0:04We will call to order Monday, May 18th, City of Waukeshaw Parks, Recreation, and Forestry Board Meeting.
0:13And we'll call to order with Roll Call.
0:21Steve Johnson is absent.
0:31Erica Yoss is absent.
0:39We will move on to public comment.
0:42If there's anyone here for public comment this evening.
0:45Seeing no public comment, we will move on to the approval of minutes for the board minutes from April 20th, 2026.
0:55I'll motion to approve.
0:57Motion by Eric Hummer, second by Sarah Roth.
1:00Any further discussion?
1:02We'll take that to a vote.
1:03All in favor say aye.
1:07And that passes unanimously.
1:10Moving on to item four.
1:12We have a presentation in recognition of our nation's great.
1:17Semi quiz centennial.
1:22Acknowledgement of the Park Foundation of Waukeshaw for its sponsorship of a commemorative flagpole at Lowell Park.
1:31Well, the key to pronouncing that is the Quince Park.
1:37And no, I just give you a hard time on that.
1:40Yes, actually, I'll in all seriousness.
1:55And that's uh headquarters ground zero for 4th of July, jamboree events, et cetera.
2:02And uh and the other thing that happened the line is it's the 250th.
2:08So long story short, a flagpole was in order.
2:13And uh not just a little flagpole, but we're looking at a big flagpole.
2:18And uh so just uh uh a very brief background on how this came together.
2:26Um we uh looked to partner with uh uh our park foundation of Waukesha, the Park Foundation Waukeshaw, who has helped us out in many other projects over the years, and thought this was uh exceptional opportunity uh for them and for the park system.
2:43And uh we uh started the search as far as uh how big and where uh at Lowell Park.
2:52Uh and uh we'll go uh well some of the background with that is uh this to give you idea it's an 80-foot flagpole.
2:59We don't have a picture, we'll keep you in suspense, I guess, with that.
3:03So uh imagine uh 80-foot flagpole.
3:06Uh most flag poles that you see are maybe 30 or 40, maybe some 60, but 80 is getting getting a category in itself.
3:15And uh it's a black andized pole.
3:18We'll have uh uh eagle ornament on top uh on a resting on the ball.
3:23Uh it should look uh extremely nice.
3:26And uh it's uh internal halard system.
3:30Uh won't bore bore you with that, but it's the the best system as far as uh uh lesser wear and tear and vanel resistant and uh location was one of the toughest things.
3:43And um because of the height, we are restricted as far as where it can go.
3:49Uh there we're within three miles of the airport, so there's a certain zoning uh considerations.
3:56So we went through the process of getting a permit through Waukeshaw County, and uh that went through well.
4:03Um a lot of discussion with the airport manager, uh who's very cooperative and helped us out with this whole thing.
4:10In fact, we had a contact with the FAA and also get a filing with them to ensure that uh the location uh would be in compliance with uh FAA as well as Waukeshaw County.
4:23So those things have been accomplished since the idea really this started around December, January-ish, and uh we approached the park foundation to see if they would have some interest uh to do this, and uh well here we are tonight.
4:38Um the uh flag, it's a 20 by 30.
4:42It can support, it can support a smaller flag, but it can support a 20 by 30 foot flag.
4:48So it's a substantial flag.
4:50Um it uh the location uh one of the maps we showed you is it's right on the on the crest of when you start going uphill uh basically centered within the park.
5:00Uh basically centered within the park.
5:03Uh the idea here is accessibility for the public.
5:07Uh we visualize this uh future projects would be uh ADA uh pathway to the flagpole, uh staging area.
5:15You could visualize uh veterans groups, etc.
5:19Uh having uh ceremonies at the park as well.
5:22Uh having it on top of the hill, uh cost uh pretty astronomical and plus access uh really uh uh would be very difficult to have a general public.
5:35Uh so the flag is gonna be very visible to those at the site and beyond and uh fireworks, you can have fireworks in the background if you're familiar with how the fireworks work over at Lowell.
5:47Uh you're up close and personal, so we'll have uh like the Star Spangled Banner uh live uh to the point where the flag is fire retardant.
5:59Uh and then and I'm not I'm not um serious, uh that uh just in case uh we didn't want that much of a reenactment, but again, uh it'll be a centerpiece of the park and uh certainly a centerpiece of uh 4th of July activities and uh for hopefully many years to come, and again, in celebration of the 250th.
