0:00Give me one second here.
0:01Um, it is 601, so we will call to order the Monday, March 9th meeting of the ordinance and licensing committee.
0:12All committee members are present, so we do have a quorum.
0:16Uh moving on to public comment.
0:20Anyone public comment?
0:28Uh moving on from public comment since no one else is in the uh gallery.
0:34Anyone have any concerns with the uh objections to the minutes as they're presented?
0:44Seeing none, we will consider the minutes approved by unanimous consent.
0:47Moving on to licenses, um invited bartenders.
0:54Uh we only have one person on the list.
0:58Um, sorry, let me pull it up so I get it correct.
1:04Um we only have Sarah Evans on the list.
1:09Um she has not attended, but based on her history and the time period uh between when uh a few things were on her record, and uh you know enough time has passed between that and now so I will make a motion to approve the uh bartender's license for Sarah Evans and I'll second.
1:33Okay, so we have a motion to approve the operator's license for Sarah Evans uh motion by myself, seconded by all the person Halvin's laban.
1:42You can vote when it's before you vote.
1:50And we're doing some training here, so this might take a minute that passes unanimously.
2:18My computer now needs a restart.
2:23Moving on to our next agenda item.
2:26Uh we have other applications.
2:30Um want to make a motion on these, we can approve them all at once.
2:37Yeah, I will make the motion to approve the applications for discount smokes and spirits, class A beer and liquor retail for the story LLC extension of premises, the steaming cup sidewalk cafe, and tofties table sidewalk cafe.
3:00We have a motion to approve by Alder Person Halvin's laban, seconded by Alder Person Manion.
3:05The uh licenses for discount smokes and spirits, class A beer and liquor retail for the story LLC extension of premises, the steaming cup sidewalk cafe, and Tofty's table sidewalk cafe.
3:19You can vote when it's before you.
4:08Uh moving on, discussion recommendation, adoption of Wisconsin statute 349.115 into municipal code regarding the impounding of vehicles used in reckless driving.
4:21Uh Brian Michael, yes, good evening.
4:23Uh assistant city attorney Michael Radovich.
4:26Uh, my office did get a referral regarding uh adopting the statute into our code.
4:31The statute had been amended by the state legislature recently, making some changes.
4:36Uh so I submitted a memorandum to the council.
4:39I'm happy to discuss any questions that you may have.
4:50How soon can we implement this?
4:53I was reading in the newspaper about uh a couple other incidences and other communities.
5:00So as soon as possible.
5:04Well, I mean it would be this is the first reading tonight.
5:08There'll be a second reading at the next council meeting, and they will have uh the option at that point to suspend the rule requiring the third reading.
5:19And uh ordinance changes or or ordinances are effective the day after they are published.
5:26So as soon as we can get it published in the Freeman, the next day is when it will actually take effect and can be enforced.
5:38Any other questions from anybody?
5:41We made Michael stay late to present to us, so I am happy to do so, and I guess I will let you guys know uh there is a minor error in subsection 7A, so that will be slightly different next meeting.
5:58Uh it will read something along the lines of the city shall return the vehicle when they when all costs and towing and storage is paid.
6:06So I do apologize for that.
6:09I wouldn't call it an error, but we are going to add language in there that kind of restates the obvious that if the payment is made, then the car will be returned.
6:20It's just language to put an affirmative duty on the city to return the car if everything is paid, which I think is implied.
6:27You can read between the lines, but we're going to make it explicit.
6:32Chief, do you have or Chief?
6:34Do you have any perspectives on this concerns?
6:37I do I fully support it.
6:38I think it's gonna say otherwise I'm gonna have to repeat it, so it's easier if you just come up and no, I truly believe that reckless driving is a public safety threat.
6:51Uh not only to our residents, um pedestrians, motorists, um, and I think this ordinance is gonna help keep our residents uh and our public safer.
7:02Um it's a tool that we can use, uh keep people accountable.
7:06Uh and I fully uh support it.
7:10This is probably more a question for you because I know I asked you, Brian, uh, when we talked about this a couple weeks ago.
