0:02So looks like we're ready to roll.
0:04It's Thursday, February 19th, 2026, 4 30 p.m.
0:08Uh, we're gonna call this meeting to order.
0:10It's the regular meeting of uh City of Walkshaw Water Utility Commission.
0:15Uh roll call, please.
0:26Oh Commissioner Frankur?
0:35Commissioner Matthews.
0:38Maybe we'll determine Commissioner Riley.
0:42Commissioner Bartels.
0:47There's no public in attendance for public comment.
0:51Nothing was submitted.
0:52Move on to approval of the minutes.
1:01These are the minutes from uh January of 2026.
1:06Questions or comments on the minutes.
1:09All in favor say aye.
1:16I just want to let you know I said aye.
1:18Well, you're learning.
1:26Boy, this is getting a rough crowd.
1:32This moves us on to uh five action items.
1:34Uh approved payments on the general fund and the improvement fund.
1:39Three motion, the mayor second.
1:43So on the first page, you're gonna see um a payment to N Harris Computer Corporation for $82,000.
1:52That's our CIS version 5 billing software upgrade.
1:55So that's the first payment that we did.
1:57So it's starting, but the actual conversion won't take place till the end of the year.
2:02So I think it's the end of the year.
2:04Um diggers hotline invoice.
2:07You'll see there's two payments that are made to diggers hotline.
2:11Um, and that is there's one on the second page, and then that one is for um the annual.
2:19I shouldn't say that there it's the annual pay prepayment of all the 2026 hotline tickets, and then the January ticket.
2:26So there's that's why it's so high.
2:28I'm sorry, there's one payment, but it's higher because they're prepay for the entire year, and then at the end of the year we reconcile anything.
2:37Um that was all that I have that one.
2:40Yeah, is uh have we gotten any feedback?
2:42I mean, it has the locating companies like this for our fiber and the water this is so that digger's hotline is for the tickets.
2:51Yeah, and then and then we have the company that we do the third party that does that.
2:56I guess that's my question.
2:57I think there's like company they're accurately relocating our facilities mainly out of the municipality and farm aware.
3:07Now we got all the transfer box locations phone.
3:11I haven't heard anything.
3:14Not hearing anything is good.
3:22I'll just do Dan on the return flow where it says Smith Group Incorporated.
3:28What does that entail?
3:29That is an electrical, is it?
3:31That is no, that is so Brent Brown was the person that worked for Jacobs that was helping us with our return flow monitoring program.
3:40He now went moved to the Smith group, and since he has all the information and all the background with related to how we're doing things with Parkside and USGS.
3:50So he's just continuing on and that's the speech.
3:53Is this a monthly billing?
3:55Um, well, we get a monthly bill from them, but some months is higher, depending on what they're doing.
4:02I think he's also working on the diversion report.
4:04Yes, the diversion report is due at the end of the month.
4:06So that's been uh a heavy push.
4:18Hearing none, all in favor say aye.
4:26I can't get all the words out at the same time, Mayor.
4:30All right, that's true.
4:32I don't have to vote.
4:35All right, let's move on to item C.
4:38Um, I mean, I'm sorry, item B.
4:40Uh approve the water main replacement unit price contract and one percent city administration fee totaling 407,78.18 cents for the Walksh water utilities portion of the city of public works contract with one Dale Contractors Inc.
4:56for the bidwell and prospect utility and street improvements.
5:00So move the week scepted as proposed front for a second.
5:07All right, Matt, is this you?
5:12Um, so this is the area for the the water main relays on prospect and bidwell.
5:18Dellfield street was done um, I believe in 2017.
5:22Also was relaid in around the same time, I think shortly after that.
5:28So there's just uh it's roughly 1400 feet of eight inch water main that needs to be relayed between Delafuel and Barstow and then Barstow and the dead end.
5:37Um prospect, there's a stretch that was relaid up in the golf course around 2014.
5:43So we're just finishing off those areas.
5:47Um so there was six bids for the for this project that was open for public works on Friday, January 23rd.
5:56Um bidder was one Dell contractors for the water main total of 403,671 dollars and 47 cents.
6:07Uh Board of Public Works has approved as well as common council has approved the wondell contractors.
6:13Um this was approved as part of the 2026 budget with the estimate of 836,175.
6:23So we are well under bid, which is good.
