0:13Go ahead and get started for the transit commission meeting for Thursday, March 19th.
0:32Um I'll speak louder.
0:51Please rise to remove any head here.
1:26We can uh we do have a public hearing, so we have a public hearing after minutes approval, so we can uh we can take comments at that time.
1:38Item four a uh approval of minutes from February 5th.
1:46Any comments or questions?
1:49Seeing none take a vote.
2:05Now we enter a public hearing.
2:14Kevin Riley so moves.
2:18We have a motion and second to enter public hearing.
2:22Um other questions or comments for that.
2:32Yeah, you can just vote vote to open it.
2:41Chairman, then what I'll do.
2:43Thank you for opening the public hearing.
2:45I'll just briefly go over the proposed changes for uh service changes for June 15th.
2:52Um first a general statement.
2:55Um what we looked at for these changes were more opportunities where we could reallocate resources to higher ridership areas or make serve make service improvements.
3:08Um, but there are some uh proposed reductions in service.
3:13Um as we've talked many times at this board, uh we do have a significant long-term uh financial um deficit if we if everything is the same.
3:25So we are looking for opportunities to make reductions that minimize the amount of folks that are passengers that are affected.
3:38We when we do make a reduction, we realize that it does affect individuals or recommend that.
3:45And so um uh we're we're sorry for that, but unfortunately, the financial realities both now and the future have us uh looking at these when we can or they are affecting as few folks as we can.
4:02Um with that general statement, I'm just gonna go through um the proposed changes, and it's a lot of routes, but uh uh with the exception of two, um they were relatively minor, but the one of the big ones that requires the public hearing is uh route we're recommending uh the Route Six on Sunday um service, just Sunday service be eliminated at due to low ridership.
4:30Um this wasn't made in the vacuum, and none of these decisions are made in a vacuum.
4:34In fact, we've been looking at this as a possibility for the last couple years, and the ridership hasn't improved, and it's at a level where with the other routes, because at one point back 20 some odd years ago, all the routes ran on Sunday, but we've uh eliminated ones, but it's now at the level that we've eliminated in the past, um, like the others, and I just want to point out um that routes three, nine, and fifteen currently do not run on Sundays, and they have higher weekday and Saturday ridership and also higher ridership per hour.
5:00And I just want to point out that routes three, nine, and fifteen currently do not run on Sundays, and they have higher weekday and Saturday ridership and also higher ridership per hour.
5:11Um, and so those parts of the city do not have uh service.
5:16Um the change to Route 5 would be elimination of the West High after school trip, um, and that would be eliminated after the school year in mid-June is very low ridership.
5:30We only have one regular student riding that.
5:33In fact, the average ride uh number of uh students riding is one, and then the other change with Route 5 would be the 850 a.m.
5:44We'd propose for elimination.
5:46Route nine um is a route that we really haven't looked at that much since uh post-COVID, but it is one that we've been uh examining, and essentially what we would be doing is we'd uh we're proposing on weekdays eliminating the first trip and then the first uh so base basically service wouldn't say starting at 55 would start at 6:30.
6:14Um it has very low ridership, particularly on the outbound trip, and then the 120 trip basically um it would push back half hour service on Route 9 to 225.
6:29So that there is some operational efficiencies too with eliminating these routes.
6:35Um, the big change though for Route 9 is on Saturdays, and this was proposed by Sewer Pack in our transit development plan is to not operate north of Silvernail Road.
6:49Route 9 serves a lot of the county facilities, and then Northview, Grandview, Silver Nail Road, WCTC, and what I have up here on the map is oh, sorry, is the outbound leg, and the reason why we waited to we would have done this a lot sooner, but we were having we're struggling with getting the timing down with the normal Route 9 uh routing.
7:17We it would be difficult to try and run this in a half hour.
7:21Um, so what we're proposing is one slight deviation from sewer pack's plan, and that is on the outbound leg, so leaving the transit center, we'd leave as a Route 8 and then come up on Dela Field, and then once we get north of Moreland, we'd resume the normal Route 9 routing that sewer packag recommended, and then at uh Grandview and Silvernail, we would uh we would turn and then the the outbound leg would end at the Silver Nail Plaza, and then inbound would be the normal inbound routing routing from Silver Nail Plaza back to the transit center.
8:02The reason for this is this area north, the the area north of Silvernail, um we're only getting one trip, one boarding per Saturday, and two and a half um passengers getting off all day, and there's a total of 18 one-way trips, so it's very low ridership, and this is about 40, 45 percent of the mileage.
