauty, you know.

But I just kind that's how I feel.

I don't know how you guys feel.

You may have a lot of people.

I think that comes up a lot, and yeah, you know, the long and the short of it is nobody's gonna tell anybody what to do.

Um we barely can get people to get derelict cars off their lots, even offering to help them get them off the lot.

Um Alaskans being what we are, you don't tell people how long their grass can be.

But if we set the bar by having you know, like the matching grant, people improving their property.

Um we haven't done anything with with personal property, but that could be you know someday.

Years ago, they used to have a um to uh adopt block.

I think it was called the docked block, and that was cleaning up, yeah.

So it's clean up your neighborhood, and and that went well, but it still didn't get rid of like derelict cars and that kind of stuff, which we topper is like really bad, right?

It's so bad.

And it's it there are plenty of code violations, but the code enforcement officer is busy.