6:27Um so the motion is to approve the water main replacement unit price and contract and one percent city administration fee totaling 407,000 dollars, 407,708 dollars and eighteen cents for the water utilities portion, the city of Waxhaw public works contract with Wandell contractors for the bidwell and prospect utility street improvements questions for Matt.
6:57It's been gone through with the contractor.
7:00The it well, I see the other ones are lower than 800,000 too, but uh no discrepancies, they bid it all.
7:09At this point, have we worked frequently with Wandell?
7:16They did green metal last year.
7:19They've been doing a lot more projects.
7:21They were a different company before.
7:23Um they were, but they changed names to Wandell.
7:27So questions for Matt.
7:33Are they subbing out the utility?
7:35The water is getting subbed out.
7:36Yeah, so one delta's the the prime the general okay.
7:41So that's water somewhere else.
7:47All right, any other questions?
7:49All right, all in favor say aye.
7:58All right, we'll move on to action item C.
8:00Approve the developers agreement for Meadowbrook Senior Living Development at no cost the utility.
8:16So this is for a um upcoming senior living development.
8:20As you can see on the map, it is just north of Coldwater Creek and west of Meadowbrook.
8:25Um, it's part of the smart family trust.
8:28They have all the farmland up there.
8:30Um, so it's it's part like the first part of uh several phase development, and it's just for the water main that's gonna go around the um this senior living facility.
8:43Is there another map?
8:45So that's the box for the water main.
8:47So that's where the that development is going in that portion.
8:52They split so this split this whole property here.
8:58Oh wow into three different lots now.
9:01So there's a new CSM that came through.
9:03Like this is lot one that's gonna be a future business.
9:06It's or it's zoned for business.
9:10This is the property of where the new uh senior living is, and then everything around it is gonna be um single family or multifamily.
9:20Part of what they were proposing was senior living, more of like a condo, and then that way they could transition from that into the um high rise not or not high-rise facility, but it assisted living memory care.
9:38Yeah, so in your package, you can see sorry, there's kind of um so Tom Canka of Tuca properties reached out in October to ask for the water main extension.
9:53It consists of 119 unit residential care apartment complex.
10:05There is gonna be eight residential services that'll be stubbed on the north side of the property for future part of the future development so that they can finish the road and not have to come back into the road, and then one eight inch commercial service to the facility itself.
10:23The design from the and the review from DNR was completed and approved on January 15th, and the developers agreement is our standard 24 month agreement with no exceptions.
10:34There was also a CSM that was done that includes uh 30 foot water main utilities meant around the property because there's all private private roads.
10:44So all the things that you just described are not up there in blue at all.
10:49No, so this is our current this is the main that we currently have.
10:54So it'll be connecting on to this short stub here, and then uh if you look in your packet, I don't know.
10:59I must have missed the slide.
11:01Um it's not mine, but that's okay.
11:03Yeah, so there show here there's a that's gonna be the loop.
11:08If you go to the next page page, yeah, that's all that uh so that's in this it comes off of here and then loops around in here, and then the rest of it's the future development.
11:27And in there, will that be public or private main?
11:31It's public water main in a private side in a private traffic.
11:40So you do get the loop as opposed to not having it.
11:43So it'll be looped around and then stubbed out for future the future development of it, like this the stuff to the west.
11:49They add it, but they didn't want to do it all at once.
11:52So what about the conclusion of it?
11:56Is it still gonna be dead ended on to the left side of that picture?
12:01So for now it'll be stubbed similar to the way it is on there.
12:05Oh, there's a stub going to the north, it'll be set up with a hydrant on the end to take off for future development.
12:17Yeah, so yeah, it's this is kind of the area where we're trying to get that arrowhead loop, and until we can get a good solid path from smart how he wants to develop the whole property.
12:28It'll eventually all be connected together and looped.
12:32Um, it's just depending on their phasing of when they're ready for the new subdivisions, or to continue adding on to it.
12:46We're reaching our boundaries.
12:49He's been trying to do this for years.
12:53Maybe have plans in front.
12:57I think this was originally he was trying to do it over off a summit, I guess, by the church before they proposed it there and then they moved up to this area.
13:10Jonah and I have seen it numerous times.
13:17Any other questions?
13:20All right, all in favor say aye.
13:25All right, thank you, Matt.
13:27All right, this to D approve the purchase of materials in the amount of 152,961 dollars and 62 cents from Ferguson, and 152,951 dollars and 74 cents from Corn Main for a total of 305,913 and 36 cents.
13:48So move second frank core second.