6:22Um installation, you'll be uh we're due uh no later than June 5th, and then we start working on the lighting.
6:29Uh the flag would need to be lit.
6:32Uh and we're uh right on track where we want to be.
6:36Uh there will be a ceremony, so put everyone on fair warning uh in the room here, especially the park foundation, and uh of course the park board and other members of the city it uh that uh we're gonna work you into a program and our 4th of July fireworks are on the third, so July 3rd.
6:57So if you didn't have plans, now you got some.
7:04Uh more much more to come on that ceremony, but things are really uh lining up quite nicely, and uh really uh do official uh opening of the flagpole.
7:17Uh so uh that's uh a brief background on it.
7:22Uh the location again, there's a map that kind of shows you, and uh lines up again very nicely within the park and uh blends in with the uh kind of landscape of uh it's a black flagpole or black anodise.
7:37So our fencing there is black with the tennis courts and our light poles are black, so it all works in with the you know the landscape and uh the type of uh amenities that we already have in place.
7:50Um yeah, and the lighting.
7:52The lighting is specified for a flagpole of that size or the flag of that size, and uh uh it's been uh uh very interesting experience.
8:04We would have thought that a flag pole would be quite that challenging, but uh you know, when when you're looking bigger, I guess uh that's what you're gonna get.
8:13So uh all in all, fantastic.
8:16I can't say enough again for the park foundation.
8:19We have some key members here tonight, and uh we're uh ready to do a dedication.
8:27Uh there's gonna be a plaque, a commemorative plaque.
8:29That's that third uh uh rendering that you're that's uh listed on your attachment.
8:35The um it's actually uh how big is that mark?
8:38Three by three uh 48 by 24.
8:43So that will be located in a strategic location and near the flagpole, and uh we'll recognize again the uh contribution to sponsorship uh covering the flagpole uh is a big cost.
8:59And uh so we can't say enough again for uh the park foundation, and we had asked them to come tonight and do a presentation to the board, and now the hard part is to get everyone organized for the official passing of the check.
9:17And uh so we could organize uh in the front here, and then we'll have the park foundation come on up, and we're gonna get some photo ops.
9:40What order do you want to?
9:45So the right, the board to the left, and then uh and yeah, push your chin out towards me and your forehead back for me, please.
10:00Yeah, push your chin out towards me and your forehead back for me, please.
10:05That's that's actually not that bad.
10:07I mean, for the first Deb, if I can put you in a little bit, John a little bit of John.
10:13John, can you slide in just a little more?
10:18As my father in law would say, pretend like you like each other.
10:30When we got that opportunity to display the foundation.
10:39We raised about money over the years.
11:51But there's seven of us on the foundation.
12:03Thank you guys for everything.
12:09Thank you very much.
12:21Yeah, I think that's our learning.
12:27That's sure I'm just asking real quick.
12:51Moving on to the discussion, discussion decision items.
12:56First one, review and possible action on proposed revisions to the departmental financial assistance program.
13:04All right, Mark Shram has been working diligently on the program.
13:08We're proud to say we've had a financial assistance program for many years.
13:13And the board has taken action.
13:16If it hasn't been every year, it's been every other year to keep it very relevant and fresh.
13:21And Mark's going to share some of the uh proposed changes uh with the board tonight.
13:28Uh so provided to provide a little bit of an overview on our financial assistance program.
13:33Um this program helps residents with lower incomes be able to take part uh to participate in our activities.
13:40Um for those that do qualify, we use other programs such as like badger care, food share, things of that nature.
13:49Um require proof from the individuals and the family in order to receive whether that's the forty or sixty-five percent of subsidy.
14:00Um the impact that this program has on the community is pretty great.
14:06Um depending on the on the year, uh we will contribute anywhere from seventy-four to ninety-six thousand dollars uh to families in need, which equates um to at least this past year for the 2024-2025 school year uh four hundred and forty-five families that uh were able to receive assistance.
14:27So definitely a big impact.
14:30The primary use is for our before and after school program, but that you there are other benefits as well with other general activity registrations.
14:40So for the uh financial assistance policy, um, you should see the text in red.
14:48That is the track changes that we have on the policy.
14:51For the most part, it's administrative changes to clarify to our customers to curb questions.
15:00But the main change that I want to highlight and go over here is item number five under assistance procedures.
15:07So what we're looking to do is um when somebody submits their application and their application is pending, they would be required to pay the full amount to register for a program to secure their spot.
