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Wichita City Council Regular Meeting Summary – October 7, 2025

City CouncilTuesday, October 7, 2025
BodyWichita, Kansas
SessionCity Council
DateTuesday, October 7, 2025
StatusFILED
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17:29

By the way, it's much cheaper.

17:50

I thought it was cherry something.

18:10

Good morning, City of Wichita staff.

18:12

Can you please roll the video?

18:17

Thank you for attending today's city council meeting.

18:20

Please take a moment to silence your mobile device.

18:24

If you wish to speak on an agenda item after the mayor invites public comment, proceed to the podium, state your name and address, and you will be given five minutes to speak.

18:35

A timer can be viewed on the podium screen.

18:38

You may speak one time per agenda item.

18:42

Please refrain from clapping after other speakers.

18:48

Let's pause a moment for our television audience to join us.

20:04

Please join me in a time of meditation.

20:08

Almighty, we give thanks.

20:10

Thanks for the gentle rain falling early this morning that prepares us for the winter ahead of us.

20:16

Thanks for the warm fall days that make our hearts sing.

20:20

They just sing with joy.

20:22

We give thanks for the people who are in this room and the many in all the buildings and places where Wichita's employees do their jobs who are dedicating their lives to leading and working to carry out the city's mission to be a place where life unfolds for the better.

20:40

We give thanks for the citizens who are here today.

20:44

We give thanks for the dedication of our leaders here for remembering those who for whom life is hard and to have a passion to put in place ways forward for those who find life hard.

20:59

We are blessed to be in a city where the people, leaders, and residents alike recognize the beauty and value of all of our residents, rich and poor alike.

21:16

Today, as this council begins its daily deliberations, we pray for guidance that actions taken reflect the often spoken desire to make this city the best place it can be, providing a good place to work, live, play, and a place to give thanks for all residents rich and poor.

21:36

So may the council begin the day with a heart for creating a place full of justice, opportunity, and peace.

21:44

May the needs of the many be balanced and affirmed in the deliberations taken today.

21:50

So be it.

21:52

Thank you.

21:56

I fled allegiance to the flight of the United States of America.

22:01

And to the Republic for which it stands.

22:04

One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

22:12

Thank you, Pastor Goldtree.

22:15

Madam Clerk, can you please call the first item?

22:18

Approve the minutes of the regular meeting, September 23rd, 2025.

22:23

Council members, any items to be edited.

22:29

I see none.

22:30

I move to approve the minutes for the regular meeting for September 23rd, 2025.

22:36

Second.

22:37

Motion and a second, any further discussion?

22:39

I see none.

22:40

Madam Clerk, please open the roll.

22:44

Aye.

22:48

Motion passes.

22:49

Seven seven zero.

22:52

Madam Clerk, please call the next item.

22:56

Awards and proclamations.

22:57

Today's proclamations are National Arts and Humanities Month, Woktober, Family Promise Week 2025, and Fire Prevention Week.

23:06

May I please ask the representatives for City Arts and Councilmember Tuttle and Councilmember Glasscock, who serves on the Wichita Art Museum Board.

24:20

Good morning.

24:24

Good morning, Shane.

24:28

Good morning.

24:37

Thank you all very much for attending this morning's City Council meeting.

24:42

I will read the proclamation.

25:06

Whereas this support recognizes and encourages the growing number of Americans contributing to the flourishing cultural sector, giving voice to a collective identity and sharing artistic gifts with people of all ages.

25:21

Whereas institutions that promote and provide access to artistic work, strengthen civic engagement, foster understanding across cultures, and inspire a shared vision for the future, adding 185 million dollars to Wichita's economy, 1.4 billion dollars statewide, and 151 billion dollars nationwide.

25:46

Whereas the City of Wichita is committed to equitable access to cultural arts opportunities, activating and strengthening the creative potential of the community so that artistic expression thrives and cultural heritage is preserved and celebrated.

26:03

Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Wichita City Council does hereby proclaim the month of October 2025 as National Arts and Humanities Month.

26:21

Good morning.

26:22

Thank you, Mayor and City Council, for recognizing Arts and Humanities month here in Wichita and across the nation.

26:28

My name is Lindsay Panaka, and it's my honor to serve as the city's director of arts and cultural services.

26:33

And I get to work with all these wonderful, beautiful people behind me who represent uh different museums, arts organizations, the nonprofit sector, the for-profit sector, individual artists, and just arts enthusiasts from across the community.

26:46

And we're celebrating not just here in Wichita, but across the country, our cultural core as a community.

26:51

As the mayor mentioned in the proclamation, the arts are a major business player here in Wichita, representing about 3,000 full-time equivalent jobs.

26:59

That's about as many full-time positions as we have with the city of Wichita that are represented across the arts sector.

27:05

There are over 80 nonprofit arts and culture organizations in Wichita and countless for-profit small businesses and independent art entrepreneurs who also call Wichita home.

27:16

But the arts are so much more than business, as we all know.

27:18

Arts and humanity is a mirror of our community.

27:21

The sector reflects what makes our community unique.

27:23

It's what makes our community beautiful.

27:25

The arts and humanities are offer safe places for us to present and share ideas.

27:34

And they really share our collective community.

27:38

This month, their October alone, there are 161 arts and humanities related events happening in Wichita.

27:45

And this is not unique to October.

27:47

Every month there are hundreds of opportunities in the community from film screenings to exhibit openings to dance and theatrical performance to musical concerts, you name it, we've got it here in Wichita.

27:57

Uh, to learn more about the arts and culture sector in Wichita, I encourage everyone to visit Wichita.gov slash arts, where you can find out what the city does.

28:05

Uh, but also encourage everyone to check out our partner organization, The Shout at Shout Wichita.com and check out their events calendar in particular.

28:13

That's something that the city's really supportive of because it's where you can find everything that's happening in the local arts community.

28:18

And again, there are 161 unique events in October alone.

28:22

Um so be sure to check out that community calendar.

28:25

I also want to encourage everyone to attend our monthly arts mixer.

28:29

Uh, this is a series that pops up every month in a unique arts and culture space in the community.

28:33

It's free, it's informal, it's just an excuse to get out and see a space that you might not have been to before.

28:38

Uh this month we're meeting on October 9th, this Thursday, from 5 to 7 p.m.

28:43

at one of Wichita's newest art spaces, Maven Art Gallery at uh 3238 East Douglas.

28:48

So with that, thank you again for the recognition.

28:50

Thank you to everyone behind me who does all the work in the community, and thank you to the Wichita community for supporting such a vibrant arts and culture sector.

28:57

Thank you.

29:16

Yes, yes, there you go, sir.

29:20

How you do?

29:26

One, two, three.

29:29

One, two, three.

29:50

She's here.

29:52

I don't know if she's here, but she's always been driving.

29:55

She might be.

29:56

She's banged up.

30:03

She might be near the go to the council.

30:10

Good to see you, Jeremy.

30:15

While our guests exit, I'm just gonna make mention that no mar Fiesta celebrated the Hispanic and Latino culture this past Saturday, and down in South Wichita, we had the Vietnamese fall festival celebrating the rich culture of the Vietnamese community.

30:33

So again, they were also celebrating arts and culture in Wichita on Saturday.

31:03

I look like a runner.

31:04

While our guests come forward, I'm just gonna say that the Prairie Fire Marathon, Half Marathon, and 5K will be held this Sunday at Equity Bank Park, and so you can still sign up for that 5K half marathon and marathon.

31:21

I will read this proclamation.

31:23

The City of Wichita, Kansas founded in 1870, whereas Bike Walk Wichita is partnering with the City of Wichita and community organizations to celebrate Walktober and encourage residents to enjoy walking and outdoor activities.

31:40

Whereas the pleasant temperatures and beautiful scenery of October provides the perfect opportunity to promote regular physical activity, such as walking, which improves overall health, reduces the risk of chronic disease, and supports mental well-being.

31:58

Whereas Walktober is a community-wide initiative that inspires individuals and neighborhoods to make walking a daily habit, fostering healthy lifestyles and increased physical activity.

32:13

Whereas participating in Woktober strengthens community connections and builds relationships among friends, families, co-workers, and neighbors through shared outdoor experiences.

33:19

Whether it's a morning stroll to clear your mind, a lunchtime walk with coworkers, or an evening adventure throughout your neighborhood.

33:27

Every step strengthens not only our bodies, but the fabric of our community.

33:51

Together we've shown that when we make walking easy, accessible, safe, and fun, people respond and our neighborhoods thrive.

34:00

Walking improves physical and mental health, reduces stress, supports local businesses, and helps us see your community in a new light.

34:26

Participation means getting out there and taking a walk.

34:29

Advocation means encouraging others to join you.

35:01

Thank you.

35:19

Thank you.

35:25

Thank you again to Bikewalk Wichita.

35:27

And I also want to use a point of privilege to thank the Park and Rec department for organizing Open Streets ICT, the three events this year.

35:37

Your entire staff did a great job encouraging people to walk, to bike, to scoot around with their scooters and just have a good time with community.

35:46

So thank you to the Parks and Rec department.

35:49

May I please ask the family promise of Greater Wichita to come forward at this time.

36:07

And Councilmember Ballard.

36:14

The proclamation reads, the City of Wichita, Kansas founded in 1870, whereas Family Promise of Greater Wichita began operations in October of twenty sixteen with a mission to serve the most vulnerable among us, children and families facing homelessness and housing insecurity, and has since become a leading voice for sustainable community-driven solutions.

36:41

Whereas Family Promise brings together more than one thousand local volunteers, dozens of faith organizations, and a network of dedicated partners to provide shelter, meals, and relational support that preserves family dignity and offer hope in times of crisis.

37:04

Whereas through collaborative partnerships with donors, landlords, and local service providers, family promise prevents homelessness through rental assistance and wraparound services that reduce trauma and strengthen the entire community.

37:23

Whereas rooted in the belief that every child deserves a home, family promise continues to expand its impact each year, empowering families on their journey to lasting stability through innovative programs and a compassionate relationship-centered approach.

37:44

Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Wichita City Council does hereby proclaim October sixth through tenth, twenty twenty-five as Family Promise Week twenty twenty-five.

38:01

Good morning.

38:01

My name is Dawn Epp, and I'm the executive director of Family Promise of Greater Wichita.

38:06

And behalf of on behalf of our organization, we want to thank our the City of Wichita, our mayor, and our councilman for supporting us in this effort and recognizing this week.

38:18

Family homelessness is a hidden crisis, and we are proud to work with community partners.

38:24

We're part of the Coalition to End Homelessness, a wide volunteer base to really change the narrative on this issue.

38:32

And this week, as Family Promise Week, we will work very hard to do that.

38:37

So again, I want to thank you for your support.

38:40

And please follow us on Facebook to know how you can support this work.

38:44

Thank you.

39:22

May I please ask Wichita's finest and bravest, the Wichita Fire Department to come forward at this time.

39:31

And any of the council members who would like to come to the front for this proclamation.

40:06

The proclamation reads the city of Wichita, Kansas founded in 1870, whereas the City of Wichita is committed to ensuring the safety and security of all residents and visitors, and fire remains a serious public safety concern, both locally and nationally, with the widespread use of lithium-ion batteries, adding unique fire risks.

40:31

Whereas many household electronics, including smartphones, tablets, laptops, power tools, e-bikes, e-scooters, and toys, use lithium-ion batteries that, if misused, damage or improperly charged, can overheat, ignite, or explode, as noted by the National Fire Protection Association, which urges residents to buy only listed products, charge batteries safely, and recycle them responsibly.

41:04

Whereas lithium ion batteries store significant energy in a compact space and practices such as overcharging, using uncertified chargers, or exposing batteries to damage greatly increase the risk of fire or explosion.

41:23

Whereas proper disposal and recycling of lithium ion batteries help prevent environmental hazards and reduce fire risks, and the 2025 fire prevention week theme: charge into fire safety, lithium ion batteries in your home, reminds everyone to use charge and recycle batteries safely.

41:49

Now, therefore be it resolved that the Wichita City Council does hereby proclaim October 5th through 11th, 2025 as fire prevention week.

42:06

Good morning, Tammy Snow, Fire Chief.

42:09

First of all, I want to thank Mayor Wu and City Council for this proclamation.

42:15

Also to thank the citizens of the community in helping us prevent fires each and every day.

42:22

Fire prevention week is an opportunity to remind the community that fire safety starts at home and in everyday actions.

42:30

It's a time to educate, engage, and empower our residents to take simple steps to save lives, like checking your smoke alarms, planning escape routes, and practicing safe habits.

42:43

Through this observance, we reinforce our shared responsibility to prevent fires before they happen and to protect this community.

42:52

Thank you for your help.

44:06

Madam Clerk, can you please call the next item?

44:10

Public agenda.

44:16

No action will be taken relative to items on the public agenda other than referral to the city manager for information as necessary.

44:22

Speakers will please state their name and address for the record.

44:28

Order and rules of decorum will be observed.

44:31

The first speaker is Lisa Fry Blue, First and Second Street and McLean Boulevard.

44:41

Good morning, Mayor and Council members.

44:44

Lisa Fry Bloom, 3721, East Twenty Fourth Street North.

44:49

And I'm here today as a volunteer with Bikwok Wichita.

44:53

And I want to tell you about a road safety assessment that we did on August 18th.

45:00

I invited partners to assess the intersection at First and Second Street and McLean Boulevard with me.

45:06

So I often walk that intersection, I walk it alone, I walk with my family.

45:11

And I'd become aware of dangers in that intersection.

45:16

And I wanted to do an assessment with people who know the area, who know about safe walking, and who know about traffic safety.

45:25

So I was uh lucky two of your your city staff members participated uh with me in that assessment, Paul Gunzelman, traffic engineer, and Jamie Nix, your director of libraries.

45:37

Um, and we were joined by Dustin Hendricks of Exploration Place, Holly Tyrrell of Bikewalk, Wichita, and Shelley Rich of the Health and Wellness Coalition.

45:46

Um, and we also appreciate that Councilmember Ballard um was not able to attend, but she expressed interest, and uh all those people got to see the the report that I prepared after our assessment.

46:00

Um, and I emailed that report to you last week, and so you have it, and I hope I hope you will look at it if you haven't already, because it's only four pages, and one of them's pictures.

46:13

And I want I just want to highlight um three considerations that we believe should prioritize this intersections upgrades.

46:22

Um the first, I know you're well aware of the first and second street bridge replacement that's um directly to the east of this intersection.

46:30

At our assessment, we talked to, you know, some of us talked about how this is is really just an extension from that bridge.

46:38

Uh something that we really talked about was the current exploration place outdoor expansion.

46:43

Um it's going to require that families visiting that attraction park nearby, they're gonna have to walk in that intersection to um access the amenity.

46:54

And um Dustin had reported that already some of their events, like their their outdoor movie nights, um, families have had to park and and walk, and they've kind of watched them struggle doing some of that.

47:08

Um finally, it's a it's a gateway to the west end of downtown to Delano to the Ark River Path, to the keeper of the plains.

47:15

You know, we know that residents and visitors are in this intersection.

47:20

Um we do feel it needs to be safer, it needs to be more comfortable for those of all ages and abilities and and all users of the road.

47:33

So um, as we heard, it's Waktober.

47:36

It's also National Pedestrian Safety Month.

47:40

And uh, you know, I just thought what better time to talk to you about this intersection.

47:45

And I I I provided the detailed concerns and recommendations of our assessment in that report, so you have that.

47:52

Um, and we and we just really feel that this this intersection needs to um be planned and upgraded for for a minimum um of upgrades, but it could also be reconfigured.

48:06

Um some of us talked about that you know, a traffic circle might be appropriate, as is just uh a couple blocks south in Delano.

48:16

So thank you very much for looking and reading at the report and for hearing me today.

48:25

Thank you, Lisa.

48:26

Madam Clerk, can you please call the next individual?

48:30

Ronald Meagle, City Collaboration with Federal Immigration Officials and other federal law enforcement agencies.

48:42

Uh Ronald Negel, 2242 Lindbergh Street.

48:47

I'd like to thank the Commission and the Mayor for allowing me this opportunity to speak.

48:52

I am here today to address some of the concerns of your constituency.

48:58

The Wichita Citizen and other towns, media has reported that city law enforcement has met with federal law enforcement to engage what can only be described as uncommon collaborations with representatives of the Trump administration.

49:17

Specifically, I am referring to immigration enforcement, but more generally, my questions regard any law enforcement agency, federal law enforcement agencies.

49:29

I am asking the city commission and or the police department to issue a media release answering the following questions.

49:48

Commonly known as IS, or the FBI, or any other federal officials for any situations that could be considered uncommon historically uncommon.

50:03

Have any meetings have any such meetings already occurred?

50:10

Are any such meetings planned?

50:14

Absent an answer today, I respectfully request of the city that prior to entering into any such agreements or future meetings with federal law enforcement that the commission inform the public prior to their decision and allow multiple opportunities for the public to comment prior to any such actions.

50:43

To summarize my request, please, as representatives of the people of Wichita, do not blindside the public with a decision to facilitate immigration enforcement.

50:58

Thank you for your attention to these matters.

51:11

Thank you, Mayor.

51:12

Um I agree with you, sir.

51:15

Um can't speak for ICE.

51:17

I do want to let you know we approve these things.

51:20

Um I think annually.

51:22

We do have joint task force work.

51:24

It's not uncommon.

51:26

It's work that's been happening for years with the police department, with the Department of Justice, ATF.

51:32

I think there's another department that they're working on, and there's just different efforts that they have.

51:36

It's not around ICE or immigration, but those partnerships and collaborations have been occurring for years, just so you know.

51:44

Um nothing nefarious there with that, but I agree with you on going forward with some of those other things going on in the country.

51:55

Madam Clerk, can you please call the next individual?

51:59

Stephen Achman, AI powered surveillance cameras.

52:05

Steve Amod, uh 540 East 21st Street North.

52:10

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

52:12

Every day we hear more about AI and maybe put in more and more things.

52:15

I'm sure some of you may use it or enjoy content created by it.

52:18

I'm here to tell you there's ongoing unacceptable use of it happening in the city.

52:22

The City of Wichita has taken a contract with flock safety starting in 2020 and expanding it in 2024.

52:27

I'm certain all of you are familiar with it and how according to WPD has recovered 5.4 million dollars of stolen property and allegedly solved violent crime.

52:34

WPD has also stated the data from the cameras deleted after 30 days and are only used to take photos of license plates.

52:40

Of each city council member here, I ask of you, have any of you actually walked past any of these cameras?

52:46

If you had, you uh if you'd paid attention to them, you would know that they take photos of more than just those license plates, but also pay uh uh photos of people and their faces.

52:55

Uh if you pay attention to Flock's own marketing and even just their website, you'll see they want to help in prev uh in predictive policing and want to expand to private companies so they can monitor employees.

53:09

The council approved and expanded the use of city of cameras in the city, and that expansion came out of cost, as each camera cost $30,000 a year to operate and 1.5 thousand dollars to install.