13:54All right, all right.
13:58So request for quotations for the purchase of our 2026 materials for inventory and repair parts for received from Ferguson and Corn Main on February 2nd of 2026.
14:09Both Ferguson and Corn Main will hold pricing until basically next week when we hopefully after you approve this, we can set the orders out.
14:18Um, there was issues in the past, the corn main not holding it pricing, but pricing's become more steady, it's not fluctuating as much as possible.
14:26Low the price of materials have substantially gone up, they're both very competitive.
14:34So we have reviewed the quotes, and as in years past are proposing to split between the two firms, keeping like items together as far as like bell boxes and hydrants ordering from one firm rather than splitting every individual item between everybody.
14:52Funds for these materials were taken out of several accounts in the budget, and they're roughly 330,000 in the budget for these parts.
15:00So the motion is to approve purchases an amount of 152,961.
15:11And I think this memo got updated and was not maybe not updated in the packet.
15:19We there was a change in the price on the corn main one.
15:23It's correct in the package.
15:24It's correct in there.
15:25Sorry, the slide is right.
15:26Slide is wrong in the packet.
15:28This price is right.
15:30So it's 153,522.09 cents to corn main.
15:35Oh for a total of 306,483.
15:40There was a fix-up on my part when I was putting the bolt count in because both of them supplied different quantities per bucket, and the quantities got messed up in the bucket amounts.
15:53So there was a little bit of a difference there.
15:55But the motion on the memo is correct, right?
15:58Yeah, motion's right there.
16:01So we don't have to correct the motion.
16:03Well, the motion says 150 to go quick.
16:07There was an update.
16:08Says that of the motion oh here at the very bottom.
16:13The motion on the memo says correct.
16:19Glad you pointed that out because I was gonna spin up confusion.
16:30That's still 152 on the memo.
16:38So the memo was outdated.
16:40So uh look at the very the very bottom, the recommended one is right.
16:48Why don't you just state the dollar amount again?
16:53Yeah, so the it's easier to move to approve the purchase materials in the amount about 152,961 and 62 cents from Ferguson, yeah, and 153,522 dollars and nine cents from corn main.
17:11Okay, um so Jerry, you agree.
17:18Yes, okay, and we're good.
17:20All right, fall in favor say aye.
17:22Aye, opposed, abstain.
17:26Right, that brings us out of action items into discussion items.
17:37Um the new operation center is the first one, so that would be oh that would be somewhat.
17:45Oh, and that one I didn't turn the page, sorry.
17:48Um okay, uh new operations center update.
17:58So they're moving along good.
18:00This warm weather is really helping out.
18:02Um, as you can see on the picture, they have the roof is now complete on the shop area, so all the rubber is on the roof, um, and it is basically ready now for to get solar panels.
18:15Uh the office part in the front is all framed.
18:19They are doing the framing around the outside of the office currently.
18:24Uh, and they're they're working on finishing that roof.
18:27They're trying to get everything closed in so they can start working on pouring slabs and uh getting heat in.
18:34They do have heat in the it'd be the left side of the building up there that's all pretty much closed in and it's heated to the ground is thawed, so they can go in and when they have time, they can fall back and pour slabs and inside and keep it heated.
18:48So that's just the picture on the inside.
18:53This is the office area now.
18:54As you can see with the warm weather, everything's thawing and is creating a little bit of a mess out there right now with the snow and the frost coming out of the ground, but or the dust they're getting there.
19:09Uh, and then this would just be the the far west end looking over the building again.
19:14You can see the roof is completed.
19:17Uh the windows are in around most of the building.
19:19The I think the only spot that the windows aren't in are in the office area where the framing's not quite finished and the sheeting's not on, but the windows are in the rest of it.
19:27They do have the doors for the wash bays blocked off so they can keep heat in, try to get the ground pod and everything inside of there.
19:36But the site it's holding up really well.
19:39Like I said, with the warm other is getting a little sloppy in some areas, so they're doing the best they can to keep it clean, and everything seems to be moving along really well.
19:50So on time and under budget.
19:58Solar panels are going on, yes.
20:06Questions for Matt on the operations center.
20:12All right, let's move on to the uh 2026 blanket field vendor changes.
20:17So there was a few changes to the um memo that we to the there's no attachment to this.
20:34I thought they might, I thought it was in the tech.
20:37There were a few changes that were made in the blanket purchase order since we approved them in December.
20:44Um one of them is corporal for the safety and climbing equipment.