15:20And then once the financial assistance is approved, we will refund them for the that approved umount.
15:29So not everyone that submits an application is approved for our financial assistance.
15:38Um and uh prior to this change, we have offered a 35% deposit on a uh registration fee while an application is pending.
15:50And what we've found is that by offering that you might only receive the 40% discount, not the 65%.
15:58So then we're we're chasing after you to collect payment.
16:01Um you may not receive any um financial assistance.
16:08So yet again, we're we're chasing after you to now complete um that registration fee.
16:16Um and we also wanted to make it clear that um any type of refund that you would receive would occur from when you submitted your application and the until it's been approved.
16:32Um so you can't submit an application and receive a prorated refund for a program you took eight months ago.
16:40So we wanted to specify that in here.
16:46And that was the main change on this program.
16:51Does anyone have any questions?
16:56Mark, if I could add just real quickly, um, just wanted to note that our financial assistance account is uh a self-supporting self uh special revenue account.
17:03Um we don't have any tax levy that goes towards this program.
17:07Um it is all through donations, sponsorships, events like our Bear Wants More adventure walk that we hosted a couple weekends ago.
17:15Um so just wanted to reiterate that there are there are no tax dollars that are going to this program.
17:21It is a self-supporting special revenue bond.
17:33I mean, I do question folks' ability to be able to pay the full amount if they're looking for the assistance, but I understand also where you're coming from on the standpoint of having to chase when folks only get a certain amount of assistance.
17:50Um just throwing on that out there, yeah.
17:53Quick question on that.
17:54So when you were chasing people down, you know, right.
17:58Sorry, bad verbiage.
18:00No, you're fine, you're fine.
18:01We're using it together, it's all good.
18:02So my question though is like did you not recover all of the funds once you had to reach out?
18:09Or did you were we still able to recover all the funds once sometimes, yes, sometimes so we weren't able to recover all the funds that okay, so and then in those situations we tend to have to write that off.
18:20Okay, because yeah, we can't okay.
18:21We there's no collections or anything of that nature.
18:24All right, so that's why for the programs, like do we find that there are some that quickly sell out, if you will, that would then put a barrier in front of these people who potentially might need it.
18:45Since it's primarily used for our before and after school program, I don't think that this change would create a barrier for anyone.
18:53Um we do uh everyone that registers for that does have to go on to a payment plan.
18:59Um, and then your uh registration fee for the current session hits 15 days prior to the session starting.
19:11So in most instances, if you are applying by or before that August 1st date, you will have been approved, and then that won't be an issue for you for for the upcoming school year.
19:30Any further questions?
19:34Okay, uh, we'll be looking for um then a motion to approve the uh proposed revisions to the financial assistance program.
19:45We have uh Alderman Camacho and a second by Sarah Roth that we've got one of those.
19:55Um any further discussion?
20:00I just want to say that I'll just be interested to hear like kind of how it goes, like with numbers of enrollments and things like that.
20:04Um after this new, hopefully it solves the issue of you know not recouping funds.
20:10Um, but yeah, just really be curious to know how that turns out.
20:14And uh next summer I'd be happy to bring a report to the board.
20:19Okay, we will take that to a vote then.
20:22All in favor say aye.
20:25And that passes unanimously.
20:29We will move on to our favorite thing, the annual election of the parks recreation and forestry board officers.
20:38Item A election of the uh parks reparate recreation and forestry board president.
20:45Uh we will look for a motion to open the nominations for the board president.
20:51I have a motion to open.
20:54And I okay, we've got a motion by Eric Hummer, second by John Schmitz.
20:58Any further discussion?
21:00Okay, we'll take that to a vote.
21:01All in favor say aye.
21:05Okay, we will now the nominations will now be open.
21:09We will take any nominations for board president.
21:14I'd like to nominate Jennifer Walner.
21:17Any other nominations?
21:21We have to vote on that.
21:24We'll just close it, right?
21:27Okay, so then we will close nominations.
21:29Oh, I'm sorry, we'll have to make a motion to close.
21:32I'll motion to close.
21:36Uh motion by Eric Humer, second by Jennifer Walner.
21:40Um, any further discussion?
21:42We will take that to a vote.
21:44Um, all in favor say aye.
21:48And that passes unanimously.
21:50So now we will look for a motion to vote.
21:55We will vote for board president.