8:31Um, so we can turn Route 9 into a half-hour route, and then what we would do is with that bus, the other half hour we'd run a second uh Route 4, which serves the south central part of the city, including Walmart, and that route can get very busy as we're as the weather is getting nicer, Route 4 gets very busy on Saturdays, a lot of wheelchairs, a lot of mobility devices, a lot of shopping carts, and so we'd be able to put more service back into the city and where we where there's more chance for ridership.
9:07Um and then there would be a with this change on to the Route 9, there'd be a slight change to the metro lift.
9:15Uh we're proposing a slight change to the weekend metro lift uh uh zone, and I will bring up the current metro lift.
9:24So this is our current metro lift uh map.
9:29Um all the areas that are shaded, that those are areas within the city, and then the areas outside are areas that are within three quarters of a mile of the fixed route, which is required by ADA, and we we have this uh out to Freighter at Hospital as well.
9:47And but I would really want you to focus on the north end uh round WCTC.
9:52So this is our week weekday zone, and what we're proposing is to not go that far north on the weekend, so we'd have a slightly different weekend zone.
10:03So we'd have a slightly different weekend zone.
10:06Nothing changes in the east to freighter, nothing changes within the city.
10:12Um so that would just be the the change as a result of not operating the bus all the way up to WCTC on Saturday.
10:21The for Route 4, I did state that we would increase service on Route 4 to 30 minutes on Saturday during the day.
10:30Um one change we do have for Route 4 on Saturdays would be um although ridership during the day is really strong on Saturday in the evening, it it's rather low, and so we're recommending eliminating the last two Saturday night trips so the service would end at 7.45 instead of 8 45 p.m.
10:52Also, with the if the Route 6 were approved for elimination, we're recommending that we run a second bus on Route 4 on Sunday, a shorter uh span of time, a five-hour uh span of time.
11:08Um because Route 4 does have higher ridership than any other route um other than Route 1 on Sundays.
11:17The other changes are um just single trips or just a few trips route three.
11:24We're recommending uh eliminating the Route Three trips, last two Saturday trips for Route three, so Route Three would be um done with service by 5 p.m.
11:35But that that area also that route three is the area that serves like uh the target on Caso Road and Woodman's, but we also have Route One that kind of either goes right, has stops that serve the same locations or within the uh near vicinity that goes till 11 p.m.
11:58So there would be uh we feel that would be a low impact one, and then Route 8, the 615 weekday trip would be proposed for elimination.
12:08Um that just means that uh Route 8 would have half hour service.
12:12We'd go to an hour service a half hour earlier on Route 8, but that trip has very low ridership uh again around one ride per hour or per trip.
12:23So with that, that is an overview.
12:26Um I did we did receive a few comments, but I do believe there's a gentleman in the audience that would like to uh make a comment as well.
12:33So Mark, is that you uh I've been taking that the route six for a long sorry could you state your name and address, please?
12:49Oh my name is Mark Zarwell, and I live on 1219 South Grand View, right at the Hickory Hill apartments, and I've been taking the Route Six for a long time, and uh I don't want to have to move out of my apartment and and move to a different apartment where there's different routes, and I don't want to pay for an Uber.
13:14That's why I I wish you the Route Six would run a little longer.
13:22That's what what the issue is and I I can't afford a car right now.
13:29It's too you know that's the problem.
13:39Sir, uh just one question.
13:41How many times a week do you assume you take the Route Six bus?
13:49Almost like every day when I'm going to work.
13:57So four or five times a day?
13:59I mean a week, yeah.
14:02Then I go down transfer to Route 1.
14:06Yeah, that's from my work is that way.
14:17Zarwell was also had called in his comments, but um, I'm very happy that he came in um to do it in person.
14:24We did receive one other comment, and that was from a Michael.
14:28I do not have his last name or his address, but he is opposed to the cuts to Route 9.
14:34Um, he uses it every day to get to work, and he's afraid that'll make it more difficult for him.
14:40Um we do believe that he he was referring to the weekday Route 9 cuts, not the change to the Saturday uh Route 9.
14:50So that is the end of our comments that we have received.
14:58Anybody have anything else?
15:00Brian, um, in this gentleman's case, don't we have that uh on demand or what I don't remember what you call it, or you you can call in and and we'll go pick somebody up?
15:10Um well that's metro lift if he had a qualifying uh disability.
15:16Um yeah, that might be an option if you're just gonna say I mean I do write a scooter in the summertime, but winter time no, I can't ride a moped in the winter.
15:28Yeah, and that might be an option too.
15:30And we could I would I would if if this does get approved, what we could do is you can contact us on you know that call the transitor, talk to Kristen.
15:40We could work on maybe there's a conditional conditional approval for metro.
15:48Yeah, that that we we could work with you if that if that if this is approved.
15:52So that way I don't have to take it over.
15:55No, that is a that is that would be an option if he has a qualifying disability.