20:49Um that company has changed to Vickery contracting.
20:54So we're just making that update on the purchase orders.
21:00Same price, just different same price, different company.
21:03They just change our name or same price, just different name, same company, different name.
21:10It's a different name.
21:11But the and then energetics for the radios is divided between those five different companies that are out there.
21:22But it's the same amount.
21:24We learned we learned from the last from the previous phase that we can purchase the equipment at a more cost effective price if we don't purchase everything from Energics.
21:34We avoid their markup, basically.
21:36And budget numbers are the same, but to get the POs to line up with what we're actually gonna be invoiced.
21:43The division needed to be here, and we thought you should be aware of it, but since the amounts didn't change, we figured you probably didn't need to rebook on it.
21:52Oh so the vendors, you'll see the vendors change on the vendor list.
22:01So that's just for your information purposes only.
22:10Umtility performance report, administrative activities.
22:17Sorry, I mean you know it.
22:19All right, I have Courtney's.
22:21Courtney's obviously not here tonight.
22:23Um she's at the hospital with her father.
22:26Um, but let's see, the Dunst case.
22:29We've been working on the Dunce case for a long time, and you've heard about the Dunce case for a long time.
22:34That was the one he was he's a customer, he has three properties, and he has three fire protection charges because he has three properties.
22:42But his argument was that since he's a customer, he should only be charged for one fire protection instead of three.
22:50Let me know if it works.
22:51So do we leave two of them burned out?
22:54So a decision was made at in the appeals court.
22:58So this all uh went all the way up to the appeals court, affirming the decision with the PSD in favor of water shell water.
23:07So there's only one step remaining, and that's the Supreme Court.
23:11And I just don't see the Supreme Court.
23:14And they don't have particularly I don't see them taking this.
23:19What's the economics of this approximate for him?
23:23I don't know what the monthly charge is for fire protection.
23:27Um be a 40 savings a month for him, something like that.
23:35And again, it's one of those where it costs us a lot more, it costs all the ratepayers a lot more because we have to defend our decision, but you can't make this change, it's impossible to change because you have everybody else that owns multiple.
23:50Well, you set a precedent on everything, right?
23:52Um, I have could say I own three.
23:58We submitted answers on February 9th to the first set of questions from the PSC on the rate case, so that seems to be going along fairly well.
24:06Um be a lot lower than the recent ones that we've seen out there, the 79 and 92 percent rate increases.
24:15So you're seeing other utilities that are starting to have the larger rate increases, and it's just it's coming, it's just all coming.
24:26Um the auditors are here March 11th through the 13th, so they're continuing to work on the UREND reports.
24:33The cross connection report was submitted to the DNR on February 17th, and it's due, it was due March 1st.
24:40And again, you know, the beginning the they'll start working on the CIS five upgrade with the consultant, but majority of the work transitioning to the new system won't happen to the end of the year.
24:52So we start getting data and they start working with them and it's getting it ready to transition into the new system.
25:02So we've had 11 main interruptions since last month, including one that they're currently on in a the backyard of a house on Cumberland with Dan got to go see with me.
25:15So if it was 10 feet further, it would have been under a garage.
25:19Yeah, it's not a good situation out there.
25:26The water main it was or lateral.
25:28We've talked, we kind of talked about no the main.
25:31We talked about this a little bit before.
25:34Um in this area of the city, we have water main and sanitary stream that was installed and potential future alleyways.
25:44Did not get in installed and they were reverted back to the owner.
25:48So literally our water main is that's it's sitting in property that's not in an easement.
25:55But Brian said it's uh prescriptive prescriptive prescriptive easing.
26:00Yeah, one of those well, we should have reserved the easement when we vacated.
26:06Yeah, usually I don't think that happened, but anyway, we're working.
26:10We in fact Matt Matt and I were talking this afternoon, a couple hours before this happened about starting the process of transitioning.
26:19There's we figured how how often?
26:22How many sixty to eighty?
26:23It's like sixty to eighty houses that I remember exactly.
26:26But there's about what was that 60 what 60 to 80 services?
26:30I don't remember exactly.
26:32That need to be moved to abandon these mains so that we can but there's mains that need to be put in front of some houses on some streets.
26:40So over the next three years, three to five years, you'll be seeing us with projects in this area moving, put installing mains in the front, installing services, and then we're gonna have to we'll end up hiring a plumber to m do the indoor modifications so that there's because we're moving their service from the back of their house to the front of their house.