21:58So all in favor of Jennifer Walner say aye.
22:03And that passes unanimously.
22:08We'll get through these, I promise.
22:12Okay, item B, election of the PRF board vice president.
22:17I'm looking for a motion to open nominations for board vice president.
22:25Motion by Jennifer Walner, second by Eric Hummer.
22:28Any further discussion?
22:30We'll take that to a vote.
22:32All in favor say aye.
22:36And that passes unanimously.
22:38We will now uh open nominations for board vice president.
22:43I'd like to nominate Alderman Rico Camacho for board vice president.
22:48Any other nominations?
22:52I'll be looking for a motion to close nominations for board board vice president.
23:00So that's a motion by Eric Hummer, second by Jennifer Walner.
23:03Any further discussion?
23:06We'll take that to a vote.
23:07All in favor to close nominations, say aye.
23:12And that passes unanimously.
23:14So next we will take a vote for board vice president for Alderman Rico Camacho.
23:21All in favor say aye.
23:26And that passes unanimously.
23:29Moving on to item C election of the PRF board secretary.
23:34Looking for a motion to open nominations for board secretary.
23:41Motion by Sarah Roth, second by Eric Hummer.
23:43Any further discussion?
23:45Okay, we'll take that to a vote.
23:47All in favor say aye.
23:52Okay, that passes unanimously.
23:54So now we'll be looking for nominations for the PRF board secretary.
24:02Well, I will nominate Eric Hummer for board secretary.
24:08I know they're very loud.
24:12Any other nominations?
24:15We will be looking for a motion to close nominations for PRF board secretary.
24:23Motion by Sarah Roth, seconded by Eric Hummer.
24:26Any further discussion?
24:28We'll take that to a vote.
24:29All in favor say aye.
24:34And that passes unanimously.
24:35So last we will take it to a vote for PRF board secretary for Eric Hummer.
24:41All in favor say aye.
24:45And that passes unanimously.
24:55Board president report.
24:56Nothing to report out of plan commission as of last month.
25:00We have our meeting next month, so I'll bring anything forward in June.
25:03So moving on to director and staff report.
25:08Thank you, Jennifer.
25:09Lots of activity, lots of plans.
25:12I'll start with the first one, our park and recreation system master plan.
25:17We've had a lot of activity with uh engagement with the community and a survey.
25:22Hopefully, you saw the handy link that uh Mark has distributed.
25:28And I'm sure Mark would want to report on that.
25:31But the we're getting the well, last as of last week, I know we were over 500 uh responses already with the survey, and we're closing not until the end of the month.
25:41So I'll let you uh keep people in suspense and where things are at.
25:47Uh we have also had uh pop-up engagement at various uh events that has been very well received.
25:54Uh and uh they'll continue uh the gather information and uh the firm that we're working with, uh they're called Damon Farber, and they're also uh uh working on our uh wayfinding project.
26:07Uh and if that's not enough, they're also working on a project with community development uh called the Artscape uh project with part of the riverwalk that's being investigated through a community development initiative.
26:21And uh so those plans are well on their way.
26:24Uh the uh wayfinding is very much trails oriented, and that includes uh not only off-road but uh even more importantly on road uh trail connections and how to get from point A to B.
26:38Uh the signage is uh pretty much non-existent uh throughout the city, and it's been something that uh has been talked about for years, and and we're happy to have the opportunity to finally you know do something more concrete about it.
26:54So it'll be a standardized uh signage shift system throughout throughout the city.
26:59This isn't gonna be in conjunction with uh public works slash engineering department because of the road aspects of it and then the off-street uh uh trails would really fall uh on our responsibility, but uh we're networking uh Waukesha County, get their input.
27:18Uh we're all in it together.
27:19Uh state can't forget the state, glacial drumlin is a state trail.
27:23We have a bunch of county trails, and of course, uh we have our city trails.
27:28So that's all part of that plan.
27:30Uh the uh park and recreation mass the master plan uh is uh to integrate all that together.
27:39So we have companion plans to the major plan.
27:42Uh that plan is to guide us through 10 to 15 years.
27:47Our current plan that we've been working off of is goes back to 2007.
27:51So we've had a lot of mileage out of that, and uh we've accomplished quite a bit uh from that 07 and and those years go by fast.
28:00Uh so that's uh kind of a short uh in on the the planning aspects with uh projects.