16:04Any other questions or comments?
16:06Um, I just have uh one.
16:09I understand we have to make these we have to make some.
16:14We're we're still in the public hearing, so if we're oh if you're okay with closing the public hearing, the next item is this is the action item on this.
16:27No problem with that.
16:28I move to close public hearing.
16:30Kevin Riley seconds.
16:32Motion passes or there's a first and a second.
16:36Uh let's make a vote.
16:40Kevin Riley, I wouldn't pay an aye.
16:45So uh public hearing is now closed.
16:52So then the 6A would be the um would be the review and act on the proposed service changes um that we just had the public hearing on that would be effective June 15th.
17:04So now we can yeah, I'm sorry, I jumped the gun there.
17:09Um I know we have to make cuts.
17:14We we can't we just don't have the money to to run everything at the current levels.
17:20The but my question is is I'm the WCTC uh reductions at uh several years ago the YMCA said they were gonna relocate out there, but I've never seen them break ground or make any serious move to actually go there.
17:41What would our position be if we cancel the route and then the YMCA does cross over there?
17:47Would we be in a position to possibly reach that?
17:53Well, that would be ultimately the decision of the council, but my recommendation is that we would not run on Saturday um unless WCTC, the City of Pewaki or the YMCA pays for it.
18:06Current, we are we are getting no funding from WCTC, the City of Piocky, Waxha County to run to WCTC.
18:17And so uh as city funds are uh and right now it's an efficiency thing.
18:25You know, we have we've done this with several routes uh over the last few years where we have a uh a segment of the trip in this case about 40 45 percent of the mileage that were producing no rides or very little rides.
18:41Um but the why, yeah, that is something that down the road we would look at.
18:46I just so and I should state um I did notify my contacts at WCTC they were aware of uh of this and they didn't have any comments at this time, but that is something that we've talked to them in the past, and they brought up about uh service because of the YMCA and and such, and I told them at that time we're heading into a tough financial period, so any additional service, somebody else is going to have to pay it.
19:17The city cannot afford it.
19:19And so that would be my recommendation is that if somebody else is willing to pay for it, then we'd consider it.
19:27Um but that's ultimately the council.
19:29I mean, well, you would as this board would recommend, but ultimately the council would have uh the final say on that.
19:40It's not what I'm hoping for, but it's reality.
19:43Yeah, I I I haven't heard anything.
19:45I'm a member of the Y, I haven't heard anything on the move.
19:48Uh that's kind of good.
19:55Buses don't run for free.
19:57Yep, unfortunately, no.
20:00So I I would uh I would move to uh to approve that proposed service changes effect of June 15th.
20:11June 15th, yeah, June 15th.
20:16Kevin Riley seconds.
20:25Uh just that we need to make uh an effort to reach out to these people that might be being stranded and let them know how the metro lift works and whether they're eligible for it.
20:35Yeah, that that is something that and the one of the things, and I I'd like to compliment our operations staff for doing this, but any of the trips that were affected, they were handing out notices of the beyond just us posting them, they were hand individually having the drivers hand them out on the trips that would be affected.
20:53So pastors were no, so we could so they could start that conversation ahead of time.
21:02Yeah, other questions or comments.
21:06I had one more, and I apologize.
21:08I did inform the school district and the principal at West High School about the proposed elimination of that.
21:14And the only thing that the school district commented was they're very appreciative that we're doing this.
21:20They understand, but they're very appreciative that we wait till summer till after the school year is done.
21:39So let's take a vote on 6A, which has been moved and seconded.
21:48Anyone have any other questions or comments?
22:01Uh 6B is the review and act on the resolution authorizing the filing of the 2026 federal transit grant.
22:08Uh this is our annual resolution to allow me to uh apply for federal funds for operating and our approved capital projects.
22:18Um I won't go over them unless you want to, but they were all approved in our CIP.
22:24And then there is some funding for buses, uh, both the 2027 approved bus purchase and then future pair transit buses as well.
22:34So move pain moves to resolution.
22:41Kevin Riley seconds.
22:50Seeing none, we'll take a vote.
23:04Uh seven is communications.
23:06We had no formal communication, but we did Alex and I were talking today, and one of the things we are wanted to let you know is we're gonna invite you down to Badger Drive again.
23:16Um if you would take us up on it probably sometime next month, um, to hope we'll we'll try and kill two birds with one stone.
23:25Um we'll do uh presentation on why we use the bus size, the size bus that we do, and then also um hopefully the bus wash will be installed by then so we can we can show you that as well.
23:40On our cars through uh a little bit too big for cars, unfortunately.
23:51Anyone else have anything?
23:53Why is we are adjourned?
23:54Do you do you have a proposed date for that?