27:01So we're causing that problem.
27:03So we will we'll have to hire a plumber to come in.
27:10It's it's early 50s.
27:11So we had one earlier this year six or an eight.
27:17And the last one that it happened was right by a pool.
27:22If you remember, we had to drain the pool and take the pool down.
27:27So we were it's kind of an interesting area.
27:31So we're gonna try to get out of this situation.
27:35Wow, I didn't know that we had needs without easements.
27:41We have prescriptive needs.
27:45That doesn't mean you can get to it though, because that's the LDL.
27:50Yeah, so we're actually working with the city today on the one that's today, because they have a smaller backhoe that they can use.
27:58And we can't get our equipment back there.
28:00We may end up, you know, we're we're taking down a fence for sure.
28:05We'll end up fixing that.
28:07And it may end up being a driveway too that we end up tearing up.
28:10So you don't have to tear down the house.
28:13Um, it's Matt's cousin, so we're okay.
28:22So really hate the water you do.
28:26The woman came home, we didn't know.
28:28And we just stopped out there because we were out looking at the building, and the woman came home and she's like, Matt.
28:41So damage to the garage.
28:48So we might not have a house, might be a good one.
28:52We actually happened just yeah.
28:55It's we talked about that on the way back.
28:58That what if the main brake was under the garage?
29:01And we'd probably install a valve on each side and try to isolate that abandon that area, but then so do they just start seeing water?
29:10The neighbor saw it, it was coming up underneath the fence and then going across the neighbor's driveway into the other next the next neighbors.
29:17He's the one that called it in.
29:18Well, at least somebody called.
29:22So there'll be about 25 people without water.
29:30We gave them the mayor's cell number.
29:38Oh, I gave him that one too.
29:43Uh and then our dump truck that we ordered last year has arrived, and we have it now.
29:53So just the city is buttoning up a couple with the radio in it and stuff like that.
29:59That helps out with that.
30:00And then the other dump truck that for this year, the smaller Five Fifty, the chassis is supposed to be here next week.
30:08So they'll start putting that together.
30:09Hopefully in the next month we'll have it back.
30:15We had our lab inspection by the state.
30:19Um Matt, when you started, you said there were X amount of interruptions.
30:28It's been better this year than last year.
30:37Um so we had our uh lab inspection by the state in January.
30:41We passed, we did great there.
30:43Uh the PLC projects that you've approved previously are ongoing.
30:47I am working with we Chris at We Energy's on an easement at Woodridge that uh I'll bring to you next month for approval.
30:58Um I'm finishing up the well abandonment bid documents and uh you'll have those at your April meeting to review.
31:07I worked with Tim at the fire department on the water portion of the community risk assessment.
31:12Sent that to him today to look at.
31:15And Dave and I oh the diversion permit I worked while I was away with Brent from Smith Group to get that ready.
31:25It'll be submitted next week.
31:29And then um Dave and I had a Teams call with the village of Oswego today regarding their future transition from groundwater to Lake Michigan water.
31:38They'll be purchasing it from page and uh they had seen one of our traveling roadshow presentations before and wanted to talk about certain things and uh we invited them up to come up and tour our facility and uh without asking permission.
31:55I offered to come down and do a presentation with Dave to their management board when it gets closer if that's something they're interested in.
32:03So it's been a busy month.
32:07Not too far from Jolie yet.
32:19Isn't that don't they have like a is that that I thought there's a project where they're extending Lake Michigan or it's like a five billion or two billion dollar project.
32:30Yes, there's a 54-inch transmission main that's gonna serve three communities and they're tapping off of it.
32:42Anything else under administrative activities?
32:45Commissioners, any questions?
32:48All right, let's move on to the uh financial report.
32:51There is no financial report.
32:53No, I think early in the year we don't have financials done yet, so there is no financial report.
32:59You'll notice that um the water usage is up this year by about two percent for January.
33:06Um that's really just a numbers game.
33:09Last year there was 29 days for 28 days in the month and because of windbilling and everything for this year.
33:16There's 30 days, so it's really two days more, so it's really we're right on target with our with our water usage for January.
33:24Um other than that, the balance sheet shows uh money money going out.
33:31There is you'll notice 774,050 that goes to the tax equivalent, the pilot payment.
33:39That's the first of three pilot payments that we city for a total of uh 2.25 million somewhere in there.
33:45I'm just kind of confused, but we pay a lot of money to the city every year.