53:20

Based on the April 2024 number of 167 cameras in the city, that comes to an outrageous cost of five million dollars a year to operate these cameras.

53:29

Flock is not only a concern or a waste of money, but an active threat to public safety.

53:34

In the town of Evanston, Illinois, the city canceled their contract with Flock after they violated Illinois law and shared data with federal agencies without permission.

53:42

After taking them down, the cameras were then put back up by Flock despite the demands of the city.

53:47

And so the city had to resort to taping the cameras up and blocking them from being able to record any other cars or people.

53:54

In 2021, a deputy in Ketchy here in Central County used Flock cameras to stalk his ex.

53:59

Further, in 2022, a police chief in the set in the city of Sedgwick misused the city cameras 228 times to stalk his ex and her new boyfriend.

54:08

The cameras remain a threat to public, not only due to possible abuse by law enforcement on the local level, but on the federal level and threats to privacy and security of our democracy.

54:17

I employ every member of this council to immediately cancel the contract of Flock and demand every single camera be taken down as soon as possible.

54:24

Predictive policing has absolutely no place in Wichita and is not welcomed by the people living here.

54:30

I also encourage members of City Council and anyone in this room to talk to me after this meeting if you have any further questions so we can keep the discussion active and solve this becomes before it becomes a further issue.

54:39

And with the remaining three minutes, any questions I will gladly answer them.

54:45

Seeing none, I thank you for your time.

54:47

Thank you, Stephen.

54:49

Madam Madam Clerk, can you please call the next individual?

54:54

Jeff Moore, the homeless problem.

55:05

Jeff Moore.

55:07

I see he's not here.

55:09

Madam Clerk, can you please call the next individual?

55:12

420 Gym camping ordinance.

55:19

I also don't see this individual.

55:22

That means we have two spots for anyone who would like to address the council.

55:28

I you can come up to the microphone.

55:31

You have five minutes.

55:32

Please state your name and your address.

55:46

Good morning.

55:49

My name is Chelsea Portillo.

55:51

I'm a constituent of Ron Estes.

55:57

I live on the east side of Wichita, 1133, North Belrose in District 1.

56:05

For the past two years, while Wichita has continued life as normal, Gaza has endured relentless bombardment, siege and starvation.

56:17

90% of Gaza's population has been displaced.

56:21

Over 680,000 Palestinians have been killed, and essential infrastructure, such as hospitals and water systems, are just gone.

56:35

People are dying of hunger and disease in this modern age in the year of our Lord, 2025.

56:42

But this didn't begin in 2023.

56:45

Palestine has been under illegal occupation for 77 years.

56:50

Since 1948, millions of Palestinians have been exiled and denied their basic human rights since the Nakba in 1948, which I encourage all of you to look up immediately.

57:04

Israel has illegally expanded settlements, annexed land, and imposed apartheid policies.

57:15

Apartheid policies across the West Bank and Gaza.

57:25

Not even a week ago.

57:26

And as of this writing, there are at least 150 activists from 20 different countries still being held in the Israeli prison.

57:36

It is time for the Midwest to lead the charge in telling Israel that enough is enough.

57:43

While Dan Osman and Barb Walsinger were busy listening to Israeli propaganda during their 50 states one Israel conference, which I again encourage you to look up if you are unaware.

57:58

Children in Gaza are dying.

58:00

They are dying torturously slow, antagonizingly painful death.

58:05

This is not a conflict.

58:07

This is not this is ethnic cleansing.

58:11

This is colonization and this is genocide.

58:14

We must speak out and we must demand justice.

58:17

We must stand with Palestine.

58:19

Thank you for your time.

58:25

Thank you, Chelsea.

58:26

We have room for one more individual who would like to address the council.

58:40

Hello, my name is Lies Alright.

58:42

I live at 2322 West 13th Street North here in Wichita.

58:48

I'm actually going to read an article from August of this year from the Canary.

58:55

An IDF soldier just exposed that Israel deliberately let October 7th happen.

59:02

Damning new testimony from an IDF soldier stationed at the Gaza border on 7th of October has backed up growing evidence that Israel deliberately allowed the Alaksa flood operation to happen.

59:16

This soldier's statement has turned the mirror on Israel's cynical propaganda once again.

59:22

While the genocidal occupier and war criminal has made repeated accusations over Hamas's human shield strategy, instead, it's Israel that has used its own soldiers and civilians as fodder for fueling its violent colonial aspirations in Palestine.

59:44

Unsurprisingly, none of the mainstream media have picked up on this.

59:49

Of course, it's in keeping with their 22-month complicity in downplaying Israel's genocide and atrocities in Gaza.

1:00:00

IDF soldier testimony suggests Israel at 7th of October happen.

1:00:04

Shalom Shitrit on ID an IDF soldier who was on duty on 7th of October has made a damning testimony to the Knesset.

1:00:16

He testified that high-level IDF officials issued a strange message the morning of Hamas's Al-Aqsa flood operation.

1:00:25

Israeli soldiers said they specifically received orders to cancel all patrols along the Gaza border from 5 20 a.m.

1:00:34

until 9 a.m.

1:00:35

on October 7th, 2023.

1:00:38

And there's footage online on this article of the Israeli soldier testifying to the Knesset Committee.

1:00:46

According to the dissident, Sri Trit said during his testimony that at 520 a.m.

1:00:53

on 7th October.

1:00:56

We are playing on the phone, and suddenly a strange message came up from my deputy commander.

1:01:01

And what he says on the radio is something like this.

1:01:31

So according to Sheet Treats testimony, someone from a place of high command decided border IDF soldiers would not patrol the morning of 7th of October.

1:01:41

Shitrit indicated how unprecedented this was.

1:03:43

Okay.

1:03:44

They killed their own people.

1:03:45

That's who killed those people.

1:03:48

Those civilians on October 7th, 2020.

1:03:51

Council Member Johnson.

1:03:52

Thanks, Mayor.

1:03:53

Just one quick question.

1:03:55

I think it's important as you talk about the war over there.

1:03:59

Do you have the latest number of folks in Gaza who've been killed?

1:04:04

The last number I saw was 64,000.

1:04:06

Do you have a number that's at least 680,000?

1:04:10

680,000.

1:04:12

Yes, at least the numbers are horribly.

1:04:15

See, it's hard to count dead people when they're under rubble.

1:04:21

And Gaza's rubble.

1:04:24

I agree.

1:04:25

The images from over there are truly disturbing, and I hope more people look in to see the tragedy happening over there.

1:04:31

Thank you for being here.

1:04:32

Absolutely.

1:04:33

Thank you.

1:04:35

Madam Clerk, can you please call the next item?

1:04:38

Consent agenda items one through 25.

1:04:44

Council members, are there any items to be pulled from the consent agenda?

1:04:49

Mayor, I'd like to pull item 5a.

1:04:58

Any other items, council members?

1:05:03

I see none.

1:05:04

I move to approve the consent agenda without item number five A.

1:05:09

Second.

1:05:10

Motion and a second.

1:05:11

Any further discussion?

1:05:13

I see none.

1:05:14

Madam Clerk, please open the roll.

1:05:26

All those in favor say aye.

1:05:28

Aye.

1:05:29

All those opposed, same sign.

1:05:31

Motion passes seven zero.

1:05:34

Item number five A in the consent agenda.

1:05:38

Thank you, Mayor.

1:05:39

I pull this item because of the uh golf board of governors uh quarterly meeting.

1:05:46

I am increasingly been getting uh complaints and calls about availability of tea times.

1:05:54

First of all, let me say that uh Jesse Kaufman, his team supported by Reggie Davison and his team have done an absolutely wonderful job of getting the golf courses back in shape, uh positive cash flow, reinvesting back in the golf courses.

1:06:12

I think that's wonderful, but you also have more people wanting to play golf because of that.

1:06:18

So I just tell you my my for the last two years, my son has complained about never getting a tea time, being able to get tea time at Texas Consolver on Saturday or Sunday morning.

1:06:30

Uh he gets up at five, he gets up at 4 30, but 5 o'clock he gets on there, he can never ever get one.

1:06:37

And uh I found out why because someone has the first four tea times on Saturday and Sunday blocked.

1:06:44

Um got a group that they blocked at tea times.

1:06:48

Um apparently there's a lot of um groups that have tea times that are blocked, not available to the general public.

1:07:00

Um I'm not against people playing golf.

1:07:03

A lot of these are seniors like me that play golf.

1:07:06

Um, but it is a good old boy's system.

1:07:09

And and I don't know if there's a balance in there, something we can do.

1:07:13

But uh the golf board of governors has authority over the golf system.

1:07:20

So recognize that, and we as city council can only course that we get only recourse we have is to eliminate the board of governors because the board of governors does have the authority.

1:07:32

Um I just really believe in the leadership of Jesse Kaufman and his team.

1:07:39

They've done a wonderful job.

1:07:41

And uh I would just ask that the Board of Governors review the policy, come up with a solution that is fair and equitable, uh, work with Jesse and Reggie and and their teams and uh come up with something that's equitable.

1:07:57

And and I'd like to just invite uh either Reggie or Jesse or both of you to the podium.

1:08:04

And if if you could address this, I would I would appreciate it.

1:08:23

So we're gonna have Jesse kind of give an overview of uh the process that you're referring to and some of the concerns we have there, and then I'll follow up with what we're doing with the next steps and how we're incorporated into our parking master plan and being able to look at the entire system and what changes we're gonna be making.

1:08:38

Thank you.

1:08:40

Good morning, Mayor City Council, uh Jesse Kaufman, uh golf division manager.

1:08:45

Uh this topic it is a big topic, you're absolutely right.

1:08:47

So I want to kind of give a little background on how the the booking process works before I get into that.

1:08:52

So uh for anyone that doesn't know, seven days in advance we open tea times at 5 a.m.

1:08:58

So this morning at 5 a.m.

1:08:59

tea times for next Tuesday opened up.

1:09:02

And the way I like to tell people it's basically we open up concert tickets for sale and they sell out immediately, uh especially the early morning times.

1:09:10

So the demand, I mean it's it's a good problem that we have that much demand, but it it is a problem, and that the goal is equity and equal access to these tea times for everyone.

1:09:21

Um over the last 30, 40 years, there have been leagues and groups that have played weekly, played regularly, and they they are uh great customers and and supporters of the golf system, but through that time uh they have been considered leagues, so they booked their tea times.

1:09:42

They basically have standing tea times throughout the entire year.

1:09:45

Uh when the golf system wasn't that busy, it wasn't a big deal because you could just get the tea time after that group.

1:09:50

Now it's a big deal.

1:09:52

Um it is by far the biggest complaint that we get.

1:09:55

Um this does fall under the scope of the board of governors, and we started several conversations earlier this year on how do we how do we get around this?

1:10:03

Um, I don't feel like they were very effective.

1:10:05

The first thing we did was try to come or the board of governors did was try to come up with to define what is considered a league.

1:10:14

Um, and that what they kind of came up with was that it needed to have at least 12 members.

1:10:18

They needed to have official bylaws and officers in place, and then the restrictions were you could only get T times two days a week.

1:10:25

Well, when you have so many groups that fall under those parameters, we really didn't achieve anything as far as um you know addressing the issue.

1:10:36

Um it's I definitely feel like the we have to readdress this and figure something out that's better.

1:10:48

Um I think for public courses, the way that we have our league set up is very it's not common at all.

1:10:55

It's more for a private course that you can get away with that on a public course, especially the demand that we have in the population and the the amount of golfers that we have here.

1:11:04

Um it does limit the amount of available tea times for the public.

1:11:08

Um so it's something that I I definitely am pushing to to address.

1:11:12

Some of the things I've done internally uh that I hope will have an effect.

1:11:16

Um this is um something I I'll get with the golf board once we we get everything in place, but is a new point of sale and t-booking, t-sheet booking uh system software.

1:11:27

Um, with this new system, it's it's the RFP is open right now, it closes at the end of this month, and then we'll do presentation.

1:11:32

And that's one of the big things I want to look at is what are the different functions that we could allow to uh groups to groups to book maybe one or two or three T times of back to back because that's that's what they want.

1:11:43

They just want to make sure we've played as a group for 30 years.

1:11:46

We want to make sure we get back to back tea times, and I understand that.

1:11:49

Um so hopefully with that new system, um, it allows for a little bit more flexibility on how we can set that up and be fair to everyone.

1:11:56

Uh maybe they don't get certain set tea times, but they can get back-to-back tea times when they're available.

1:12:02

Um, and it the other part that's a big problem is this puts a lot of unnecessary pressure on staff at the counter when someone's very upset uh about this, it's not fair to our staff because nine times out of ten, the staff agrees with the customer, but we're stuck with with the rules that we're put in place.

1:12:16

So uh definitely think uh 100% agree.

1:12:19

Um, and then I think Reggie's gonna talk about another idea that we've had um, but that's kind of where we're at.

1:12:25

I mean, it seems like it's a little bit more complicated than what it is, what it appears to be on the surface just because this has been going on for so long, and we don't want to suddenly break up these groups that have been playing forever.

1:12:35

But um uh a hundred percent we have to come up with a better solution and make sure everyone has equal access to our tea times.

1:12:43

Yeah, thank you, Jesse.

1:12:44

Just to be clear, I'm not against men's club, ladies' day, sure, couples league, none of that.

1:12:49

It's these private little one-offs.

1:12:52

And there's a lot of them.

1:12:53

I mean, we found we we know how it works when we put these parameters in place.

1:12:57

Suddenly, three groups that I don't even know if they knew each other got together and said, Hey, let's call ourselves the league.

1:13:03

So now, you know, they they find work around, so we have to eliminate the possibility of that and make it fair for everyone.

1:13:08

Yeah, thank you.

1:13:10

So and as a follow-up with that, we're in the process now.

1:13:14

You uh uh we approve moving forward with the park master plan, and as part of that, we're looking at how we operate as the entire department and as a system, and looking at the uh the golf uh system to see how it is working seeing benchmark against other communities, see how those things are being done.

1:13:29

So, like Jesse mentioned, it's not common in some other communities with public golf courses.

1:13:34

So we're gonna make sure that we're aligning and providing something that's going to be consistent to give everyone equal access and equity to the courses.

1:13:40

So that'll be part of what we're doing when we kick off the park master plan planning process as well.

1:13:45

Yeah, well, thank you very much.

1:13:47

I both have you had pressure appreciate your leadership.

1:13:50

Um, as the courses get better and better, the problem's gonna get worse and worse.

1:13:54

I guess a lot of people want to play them, so that's a good problem to have.

1:13:57

And I do appreciate everything you do for the golf system.

1:14:01

Golf is a very important uh activity for our city.

1:14:04

Um, you know, the country clubs get the the big dogs play there, but uh, you know, the middle managers and and the and the people who really work and make the city go like to play golf, and uh and it's important for them to have a nice golf course to play, and and we do, and we're getting even better.

1:14:22

So thank you.

1:14:22

Sure.

1:14:23

And just that's a point of reference as well.

1:14:25

Like you mentioned, it's a good problem to have.

1:14:27

And just and I meeting and benchmarking from last year to this year on our revenue.

1:14:31

We're 500,000 in the plus comparative revenue from last year to this year.

1:14:36

So we're definitely moving in the right direction.

1:14:38

We just got to see how we balance it out so that we can make sure we continue to grow and meet new customers that come in as well.

1:14:44

Yeah, well, thank you.

1:14:45

I appreciate that.

1:14:46

Good job.

1:14:47

All right, thank you both.

1:14:48

Um we have more council members that want to have questions or comments.

1:14:53

Council member Hohyson.

1:14:55

Thank you, Mayor.

1:14:55

Uh, just more of a comment.

1:14:57

First, thank you guys.

1:15:00

Um, uh, from what I hear, the golf, you know, the golf system here is just thriving, and a lot of the improvements that you've made and suggested and that we've made.

1:15:07

Um, it seems to really be paying off.

1:15:10

Uh, this is something that I have heard from uh some of my friends as well.

1:15:14

Not necessarily my constituents, but um a lot of the friends that I have that do play golf.

1:15:19

So it sounds like we have some options out there, but I just wanted to um back up that I've kind of heard the same thing from uh several people out in the community that the vice mayor has as well.

1:15:30

Sure.

1:15:31

Councilmember Ballard.

1:15:33

Thank you, Mayor.

1:15:34

Also, big thank you.

1:15:35

That's super awesome.

1:15:36

We hear that the numbers are even better than last year, I guess, unless you're trying to get a tea time.

1:15:41

Um two quick questions.

1:15:43

Is it typically only techs that we're having?

1:15:46

Okay.

1:15:46

No, it would text and Auburn are the probably the the two that are most affected, but it's all four.

1:15:53

Okay, and also what do some other cities do?

1:15:57

I mean, I know we have the new software coming, which hopefully will be helpful, but it's there something that somebody else is doing.

1:16:04

Yeah, I mean, typically there would be the way most common I've seen each course would have maybe a men's league, a ladies league, a couples league, and a seniors league.

1:16:14

One day a week, it's ran by the club.

1:16:16

The club blocks off the two times.

1:16:18

You come through us to to be a part of that.

1:16:20

Um, and that's it.

1:16:21

That's the only leagues that they have.

1:16:23

Maybe some corporate leagues in the afternoon, some companies that want, but typically those are in the afternoons, not quite as high demand.

1:16:29

Um, but it's it's there's not so many leagues that are ran by individuals where we just block the sheet and then they they have full control.

1:16:38

It's very uncommon.

1:16:41

Thank you.

1:16:42

Councilmember Glasscock.

1:16:44

Thank you.

1:16:45

Uh someone who represents both Tex and Auburn.

1:16:47

I hear this pretty often, so I just wanted to echo uh the vice mayor's comments.

1:16:53

Thank you both.

1:16:55

Uh one last thing.

1:16:56

In those meet minutes, people can look at these minutes, but I just wanted to highlight that over 600 participants are already enrolled in 2025, surpassing last year for the first T program, which is for our young youth in our community to learn golf and to play.

1:17:13

Uh, and it is a partnership with Boys and Girls Club.

1:17:16

So thank you for doing uh that and continuing that collaboration, encouraging our young people to stay active and love the sport.

1:17:24

So thank you both.

1:17:26

If I could add to that real quick, we had a total this year.

1:17:29

We're gonna have a total of around 1,700 juniors coming through our programming.

1:17:32

So the numbers you're seeing are just for first E, but we have several other programs.

1:17:36

First E is fantastic, they're all fantastic, but we're steadily trying to increase those numbers.

1:17:40

So thank you, Jesse.

1:17:42

I'll speak again.

1:17:43

Vice Mayor Johnston.

1:17:45

Thank you, Mayor, and I want to echo that too.

1:17:48

And your inclusion exclusion of women, you have lots of programs to get women playing golf, youth playing golf.

1:17:54

You're just you're just trying to make it wider and more attractive and better for everybody.

1:17:59

So I do really appreciate that.