7:15Um, so I view reckless driving as as kind of a similar offense to say a DUI, right?
7:22In both instances, you are theoretically endangering public safety.
7:26Um so if you're dangerous, if you're driving dangerously, you're you're driving dangerously, um, regardless of what you've consumed that day.
7:36Uh so my question was to Brian, and I don't know if we had a full answer on this.
7:40When someone uh gets a DUI, that vehicle that they were driving, is that also impounded?
7:47It depends on the severity of the uh DUI because sometimes uh if there's a ragus where it's left in a safe place, something else can come pick it up other than the driver.
7:57Um, but I will say this if you have a serious um OWR DUI or reckless driver, uh, and we can clearly show that uh that vehicle itself is uh is a future threat to the public as well.
8:12We're gonna impound it.
8:14Uh that that's what I said is each situation is unique, uh, but it provides a another advantage or tool force multiplier for our officers to make those decisions.
8:26Thank you for that clarification.
8:31Uh do we have body cameras in our city?
8:37Wasn't aware of that.
8:42You gotta do the tour, Steve.
8:48Chief, um, just kind of curious: how does this work operationally?
8:54Um when we when we impound a vehicle, like I don't believe, correct me if I'm wrong, we don't really have an impound lot that the PD manages themselves.
9:04So is this all done through like a third-party contract or a towing company?
9:09Could you just elaborate on maybe we have multiple towing companies um that uh will assist us, but if we have a more severe reckless driver, we have a place where we can store those vehicles as well.
9:23But uh those are normally um vehicles that are involved in uh fatalities or serious death.
9:29We usually store those by uh our lot.
9:32The other ones uh our partnering tolling companies will store them.
9:41Sorry, I thought of one more question that I don't know if we got a complete answer on because I think we were kind of waiting on you to be here as well, Chief.
9:48Um, so in the situation where a vehicle is stolen and then is then used for a reckless driving incident is then impounded, and the rightful owner of this vehicle comes forward and they want their vehicle, those those costs for impounding that vehicle then would fall on the city.
10:09Well, I don't know if they'd fall in the city.
10:11I think what would happen is it'd be hopefully waived.
10:18If we have a stolen vehicle, we're gonna do everything in our power to identify it before we impound it.
10:24Let's say we do impone it and we do find out that the vehicle was stolen and we have an owner, we're gonna do everything in our power to help uh help.
10:31And I would assume like we would pay costs.
10:34Yeah, and I would assume that the the offender would kind of have those costs put onto them, whatever costs there would be.
10:42Um, but I also know that the likelihood of us always recovering those is probably lower, and you guys might be able to speak to that more.
10:48Um, but I'm just trying to think of like costs to the city generally.
10:53I mean, I know they can't get their car out, but if it's a stolen vehicle, obviously we have to return it to the owner.
10:58Um, I'm just kind of wondering how do we recover any costs for towing for um storage, whether it's with our partners or with ourselves.
11:07Um just kind of trying to figure out what that's that's gonna look like.
11:10I'm generally supportive of this, just wondering about logistics.
11:14Uh there would be potential for uh restitution or a civil claim against any reckless driver if there are severe, you know, costs incurred by the city.
11:23Uh but like the chief said, the duty is on the police department to return the vehicle to if it's stolen to the owner free of charge.
11:34Um along that line, uh, probably more for Michael and Brian.
11:39I mean, it says we're going to recover costs, right?
11:42Is there gonna be I guess it says fine two?
11:45So is this something that would end up in our table of fee schedule?
11:53It should be there already.
11:57Understand that this we already have the ability to do this.
12:04What this does, what this uh amended statute does is it just kind of enhances the already existing remedy by allowing us to impound the vehicle, even if it's not the owner of the vehicle that's driving, and even if it isn't a subsequent offense.
12:20It just kind of uh strengthens the existing law.
12:27Yeah, thanks for the clarification on that.
12:29Yeah, I suppose you're right, it is that because there's certainly more to it than just towing it, right?
12:35It's court duty and stuff like that.
12:43Anyone want to make a motion?
12:45Somebody who asked for it to be implemented as soon as possible.