33:50So again, this is the first of three payments to the city for 774,000 59.
34:00What's the second payment is too?
34:01Oh, I'll be letting you know when we come when the check comes out next month and we'll make sure you know.
34:05How much was that again, Dan?
34:14And then we go into the projects.
34:18Um is there anything in the project?
34:20Nothing's started yet this year.
34:22Um beginning bidwell and uh prospect the water main is supposed to start March 14th.
34:31So that'll be the first one coming.
34:33The resurfacing project, the bids come back on March 6th.
34:39Um Davidson Road, the bids are back.
34:43We did pull it because there's some concern about which uh contract they're gonna go with because there's an asphalt and uh concrete bin and their public works meeting is right now, so I don't want to bring it to you and then have to switch it and bring it back again.
35:00But that one is bid it, but they won't start till uh the middle of June after school is out because it's right in front of um school.
35:10Davidson right can't think of what the name of the school is, but it's right in front of the school, so they have to wait till school's out on that one.
35:16And then uh Williams Street is kind of on hold as of right now.
35:22Uh possibly might get pushed.
35:25I think there's some issues with uh the energies and the gas and electric getting done before a certain time.
35:33So first time that's ever happened.
35:36The 59 reconstruction, I haven't heard a startup date when they're gonna plan to start that up.
35:41I'm assuming it's probably gonna be March, end of March when as long as the weather stays decent.
35:47And the airline trail, we're still I think we're close to the do you know any more of that?
35:53Um I know uh attorney running was working with the Schoenstatt sisters on that easement.
36:00I think we're fairly close to having that figured out, so and then I'll just be kind of coordinating with smart.
36:06Hopefully, we can get a route plan so we can get the water main in there as soon as possible for the water quality up there.
36:17All right, any questions, commissioners.
36:27I got one thing real quick.
36:28It's it's in uh maybe in the engineering thing.
36:31Last winter we had issues at the outfall site, or not issues, but potential with the freezing and everything.
36:37Were there any issues at the outfall site with during the cold with the I they no is so the issues were with when it was really cold and the frost freezing, we covered it.
36:48Okay, they did a more they did a more permanent cover for it.
36:52So we we held the no held the moisture closer.
36:56Um I haven't heard anything, so I shouldn't say that there was nothing, but I haven't heard anything.
37:01They worked on building.
37:02We'll find out about it though, but that's the root creek of fire where it dumps into in the building itself.
37:08The building was not um insulated and heated.
37:11So everything froze over and there was ice pretty much over everything.
37:15So they we we worked on actually wastewater.
37:19Our guys might have helped.
37:21Um putting in a more permanent cover.
37:24I shouldn't say a permanent cover, it's a semi-permanent coup cover that keeps the moisture down.
37:28Okay, and that way it doesn't come up.
37:30The steam doesn't come up.
37:36I just remembered you know, I'm thinking about the coal and it's yeah, they didn't hear from them at all.
37:41So yeah, and we have a an agreement with the farmer again.
37:48So we want to keep that property farm.
37:51Just in case we get some credits for phosphorus.
37:55And or you don't have to try to maintain it.
38:01So publicity in the paper about Pewaki and Radon and Radium.
38:10Yes, we've been working with them.
38:12In fact, the mayor and I will be going out to Washington with their mayor and their director of public works.
38:19Um they they did present their water supply study and recommended for Great Lakes Water Um to the city and the village.
38:28So we've been working with them to see how we can make that happen.
38:31Do you know where their procurity stands right now?
38:36They're under court order though.
38:37They're under, yeah.
38:39Um and they could abandon one well, and that would they would bring them into compliance.
38:46However, just timing over this over this winter they had an inbreak, and had they abandoned that well, then they wouldn't have had service on like half of their system and they'd have been under a boil water order.
38:56So that's why Jane Kelly's counterpart over there is really reluctant to abandon the well because it's the only real source they have on that side of the system.
39:07Um we're working through some possibilities of how they could potentially utilize well ten um in the interim.
39:18Um and what it would look like if they ultimately connected with us.
39:22So that continues to move forward.
39:25You know how many clock customers they have approximately.
39:27It's I think it's about two and a half million gallons a day right now.
39:32I don't know exactly the customers.
39:34That's what the village and the city.
39:40It would be a nice nice regional cooperation opportunity, no doubt.
39:53All right, anything else?
39:58If there are no objections, we're adjourned.