28:07Uh we were out to bed for a prairie, and the the results were favorable, uh pretty much right on budget, and uh hear more on that.
28:17The prairie project again is uh doing more or less a revamp of the entire park that includes uh I guess that would feature uh redoing the courts.
28:28So the four tennis courts that exist there will become two tennis and eight pickleball over at Prairie Park.
28:35Uh south side location.
28:36We don't have pickleball courts currently on the south side, and that should complete our pickleball uh armada throughout the throughout the community.
28:46So we have the different locations, uh banting, lowell, Buckner, and now Prairie.
28:53Uh we're also doing the the ball fields, uh total redo uh the fencing, backstop, etc.
29:01of the uh baseball diamond uh that's also utilized by uh, for example, for uh uh JV uh baseball and our programs, and uh there's a softball field that's also uh uh in the park that's gonna be redone with uh brand new fencing as well.
29:20Uh lights, uh we have uh multi-sport field, primarily used for football, some soccer, etc.
29:29And uh the oldest lighting system that we've had uh in the city, that's where it's at.
29:36Uh used to be Buckner Park.
29:38And um, what else we got?
29:40That that pretty much covers prairie.
29:42There's uh Viniola still working on the final design, going out the bid on the building.
29:48Uh there's been some uh we needed to do some we call value engineering to get the project to fit the budget.
29:56Uh but a very nice building, staying true to uh what uh our priorities were.
30:02Restroom facilities be equal to which you what we have over at uh Cutler Park, and that accommodates crowds from two to three thousand.
30:13We still would have uh auxiliary uh portable toilets.
30:17Uh most sports facilities will have that, but uh it'll be supported now by actual restroom facilities.
30:24Uh community room is still part of the project, certainly.
30:28Uh, and uh concessions.
30:31So that'll be a big piece of the revenue uh picture on that.
30:36Um other projects, uh well, um pools, lots of pools.
30:44It's right around the corner.
30:46We're gonna get pool like weather starting uh sounds like now next week.
30:50It's supposed to get cold again.
30:52And uh, but next week it looks like more like uh summer.
30:56I've you know you hear that all the time.
30:58Uh but uh opening day is sneaking up, uh June 6th.
31:03And uh so um yeah, uh Memorial Day events, don't forget about that.
31:09Uh we have uh uh we have a different ceremonies.
31:13There's a march that starts at the state office building, works its way across Barstow Bridge down Main Street over uh into uh Cutler Park.
31:24So it's a short, it's called a march versus a parade.
31:28And uh then there's a ceremony at Cutler.
31:31There's a river ceremony at nine, I believe we have it, and then uh we have this uh another ceremony over at Cutler Park.
31:40Uh and uh that is uh uh the VFW and Allied veterans are co-sponsoring working together on Advent.
31:48So great to see, and that's you know that's really what it's uh you know what it's all about.
31:56So hopefully you can get out and uh uh take advantage of uh uh that uh remembrance.
32:06All right, uh lots more going on, but that's kind of the highlights that uh other projects.
32:13Uh we can probably say that for meeting time.
32:16I can say that for another time.
32:18Uh we're making progress, though.
32:20Last I'll say is in the formal gardens.
32:22That project is been something.
32:25Uh so um, but uh I believe the new servicing went in with the trails, so we're kind of excited about that.
32:33Uh so keeping further suspense.
32:36So uh Mark Thompson, recreation.
32:43All right, thank you, Ron.
32:44Um, so as Ron stated, summer is coming, and the team has been extremely busy.
32:49Um so Logan and his team have been uh out at the pools just making sure that we're prepping things in anticipation of the season.
32:56Um we have one of the pools full.
32:57Buckner is gonna start filling here in the next week.
33:00Um hiring is ongoing.
33:02We still have a couple positions uh that we have open at the pools, but we're really only looking for a few lifeguards at this point.
33:08Usually we're still looking for like 10 plus.
33:10So it's looking very good for the aquatics team schedule.
33:14Um Pro Health hosted their cancer walk on May 2nd.
33:17We had over 800 people, um, 800 runners and walkers um at Frame Park, and it was a beautiful day, and it was a great event for an awesome cause.
33:26Um, Joanna and her team have been working with the Remember Our Falling Committee.
33:30Um, so the committee was formed with local veterans uh who served during the global war on terrorism, um city staff who served um uh who served during the global war on terror, and then also park record forestry staff.