12:50Yeah, I want my name on it.
12:53Uh for I'll make a motion to approve.
12:56Here might say I make a motion to approve ID number 26-03071 adoption of Wisconsin statute and the municipal code regarding the impounding of vehicles used in reckless driving.
13:15And I'll second that.
13:18Uh we have a motion to approve by Alder Person Ventriester, seconded by Alderperson Lemke on adoption of Wisconsin statute 349.115 into municipal code regarding impounding of vehicles used in reckless driving.
13:34I assume with the uh short modification as stated by Michael to Section 71A, but we can clarify that at council.
13:43So you can vote what is before you.
13:58That passes unanimously.
14:05We didn't exactly give you a hard time there, did we?
14:09But all right, moving on.
14:11Discussion and recommendation on AB 105 for raised grain for tribute Tuesday for June 9th, July 14th, August 11th, September 1st from 530 to 9.30.
14:28Um Brian, this is just correct me if I'm wrong.
14:32This is one of those that we just kind of have to say, okay, this is between raised grain and the state.
14:36The state issues the permit, but they it requires municipal approval before they will issue the permit.
14:44And we can put a couple of conditions on this.
14:48The main one being whether or not we allow them to sell products that are produced by other than raised grain.
14:56Um I don't recommend that we put those kinds of restrictions on it.
15:00I think that we want them to be able to sell any products.
15:04Um particularly if they want to sell non-alcoholic alternatives to beer.
15:10Well, you know, we wouldn't we really wouldn't want to restrict that.
15:13So I wouldn't recommend that we put any restrictions on it uh other than it's from 5 30 to 9 30.
15:22Um other possibilities for restrictions are we could say to them, and you may have seen this.
15:28I dropped a little package on you on Friday that you may have looked at already.
15:33Some of the revisions in chapter 9 include a new section on FSR.
15:40Um we could also say to them that everything that they sell has to be consumed on premises, and it's not for carry out.
15:50Um I don't think that that's ever going to be a problem at Tribute Tuesday or any of the other events where they're coming.
15:57It's always been tailored specifically to you know, handing cups from tappers right to people that are there at the event.
16:06But that is something that we could add.
16:11But I I would recommend just approving this.
16:13My only question would be I think they have to do a separate AB 105 for each one of those dates, don't they, Molly?
16:24That I'm not sure of.
16:25Well, we can easily follow up on that, and if uh if they do, then we'll we'll need a separate AB 105 for each one of those, but it's essentially the same application three times, four times.
16:41Do we have to clarify that in our motion?
16:44Well, you could add a clarification that if a separate AB 105 is required for each one, that as long as the terms are identical for each that you approve all of them and author authorize the clerk to sign off on all of them.
17:03I will make the motion to approve um the city signing off on the AB 105 as presented, and any additional AB 105s as long as the terms are identical for the tribute Tuesday events where raised grain brewing company will be selling their beverages.
17:24And I will second that.
17:28Uh we have a motion by Alder Person Helvin's labin, seconded by Alder Person Lemke for approval of AB 105 for raised grain for tribute Tuesday on June 9th, July 14th, August 11th, September 1st from 530 to 9:30, pending that we don't need an extra application for each, and if we do, the clerk can approve that as is.
17:52And I'll right away say yes because things aren't working.
17:57Yeah, spinner of death.
18:09All right, that passes unanimously.
18:11Uh moving on discussion recommended discussion and recommendation on AB 105 for raised grain for Guitar Town Music Festival on June 13th from eight.
18:25Any questions from anybody, Alicia?
18:30I will make the motion to uh approve the AB 105 application for raised grain brewing company for Guitar Town Music Festival on June 13th Dean Lemke second.
18:45All right, motion to approve AB 105 for raised grain for Guitar Town Music Festival on June 13th from noon till eight.
18:54Motion by Elder Person Helbins Laban, seconded by Elder Person Lemke.
19:18All right, and that passes unanimously.
19:21Uh communications, Brad, Michael.
19:26Molly, Kelly, Clerk's office.
19:29There's nothing else.
19:30We are adjourned at 621.
19:39Oh, if we might have to say