1:18:00

That's the future of golf.

1:18:02

So thank you.

1:18:04

Thank you both.

1:18:05

I see no more questions from the council.

1:18:08

We will open it up for public comment.

1:18:12

I see none.

1:18:14

We'll bring it back to the bench.

1:18:16

Vice Mayor Johnston.

1:18:17

I'd like to make a motion to approve item 5A.

1:18:22

Second.

1:18:23

Motion and a second.

1:18:24

Any further discussion?

1:18:26

I see none.

1:18:27

Madam Clerk, please open the roll.

1:18:35

Motion passes 70.

1:18:37

Madam Clerk, please call the next item.

1:18:41

Board of Bids and Contracts dated October 6th, 2025.

1:18:45

Morning.

1:18:45

Mayor, City Council, Josh Lauber, Department of Finance, Board of Bids and Contracts convened yesterday, October 6, 2025, for the following items.

1:18:53

For engineering, we have the BNR Plant 1 odor control and SCADA improvements for Donlinger Wildcat BNR Project Phase 1 LLC for 12 million 234,349, subject to your approval of the engineers estimate and budget authorization today.

1:19:11

We have the water distribution system sanitary sewer phase one and six of the water main extension to serve courtyards at Jacobs Farm addition for McCullough Excavation Incorporated for an aggregate bid total of 2,211,440.

1:19:27

We have the OJ Watson Park Concession Building Landscape Improvements for Roston Construction LLC for 235,550.

1:19:37

We have the 15th Street Bridge over the Wichita Drainage Canal for Wildcat Construction Company Incorporated for an aggregate bid total of $2,699,306 and 50 cents.

1:19:49

We have the 2025 Dirt Street Paving Phase One for Pearson Construction LLC for an aggregate bid total of 1,024 887.15 cents.

1:20:01

We have the hydraulic bridge deck repair over Middle Fork Chisholm Creek for Wildcat Construction Company Incorporated for 179,680.

1:20:12

We have the engine repair for a 2014 Gillock bus for Cummins Incorporated for an aggregate bid total of $57,149.32.

1:20:23

We have the life safety systems test and inspection for Sandifer Engineering Controls Incorporated for an estimated annual cost of $19,265 per year.

1:20:34

We have the Matt Mop TAL and Fender Cover Rental for Aramark Uniform and Career Apparel Group Incorporated doing business as Vestus Uniform and Workplace Solutions for estimated $11,392 and 70 cents per year.

1:20:50

We have the paper products, toilet tissue towels, and miscellaneous paper products for LAFT Williams and Associates Incorporated, Brady Industries of Kansas, Sam Tell and Sun Incorporated, and Imperial Bag and Paper Company LLC for the groups listed for one year before one year options to renew.

1:21:08

We have the SCADA telemetry and programming upgrade for Gilbert Mosley and North Industrial Corridor Remediation System for Decker Electric Incorporated for an aggregate bid total of $767,250.

1:21:23

We have the irrigation improvement project at McDonald Golf Course for United Golf LLC for an aggregate bid total of $1,727,198.

1:21:34

We have the server hardware extension maintenance for Airport for PPT Holdings LLC for $56,930 and 28 cents.

1:21:44

We had the Kubota Tractor with Terrain Master Flail Mower for McCola Enterprises Incorporated doing business with Wichita Tractor Company for $132,246.59.

1:21:56

We have the special waste disposal facility change order for waste connections of Kansas Incorporated for the amended amounts listed.

1:22:05

We have the installation of water utility service lines change order for utility maintenance contractors LLC for the amended amount of $1,553,400.

1:22:17

We have the WPD Uniform and Uniform Equipment Accessories Management Program Change Order for Gauls LLC for an amended annual usage of $993,993.30.

1:22:29

I did not make that up.

1:22:31

It'd be Wichita Fire Department Uniform and Uniform Equipment Accessories Management Program Change order for Galls LLC for an amended estimated usage of $77,168.86.

1:22:45

We have the Rock Salt for Snow and Ice Control Change Order for Hutchison Salt Company for an amended annual usage of $261,300.

1:22:55

We have the telescoping steel sign post systems change order for center line supply for an amended amount of $40,384.50.

1:23:04

And we have the procurement software, software as a service change order for Unisolutions Incorporated for Implation in four years listed as an aggregate bid total of $442,387.

1:23:17

For Airport, we have the window cleaning services airport change order for EH Technical Solutions Incorporated for an amended estimated usage of $38,670 and four cents.

1:23:29

This is how to become a vendor with the city.

1:23:33

This is our purchasing calendar of small business resource partner events that the city's hosting or participating in.

1:23:39

And these are open public opportunities out on the street today.

1:23:42

And I'd be happy to try to answer your questions and I recommend your approval today.

1:23:47

Thank you, Josh.

1:23:48

Council Member Tuttle.

1:23:50

Thank you.

1:23:50

Great Josh job, Josh.

1:23:52

This is what happens when we have a fifth Tuesday, right?

1:23:54

This is the longest one I've ever seen.

1:23:56

I was very close.

1:23:57

It's way back, but could you possibly go to slide seven?

1:24:00

I'm sure I might have looked at it wrong, but I just wanted to check.

1:24:04

Thank you.

1:24:06

It looks like Snodgrass and Sons Construction Company was the low bid.

1:24:12

Is that a typo?

1:24:14

Am I looking?

1:24:15

Oh, oh, I okay.

1:24:16

Sorry, I inverted the numbers.

1:24:17

My bad.

1:24:17

Thank you so much.

1:24:19

Thank you.

1:24:19

There was a lot to absorb.

1:24:20

Thank you.

1:24:21

I apologize.

1:24:23

Can you go back to slide five, please?

1:24:26

Um, we'll be talking about this item as new business item number 13.

1:24:31

Uh again.

1:24:33

This was really to highlight the BNR um project.

1:24:39

Can you tell us?

1:24:40

Is this was this estimated to be 12.2 million?

1:24:44

I think the engineer's estimate was exceeded, so I need to defer to public works.

1:24:57

Uh good morning, Mary Council members Gary Jansen Public Works and Utilities.

1:25:01

I will cover this in the item here in a little bit, but the uh R estimate was 11 million dollars.

1:25:08

And you'll talk about it during number 13, or do you want to share why it was higher?

1:25:15

Uh well that's up to you.

1:25:16

I can either share it twice or I can talk about it later.

1:25:19

Just so that the audience understands that this item was on the consent agenda, and I moved it to new business so that folks would understand that the bionutrient plant um removal plant had an adjustment.

1:25:35

And again, can you just explain it was initially the estimate was 11 million?

1:25:39

Why is it now 12.2 million?

1:25:42

I think there's probably several factors that led to this.

1:25:45

Um there's a lot going on in the market right now for contractors, especially the contractors that would do this type of work.

1:25:51

Um our owners were up reached out in addition to you know how our projects are um posted uh to all vendors.

1:26:00

Uh there's other way that projects of our size, especially in the community of our size make it out there.

1:26:05

Our owners were up also reached out to some specific contractors to try to grow our interest.

1:26:11

I think there's a lot going on again with contractors right now that probably led to the Don Lear Wildcat team.

1:26:18

I think probably everybody's aware is doing the work for all of the work at plant two for the BNR improvements.

1:26:24

Um this is the last project as part of the BNR program to be bid.

1:26:29

Um we certainly expected a bid from them, uh, but there's just some uh unique work with this facility.

1:26:36

Uh there's some really close quarters to work with working around an operating plant, just as we are doing it at uh plant two with the main part of the project really makes it hard to estimate costs.

1:26:48

So uh we will work with the contractor once construction is underway, as we've done with the other packages to see if there's any way to value engineer the cost down.

1:26:58

Thank you, Gary.

1:26:59

Councilmember Hoheisel.

1:27:01

Thank you, Mayor.

1:27:02

Um, just one additional point.

1:27:05

Uh we have pretty much a hard um budget of $387 million on this overall project.

1:27:12

Uh this does not bump that up, right?

1:27:14

Correct, thank you.

1:27:15

And I should have mentioned that, and I'll I'll cover that again later too.

1:27:18

This is the difference in cost here is included within that overall original budget, yes.

1:27:24

Okay, so yeah, I just wanted to make sure the public knew that as well.

1:27:27

It's yeah, moving around money within the project that we have allocated.

1:27:32

Correct.

1:27:32

All right, and I'll mention this later as well.

1:27:35

Looking forward to that odor control being complete.

1:27:37

We are too.

1:27:38

Thank you.

1:27:39

Thank you.

1:27:39

Councilmember Glascott.

1:27:41

Thank you, Mayor.

1:27:42

Two questions.

1:27:43

I know that we're not set to go over budget right now.

1:27:45

Is there any expectation that we'll go above the 387?

1:27:50

Um I hope not.

1:27:54

Uh we still have uh, like I said, this is the last project within the overall program to bid.

1:28:01

Um we do still have some capacity within the overall project, even after this, based on what we've done with some value engineering in the original packages, especially the biggest parts of it, packages two and three.

1:28:15

Uh, it's possible looking ahead because of the amount of work that we've got left, we could start pushing up against that budget at some point in time.

1:28:23

We do have a contingency budget in place that very similar to what we've done with the water treatment plant through the course of building the new plant there in case there were um any additional work that might come up above and beyond that budget.

1:28:37

We're keeping a close eye on it.

1:28:39

I meet with staff regularly.

1:28:40

Last we looked at was just yesterday, and right now we're still in a good place.

1:28:44

Okay, we're still in your place right now.

1:28:46

We are okay.

1:28:47

Uh, this would probably a question maybe for Jennifer and legal.

1:28:50

So because we normally approve consent agenda items prior to approving bids.

1:28:56

This would be approving this recommendation for a bid, but then this item is later on the agenda, but this is to approve the overestimate bid.

1:29:08

So would this nullify by approving this bid?

1:29:10

Would this nullify the or item 13?

1:29:14

I'm Josh, can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think we are okay to do it in this order.

1:29:18

Yeah.

1:29:19

Yeah, you're you're being requested to approve the engineer's estimate and budget authorization, and you're absolutely right.

1:29:25

The consent agenda usually is presented beforehand.

1:29:28

Um if you go about this route, you could have conceptually an instance where you approve the engineers new engineers estimate and budget authorization in the project, and you could deny the new business agenda item in theory.

1:29:43

Thank you.

1:29:46

Thank you, Gary.

1:29:47

Uh two more questions.

1:29:48

Uh slide number 14.

1:29:51

Thank you, Gary.

1:29:53

This is about paper products.

1:29:55

I just wanted to know.

1:30:00

Um, I know that you've been trying very hard and encouraging small businesses to become vendors for the city of Wichita so that they know that there's opportunities for them to bid.

1:30:06

Um, are any of these small businesses?

1:30:09

Um I don't know on top of my head if they're new, they're small businesses.

1:30:12

I will tell you one of them is new specifically that we have not encountered before.

1:30:17

Um and then small business as a whole is a discussion.

1:30:19

We're working with the city manager's office to revamp the small business program.

1:30:23

Um in any time the city manager's office is really great about this, they'll forward vendors to us.

1:30:28

Um, and the feedback that we've had so far is I'm surprised how easy it is to bid with the city.

1:30:34

So that's a really big compliment for us.

1:30:35

I appreciate it.

1:30:37

Good job to your team.

1:30:38

I know that one of the slides shows when you have those sessions, and we really encourage people to check that page out so that they can know how to become a vendor.

1:30:49

And last but not least, slide number 16, since we just talked about golf.

1:30:53

Um, this looks like we're under budget.

1:30:55

I think we budgeted two million dollars for this.

1:30:58

Is this correct?

1:30:59

Don't know on the budget estimate.

1:31:02

Uh I'm getting a correct from our director of golf.

1:31:05

Which again, I wanted to highlight this because it is under budget, and great job to Jesse and the team in trying to get us a bid that is under budget but still provides that great quality.

1:31:15

So thank you very much for that hard work.

1:31:18

With that, I see no one else correct, Councilmember Glasscock.

1:31:23

You're still on the board.

1:31:26

I see no one else on the board.

1:31:28

With that, I will move to approve the board of bids and contracts.

1:31:32

Second.

1:31:33

Motion and the second, any further discussion.

1:31:36

I see none.

1:31:37

Madam Clerk, please open the roll.

1:31:41

Motion passes 7-0.

1:31:43

Madam Clerk, please call the next item.

1:31:48

Starlight Drive-in loan extension.

1:31:56

Good morning, Mayor and City Council.

1:31:58

Becca Johnson, Office of Community Services for the record.

1:32:01

On December 18th, 2018, the City Council approved a 200,000 loan to Starlight LLC, the operator of Starlight Drive-In for the acquisition of two digital projectors and other related equipment and installation costs.

1:32:14

The loan was amortized over five years with interest only one percent for the first four years and then monthly repayment in year five.

1:32:21

The funds were appropriated out of the funds allocated to District 3 from the sale of the city-owned Hyatt Regency Hotel in Wichita.

1:32:28

On December 27th, 2022, Blake Smith, the operator of Starlight, requested and received an extension of the loan agreement for two years due to the financial hardship of COVID and a slow industry recovery.

1:32:39

On February 4th, 2025, the City Council approved an amendment to the promissory note to restructure Starlight's loan at Mr.

1:32:45

Smith's request.

1:32:46

Mr.

1:32:47

Smith made a $50,000 payment following the restructuring and agreed to repayment of the balance of $150,000 beginning July 1st, 2025, with equal monthly installments of 200 $2,147.33 cents, which includes the amortization at 1% through June of 2031.

1:33:06

One payment was made in August 2025, reducing the outstanding balance to 147,977 and 67 cents.

1:33:15

Thus far, $64,147.40 in proceeds, including $52,022.33 cents in principal and $12,125 and seven cents in interest have been recorded as a program income to the district three Hyatt project and are available to be reallocated.

1:33:35

Recently, Mr.

1:33:36

Smith has requested an extension of the loan agreement for six months due to the financial hardship of the summer 2025 storm damage.

1:33:46

We're proposing an extension.

1:33:47

Starlight has requested a six-month moratorium on principal and interest payments.

1:33:51

A new amortization model has been developed, including a six-month moratorium on principal and interest payments.

1:33:56

The borrower will begin making monthly payments of the $2,147.33 cents amount, which includes that 1% in February 2026 with the final payment expected in December of 2031.

1:34:16

It is recommended that city council approve the contract amendment and authorize unnecessary signatures.

1:34:21

That I'll stand for any questions.

1:34:23

Thank you, Becca.

1:34:24

Councilmember Glasco.

1:34:26

Thank you, Becca, for presenting.

1:34:28

Is there any guarantee that he's not going to come back for another extension?

1:34:32

You could probably always make an argument that there's financial hardships or something happens.

1:34:38

I know he's done that twice so far.

1:34:40

Is there anything stopping him from doing it a third time?

1:34:44

There is nothing stopping him from doing that, no.

1:34:50

Councilmember Hoheisel.

1:34:53

Uh this is more in reply to Councilmember Glascock.

1:34:56

Um I intend for this to be the last.

1:35:02

Becca, do you know by any chance um how business is going at Starlight Drive in pre-COVID versus now in 2025?

1:35:10

Yeah, I don't have that information, and I don't believe Mr.

1:35:14

Smith is with us.

1:35:14

He's in Tulsa.

1:35:19

Maybe Councilmember Hoheisel has had conversations with Mr.

1:35:23

Smith.

1:35:24

Uh thank you, Mayor.

1:35:25

Yes, um, I believe last time I talked, it was eighty eighty to eighty-five percent um from what it was pre-COVID, but that was building it back up after a couple of years of um slow revenues.

1:35:41

Um it's just a lack of movies out there right now, streaming processes coming up.

1:35:47

Um so this is similar to a lot of theaters, a lot of the obstacles a lot of theaters out there are facing.

1:35:55

And Councilmember Hoheisel, this is obviously in your district.

1:35:58

Um, I know that there has been a lot of community interest in trying to save the Starlight.

1:36:04

Uh, can you share a bit of why uh the Hyatt dollars went to Starlight Drive-in initially and why obviously in June of 2025 we had this major storm, what that caused to Starlight Drive In?

1:36:18

Uh yeah, thank you.

1:36:19

Um before I was on council, and the city manager probably has more details than I do.

1:36:24

Uh the drive-in got rezoned from entertainment to I believe general, and there was a push by the owner at that time who had been gifted the drive-in um to actually sell it.

1:36:40

Um there were some issues around there.

1:36:42

Um, there was a group that really got together about wanting to uh save the drive-in because it is a South Wichita treasure and landmark.

1:36:50

Um the council member at that time agreed with the new owner Blake to give him a $200,000 loan from the Hyatt funds at the time.

1:37:02

And the scheduled repayment again, this was obviously before COVID.

1:37:06

Um 23 came up, and that was after COVID, and you saw the declining numbers.

1:37:13

Again, they were working their way back up.

1:37:15

Um, so we did extend it.

1:37:18

And um, we always look for opportunities to help protect uh the treasures that we have in our community.

1:37:25

Thank you, Councilmember Hoheisel.

1:37:27

I know that you also serve on the Cowtown Board.

1:37:30

Um, and so I just wanted to make sure that um people understood this portion, which is often the city doesn't have just money to loan people.

1:37:39

This was a very special circumstance when the city of Wichita sold the Hyatt Hotel.

1:37:45

So each council member or each district received dollars.

1:37:49

Uh so this question really goes back to the city manager.

1:37:52

Can you share if there are any funds left?

1:37:55

And if so, in which districts are there funds remaining from the sale of the Hyatt.

1:38:01

Mayor, I have to go back and look.

1:38:03

We um provided that information to the council.

1:38:06

I think about six months ago.

1:38:08

Um, the only changes that I can think of at this point would be in in the district three because of this uh arrangement.

1:38:16

Uh I'd have to go back.

1:38:17

Um most of the funds, I think uh all the funds are gone in just district one, or do you still have community funds?

1:38:27

Um the only funds we have are in the rotation and propel.

1:38:32

That's right.

1:38:33

And then um uh district two spent all their funds, district three, of course, has these funds, and the idea with the loan is if it was successful, it would continue to generate additional funding for future community initiatives, and that's the reason that the council member created that uh uh loan the way he did.

1:38:52

Um District 4 spent all their funds, uh District 5 spent all of their funds, and as did District 6.

1:39:02

So I think it's really one in three that have some flexibility and not many, not much.

1:39:08

Thank you, city manager.

1:39:09

Again, I wanted to get that on the record because I know that this is a special circumstance uh in which the city had some dollars allocated to the six council members and their districts, and so there are still some funds left in district one and district three, but it's very rare because again, of the sale of the Hyatt.

1:39:29

Right.

1:39:30

And just a reminder um at that time ten million dollars was put into street maintenance uh by the council, and each district had one million dollars allocated.

1:39:42

Thank you, city manager, councilmember Glascock.

1:39:45

Thank you.

