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Joint Legislation and Public Safety Committee on Violations of Probation – June 1, 2026

Board of Legislators & CommitteesMonday, June 1, 2026
BodyWestchester County, New York
SessionBoard of Legislators & Committees
DateMonday, June 1, 2026
StatusFILED
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0:00

Uh what is today?

0:01

Monday, June 1st, first day of June.

0:04

And hopefully that means we're actually closer to summer now than we've been.

0:08

Um this is a meeting uh committee on legislation joint with uh the committee on public safety and veterans.

0:15

I'm going to uh take attendance to open legislation.

0:20

I am here.

0:21

Uh committee vice chair Emma Morrow.

0:24

Here uh board vice chair Clements here, minority lead leader comes here, legislator barr.

0:37

Here legislator Nolan here, legislator Fuja, yeah.

0:44

Legislator Uli.

0:46

Here and Chairman Gossi.

0:49

Yeah.

0:49

Okay, uh legislation is open at 11 p.m.

0:56

Thank you.

0:57

It's 11 p.m.

0:58

opening up public safety and veterans.

1:01

Uh Vice Chair Clements here.

1:04

Legislator Kunzio?

1:05

Here.

1:05

Let's say Smith.

1:06

Here.

1:08

Woodson Samuels.

1:09

And Chairman Gashi.

1:10

Here and myself.

1:11

We have quorum.

1:12

We are open.

1:13

Thank you.

1:14

Okay, great.

1:15

So now I'm going to hold on one second, Margaret.

1:18

So I'm gonna ask.

1:19

We have uh some guests with us today here to for today's topic.

1:23

We have our uh district attorney as well as our county attorney and uh two members of their team.

1:29

I'm gonna ask that you join us here at the uh head of the table, whomever uh would like to come up and and while you're now good time to some of our colleagues to move in maybe and while you're doing that, they have to move that we're gonna make rolls.

1:45

And I'll make a motion for the initial approval for legislation for the two sets of minutes.

1:58

All right.

1:59

So we're gonna take a vote on that.

2:01

I yes.

2:03

Um board vice chair Clemens, yes.

2:09

Minority Leader Cunseo.

2:11

Yes, legislator barrels.

2:15

Yes.

2:16

Legislator Nolan.

2:18

Yes, legislator Puja.

2:20

Yes, legislator Uli.

2:22

Yes.

2:23

And Chairman Gotcha.

2:24

Yes.

2:25

Okay, that's our accepted.

2:27

And now everybody's at the table.

2:31

Excellent.

2:32

So uh I want to also note uh for the record that we are joined um remotely by legislator Williams Johnson, as well as our Commissioner of probation, uh Commissioner Robert Posey.

2:48

How are you doing, sir?

2:50

Recovering.

2:51

I feel a little better every day.

2:54

I mean, uh, you know, we we appreciate that you joined us today, but I hope you didn't uh feel that you know it was required given that you are recovering, but we do wish you a speedy recovery in the meantime.

3:07

Um with the board.

3:10

Thank you, Colin.

3:11

Yes, of course.

3:12

And and we're also joined by as I said earlier, the um district attorney, the county attorney, and uh their associates.

3:19

So if you want to just state your name for the record, please.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Public Safety████████████████████████████████████████40%
Pending Litigation███████████████████████████████████35%
Labor Relations████████8%
Personnel Matters█████5%
Public Sector Employee Benefits█████5%
Procedural████4%
Budget Equity Analysis███3%
Summary of Proceedings

Joint Legislation and Public Safety Committee Meeting on Violations of Probation – June 1, 2026

The joint Legislation and Public Safety committees met on Monday, June 1, 2026, at 1:11 PM in the Committee Room of the Michaelian Office Building. The primary agenda item was a discussion on violations of probation (VOPs) and proposed charter legislation to remove the County Attorney’s Office from handling these cases. District Attorney Susan Cacace, First Deputy District Attorney Nancy Barry, County Attorney John Nonna, Chief Deputy County Attorney Stacey Dolgin-Kmetz, Assistant Chief Deputy County Attorney Justin Adin, and Commissioner of Probation Rocco Pozzi participated. The meeting adjourned at 2:28 PM without a vote on the legislation, as it had been previously approved in committee.

Minutes Approval

  • The minutes from May 4, 2026, and May 18, 2026, were approved unanimously by voice vote (motion by Legislator Cunzio, seconded by Legislator Gashi).