33:42Um we're working on the ceremonies, a program, layout, sponsors, and logistics, and the opening ceremony is planned for 6 p.m.
33:49on Wednesday, August 19th at the Schutzsee Recreation Center.
33:53And there'll be more information to come as we get closer to that event.
33:57Deb has been um working very diligently in securing uh sponsorship banners.
34:02Um we have great example out at WRO.
34:04Um WRO has sold very well.
34:07Um, so we have a good variety of banners out there, great colors out there.
34:11Um I just think that it uh it was tactfully done where it's doesn't look like we just shotgun blasted banners out there.
34:17They all look very professional and they're very well designed.
34:20Um, and the program is is going very well.
34:23Um Cheryl, she's been busy.
34:26Uh youth softball, uh baseball and t ball.
34:28We have 48 teams full of 12 players, so the program is at capacity.
34:32Um with our adult softball, we have 115 teams playing this summer, and then we have 10 adult kickball teams.
34:38Um, in addition to that, youth spring soccer leagues uh wrapped up this past Saturday.
34:44Um, we do have a couple games that kind of spilled over into this week, um, but we had 75 teams registered for that program.
34:51Um, and then we're anticipating 75 plus for this fall as well.
34:54Uh so our youth sports youth sports program continue to grow.
35:00Gayla and her team are working very hard on the summer, excuse me, summer explorers program.
35:07And we did get verbal confirmation from DPI that we are able to move the Hawthorne grant over to Lowell for this next school year.
35:14So we are able to continue that grant offering free after school care over at Lowell with a transfer of that grant.
35:20And registration has opened up for next school year as well as summer programs.
35:26So lots and lots of youth enrollments.
35:29And uh last but certainly not least, um, we just renewed our contract in partnership with the school district of Waukeshaw for 4K services.
35:37Um so just a friendly reminder that we have been in a partnership with the School District of Waukesha for 15 plus school years now over at the Shutzee Recreation Center, offering 4K services.
35:46Um have a great relationship with the school district and uh just looking forward to continuing that partnership.
35:52And that's what we have on recreation.
35:56Now we'll pass on to Mark Schramm.
36:04All right, so I get to speak a little bit more on the master plan.
36:09Uh so like Ron mentioned, we attended uh or had three uh different uh pop-up engagement activities to uh gauge some public uh input and feedback.
36:20Uh the first one was at the library where we were connecting with teens.
36:24Our second one was at our cool school run uh to connect with children and adults, families, and then the last one was at Senior Bingo at SRC uh to connect with our seniors.
36:37Had a great turnout at all of those um programs and events, a lot of feedback and participation, so it was great data to collect.
36:46Um, and also in conjunction of having our pop-up engagements, we've had a survey circulating for um a week and a half.
36:56Uh the survey is uh live until May 31st.
37:01Uh as we stand right now, we have 582 responses as of this morning, um, and a good response rate that we've been told from our consultants is 500 to 700 for a community of our size.
37:14Uh so we're doing really well, working really hard on uh getting the information out there, whether it's on a website, social media displays, newsletters, emails, signs in the parks.
37:26Um, so a lot of effort uh has been going into that so that we can gain as much public uh feedback and input as possible.
37:34Um outside of master plan updates for the admin team, it's been a busy month for us.
37:40Uh we've assisted with 285 rentals this past month, uh, which uh 87% of those are in person.
37:50Um so far we've also sold 535 pool memberships and assisted with 5,291 um program enrollments.
38:01Uh so it's been a busy month for us.
38:08And this uh add on to Mark indicated as part of the process again with the park and recreation system uh master plan is the board.
38:18You're not excluded from the from the process at all.
38:22Uh once uh we have the initial gathering of information from the public uh we are looking at putting a workshop together as we've done with strategic plans for those that have been on the board for a bit.
38:34And uh so keep that in mind.
38:37I know the summer is always tricky, but uh uh we usually look for like a Saturday, uh Saturday morning seems to work pretty well, and that would be with uh our uh leadership staff and with uh with you guys with the uh Park Rec Forestry Board.
38:55I'm also gonna be reaching out to uh all the aldermen uh get their ideas about parks and everything parks in Rec and Forestry.
39:06And uh so more to come.
39:07I guess that's what I'm saying is that uh there's definitely uh a piece of that puzzle uh that involves uh specifically uh PRF board.
39:18Okay, that concludes our report for tonight.
39:23Great, and with no further discussion, we are adjourned.