1:39:45

One last question there is a personal guarantee from the owner, so if they were to default on the payments, it would be back on him.

1:39:54

Correct.

1:39:55

Thank you.

1:39:56

I see no further questions for staff.

1:40:00

We'll open it up for public comment.

1:40:03

I see no one from the public who would like to speak.

1:40:06

We'll bring it back to the bench.

1:40:08

This resides in Councilmember Hohaizels district.

1:40:11

Oh, we have comments.

1:40:12

Vice Mayor Johnston.

1:40:14

Thank you, Mayor.

1:40:15

I also echo Councilman Glasscock's uh I really do appreciate the personal guarantee on contracts with the city.

1:40:24

I think I think that should be a standing practice for the city, so I do appreciate that.

1:40:30

So thank you.

1:40:32

Councilmember Glascom.

1:40:34

Thank you, Mayor.

1:40:35

Um I was hard pressed to support this today, but given a personal guarantee and given um Councilman Hoheisel's comments about no intention of bringing this back up.

1:40:47

Um I will be supportive of this today.

1:40:49

I actually love the loan program idea and think district three uh was very successful in that.

1:40:54

Um I'm appreciative of that.

1:40:56

The one percent interest rate is very generous.

1:40:59

Um but I hope that this will be payback that the Starlight is successful.

1:41:03

Um I will likely not support if it comes back for another extension because I want to make sure that the owner is being respectful of taxpayer dollars that he's been given in this unique style program.

1:41:15

But I do love the loan program idea and we'll be supportive of this today.

1:41:19

Councilmember Hoheisel.

1:41:21

Thank you, Mayor.

1:41:22

Um, no singing the tune this time around.

1:41:25

Um I will go ahead and just uh make this motion.

1:41:28

I move that the city council approve the contract amendment and authorize the necessary signatures.

1:41:33

Second.

1:41:34

Motion and a second, any further discussion.

1:41:37

I see none.

1:41:38

Madam Clerk, please open the roll.

1:41:43

Motion passes 70.

1:41:45

Madam Clerk, please call the next item.

1:41:49

Agreement and funding for biennial bridge inspections, rehabilitation and repair.

1:42:02

Good morning, Mayor, City Council members, Paul Gunzelman, Public Works and Utilities for the record.

1:42:08

The item before you is an agreement and funding for biannual bridge inspections, rehabilitation and repair.

1:42:16

There are over 280 structures slash bridges within the city of Wichita.

1:42:23

And in September of 2023, the City Council approved an agreement with trans systems to provide bridge inspection services for 2023 with the option to renew in 2025.

1:42:34

The Federal Highway Administration classifies structures and bridges that span 20 feet in length or more as part of the National Bridge Inventory.

1:42:43

And the FHWA and KDOT require structural inventory of all NBI bridges maintained by the city for public safety.

1:42:53

These inspections are required on a biannual basis to maintain eligibility for federal funding and for bridge repair and replacement projects.

1:43:04

Bridge inspection reports, aid in the priorization of projects for maintenance and replacement programs, and the capital improvement program includes annual funding for bridge rehabilitation and repair as needed, and typically recommended by the bridge inspection program.

1:43:43

As noted during the board of bids, this is an example of one of the projects, uh hydraulic north of 37th Street for deck repair.

1:43:53

And 37th Street over the Little Arkansas River is uh scheduled for repair in 2025, utilized in 2025 funding for railing repairs.

1:44:06

The amadon slash Wilmore Bridge over the MS Mitchell floodway has also been identified for repairs.

1:44:14

Deterioration of joints at both ends of the bridge are need to be addressed.

1:44:21

And the Oliver Bridge over Gypsum Creek.

1:44:24

During summer rain events, the slope protection underneath the bridge had eroded.

1:44:29

An inspection completed by trans systems determined that the bridge is not in danger.

1:44:34

However, the slope protection slash bank stabilization needs to be replaced.

1:44:40

A progressive design build project delivery will allow for accelerated repair schedule and selection of the design build team and associated contract will return to the city council on a future date.

1:45:00

While completing the 2023 bridge inspections, trans systems demonstrated an adept approach to the project with expertise and bridge inspections and assigned appropriate staff to complete tasks and reports in a timely manner.

1:45:12

Staff is recommending selecting selecting the option to renew the contract in 2025 for the NBI biannual bridge inspection and include inspection of non-MBI structures, railroad corridor, retaining T walls sections as well as all pedestrian bridges.

1:45:30

A renewal agreement has been prepared for this work.

1:45:36

The cost of the 2025 through 2026 bridge inspection agreement is $234,201.

1:45:44

The 2026 through 2035 adopted capital improvement program includes $325,000 in general obligation bond funding and ongoing projects for bridge inspections.

1:45:56

The 2026 through 2035 adopted CIP also includes $1 million in ongoing projects and $1 million in 2026 for rehabilitation and repair for a total of both funded by total of $2 million, both funded by local sales tax.

1:46:14

Staff recommends initiating the full amounts of all three projects at this time.

1:46:32

Adopt the resolutions and authorize the necessary signatures, and I will stand for questions.

1:46:38

Thank you, Paul.

1:46:40

I see no one from the council except for I have one quick question.

1:46:45

I know that we launched the drones as first responders pilot program with WPD and it's on top of a Wichita fire station.

1:46:54

I wanted to know if we have considered drones for bridge inspections.

1:47:00

That is something that other major cities have done.

1:47:03

And so I wanted to know if that is something that's being considered.

1:47:06

Well, I would have to reach out to trans systems or GFT to see if they utilize any of that at this time while they do the bridge inspections.

1:47:14

I don't know that answer.

1:47:16

I would be curious in that collaboration.

1:47:20

Again, in some major cities, they do use the drones for multiple uses, including helping with bridge inspections and public works in general.

1:47:28

So that would be another way to utilize uh technology.

1:47:32

Okay.

1:47:38

Thank you, Paul.

1:47:39

I see no further questions.

1:47:40

We'll open it up for public comment.

1:47:44

I see none.

1:47:45

We'll bring it back to the bench.

1:47:48

I will move that the city council approve the agreement, budgets, use the progressive design build project delivery and RFQ criteria, adopt the resolutions and authorize the necessary signatures.

1:48:00

Second.

1:48:01

Motion and a second.

1:48:02

Any further discussion?

1:48:03

I see none.

1:48:04

Madam Clerk, please open the roll.

1:48:08

Motion passes 7-0.

1:48:10

Madam Clerk, please call the next item.

1:48:15

Property and evidence rounds and porter facility improvements.

1:48:31

Morning, Mayor, City Council.

1:48:33

Jason Cooley, Captain with the Wichita Police Department.

1:48:37

This is the property and evidence facility improvements additional funding.

1:48:43

The rounds and Porter Building has long been the primary facility for the Wichita Police Department property and evidence operations.

1:48:51

The adopted 25 to 34 CIP included just over 1.2 million dollars in general obligation bond funding, and that was initiated on June 10th of this year, 2025.

1:49:07

Since then, we have done some uh preliminary uh meetings, and uh some of the initial quotes uh have gone out and come back.

1:49:16

Um, that has indicated there's a need for additional funding.

1:49:19

I put uh two examples here of just uh of the elevator repair, it hasn't come back, but it's projected to be over the initial quote that we thought, and then the IT upgrades have come back uh already uh over the original budget.

1:49:38

In the adopted 2015 to 24 CIP, it included three million dollars in geo funding to make operational uh facility improvements.

1:49:49

That project was just recently closed as it was finished.

1:49:52

Uh the finance department went through and closed uh some of the latest CIP uh projects that was closed in 2025.

1:50:00

That was closed in 2025.

1:50:01

There was a remaining of 288,014 left in that fund originally for property and evidence.

1:50:32

Thank you, Captain Cooley.

1:50:34

Councilmember Hoheisel.

1:50:35

Thank you, Mayor, and thank you, Captain.

1:50:38

This was quite a bit of work when we got the initial audit back a couple of years ago.

1:50:43

Could you just detail some of the changes that we have made so far, some of the improvements that we have done within the budget?

1:50:50

I remember there was a decent sized list there.

1:50:54

Yeah, so the uh lab uh received a significant.

1:50:58

I assume you're talking about the original three million.

1:51:00

Yes, yeah.

1:51:01

So the lab received a significant overhaul, updated it, uh brought it up to uh accreditation standards.

1:51:09

Um there has been uh some uh property and evidence.

1:51:15

I use those two terms separately as they're kind of divided inside the facility, but they they operate as one.

1:51:22

Uh there's been some property and evidence improvements, but the bulk of that was to bring uh that portion of the lab uh up to code in the building and through accreditations.

1:51:33

Okay, thank you, sir.

1:51:34

Yep.

1:51:36

Thank you, Captain Cooley.

1:51:38

Any further questions?

1:51:40

I see none.

1:51:41

We'll open it up for public comment.

1:51:44

I see none.

1:51:45

We'll bring it back to the bench.

1:51:47

This resides in council member Ballard's district if she would like.

1:51:58

Thank you.

1:51:59

Um I move to take a recommended action, approve the project budget, adopt the bonding resolution, and authorize an SS groups.

1:52:06

Second.

1:52:07

Motion and a second.

1:52:08

Any further discussion?

1:52:09

I see none.

1:52:10

Madam Clerk, please open the roll.

1:52:15

Motion passes 70.

1:52:17

Madam Clerk, please call the next item.

1:52:20

Police protective equipment project.

1:52:25

Morning again, Mayor, Council.

1:52:27

Uh, this is the uh police protective equipment from the Capital Improvement Projects.

1:52:34

Uh the Wichita Police Department uh uses a variety of equipment to protect staff.

1:52:39

That includes uh body armor, helmets, uh shields, breaking breaching devices, just to name a few.

1:52:46

Additionally, the department is using uh cell phones as a way to communicate internally and externally, along with voice and photography evidence collection.

1:52:56

Most police equipment carries a five-year lifespan either due to wear and tear or uh warranty uh limitations uh like uh our um vest carry a five-year warranty on them.

1:53:13

Uh WPD has identified an immediate shortage in current inventory for emergency services to address future emergency equipment needs.

1:53:23

A systematic systematically staff developed a replacement plan and funding was incorporated in the capital improvement program.

1:53:31

The previously adopted CIP budget included 200,000 in general obligation bonds.

1:53:38

The adopted 26 to 35 CIP included an additional 900,000 in the ongoing project.

1:53:50

That will stand for questions.

1:53:52

Thank you, Captain Cooley.

1:53:54

Any questions for staff?

1:53:57

I see none.

1:53:58

We'll open it up for public comment.

1:54:02

I see none.

1:54:02

I'll bring it back to the bench.

1:54:04

Um, I just wanted to say thank you to both our police department and fire department uh for making sure that the community stays safe, but also that they themselves are safe with equipment.

1:54:16

Um we saw it firsthand last week when we went to fire training and the equipment that we were putting on protected us from the fire.

1:54:27

And so I know that for the police department, same thing.

1:54:30

Your protective equipment is critical to your safety, but also providing safety for our community.

1:54:36

So I will be very supportive of this, and so I will move that the city council approve the initiation of additional funds and authorized and necessary signatures.

1:54:44

Second.

1:54:45

Motion and a second, any further discussion.

1:54:48

I see none.

1:54:48

Madam Clerk, please open the roll.

1:54:52

Motion passes 70.

1:54:54

Madam Clerk, please call the next item.

1:54:56

Authorization of the second five-year taxes and exemption for Air Capital Flight Line LLC.

1:55:06

Honorable Mayor, members of council, Troy Anderson, assistant city manager.

1:55:11

So a little bit of background.

1:55:13

Back in November of 2018, City Council approved a letter of intent.

1:55:19

That letter of intent was for the issuance of industrial revenue bonds and an amount not to exceed 18 million dollars.

1:55:27

It allowed for the construction of a approximately 144,000 square foot manufacturing facility.

1:55:34

The bond issue enabled air capital flight line to finance the cost of acquiring the real estate, constructing and ultimately equipping the project.

1:55:44

In addition to that, the IRB set forth approval of a 10-year 100% property tax abatement with a five-year review.

1:55:52

Subsequently, uh ACFL, air capital flight line, subleased to spirit aero systems.

1:55:58

You'll hear me refer to them as Spirit Throughout.

1:56:01

As part of that arrangement and as part of the 10-year property tax abatement, the commitment at that time was to create and maintain 320 full-time jobs with an annual average wage of about 54,500.

1:56:20

About the same time there was another project that was going on, what's referred to historically as project eclipse.

1:56:28

This job creation, the additional 320 jobs was supposed to be above and beyond the hundred, or excuse me, the thousand jobs that were committed to as part of the project eclipse.

1:56:40

So it gets a little nuanced here, but hopefully I'll try to put this in order a little bit.

1:56:48

So when we did project eclipse, the base employment was 10,940 jobs.

1:56:53

So if you add the thousand jobs required by project eclipse, your base employment for the ACFL spirit review was 11,940.

1:57:06

So therefore the target employment that they were trying to reach at the end of the five-year period and maintain throughout the process was 12,260 jobs.

1:57:16

You can kind of see the math there on the screen.

1:57:29

After 2019, you see the actuals for 2020, 21, 22, 23, 24.

1:57:38

You'll see the average base wages.

1:57:40

You'll see the percentage of the wages above target.

1:57:45

Specifically, I'll point out at this point in time that spirit outperformed the average base wage of 54,000 by more than 138% in each of the five years by more than 144% in 2023, and in 2024, the base wage was 154% above the target wage.

1:58:10

So as you can see, they did not meet the job requirement.

1:58:15

However, there's a lot of extenuating circumstances.

1:58:22

But under the economic development guidelines, it reads that the city may amend an incentive agreement to reduce the recipient's obligations regarding employment levels, wage requirements, or non-compliance penalties in the event of a federally declared disaster or economic downturn.

1:58:37

We're going to touch on that here in just a minute.

1:58:39

Talks about an economic downturn being evidenced by a significant decline, a five-point decline in the current economic conditions index from the point at which the incentive agreement was signed, and in such event the economic development centers may be continued if a majority of the compliance criteria are met, including capital investment, return on investment, and temporarily achieving job creation commitments.

1:59:03

Okay, so where we get into some of the numbers.

1:59:08

Under the current economic conditions index, in 2019, that index was 90.84.

1:59:16

In April of 2020, that dropped by 13 points to 77.79.

1:59:23

I'm showing the year over year as well as the annualized average for a couple of reasons.

1:59:30

But if you go back through the entire history of the economic condition index, year over year, a three-point adjustment is ginormous, right?

1:59:41

Usually year over year, the economic condition indexes don't fluctuate much more than one or two points.

1:59:48

Okay.

1:59:49

The year over year, as you can see, is a significant decline.

2:00:00

However, the economic conditions index don't necessarily paint the entire picture of what was going on in the aviation industry over the course of 2019 and into 2020.

2:00:08

More specifically, if you'll remember back between the period of March 2019 and December of 2020, the Boeing 737 max was grounded.

2:00:18

This had an adverse impact sort of downstream on product delivery and subsequently jobs.

2:00:25

So rather than just looking at the economic index, we also took a look at the aerospace index.

2:00:32

Year over year from April of 2019 to April of 2020, dropped 25 points.

2:00:38

And again, even more so across the annualized average for aerospace, dropped 23.81 points.

2:00:50

So throughout all of this, including a global pandemic between 2019 and 2020, which is also why you see a huge drop in employment numbers, particularly in 2019.

2:01:06

Since 2019, Spirit has continued to commit to growing and trying to achieve those job numbers.

2:01:24

120 more than the base employment of the 11940.

2:01:29

So we went back to Center for Economic Development Business Research and some of their cost benefit analyses, and we said, well, what if the job creation wasn't the 320 that was originally committed to as somewhat aspirant?

2:01:47

What if that was only 100 jobs that they had committed to?

2:01:51

If they had only committed to 100 jobs, the city's cost benefit analysis would have returned an 8.29 to 1.

2:01:59

County 3 to 1, state 8.66 to 1, and school district 1.47 to 1.

2:02:06

Again, far exceeding the one to one that we use for most other projects.

2:02:13

Looking forward, uh financial consideration air capital flight line or spirit or one of its subsidiaries agrees to pay the city's $2,500 annual IRB administration fee for the term of the bonds.

2:02:27

Legal has advised that approval of the second five-year tax exemptions entirely at the discretion of city council.

2:02:33

But with that being said, as we hope to have demonstrated here today, based on the capital investment made, $18 million, the return on investment, whether it be 100 jobs or 320 jobs, and temporarily achieving job creation commitments, it's recommended that the city council approve the second five-year 100% advalarum tax exemption.

2:02:54

And with that being said, I'll stand for questions.

2:02:57

We do have a representative from uh the tenant, Spirit, who would like to say a few words.

2:03:13

Good morning.

2:03:14

My name is Sam Sackett with Spirit Aero Systems.

2:03:17

Uh Mayor Wu, Council members, uh, just want to uh say thank you, first of all, for the support that you provide to our aerospace industry, not just our company, but our supply chain in this region and throughout the state, and for the advocacy that each of you have for our amazing men and women who do the real work every day of designing, building, and uh assembling uh major aircraft structures for the world's greatest uh commercial and defense customers.

2:03:45

So thank you uh on behalf of our company for again your advocacy for our industry.

2:03:50

Um I'm gonna turn it over uh to Damon Ward, who's our vice president and chief controller to walk you through a few slides and give you a little bit more of an update about where we are with some of our our data points against the IRB targets.

2:04:04

Thanks, Sam.

2:04:05

Mayor, City Council members, uh good morning.

2:04:08

I echo Sam's sentiments in the sense of thank you for your support and your advocacy for our industry.

2:04:14

I'll share just a few more comments uh to supplement Mr.

2:04:19

Anderson's comments on why do what was the investment and why is this important for our industry?

2:04:27

So uh the investment was for construction of the Northeast Manufacturing Facilities.

2:04:32

So for those of you who have had a chance to tour our campus, uh you will know that this is a very complex manufacturing environment, and it is really intended to support the production rates and expected volume increases, primarily on the 737 program, but also for the 767 program.

2:04:52

So I know that that all of us see the 767 flying around the skies of Wichita on a daily basis.

2:05:00

So those products are manufactured in this facility, as well as the 737, which is the highest volume aircraft that Boeing manufactures and sells.

2:05:09

So as Mr.

2:05:10

Anderson said, it was originally intended to be 144,000 square feet.

2:05:14

That was completed.

2:05:16

Additionally, we've extended that facility by an incremental 200 feet to support anticipated volume increases that we expect in the future.

2:05:27

So I mentioned it's a critical part of enabling us to meet those expected production volumes.

2:05:33

We could not produce on a sustained basis what we produce today and what we're expected to produce in the future without this facility.

2:05:45

So just a bit more color on some of the numbers, and we do have some updates from what Mr.

2:05:50

Anderson shared is you know, as you would expect, we're we're living in a real-time data environment.

2:05:56

So is as shared previously, we did exceed the target in 2019 by over 1,300 employees.