Discussion Items

  • Proposed Charter Amendment: County Attorney John Nonna explained that his office lacks criminal law expertise and does not believe it should handle VOPs, which stem from criminal proceedings. The proposed amendment would delete the sentence in the county charter that currently allows the County Attorney’s Office to handle these cases. He noted that special prosecutors are already appointed for conflict cases where the DA is recused.
  • District Attorney’s Staffing Concerns: District Attorney Cacace stated that her office has experienced a 12% decrease in legal staff (16 vacancies out of 130 authorized positions) due to a hiring freeze, lack of salary increases since 2024, and pay disparity with the County Attorney’s Office (starting salary $83,000 vs. $97,000). She warned that if staffing worsens, the office may be unable to handle VOPs, forcing the county to pay for special prosecutors at rates of $300–$400 per hour, compared to $158 per hour for court-appointed 18-B attorneys. She emphasized that VOPs are civil under penal law, though the county attorney argued they are quasi-criminal.
  • Probation Commissioner’s Position: Commissioner Pozzi stated that regardless of legal classification, there is a clear need for legal representation of probation officers at VOP hearings. He opposed splitting responsibility between offices, arguing that one entity should handle all VOPs due to the seriousness of potential liberty deprivations.
  • Legislator Comments: Legislator Nolan noted that other counties (Nassau, Suffolk, Dutchess, Putnam) handle VOPs through their DA’s offices. Chairman Gashi clarified that the legislation does not mandate the DA to handle VOPs, only removes the obligation from the County Attorney. Several legislators (e.g., Barr, Nambiar) supported the amendment, arguing that criminal law expertise is best suited to the DA’s office. Legislator Holstein requested data on county attorney hours spent on VOPs. Legislator Williams Johnson raised alternative models (e.g., administrative hearings or probation courts) used in other states, though Commissioner Pozzi noted New York law requires court involvement. Legislator Ulaj supported keeping VOPs with the DA due to staff expertise.
  • Calendar Management Issues: DA Cacace and First Deputy Barry described inefficiencies in VOP court calendars, with cases being adjourned to multiple days and ad hoc scheduling, increasing attorney time and costs. They suggested the problem may be due to judge discretion and training.

Key Outcomes

  • No vote was taken on the proposed charter legislation; it had already been approved in a prior committee meeting.
  • Chair Smith committed to scheduling another joint meeting of the Legislation and Public Safety committees to further discuss staffing issues, pay parity, and potential solutions with the District Attorney and Commissioner of Probation.
  • The committees agreed that the broader issues of hiring freezes, salary competitiveness, and court calendar management require separate follow-up discussions.

Meeting Transcript

Uh what is today? Monday, June 1st, first day of June. And hopefully that means we're actually closer to summer now than we've been. Um this is a meeting uh committee on legislation joint with uh the committee on public safety and veterans. I'm going to uh take attendance to open legislation. I am here. Uh committee vice chair Emma Morrow. Here uh board vice chair Clements here, minority lead leader comes here, legislator barr. Here legislator Nolan here, legislator Fuja, yeah. Legislator Uli. Here and Chairman Gossi. Yeah. Okay, uh legislation is open at 11 p.m. Thank you. It's 11 p.m. opening up public safety and veterans. Uh Vice Chair Clements here. Legislator Kunzio? Here. Let's say Smith. Here. Woodson Samuels. And Chairman Gashi. Here and myself. We have quorum. We are open. Thank you. Okay, great. So now I'm going to hold on one second, Margaret. So I'm gonna ask. We have uh some guests with us today here to for today's topic. We have our uh district attorney as well as our county attorney and uh two members of their team. I'm gonna ask that you join us here at the uh head of the table, whomever uh would like to come up and and while you're now good time to some of our colleagues to move in maybe and while you're doing that, they have to move that we're gonna make rolls. And I'll make a motion for the initial approval for legislation for the two sets of minutes. All right. So we're gonna take a vote on that. I yes. Um board vice chair Clemens, yes. Minority Leader Cunseo. Yes, legislator barrels. Yes. Legislator Nolan. Yes, legislator Puja. Yes, legislator Uli. Yes. And Chairman Gotcha. Yes. Okay, that's our accepted. And now everybody's at the table. Excellent.

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