2:06:04

So we are running really hot.

2:06:05

We are producing at about 52 737s per month at the end of 2019.

2:06:12

But we know that we had a significant drop-off.

2:06:15

So you'll see the line, uh, which was really driven by two primary events.

2:06:19

We had the 737 grounding, but additionally COVID, which really reduced air traffic volumes by about 96%.

2:06:27

We all saw that in 2020.

2:06:29

So we did have a decline of about 5,500 heads.

2:06:33

Uh but you will see the the glide path and the gradual recovery from COVID.

2:06:39

And at the end of 2023, we had actually surpassed the committed target.

2:06:44

So that recovery did take a few years for the grounding to be resolved through the FAA and Boeing, and then COVID to have a bounce back of production volumes.

2:06:56

One thing that happened in 2024, so very early in 2024, we did have the door plug incident, uh, which the FAA then stepped in and basically suppressed production volumes.

2:07:09

So we did have a slight decrease through 2024.

2:07:14

Um what I will say is that we had a very significant effort to bring in new employees to help uh the recovery on that production volume as the airplug incident was was resolved.

2:07:29

Uh we were not able to fully fill all of those heads by the end of 2024, but we did have nearly 400 contractors with requisitions open to replace those contractors with full-time heads at the end of 2024.

2:07:45

As of, you know, just as a bit of an update from what Mr.

2:07:48

Anderson shared, as of September, um, we were above the committed target with our headcount.

2:07:55

So we were once again above the commitment, um, and we still do have requisitions to support anticipated rate increases from a future state perspective.

2:08:04

So just a bit of additional color on the economic impact and why this is important.

2:08:10

Uh, Mr.

2:08:10

Anderson has shared the the wage rate difference.

2:08:13

We you see that represented in the graphs and the charts, uh, but we had nearly 100 million dollars of incremental economic impact for the community as a result of the excess above the committed wage rate.

2:08:27

So very significant economic benefit uh which supports the the numbers that were shared from Mr.

2:08:33

Anderson.

2:08:34

But uh with that, I would be happy to answer any questions that the council may have.

2:08:41

Thank you, Damon, Sam, and Troy.

2:08:43

We'll begin with Councilmember Ballard.

2:08:45

Thank you, Mayor.

2:08:46

So are you continuing to hire?

2:08:49

We are continuing to hire, and what I would say is that if you pay attention to the public comments from both the Boeing company and Spirit, we do anticipate fairly significant rate increases, particularly with uh the FAA giving Boeing some more flexibility.

2:09:08

So we do anticipate rate increases in the future, and that will lead to continued hiring.

2:09:13

Awesome.

2:09:14

And my last question is what type of what kind of workers are you guys looking to hire at this point?

2:09:19

So most of the workers that we're looking to hire are mechanics that would support the touch labor on the 737 program.

2:09:28

We also do have uh, which is really primarily focused on this facility.

2:09:32

We are looking at um direct touch labor in other areas.

2:09:36

So, say for example the 777X and the 787 programs as well to support anticipated production volume increases on those programs in the future.

2:09:45

Thank you.

2:09:47

Damon, uh, just one last question, maybe it's more for Sam.

2:09:51

Uh, can you just give us an update regarding that uh acquisition uh by Boeing?

2:09:57

Where are we at?

2:09:58

Yeah, I I can touch on that, Mayor Wu.

2:10:01

So the the acquisition by Boeing, we know that this has been a fairly long saga.

2:10:06

We all appreciate that there's a tremendous degree of complexities uh related to the reintegration of spirit into the Boeing company.

2:10:17

Uh really what we're working through right now, and this is you know public.

2:10:21

We're still anticipating a fourth quarter close of the transaction.

2:10:24

Uh the last remaining steps really are the regulatory process, both with the foreign trade commission and the US as well as the European Commission in the EU.

2:10:34

So regulatory steps are the next hurdle to get over uh for the closing of that transaction.

2:10:40

Thank you.

2:10:41

Councilmember Tottle.

2:10:42

Thank you.

2:10:42

And this thank you for your comments appreciated, and thank you to Troy for your presentation and your work on this initiative.

2:10:48

Um, just kind of a follow-up to Councilmember Ballard.

2:10:51

When I met with Sam, I asked some of the same questions, and it's my understanding you hope to hire 600 more individuals by the end of 2025.

2:10:59

So that's a robust goal.

2:11:01

But I also appreciate you working with WSU Tech, with WSU, with the local high schools to try and and to get those hires.

2:11:08

So 600 more by the end of the year would be the goal, is my understanding.

2:11:12

Yes, that's right.

2:11:12

Thank you.

2:11:15

I see no further questions.

2:11:17

Thank you, Damon.

2:11:18

Again, Sam and Troy.

2:11:19

We'll now open it up for public comment.

2:11:28

Uh once again, Stephen Ahmad, 540, East Street, First Street and North.

2:11:32

Uh, I think what's critical that was brought up there is not the data they presented, but the data they did not present.

2:11:37

They did not present what the median wage at those industries were.

2:11:40

They did not present what the turnover rate was for those jobs.

2:11:43

They only presented the economic downturn from 2019 to 2020, but did not mention any upturn or downturn from 2021 to 2025, and are continuing to advocate for themselves to receive a continued 100% uh tax rebate, um, despite their continued evidence of economic growth, and that economic growth could help fund many of those projects we were discussing earlier today, which did not have opening for public comments to comment on as well as she mentioned.

2:12:08

Um but with many of those, we talked about how there were rises in those budget increases and how some of those were increasing on that cost, including that plant we talked about earlier that had an increase from 11 million to 12.2 million dollars for its budget um for that first phase.

2:12:21

And in you know, not having 100% tax rate on this company here could help produce at least some semblance of funds, even if it's not a you know complete removal of tax credit, but dropping to 50% tax credit instead of 100%, but remain retaining the same uh requirements for them to meet to receive those benefits as well as possibly increasing them and requiring them to report the median wage, not just the average base wage.

2:12:47

Those numbers can be skewed as the average versus the median.

2:12:50

Thank you.

2:12:54

We'll continue with public comments.

2:13:00

I didn't really prepare anything, but um as I I realize this facility is uh meant for um commercial airplanes, but this company has a relationship with Israel and other companies.

2:13:15

It's being acquired by Boeing that has a relationship with Israel, and I'd like for you to consider that um because those weapons that that they're involved in making are killing innocent families and children.

2:13:31

Thank you.

2:13:34

We'll continue with public comment.

2:13:37

I see none.

2:13:38

I'll bring it back to the bench.

2:13:42

This resides in Councilmember Hohlheisels district.

2:13:45

Thank you, Mayor.

2:13:46

Um, to some of the concerns that were spoken about earlier.

2:13:50

We are looking at potentially some changes with the IRB process going forward.

2:13:54

Uh perhaps a step down process to where it declined slowly over the years, perhaps just um doing away with some exemptions.

2:14:02

Um this is something that we already had.

2:14:05

Um so this is the five-year look back, and there is um designation for um economic downturn like we had.

2:14:12

This is a lifeblood um profession within our district, within our city.

2:14:18

And I do think it's important to work with them as best as we can.

2:14:21

Uh I was um privileged enough to go to the economic outlook conference the other day.

2:14:27

And there are some things that are um we gotta work through as far as regulations and the Boeing and the Spirit deal going forward.

2:14:35

But aircraft, uh just civilian aircraft, which is the most the thing that they focus on the most here.

2:14:42

The orders for that are still a mile long.

2:14:45

So it's just a matter of ramping up our production whenever we do get these deals done and get through some of the um the limits that the federal government has placed on orders currently.

2:15:00

So uh with that I do I will make the recommendation based on the capital investments made, return on investment and temporarily achieving job creation commitments.

2:15:07

It is I move that the city council approve the second five-year 100% add valor and tax exemption.

2:15:14

Second.

2:15:14

Motion and a second, any further discussion.

2:15:17

I see none.

2:15:18

Madam Clerk, please open the roll.

2:15:22

Motion passes 7-0.

2:15:24

Madam Clerk, please call the next item.

2:15:28

Repair or removal of dangerous and unsafe structure.

2:15:36

Good morning, Mayor, City Council members.

2:15:38

Uh Chris Labor and MABCD.

2:15:40

So the item before you today is addressed as uh 1416 and 1418 Park Place.

2:15:46

It is a duplex, excuse me, that is on the historic registry.

2:15:50

Uh, this began with you all on April 1st when we brought this forward as a potential condemnation, as well as an appeal of a historic preservation board denial of that uh condemnation uh request.

2:16:04

Uh at that point, the city council deferred this item to today in order to give the uh historic Midtown Community Development Association a chance to take ownership of the property and make progress.

2:16:19

I'm happy to report that at this point in time they have done that, so that that uh ownership has changed as of uh a little over a month ago.

2:16:27

It's been updated in all systems, so it's uh very easy to see.

2:16:31

Uh they have also uh done a uh they have paid all of the taxes, which is very important to us to see.

2:16:37

And they've done quite a bit of work to ensure the premise conditions are uh clean and maintained.

2:16:43

Uh they've also done a great deal to clean the interior of the property and uh have maintained uh that um the security with that.

2:16:52

They do have a permit in place, they do not yet have a full building permit, but they do have an electrical permit in place so that they've been able to get electricity to the inside to facilitate the cleanup as well as help with security and an alarm system.

2:17:04

Uh so they have begun that process, they're working towards state credits, tax credits right now in order to uh help with the project and uh are trying to get that in place before they get the building permit.

2:17:15

So staff plans to continue to work with them on that, uh again, pending the outcome of this discussion.

2:17:22

So uh I will hit a few pictures quickly here.

2:17:26

Uh obviously the exterior has not yet been started, so uh these look similar to what you saw last time, with the exception that the premise conditions, the security of the building, uh, and those items have been addressed to our satisfaction.

2:17:43

I do not have pictures of the interior just based kind of on our legal access, but we have seen the interior, we know it's in good condition.

2:17:51

We know uh that uh we've also had a council member see the interior.

2:17:54

So uh we've we've got on good authority that uh that that work has been done.

2:18:00

So uh with that and at this time, it is the staff recommendation that uh the council would take any remaining public comment.

2:18:07

Uh let me uh preface that with uh reminding you that we did open the public hearing at the uh April 1st meeting.

2:18:14

So I would recommend that uh the council take any remaining uh public comment and then close the public hearing and at that point return the property to regular code enforcement, thereby removing it from current condemnation consideration.

2:18:28

And I'll gladly stand for any questions.

2:18:31

Thank you, Chris.

2:18:32

Councilmember Glascom.

2:18:34

Thank you, Mayor.

2:18:34

Chris, one quick question.

2:18:35

How are we gonna continue to put the foot on the gas pedal and making sure that development happens if there's let's say you remove it from the condemnation condemnation list, what is the incentive for the project to continue to be pushed forward?

2:18:50

And let's say they didn't continue to meet objectives, how long does it take to get back on the condemnation list?

2:18:56

Uh that's a great question, sir.

2:18:57

So uh the the council would obviously have the option to defer this action again to provide them more time to work uh you know with with that oversight.

2:19:07

Uh we will work to keep this moving with the permits.

2:19:12

Uh what I will say is that with the ownership change, uh, when we analyze this with the ownership change, there is very little that we would not re-accomplish uh if even if this was simply deferred.

2:19:25

So if we were to move forward with any type of condemnation or notifications, we would want to put this back in front of the BCSA, our advisory board, etc.

2:19:34

Uh, given what has been done, and again, mainly given that new ownership.

2:19:37

So, in order to meet all of those legal aspects, 95% of that process would be repeated anyway.

2:19:43

So you would lose very little by uh bringing it uh removing it from condemnation consideration, even if this was to to not go forward or not come to fruition.

2:19:53

Okay, thank you.

2:19:54

So, and uh I do uh apologize I did not see earlier that Randall had made it today.

2:20:00

So we do have a representative of the new owners here who uh I'm sure will also I don't need to speak unless there's questions.

2:20:07

Be happy to answer questions if you have them.

2:20:10

Councilmember Ballard.

2:20:13

Thank you, Mayor.

2:20:14

Uh Randall, I have a couple questions for you if you don't mind.

2:20:17

Sure.

2:20:17

Thank you for being here.

2:20:19

Absolutely.

2:20:19

Thank you for all of the work that you and the neighborhood have done.

2:20:24

Um six months ago, this is a little bit different.

2:20:27

I know you guys work really hard to obtain the property, you guys own it outright.

2:20:32

Um actually the inside of it is absolutely beautiful.

2:20:35

I was really surprised there was just uh empty Coca-Cola trash everywhere, but the inside of it is beautiful, it has these awesome built-ins.

2:20:45

But I did have a couple questions.

2:20:47

Um can you explain how tax credits work and your familiarity with them?

2:20:52

Yes, well, um, I've done a lot of tax credits.

2:20:56

I live in the historic district, as do most of our volunteers, so we've all been through the process.

2:21:03

Plus, I had the opportunity to get a federally designated pro um project done.

2:21:11

It's over at the Victor Court.

2:21:13

So I've been through this process many times.

2:21:16

So the tax credits go in on Friday, and usually it takes the state about six weeks.

2:21:26

We've been in contact with them because we want to do the right thing.

2:21:31

I mean, we could have picked an easy project, but um we need to go back with what's historically accurate, and they will guide us through that and approve it because we wouldn't want to do anything without their approval.

2:21:47

So we're gonna have a little bit of a hold up here and then we're ready to go.

2:21:52

I have rarely had them come back and say no, but we've been following, they said we need to do stucco, and so that's been a little more challenging, but we have a contractor now, and so we're ready to go.

2:22:07

So assuming that so the applications due Friday, we wait six, eight weeks to see if you're awarded what happens if you by chance are not awarded the tax credits.

2:22:17

Um we have a letter of funding from the bank, and so we have a donor that'll fend it.

2:22:24

Plus, we've reached out to numerous grants and associations here in Wichita for funds already.

2:22:31

And if the way that I understand it is you haven't started on the exterior at all because you wouldn't be able to apply for credits, is that right?

2:22:41

Exactly.

2:22:41

You can't start the project until they've approved it.

2:22:47

Anything else you'd like to share?

2:22:50

I don't think so for anybody that is concerned about you if you're not awarded the tax credits, the timeline of when you would start the exterior if you had to lean into your donor.

2:23:02

Just as soon as we know, it's a line of credit.

2:23:06

So we're approved for a line of credit for the exterior work.

2:23:11

Okay, thank you.

2:23:13

Thank you, Rhonda Lee.

2:23:15

Thank you.

2:23:16

I see no further questions.

2:23:18

We'll open it up for public comment.

2:23:27

I used to live on Park Place for a long time, and I passed by this property regularly.

2:23:34

I always admired it.

2:23:35

It's a beautiful building, and I completely support saving this building.

2:23:41

It sounds like it can it can be repaired, and I love the idea that it will be historically accurately repaired.

2:23:50

So I just want to advocate for this property being repaired and remaining a part of Wichita's history.

2:23:56

Thank you.

2:23:59

I see no further.

2:24:03

Hi, Sam.

2:24:06

Good morning again again, Mayor and Council, Sam Sack at 1720 North Park Place, um, here in my personal capacity.

2:24:13

Um I appreciate the the the current owners of the property and uh the the effort and the work they've gone uh into turning this um eSOR uh into something that can be saved and restored.

2:24:26

And I think really the neighborhood as a whole is behind that effort, and we like to be able to save and preserve properties whenever possible.

2:24:34

Uh my my only concern uh or uh ask of the councils for consideration of doing everything possible to keep pressure onto the current landowner uh property owners.

2:24:46

Um we were told six months ago that we would have substantial work being done on the restoration of the outside of the building, and as you saw from the picture taken, it looks like a few weeks ago, that has not materialized.

2:25:00

There are there are always good reasons for that, and I think um I think you know things happen, and um, I just think that as we look ahead to the tax credit process, and then anything else that might come up that was unexpected, um, I would urge the council to think about doing everything in its power to make sure that that pressure remains because as a neighborhood, this blight at this particular property has been going on for not just six months or a year or two or three or four, it's been like four or five years at least.

2:25:28

And so I know that the neighbors in that area are really really ready for something to change, and again, overall supportive of the landowner uh the property owner and what they're trying to do.

2:25:39

Um, we wish them full success in that, but again, uh we would just ask if there's anything that the council can do to make sure that that pressure remains so that we can not slide unintentionally into further delay after delay.

2:25:55

Thank you.

2:25:56

I have a question for Rhonda Lee then uh regarding that very question.

2:26:01

So I think for folks um who are maybe just now tuning in, this is a private property.

2:26:06

This is not owned by the city of Wichita.

2:26:08

This is private property.

2:26:10

Um, and again, as was stated, this has come before this council before because of the blight and again unsightliness because it's deteriorated.

2:26:20

Can you tell us what the next steps are beyond just the tax credit application?

2:26:26

Can you talk about some of the exterior uh improvements?

2:26:29

Absolutely.

2:26:30

Um that we have a staco contractor, um, the stecko would be the first step.

2:26:37

We also have a masonry contractor, plus we'll redo the interior, but that won't be seen from the outside.

2:26:45

We have a donor that has cared for the lawn all year so that it would look good for the neighborhood.

2:26:51

And you know, we've reached out to neighbors and asked them to come and help us, and we haven't had much response there.

2:27:02

Um, but anyway, so we're gonna redo the exterior, the porches, those things that you see like on the um porch pillars, the stucco would be redone there, and um I would hope that you know, with construction, they always say two weeks, and it is longer.

2:27:25

But we're um totally committed, and would um obviously support not having to come back and discuss it with you again and put the city through all of this.

2:27:42

So anything else?

2:27:43

Thank you, Rhonda Lee.

2:27:45

And again, what's the ultimate goal?

2:27:46

Would you like to have individuals living in the house?

2:27:49

Can you talk about the ultimate goal?

2:27:51

Uh-huh.

2:27:52

Um it's um well, obviously, with the duplex, we'd have two renters, and we want it to be an income source if we need to pay back to um you know for our donor with the equity, plus um we want to going forward do other properties in the midtown area.

2:28:14

So it will be income producing with two renters.

2:28:19

I've already had some interest in people renting it actually.

2:28:23

Thank you.

2:28:24

Councilmember Glasgow.

2:28:26

One quick question.

2:28:26

I know you've kind of spoken to this already, but what is your dream timeline?

2:28:31

Or what's worst case scenario?

2:28:33

What's worst case scenario?

2:28:35

Well, my dream timeline is by next May or June.

2:28:40

To have fully be able to rent it.

2:28:44

What's worst case scenario?

2:28:46

Um, if we have a contractor that falls through, it could be closer into the fall.

2:28:51

Okay.

2:28:51

Yeah.

2:28:52

And you know, the contractors, they're hard to control.

2:28:56

Um quick question for Chris again.

2:28:59

Thank you.

2:28:59

Oh, okay.

2:29:00

Should context.

2:29:05

Going back to my concerns.

2:29:07

So let's say something isn't developed by May of this year, the property stands similarly as it stands now, um, very blighted on the outside.

2:29:17

What are the tools the city has at our disposal come May?

2:29:22

We would uh re-energize the housing case and immediately put this back under condemnation consideration.

2:29:28

Okay, immediately, how long does it immediately take?

2:29:30

Uh the next time our board of code standards and appeals meets, so it would be within a month of that that we could put that back in front of them.

2:29:38

Uh I think a lot of that question would come down to status of a building permit and construction project.

2:29:45

So if they were to begin construction, stall out on a permit, uh, we would wait until that had kind of run its course and it was apparent that no more work was taking place, and then energize that.

2:29:55

If uh no permit is obtained at that point, uh, no work has been done, then we would immediately go forward to put this back, bring this back in front of you.

2:30:04

So we could have maybe have 30 days, try to bring it back before us, and then that could come back before us in a condemnation sentence.

2:30:10

From so uh from the time we decided to re-energize it, we would probably say 30 days to our BCSA.

2:30:18

Uh after that, probably another 30 to 45 before it would be in front of City Council, just given schedule.

2:30:24

Okay.

2:30:25

Thank you.

2:30:27

Thank you, Chris.

2:30:28

We'll continue with public comment.

2:30:31

I see none.

2:30:32

We'll bring it back to the bench.

2:30:34

This resides in Councilmember Ballard's district.

2:30:38

Thank you, Mayor.

2:30:40

I appreciate all of the insight.

2:30:42

Um I think and appreciate that so far.

2:30:48

Um the group from Midtown has done everything in a timely manner, obtained the property through probate and all things, paid all of the back taxes.

2:30:58

Um they removed seven dumpsters full of um garbage from the inside and the outside.

2:31:05

Uh they all live in you know historic home, so I think they understand what they're getting into and also appreciate it.

2:31:12

So with that, I move to adopt the finding of the historic preservation board and deny the demo permit in support of this motion.

2:31:21

I offer the following.

2:31:22

This property is a historic resource and is important to the sense of our community, and stakeholders have recently cleaned up the property and continue to work to make it better.

2:31:30

I think Chris were you looking for a receive and file.

2:31:35

Or uh uh return the uh property code enforcement.

2:31:39

Yes, ma'am.

2:31:40

I think council member there may be confusion on this item.

2:31:42

The um recommendation of staff is to close the public hearing, return it to regular code enforcement.

2:31:49

There's another item coming up, but this is um okay.

2:31:53

Just kidding.

2:31:55

Uh I move to close the public hearing, return the property to regular according code enforcement, thereby removing it from condemnation consideration.

2:32:05

Second.

2:32:06

Motion and a second.

2:32:07

Any further discussion?

2:32:09

I see none.

2:32:10

Madam Clerk, please open the roll.

2:32:19

Someone's missing.

2:32:22

Apologies.

2:32:23

Motion passes 70.

2:32:25

Madam Clerk, please call the next item.

2:32:28

Applicant appeal of HPC 2025-8 condemnation and demolition permit for 1416 and 1418 North Park, please.

2:32:38

Yes, uh, thank you again, Mayor.

2:32:39

Council members Chris Labram again.

2:32:41

Uh ma'am, I got them a little out of order for you there because of our recommendation with the uh condemnation.

2:32:47

Uh given your last action, MABCD would like to withdraw our appeal.

2:32:53

And um the motion that uh the motion that uh you just made, Councilmember Ballard would apply.

2:33:03

Do you want me to read it again?

2:33:06

Jennifer, do you want me to read it again?

2:33:07

Yes, please.

2:33:08

Thank you.

2:33:10

I move to adopt the findings of the historic preservation board and deny the demolition permit.

2:33:15

In support of this motion, I offer the following.

2:33:17

This property is a historic resource and is important to our sense of community, and stakeholders have recently cleaned up the property to continue to make it better.

2:33:26

Second.

2:33:27

Motion and a second, any further discussion.

2:33:30

I see none.

2:33:31

Madam Clerk, please open the roll.

2:33:38

Motion passes 7-0.

2:33:40

Madam Clerk, please call the next item.

2:33:43

Applicant appeal of HPC 2025-60.

2:33:51

Hello, good morning.

2:33:52

Scott Weddle from the planning department.

2:33:54

Here to present this item.

2:33:57

I believe we've got the PowerPoint showing for the prior case.

2:34:10

So just a moment while we bring up the photos and everything.

2:34:13

Here we go.

2:34:14

Okay, very good.

2:34:15

So uh this item is being heard today because it was deferred to this date.

2:34:20

So uh this is an appeal of a decision by the Wichita Historic Preservation Board to deny a building permit for awnings to be installed at the Abla House, which is located at 102 and 104 North Pinecrest.

2:34:32

The board determined that the proposed awnings would damage or destroy the historic building.

2:34:36

The applicant is proposing to install awnings on the second floor of the building in order to keep water off the flat roof slash terraces, slash patios on top of the first floor.

2:34:47

The owner intends for the awnings to help protect the interior spaces below and to allow him to make any necessary repairs.

2:35:00

In terms of the process, this item is being presented today because of a 2022 agreement between the City of Wichita and the Kansas Historic Preservation Officer.

2:35:05

The agreement allows for local review of projects that affect historic places instead of having to send them up to Topeka.

2:35:11

As part of the agreement, the appeal of the local review goes to the City Council.

2:35:17

In terms of the property background, the building at 104 North Pine Pinecrest is individually listed on the National Register of Historic Places.

2:35:25

It was listed back in 2009.

2:35:28

It was listed under criterions B and C, and that is for its association with the original owners, brothers Frank and Harvey Abla, and also for its notable architectural design and construction.

2:35:41

So here is an aerial showing the location right at the corner of Douglas and Pinecrest.

2:35:46

Here are some photos of the site in the surroundings.

2:35:56

And then here's some images and graphics that were submitted by the applicant as part of their application to the Wichita Historic Preservation Board.

2:36:05

Some of them show the interior damages, some of them show the exterior up on the roof slash terraces, and some are illustrations of the proposed awnings.

2:36:25

So there are multiple terraces, so there are different uh groupings of photos.

2:36:30

So here's the illustration that was submitted by the applicant at the previous city council meeting showing what the proposed awnings would look like.

2:36:37

And uh they are horizontal lines on this image, so they kind of blend in with the uh rest of the exterior.

2:36:46

Okay, here's the aerial again.

2:36:48

So here's an overview of the process to date.

2:36:51

Back in uh June, the applicant submitted an application for the historic preservation board to review the proposed awnings project back in July uh 14th.

2:37:01

On July 14th, the HPB determined that the proposed project would damage or destroy historic property.

2:37:06

On July 22nd, uh the applicant submitted an appeal to the city clerk.

2:37:12

On August 12th, the city council deferred this item in order to allow for another opportunity for the historic preservation board to consider the case and for the applicant to provide additional details.

2:37:22

On August 27th, MAPD and MABCD staff met to discuss the proposed project.

2:37:30

MABCD staff advised that the applicant's proposed project would require a building permit and that a report from a structural engineer would be required as part of that building permit process.

2:37:41

This information was subsequently relayed to the applicant to make sure that they were aware of it, and that was done on August 29th via email.

2:37:48

On September 8th, the Wichita Historic Preservation Board considered the application again and recommended denial of the awnings that vote was 401, with so one abstention.

2:38:00

During the discussion, the historic preservation board members expressed concern that the applicant did not have a structural engineer or a licensed contractor to assist with the design and installation of the proposed awnings.

2:38:11

Prior to making the motion, the HPB member who made that motion indicated a preference for the applicant to submit an application for the building permit with all the necessary accompanying information, and that having the application information would be helpful for the HPB to evaluate this project.

2:38:28

And there's a more complete uh dialogue contained in the notes which are attached to the staff report.

2:38:35

So when reviewing a project, the Wichita Historic Preservation Board reviews it using the Secretary of Interior Standards.

2:38:42

Again, the board found that the permit would damage or destroy a historic place, and the notes are attached to the staff report.

2:38:55

So just a quick note about the process that this is a historic preservation appeal by the applicant, not a zoning item.

2:39:01

So therefore it's recommended that the city council hear from the applicant and who is in attendance and take public comment on the item.

2:39:08

In terms of city council action, uh you have a number of options.

2:39:12

You can uh deny this the permit by adopting the findings of the Wichita Historic Preservation Board, or uh you can determine that there's no feasible imprudent alternative, approve the building permit, and authorize the mayor to sign a letter to the Kansas State Historic Preservation Officer.

2:39:29

And with that, I'll stand for any questions.

2:39:33

Thank you, Scott.

2:39:34

Um, I do have a question regarding this.

2:39:36

Uh this came before us not too long ago, and one of my concerns was is this overburdensome for a property owner, especially someone who's trying to keep historic buildings in our community.

2:39:49

Uh, his biggest concern was water damage that um has seeped into the interior of that home.

2:40:00

And so I wanted to know what's when the applicant went back to the historic preservation board.

2:40:12

The interaction between the board and the property owner, I believe I was not there, but in referring to the notes and talking with staff, uh, the dialogue was about whether or not there was any new additional information.

2:40:24

I think the applicant was able to share additional perspective on it.

2:40:28

Um at the same time, though, uh, the notes reflect from the conversation that members of the board were looking for uh perhaps more detailed information, and especially that a contractor or a structural engineer would be involved in the project.

2:40:42

So uh without that being the case, I think that uh contributed to uh the results of that meeting.

2:40:50

I have received a couple of emails regarding this property from neighbors in the area who are supportive of this property owner and trying to make sure that it again stays historic, but also uh does not continue to have further damage.

2:41:06

Um so there again, the emails that I have received have been supportive of Mr.

2:41:11

Terman.

2:41:12

Um, and I don't know about the other council members, uh, but I don't have any further questions for you, and I'll open it up for public comment, which will allow Mr.

2:41:22

Terman to come up and speak.

2:41:41

Um thank you to the city council members and Mayor Wu.

2:41:52

I want to say thank you.

2:41:54

Um I also want to give Brandon Johnson a shout out.

2:41:58

Um it was his suggestion that took it back to the to the board uh for reconsideration.

2:42:06

Um of course the HBC and and my position remains unchanged.

2:42:15

If I do what the WHPB suggests, scaffolding and TARPs, um the cost for the scaffolding um that we can best figure out will be needed, adds $2800 per month to this project, which I'm looking at two years.

2:42:40

Um sixty-seven thousand dollars.

2:42:45

Um and this does not include the labor that will be needed uh for replacing the tarps every two or three to four months.

2:42:54

Um this balloons my budget by about fifty thousand dollars.

2:43:04

The blade style awing design I've proposed can do a better job than scaffolding and tarps for much less.

2:43:15

I'm expecting to cover the decks with the blade style awings for about $20,000.

2:43:24

That includes the labor.

2:43:26

I mean, it's a very simple design.

2:43:29

So um you know, this is money that I don't have.

2:43:35

Uh and it's money that would be taken away from the project itself.

2:43:41

I need confidence.

2:43:43

I need confidence to know that when I open up the ceiling to my dining room, the ceilings to some of the kitchens are part of the kitchens to a couple of the bedrooms, that I have a solid surface above.

2:44:00

And that um I've worked with TARPs all my life.

2:44:08

I've been raised in rentals and construction and and and tarps, you know, they have a purpose, but do you know what?

2:44:17

TARPs have not improved over time.

2:44:21

Um the TARPs for this project will be a disaster to the beautiful hardwood floors underneath.

2:44:31

And two thousand uh in August 14, August 2014, I applied for replacement insurance.

2:44:39

The insurance came in and they did quite an extensive valuation.

2:44:43

It took several months.

2:44:45

It was a property that they didn't know much about, they didn't know how to figure it out.

2:44:51

But one thing was certain the hardwood floors, the quality, the design, the way they put together, replacement value on the hardwood floors alone is over a million dollars.

2:45:07

My insurance company was also really disappointed in their suggestion, calling it laxadaisal.

2:45:17

The scaffolding the expense of tarps.

2:45:43

And please remember, I've offered to remove the scaffolding when this project is done.

2:45:52

For the ABLA house itself, it provides the city with more than just property tax revenue.

2:46:04

It also provides sales tax and occupancy tax revenues as we also operate it as an Airbnb.

2:46:21

On this problem, unfortunately, the WHPB is out of touch.

2:46:44

Coming in with great presentations, digitally enhanced and beautiful.

2:46:52

And I don't have those kind of budgets to make this work.

2:46:56

And I feel what they're forgetting is the individual homeowner who lives in the house, who's studied the problem, in my case for 25 years, looking for an economical good solution.

2:47:12

In other words, my favorite phrase in something like this is making lemonade out of lemons.

2:47:20

Last, and and something that's extremely important to me, is the respect to my neighbors.

2:47:28

They have always been supportive for the last 25 years.

2:47:33

And I honestly can't imagine anything more horrible than sticking up a bunch of scaffolding and shredded tarps due to wind damage while this process goes through.

2:47:47

And and I ask you, uh please, help me stop the bleeding by providing me this surface so I can uh start a comprehensive uh terrace uh project and and I can do this with confidence.

2:48:13

So thank you, and I'll be glad to answer any questions you have.

2:48:17

Thank you, Mr.

2:48:18

Chairman.

2:48:20

I don't see any questions.

2:48:22

I just wanted to um ask you really quickly.

2:48:25

You mentioned how long you've been uh the property owner of this uh historic building, and again, we don't want this to be overburdensome for you because again, you're doing it on your dime.

2:48:38

You're not asking for taxpayers to help you with this.

2:48:41

I am not.

2:48:42

You are just asking to be able to renovate your building so that it doesn't have further damage from rain.

2:48:50

And so I really appreciate you continuing to make sure that we have this housing stock in our community, but also one that has historic significance to the city of Wichita.

2:49:01

And I commend you for trying to do this on your dime, and as you mentioned, you're asking and pleading from to this council that you don't want to continue bleeding, um, and that you're just asking to again be able to utilize your home.

2:49:17

And so these are just my comments uh, and I again from the last conversation where you were before us, I wanted to make sure that you could move forward with your project.

2:49:28

Um, but again, it went back uh to the preservation board.

2:49:32

Uh, but ultimately, this council can make that decision.

2:49:35

So thank you very much for coming back yet again.

2:49:38

Thank you.

2:49:38

Councilmember Glascom.

2:49:40

Thank you, Mayor.

2:49:41

I was probably gonna say my comments to the end, but since you're up here, um I'll speak to you directly.

2:49:45

I don't disagree with one thing you said.

2:49:47

Um I think everything you said was pointed and accurate.

2:49:51

Um I think this is crazy.

2:49:53

This is coming for us.

2:50:00

Um when I looked at that background slide and that you started this process months ago, and that we have been the burden that while rains continue to fall in the area and your house has probably seen more flooding this year than probably any other year, because of the delay of this body, your situation, your home has gotten worse.

2:50:11

So on behalf of the citizens of Wichita, I apologize for that.

2:50:14

And government should not be making it harder for you to make your house livable and to maintain your property.

2:50:20

Um I think the request was out of touch.

2:50:23

I think it was unreasonable.

2:50:24

The request of $50,000 more to be able to do the recommendation from the board um again is out of touch and unreasonable.

2:50:33

And so um I will not be supportive of the original um recommendation day, the alternative to determine uh that there are no prudent or feasible alternatives.

2:50:44

So again, I apologize and thank you for being here, and thank you for uh staying after your property, especially as a homeowner.

2:50:49

Thank you.

2:50:49

I I do have one more thing.

2:50:51

I I sent you around a picture.

2:50:54

Um in the process, um the planners that I've worked with, uh they've been great.

2:51:02

I mean, one of the suggestions that um I said, you know, if you could come up with a picture of a of a similar building, um, and and and so I didn't think this would fall into place the way it was, but um on the southwest corner of central and emporia, there is a a building that is very similar in architectural style.

2:51:33

It's it's got the rounded corners, it has the bands that wrap around the building.

2:51:40

And on this building, there are what I call awnings made of permanent materials, protecting the doorways, walkways, those kind of things.

2:51:50

And uh I just wanted to bring that to your attention as it's so close.

2:51:55

And um uh something that may be a a good comparison uh to what I'm doing now.

2:52:03

Thank you.

2:52:04

Thank you, Mr.

2:52:05

Chairman, Councilmember Tuttle.

2:52:07

Thank you.

2:52:07

Thank you for being here.

2:52:08

And again, I I feel awful for your situation.

2:52:10

I concur with my colleagues.

2:52:12

I I think you should have your awnings.

2:52:14

Um the comment that you made that you were concerned about your neighbors and that they would have to look at the scaffolding that was not lost on me.

2:52:21

That even during all of this strife that you're having that you're having, you're still trying to be a good neighbor and a good Wichita.

2:52:27

So I will be supportive, however, this works out of you getting the awnings that you need.

2:52:32

Thank you.

2:52:34

Thank you, Mr.

2:52:35

Terman.

2:52:36

We'll continue to open it up for public comment if anyone from the public would like to speak.

2:52:48

Actually, um I have some questions because I tend to side with the historic preservation board.

2:52:56

And I don't sitting in the audience, I don't have a very good idea of I love this building.

2:53:02

And I know this building is is beloved in the city of Wichita by many, many people.

2:53:08

And um I I trust their judgment, but I don't have the full picture.

2:53:15

I like I literally don't have pictures.

2:53:18

I saw a little flash of what it would look like.

2:53:21

I don't, but I don't really have a full understanding, and I'm personally concerned that it would be aesthetically damaged in some way.

2:53:32

I also am very concerned about the water damage on the building.

2:53:37

Now another possibility.

2:53:47

Um attorney.

2:53:50

Yeah, just under um ordinance mayor.

2:53:52

Um, any speakers' comments are to be directed only to the bench.

2:53:55

Oh, only to the bench.

2:53:57

Okay.

2:53:57

So well, I mean, I just have questions about it.

2:54:00

I'd love to talk to him about it now that I'm talking to you.

2:54:04

Um because I do in this city, there have been so many sad changes made to our historic buildings that Wichita hardly looks like Wichita anymore.

2:54:19

It just looks like these new um soulless, very plain and very unattractive.

2:54:27

New buildings built with poor quality materials that um probably aren't gonna stand the test of time, you know.

2:54:37

Ten years maybe, maybe 15.

2:54:41

So um I'm always concerned about updates, and I care a lot about this building.

2:54:48

I also care about this homeowner and what he's been going through.

2:55:03

Working with him and the historic preservation board and public opinion.

2:55:10

You know, it's possible.

2:55:12

I think it's a very, very popular beloved building in Wichita.

2:55:16

And I think a lot of which attendance really want to hang on to what we still have since you know the Crown Uptown is in danger of being torn down, and so many other historic buildings in which have been torn down or all turned in such a way that they don't resemble much what they once were.

2:55:36

So that's my comment.

2:55:38

Thank you.

2:55:40

We'll continue with public comment.

2:55:46

All right.

2:55:47

We will close public comment and bring it back to the bench.

2:55:54

This resides in council member Johnson's district.

2:55:59

Thank you, Mayor.

2:56:00

My specific concerns have actually been addressed.

2:56:03

So I would move that the council determine there are no prudent or feasible alternatives to the request, override the decision of the historic preservation board, authorize the mayor to sign a letter to the Kansas Historic Preservation Officer and approve the building permit.

2:56:16

Second.

2:56:18

Motion and a second.

2:56:19

Any further discussion?

2:56:21

I see none.

2:56:22

Madam Clerk, please open the roll.

2:56:39

Motion passes 70.

2:56:42

Madam Clerk, please call the next item.

2:56:47

Public exigency ratification for compressor replacement at the Wichita Ice Center.

2:56:56

Good morning, Mayor and Council members, Gary Jansen, Public Works and Utilities.

2:56:59

The first two items I have for you is a request for ratification of the public exigency for replacement of compressor at the Wichita Ice Center.

2:57:08

So at full capacity, the Wichita Ice Center operates uh two ice rinks, Olympic and NHL National Hockey League size.

2:57:16

Um the sports facilities companies, who's the operator of the Wichita Ice Center was building ice on the Olympic rink on September 9th, and one of the two ammonia compressors failed.

2:57:27

The operator contacted an ammonia certified contractor, advanced mechanical solutions, and AMS determined that the compressor could not be repaired without a major rebuild.

2:57:37

Presently the ICE Center is operating with only the NHL rink available, and the operators making scheduling adjustments to accommodate users, uh, which is one of the impetus for the public exigency so that we can get them back online with both rinks as soon as possible.

2:57:54

After receiving notice of the failure, city staff solicited quotes and schedules from AMS for various options.

2:58:00

Uh the rebuild option was approximately 13 weeks, 65,000.

2:58:05

Standard replacement, uh meaning standard shipping and manufacturing time, 13 to 15 weeks, just over 56,000.

2:58:14

Expedited replacement would cut that almost in half uh at a little bit more cost of just over $60,000 due to limited parts availability and intensive labor, rebuilding the compressor would cost more and take longer than full replacement.

2:58:30

Waiting an additional month to formally bid for this replacement would incur additional scheduling impacts and possible cancellation of events, including a youth hockey tournament, high school hockey league games, figure skating practices, and extended holiday hours.

2:58:44

Again, the reason for the uh public exigency request of the manager and uh our request to you today.

2:58:51

The expedited shipping, which also includes expedited manufacturing of the new compressor option facilitates replacement completion as early as mid-November.

2:59:00

All associated costs are being shared with the law department for consideration, ongoing legal action related to premature equipment failures at the ICE Center.

2:59:09

The total anticipated cost of replacing the compressor is $60,128.

2:59:16

Funding is available in the ongoing city facility improvements for 2025 project budget identified in the opt-it adopted CIP will be financed with general obligation bonds.

2:59:28

Staff recommends city council affirm and ratify the city manager's public exigency approval to replace the failed ammonia compressor at the ice center.

2:59:37

And I'd be happy to stand for any questions.

2:59:41

Thank you, Gary.

2:59:42

Councilmember Hoheisel.

2:59:44

Thank you, Mayor.

2:59:45

Um this is the second compressor that has failed.

2:59:49

Am I correct on that, Gary?

2:59:51

So in July, thank you for asking that, and I thought someone might.

2:59:56

In July of 2023, both of the compressors had a failure.

3:00:00

So there's two parts of these compressors, and I'm not going to stand up here and act like the expert, but I got the right information from staff.

3:00:06

So the top end of both compressors failed in July of 2023.

3:00:11

Um, and were repaired at that time.

3:00:15

Now it's the bottom end of one of the compressors that has failed.

3:00:18

Uh there is normal maintenance and upkeep on these compressors and the equipment.

3:00:23

Uh just as recently as a couple months ago, um, an evaluation of the compressors showed everything that was fine.

3:00:29

So these things can happen rather quickly.

3:00:32

Okay.

3:00:33

Um what equipment do we have up there?

3:00:37

Major pieces of equipment that have not failed in the past four or five years.

3:00:42

So since 2022, um, in in July in 2018, the original 1996 chiller plant had failed in night in 2019.

3:00:57

Um replacement of the chiller plant was completed.

3:01:00

Since that time, um basically all of the ice making equipment has been repaired or replaced over the last several years.

3:01:08

Okay, do we anticipate any other um issues going forward?

3:01:15

Well, hopefully not.

3:01:16

Um, the you know, at this time, obviously, take a look at the other compressor.

3:01:20

Does not appear to be any issues at this time.

3:01:23

We've been fairly fortunate, all things considered that we haven't had any issues since March of 2024.

3:01:31

Um that was when kind of the last pieces of the ice making equipment were repaired or replaced at that time.

3:01:37

Right now, we don't anticipate any further issues, but we also didn't expect this one either.

3:01:43

Do we have any do we have a third party come in and check it out after it fails in that way, or is that more internal that we look at?

3:01:50

So uh the operator again, they have AMS uh come in and do preventative maintenance to do checks on all the equipment.

3:01:57

They had done so just recently again, even on these compressors, in spite of what happened with the failure.

3:02:04

So uh from from our standpoint and what we're working staff works with them.

3:02:08

Uh I think they're doing a good job with annual maintenance plan.

3:02:12

Okay, thank you.

3:02:15

Can you talk about some of the challenges in renting out this space now with this little delay?

3:02:24

Um, I might go the best information I've got I can go back to is um again the potential scheduling impacts or uh the types of events that could be canceled.

3:02:35

Is a youth hockey tournament, high school hockey league games, figure skating practices, and extended holiday hours.

3:02:41

So we again with the expedited approach to uh getting the new compressor, hope to be back online as early as mid-November.

3:02:50

Uh anything beyond that will cause additional impacts to scheduling for sure.

3:02:56

Thank you, Gary.

3:02:57

And this question is actually for Jennifer.

3:02:59

Uh, since we're still in ongoing legal action, uh, there are very limited uh questions that we can ask, but can you just uh share that we what are what's the status report that you can share that's public?

3:03:14

Sure.

3:03:14

Um the city is pursuing all all revenue all all avenues for damages against um two defendants in this case.

3:03:23

Um this this item is part of the original design um installation and it is included and will be specifically addressed in that litigation.

3:03:32

Thank you.

3:03:34

I see no further questions for staff.

3:03:36

We'll open it up for public comment.

3:03:40

I see none.

3:03:41

I'll bring it back to the bench.

3:03:43

This resides in council member Glasscock's district.

3:03:47

Thank you, Mayor.

3:03:49

I will move that the city council affirm and ratify the city manager's public exigency approval to replace the failed ammonia compressor at the Wichita Ice Center.

3:03:59

Second.

3:04:00

Motion and a second, any further discussion.

3:04:03

I see none.

3:04:03

Madam Clerk, please open the roll.

3:04:08

Motion passes 7-0.

3:04:10

Madam Clerk, please call the next item.

3:04:13

Overestimate bid for bio biological nutrient removal for plant one.

3:04:18

Mayor Council members Gary Jansen again.

3:04:20

Uh this item will look familiar to you, and I'm gonna hit on some of the things, same things we talked about earlier, but as a request for overestimate bid for BNR improvements for plant one.

3:04:31

Um back in March of 2024, the City Council approved a design agreement for the biological nutrient removal program improvements, which includes multiple projects.

3:04:41

Construction has been divided into several individual packages at treatment plants one and two, and for some improvements uh for the Calskin Interceptor sewer.

3:04:50

On September 12th, bids were open for the final construction package at plant one.

3:04:56

Uh this project will upgrade older control systems and electronic controls at plant one.

3:05:02

And again, this is the last project of the program to be bid.

3:05:05

The only bid received exceeded the engineers' estimate by just over 1.3 million dollars or 12% of the estimate.

3:05:11

The higher bids are the result of working on critical active infrastructure, short shutdown duration requirements, and continued inflationary impacts on material costs and labor.

3:05:22

I might mention again what I talked about before and our belief why there was only one bidder, has a lot to do with the current construction market.

3:05:29

We did make some additional effort to reach out to contractors.

3:05:32

This contractor uh assuming your approval today that will be awarded the bid is doing all of the work, all the remaining work on the plant two project packages, all the remaining packages tied to the plant two, uh primary B and R improvements.

3:05:47

Accepting the bid will allow the project to proceed without requiring it to rebid, thus eliminating a potential increase in the cost, delay of start, and possible loss of funding for the improvements.

3:05:57

In accordance with Charter Ordinance 228, staff recommends the city council approve acceptance of the lowest bid.

3:06:04

A revised estimate has been prepared to reflect the increased cost of constructing the improvements.

3:06:09

Funding is available in the BNR project budget of just over $387 million approved by the city council on March 5th, 2024.

3:06:18

I might mention again based on the question that was asked before.

3:06:22

We are uh this funding is from uh availability within that full budget.

3:06:27

Obviously, we've done the staff done a really good job working with the contractor and our owners rep to uh value engineer some savings into multiple projects, which is helping us out here.

3:06:38

We will help we will have the first change order on the project coming to the council relatively soon uh for improvements related to the package two projects, somewhere in the neighborhood of three million dollars.

3:06:49

A lot of it has to do with the fact that we're working on an older plant, right?

3:06:53

So um, and I'll just tell you real quick um kind of what that's about.

3:06:57

Uh the large clarifiers uh that we're making improvements to, the ones that we're putting the covers on for odor control, once you get those drained uh and determine the condition of the mechanisms there is what's driving some of that additional cost, not something that could have been known beforehand.

3:07:12

That'll come to the council soon at some point.

3:07:14

That still fits within this budget.

3:07:17

There could come a time when we start to push the limit, but again, we've got some contingency in place if we if at any point in time we need to exceed that, but that's something that we would bring back to the council.

3:07:28

With having said all that, staff recommends city council approve the acceptance of the lowest bid, and I'd be happy to answer any questions.

3:07:34

Thank you, Gary.

3:07:35

Councilmember for thank you, Mayor.

3:07:38

Um, this is one of the more odorous uh sewage treatment plants that we have.

3:07:43

I know a lot of people in the neighborhood surrounding are eager for this project to be complete.

3:07:49

Is this going to uh slow down our timeline at all?

3:07:52

Maybe a couple of weeks or I don't think so.

3:07:56

And especially it helps to have it does help to have the same contractor.

3:08:00

Um, the as far as mobilization, where they're at, the work that they're doing down there.

3:08:04

I think that's value to us at this point, but we don't expect to see any impact, any significant impact on schedule.

3:08:11

Okay, the odor control at plant two is um if we stay on the timeline, should be complete about this time next year.

3:08:18

Correct.

3:08:18

Is that uh where we are with plant one as well?

3:08:21

Uh approximately, yes.

3:08:24

I think it would probably be later in uh towards the end of next year or even into probably the first or second quarter of 2027, likely with where we're at right now.

3:08:34

Okay, thank you.

3:08:36

Gary, uh you mentioned uh that this project right now is at 387 million dollars.

3:08:43

However, a change order is coming, it's still within the budget.

3:08:46

Correct.

3:08:47

Um, how much have you budgeted within the 387 that will be fluctuating based off of uh predictable or not predictable, but rather uh anticipated uh buffers.

3:09:02

I'm not sure that I can give you a hard number, uh, but within all projects, we generally try to have some contingency knowing that the nature of construction, regardless of what we put into the design efforts.

3:09:16

There's like could be some unforeseen conditions like this.

3:09:20

Uh what we did, I might mention again that I think is really helped, obviously, is um since the first the first of the big projects, packages two and three were bid.

3:09:31

Uh we've had a very robust uh engagement with the contractor with our owners rep and staff uh to do everything we could for value engineering to save costs.

3:09:42

So we've realized considerable savings, and I apologize I don't have that number, just from those bids, even that allow us some additional contingency to be within the project.

3:09:52

So uh we don't we you know we don't always have a set number when we put the budgets together, uh, but we do want to make sure that we can accommodate changes as they come along.

3:10:03

Does it tend to be a percentage?

3:10:04

Like a yeah, and and and it it does, and I don't know that it I can necessarily give you a hard number, but uh by economy of scale as a project gets bigger, the percentage is smaller.

3:10:16

Um but we can in in you've probably seen some of the items we brought to you before as far as approval of change orders that changing that limit, that doesn't mean that changed the budget.

3:10:26

Uh but generally you can look at uh a project like this could be up to five percent.

3:10:30

You know, we've talked about on the water treatment plant uh that we're still only around one and a half to two percent.

3:10:36

I think with the change order that will come forward on this project, it will be in that same area, two to two and a half percent.

3:10:44

And while you mentioned the water treatment plant, since we're talking about major utility investments, um $387 million for BNR.

3:10:53

Can you remind us again regarding the water treatment plant and how that is going, as I believe we should be getting uh the keys to that by the end of this year?

3:11:05

Uh we're currently for the water treatment plant.

3:11:08

We are currently undergoing uh performance testing.

3:11:13

Um right now, the projected schedule uh for completion of that is around the first of December.

3:11:24

Remind us the dollar amount for this investment again, the water treatment.

3:11:29

Probably, I think our overall budget now is just over 550 million dollars.

3:11:37

Thank you very much, Gary.

3:11:39

Thank you.

3:11:40

Appreciate uh your team again, major investments by the city of Wichita to both water and sewer, which are the two critical aspects of uh public works, and we appreciate uh that this is happening, and again, Councilmember Hoheisel alluded to this earlier, but it uh does help reduce the odor uh that is produced out of that plant to help the residents in that area as well as travelers who drive by district three.

3:12:10

We will open it up for public comment.

3:12:18

Morning, Stephen Amod, uh 540 East 31st Street North.

3:12:22

Uh now I may be a little uninformed on how these funds are distributed to these contractors for these projects.

3:12:28

However, my recommendation being given they only have the one contractor who has gone over the estimated budget and just cited market forces for those kinds of things.

3:12:36

I would recommend if any funds are dispersed to the contractor before the completion of the project that we withhold any overestimate funds until the absolute completion of the project on time with a set time of you know the end of calendar year 27 or 26, my apologies.

3:12:51

Um, assuming no extensions given with approval from the council on a well-informed and a well-informed decision basis rather than just handing out when they ask for it.

3:13:00

Thank you.

3:13:06

I see none.

3:13:07

I'll bring it back to the bench.

3:13:09

Councilmember Hoheisel, this is in your district.

3:13:12

Thank you, Mayor.

3:13:12

And I do believe we have the ability uh within the allotted money to see exactly what they need to do, and there is some flexibility as far as the spending goes there.

3:13:23

Um so I would like to recommend that the city council approve acceptance of the lowest bid.

3:13:28

Second.

3:13:29

Motion and a second, any further discussion.

3:13:32

I see none.

3:13:33

Madam Clerk, please open the roll.

3:13:39

Motion passes 7-0.

3:13:41

Madam Clerk, please call the next item.

3:13:46

2026 payment standards housing choice voucher program.

3:14:01

Mayor, council members, my name is Jean Cruzero.

3:14:04

I am the housing choice voucher program manager, and we're going to talk about the 2026 payment standard uh housing choice for the housing choice voucher program.

3:14:13

The quality housing and work responsibility act of 1998 requires housing authorities to establish a housing choice voucher payment standard between 90 and 110 percent of the fair market rent published by the uh by HUD for applicable bedroom and unit sizes.

3:14:28

The payment standard is used to calculate the amount of maximum subsidy paid to landlords and includes an allowance for tenant paid utilities.

3:14:36

The QHWRA included a provision that does not allow tenants initially receiving assistance to pay more than 40 percent of adjusted monthly income for rent and utilities.

3:14:48

On January 1st of 2025, the Wichha Housing Authority was mandated to implement small area FMR.

3:14:55

The WHA jurisdiction includes Cedric Butler, Harvey Counties, outside of the city and Newton.

3:15:01

SE FMR regulation sets the fair market rents at the zip code level.

3:15:06

The Woodshaw Housing Authority must set the payment standard at 90 to 110 percent of the SAFMR for each zip code.

3:15:14

On August 22nd of 2025, HUD published a notice of the SAFMR for 2026.

3:15:21

The FMR is calculated at the 40th percentile of rents in each zip code.

3:15:26

An allowance for utilities is included in the FMR.

3:15:31

The 2026 payment standards are consistent with the city's comprehensive housing policy, specifically the components related to affordability, availability, and neighborhood stability.

3:15:42

Payment standards are also in accordance with the departmental goal to increase and preserve supply of housing to maintain affordability of residents earning 50% or less of the area median income.

3:15:54

The area median income for a family of four is currently 93,800.

3:16:01

The 2026 payment standards are calculated for all units within the Wichita Housing Authority jurisdiction and are set at varying percentages between 90 and 110% of the 2026 FMR based on bedroom size and participant success in leasing units of different bedroom sizes.

3:16:27

Higher opportunity areas are defined by Freddie Mack and Opportunity 360 as areas that provide housing stability, education, health and well-being, economic security, and mobility.

3:16:38

These areas often have a higher cost of living.

3:16:44

The only payment standards that will decrease for 2026 are in zip codes in which there are no existing tenancies.

3:16:51

As such, there will be no negative impact on any participating families.

3:16:56

All zip codes that have active tenancies will see an increase in the payment standard.

3:17:02

However, actual rent approved is determined through the rent reasonableness process as required by HUD.

3:17:09

Extensive analysis of leasing success rates and per excuse me, participant rent burden in each zip code was used to establish the recommended schedule.

3:17:18

It's on the and you should have this in your packet, but but here it is again.

3:17:27

Financial considerations.

3:17:28

There's no impact to the general fund.

3:17:31

Analysis demonstrates that setting payment standards in accordance with the attached schedule will increase the overall unit cost by 3.8 percent, but will be necessary to ensure adequate supply of housing units for participants to use the voucher.

3:17:48

Legal considerations.

3:17:50

Establishment of payment standards based on the small area FMRs is required by regulation for the WHA.

3:17:58

Recommendation.

3:17:59

It is recommended that the Woodshaw Housing Authority Board approve the 2026 payment standard schedule for the housing choice voucher program to be effective January 1st of 2026 for all housing assistant payment contracts and contract renewals effective thereafter.

3:18:13

And I stand for questions.

3:18:16

Eugene.

3:18:16

Councilmember Hohaiza.

3:18:18

Thank you, Mayor.

3:18:21

Um it sounds like a lot of this is mandated by HUD.

3:18:25

What exactly do we have any power over here in regards to this program?

3:18:31

I mean, we can set the payment standards according to the FMR that they set.

3:18:35

We can set ours for the housing authority anywhere between 90 and 110 percent of what HUD establishes as the FMR.

3:18:41

Does that make sense?

3:18:42

Yeah.

3:18:43

That's about what we have control over.

3:18:45

We we only have so much money, and we try to make sure that our money goes as far as it can because we want to make sure that we are supporting as many families as possible.

3:18:53

To give you an example, just due to flat um flat funding and increased rents.

3:18:58

We were we we the the number of people that we were able to support from January 1st of 2024, so year since this has been implemented, we've only been able, we've reduced that number by 382 families.

3:19:10

So the more money we spend, the fewer families were able to help.

3:19:13

So we try to be very careful and um conscious of of the clients that we serve and how the numbers that we put in place affect um our clients.

3:19:24

Yes, if I remember correctly, it was due to the rise in rent, the rising cost of rent and just a set amount of money that we have.

3:19:33

We weren't able to help all those families actually find housing because the uh the vouchers were not enough to help them find the housing.

3:19:40

That's why there was a reduction in a number, but an increase in the amount per voucher.

3:19:46

Um when looking at this, um do we look at supportive services?

3:19:50

What is in the area for these zip codes?

3:19:53

Is that impact um the rent in particular or the availability of vouchers to be used in those zip codes?

3:20:00

I'm not sure really how to how to answer that.

3:20:03

Um HUD sets you know sets the FMR based on uh the 40th uh I think I said it was the 40th percentile, yeah, 40 percentile of rents in each zip code, and it's determined on you know what what what Freddie Mac and uh Opportunity 360 uh determines as um an area of higher opportunity.

3:20:26

So they set that.

3:20:28

And um, as far as what what what it used to be is it used to be a metropolitan level, they used to do it by the metropolitan level versus the zip code level, and what was happening is landlords were artificially inflating the rents for not just voucher holders but for non-voucher holders.

3:20:45

For instance, in 67214 back in 2024, a one-bedroom um payment standard for was $815.

3:20:53

Well, I mean it was 815 payment standard for 67205.

3:20:58

And if you bought a house in 67214, that identical house in 67205 isn't gonna sell for the same amount.

3:21:04

So that's where HUD's coming in, and that's whether they're saying they're looking at each zip code individually and looking at what um what the uh they're looking at the uh it's calculated the 40 40th percentile of rents in each zip code, so that's how where they get their base from, and then we go from there to determine where we're gonna set our rents.

3:21:25

But um, you know, as far as what else we offer them.

3:21:29

I mean, I mean, if there's a place, I don't know how else to answer that.

3:21:33

I mean, Sally, there's uh council member Hull has a member of council.

3:21:44

The other aspect of this is the rent reasonableness review.

3:21:47

So that is where the payment standards set the maximum amount of subsidy.

3:21:51

But when we determine the actual rent allowed for a particular unit, there are 13 factors to go that go into that comparability study, and it is the age of the unit, the square footage, amenities, things like that that can bolster rents in areas, whether they're furnished, whether things like that.

3:22:08

So there are 13 different factors that go into that calculation on a unit by unit basis.

3:22:15

Setting the maximum subsidy, which is what's happening here today, is that requirement to set between 90 and 110.

3:22:22

Okay, so we we still have the power like voucher by voucher to go between 90 and 110.

3:22:28

No, once we set the payment standard for that zip code, that's the highest subsidy level.

3:22:32

But the amount of rent that can be approved is on a unit by unit basis.

3:22:37

That's that subsidy level doesn't say that the landlord can't ask more than that amount in rent, but that requirement that that the way that the voucher works is the client's gonna pay 30% of their monthly adjusted income plus any amount that exceeds that payment standard, and that combined can't exceed 40 percent.

3:22:56

Okay, so sometimes when they ask for more than the payment standard, because maybe their unit actually deserves it, um, it may make it so that particular unit isn't available to that household because they have very low income to support that overage.

3:23:10

So it is on a unit by unit basis where we determine the maximum amount of rent by comparing that unit to three comparables as close as we can um comparables to ensure we're not overpaying in rent.

3:23:24

Okay.

3:23:25

Okay.

3:23:25

All right, thank you.

3:23:27

Allie, maybe the question's for you.

3:23:29

Just how much uh money from the federal government exactly goes into housing vouchers?

3:23:36

Sure.

3:23:36

The program combined with housing assistance and admins about 25 million dollars.

3:23:41

And that hasn't uh, you know, a 1.2 to 1.5 economic impact to our community.

3:23:46

So it's it's a tremendous program for our community.

3:23:51

Thank you for being good stewards of the 25 million dollars to help families in need.

3:23:57

I see no further questions for staff.

3:24:00

We'll open it up for public comment.

3:24:04

I see no one from the public.

3:24:05

I'll bring it back to the bench.

3:24:08

With that, I will move that the Wichita Housing Authority Board approve the 2026 payment standard schedule for the housing choice voucher program to be effective on January 1, 2026 for all new housing assistance payments contracts and annual re-examinations effective thereafter.

3:24:31

Second.

3:24:32

Motion and a second, any further discussion.

3:24:35

I see none.

3:24:36

Madam Clerk, please open the roll motion passes 7-0.

3:24:51

Madam Clerk, please call the next item.

3:24:55

Combined public hearing 2026 annual agency plan and 2026 to 2030 capital fund grant five-year action plan.

3:25:04

Well, good afternoon, Mayor, members of council, Sally Stang with the Housing and Community Services Department for the record.

3:25:10

The item I have for you today is that 2026 annual agency plan and capital fund estimated budgets.

3:25:19

So public housing authorities are required to prepare an annual agency plan every year and a five-year plan every fifth year, which was completed last year.

3:25:28

Currently, the housing authority has 157 units that changes daily.

3:25:33

So actually, I think it's 156 since this was put together, as we're selling off those public housing units.

3:25:39

And 3,501 housing choice, emergency housing vouchers, and mainstream vouchers in the portfolio.

3:25:46

Our jurisdiction includes Sedgwick County, Butler County, and Harvey County outside of the city of Newton.

3:25:52

The annual agency plan documents include method of rent calculation, general operating policies and procedures, and a stable statement of capital improvements.

3:26:03

The capital fund program provides funding for capital improvements to those public housing units only.

3:26:10

So we have a rigorous plan schedule.

3:26:13

We're required to have a 45 public review and comment period.

3:26:17

We published the plan on August 22nd, 2025, and that public comment period ends today with this public hearing.

3:26:24

We conducted a resident advisory board review on September 18th.

3:26:30

We have had difficulty year after year trying to get participants to participate in a standing RAB board, so we invite every participant in both programs to participate in that meeting.

3:26:43

Then we have the combined public hearing today, and we have until October 18th to submit the plan to HUT.

3:26:51

The public housing program continues to sell off those single family homes from its portfolio.

3:26:56

Once they're all sold, the public housing program will terminate.

3:27:01

Sales proceeds will fund the any new, it can be any new Section 8 project-based voucher assisted housing, including the permanent supportive housing on the second length campus.

3:27:12

The construction for the RAD conversion of the four multifamily senior properties concluded in 2025.

3:27:20

As the final project, Greenway Manor received its C of O and will be fully leased by year end.

3:27:26

We're very excited.

3:28:03

And 917 households came from homelessness.

3:28:48

And then I've provided a listing of all of the agencies and programs that we're partnering with to provide case management for all of those folks.

3:28:59

So Congress appropriated level funding from 2024 to 25 for housing assistance payments and administrative fees.

3:29:07

Level funding, although not a cut in funding, does not account for those rent and utility cost increases, which results in the reduction in the number of families that can be served.

3:29:17

Jean touched on this, right?

3:29:19

January 1st, 2024, we had just under 3100 people being assisted.

3:29:24

And on September 1st of 25, it was 2,716.

3:29:28

And that's just because of rent increases and utility expense increases.

3:29:33

That's a reduction of nearly 400 families from the program and a reduction of 26,747 per month in administrative fees to support staff administering the program.

3:29:46

The proposed THUD budgets from the House and the Senate right now, proposed drastic cuts to the housing choice voucher administrative fees up to 43%.

3:29:57

So we see the House at 16% at 43%, the Senate at 16%.

3:30:02

It's gonna land somewhere in between.

3:30:04

So if we're talking, even if it lands at 20%, that's one in five.

3:30:09

So not in a good position right now.

3:30:12

So some just some highlights.

3:30:14

We promoted self-sufficiency, that's always one of our goals, and we increased our family self-sufficiency program participation by 12%.

3:30:21

We had 143 housing choice voucher and public housing participants participate in the individual and family development program in 2024.

3:30:31

In 2024, 156 youth participated in the Way to Work Summer Youth Employment Program from those programs.

3:30:41

And to date, we've been awarded in 2025 an additional 28 tenant protection vouchers to replace some of the public housing units, and we are expecting another 68.

3:30:52

The emergency housing voucher program has been fully utilized since early 2022, and it was given a utilization percentage in one of the top 10 in the nation, which we are very proud of.

3:31:04

Foster use to independence program assisted 20 persons who aged out of foster care in the past five years.

3:31:11

The HCV homeless preference enabled 488 persons to secure permanent housing since January 2020.

3:31:19

And the program conducted landlord outreach and provided fair housing training to 51 individuals at the Wichita Housing Conference in April 2025.

3:31:28

So proposed changes in the Section 8 administrative plan.

3:31:34

We are proposed to update the PHA policy requirements for the HPP preference to ensure there's a case management commitment.

3:31:41

All documents to determine eligibility are provided, and a written commitment from a landlord.

3:31:52

If you remember back in December, the council approved the ERA bridge program.

3:31:58

It was at a time when we had no vouchers to issue, and we prioritized all of those referrals that were on the waiting list for a homeless preference voucher to be paid out of ERA funds.

3:32:10

Staff spent months going through 238 referrals to only have 23 Lisa.

3:32:17

23, months and months of time trying to determine eligibility.

3:32:22

We are required, especially for homeless preference, to follow the same regulations in contacts and eligibility.

3:32:30

Unfortunately, that just cost harm to people who are waiting and waiting.

3:32:36

So our reasoning behind making sure we have a commitment that when we receive a referral, it's actually going to go to a housing placement.

3:32:45

The next one is HUD is eliminating the EHV funding.

3:32:49

When that was issued in 2021, the grant agreements included funding through 2030.

3:32:56

HUD came out about six months ago and said that's being cut off in 2026.

3:33:02

And so, in order to not terminate the assistance of those persons who are currently housed under EHV, adding a preference that will allow them to convert to a regular voucher.

3:33:15

A new homeless preference for the home TBRA program.

3:33:19

This will ensure that persons assisted under the home TBRA direct to housing encampment decommissioning pilot project can continue to receive rent assistance if needed.

3:33:29

This council with the annual action plan for the community development program set aside funding so that we had a new source of funding to try and house people directly from encampments.

3:33:42

The challenge is that's one year funding.

3:33:44

And we're oftentimes dealing with with folks that have been on the streets for many years, and only having one year of funding could cycle them back to homelessness if we don't have a path for those who need it after that first year.

3:34:00

Due to the executive orders related to the DEI references, the refugee referral preference is being removed.

3:34:07

And those families can be referred and served under the homeless preference program as they meet HUD's definition of homeless.

3:34:14

And referrals will continue to be received from the International Rescue Committee who is being connected to the continuum of care.

3:34:22

Voucher terms and extensions.

3:34:24

We've updated the policy to cover regulatory changes, mandating that the initial voucher term for mainstream and foster youth vouchers be 120 days.

3:34:34

No choice there.

3:34:35

We've updated the PHA policy chart to indicate that the City of Wichita ID can be used to determine legal ID for adults.

3:34:43

Enforcing owner compliance, clarifying updated added language to clarify in the policy that we have no choice but to abate housing assistance payments that are not corrected within 24 hours for exigent health and safety items or 30 days for all other deficiencies, even if the deficiencies are caused by the tenant in accordance with the federal regulations.

3:35:08

We added the ability to use other resources to perform that rent reasonableness review.

3:35:14

We use we subscribe to a service.

3:35:16

Sometimes they don't have accurate or enough comparables.

3:35:21

The way our policy was written in the past, we only use that service.

3:35:25

We're just adding that flexibility that we can use other methods to find comparable units in cases when we can't.

3:35:32

We ran across that this year with the Affordable Housing Fund.

3:35:38

Large enterprises purchased multiple public housing properties, six bedrooms.

3:35:43

We couldn't find enough six bedrooms to do comparables.

3:35:47

So it caused a little bit of a challenge.

3:35:51

We have updated the are recommending updating the policy to enter into memorandums of understandings with agencies to provide referrals for the mainstream voucher program.

3:36:00

Mainstream vouchers is a separate source of funding.

3:36:04

They're very specifically for people that are non-elderly, non-disabled, with first priority to those who are Medicaid waiver eligible.

3:36:13

So these are folks that might be going into assisted living without having another potential resource when they are able to have independent living.

3:36:23

Just solidifying that the agencies will enter into an MOU to provide those referrals.

3:36:29

Updated the PHA policy to indicate that submission of the request for tenancy approval documents must be complete and only fully completed packets are going to be processed.

3:36:39

Getting partial process just causes headache and chaos.

3:36:44

Updating a repayment policy.

3:36:46

Previously, our repayment policy, now someone goes into repayment when they didn't timely report a change in their income.

3:36:53

We are mandated to have them pay that money back.

3:36:56

That was overpaid on their behalf.

3:36:59

Our previous policy said if they were late, they were terminated.

3:37:04

Now we're saying, okay, let's at least, if you pay it off, we don't necessarily have to terminate it.

3:37:10

So then we added multiple changes throughout the project-based voucher chapter that were regulatory, but then we also added the project-based voucher exhibits for the 11 contracts that we executed in 2025, aligning with that affordable housing fund.

3:37:25

So you'll see that in there.

3:37:51

And then more recently, on 10.2, we received the letter from the coalition to end homelessness in Wichita Sedgwick County with comments regarding the plan.

3:38:01

Based on the coalition's comments, several non-substantive changes to verbiage have been made to further clarify policy or typographical errors, and those responses were sent to you on Friday.

3:38:14

Based on the coalition's comments, that we recommend one substantive change to the to the plan that wasn't part of what was originally published, and that is to retitle the limited referral-based homeless preference to just limited referral-based preferences, and increase the cap from 15 to 20%.

3:38:35

This would include taking referrals for people who are literally homeless, formerly homeless under the move on strategy, re-entry transitional housing move on strategy, and FYI from FSS.

3:38:48

Our reasoning behind that is we as a PHA have to address multiple priorities in the community.

3:38:57

And to not want to be able to assist, for example, URM's re-entry program because they don't meet the definition of homeless, I think it is an error, right?

3:39:08

If people have finished a program like that coming from Department of Corrections, we don't want them to turn around after six months and end up on the street.

3:39:23

The other is we are really prioritizing the move on strategy.

3:39:26

People in a move on strategy are not literally homeless right now, but the idea is if we move them on to a mainstream to a voucher that opens up a spot in that permanent supportive housing program that has identified wrap around intensive services.

3:39:42

So being able to move someone into a voucher that is sitting in a permanent supportive housing slot will actually then open up that slot behind them, right?

3:40:00

Because the voucher program, funding we get from HUD for administrative fees, does not include case management, and we don't have the capacity to be able to provide case management for 452 homeless preference persons.

3:40:08

So a response to each comment was sent to the coalition yesterday.

3:40:12

Um we do have to cover the as the uh the Wichita Housing Authority is disposing of all of its public housing units, we are not expecting any 2026 to 2030 capital fund grants.

3:40:24

So that one was easy.

3:40:27

There is no impact to the general fund.

3:40:30

Um development and submittal of the annual agency plan and capital fund program five-year plan is required by federal regulation to continue to see program funding.

3:40:41

So it is recommended that the Wichita Housing Authority Board close the combined public hearing on the Wichita Housing Authority 2026 annual agency plan and 2026-2030 capital fund five-year action plan, approved the plans with any amendments made during the public hearing and authorize the necessary signatures to certify the documents for submittal to the US Department of Housing and Urban Development.

3:41:03

And I stand for any questions.

3:41:05

Thank you, Sally.

3:41:06

Councilmember Hoheisel.

3:41:08

Thank you, Mayor.

3:41:09

Um couple of questions here.

3:41:11

How many home TBRA vouchers total in this plan compared to last year?

3:41:19

Well, the home TBRA comes out of community develop the community development funds.

3:41:23

We just received the grant agreements for those CD programs about three weeks ago, and we are just starting to launch the home TBRA program.

3:41:32

We put 1.7 million dollars in home funds aside.

3:41:35

That is enough for just under 300 individuals to be housed.

3:41:40

How much is that compared to last year's?

3:41:42

We have never done home TBRA before.

3:41:45

This is definitely a new venture.

3:41:47

Okay.

3:41:48

Um how do we advertise this?

3:41:50

Is it just typical the plan?

3:41:53

Yeah.

3:41:54

Yes, no, well, we're not allowed to use for this in particular.

3:41:57

Very specifically, we can't use Wichita.gov as the the city's official newspaper.

3:42:02

So but although we did publish it there too.

3:42:05

Um we did publish it on Wichita.gov.

3:42:07

We put ads in the paper in Butler County, Harvey County, as well as the Wichita Eagle.

3:42:13

It was sent out through the coalition's bi weekly newsletter.

3:42:19

We held a meeting on 9.2.

3:42:22

We attended the coalition's general membership meeting and did a presentation.

3:42:27

That presentation was then sent out to everyone on their distribution list on 9.4, and then it was again on nine two weeks, the next two week cycle.

3:42:37

So it has definitely been out there.

3:42:40

Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

3:42:42

Yesterday we have been uh receiving, I think at least two dozen emails.

3:42:48

26?

3:42:49

Yeah, since since last night asking about this and also asking us to delay.

3:42:55

Um what you said there's a hard deadline of October 18th to submit this with a delay put that in jeopardy?

3:43:04

Yes.

3:43:05

Okay.

3:43:06

Um you give me the cut the HUD definition of homeless.

3:43:12

It's actually very, very long.

3:43:16

It is actually very, very long.

3:43:18

Um, as far as the voucher program, we don't define that in the plan because we rely on the coalition, not only the our local, not only the Cedric County Coalition, but the balance of state coalition.

3:43:28

So those who get referred under the homeless preference have to be in the HMIS system and put in there by those two organizations for us to consider them for the homeless.

3:43:39

Okay, so that's just straight homeless, that's not in danger of becoming homeless.

3:43:44

Correct.

3:43:44

This is look correct.

3:43:46

Okay.

3:43:46

We are not talking at risk of homelessness at this point.

3:43:49

Okay.

3:43:49

Um, is there an increase in administrative um funding here?

3:43:54

I you talked about 17 to 43 percent reduction.

3:43:59

Yeah, no.

3:43:59

So we're we're just trying to ride that out the best we can.

3:44:03

That's exactly right.

3:44:04

And that is some of why some of the changes that we're recommending is we are anticipating that coming.

3:44:09

It's hard enough now.

3:44:10

You know, HUD HUD issues, they determine what our administrative fees.

3:44:14

Now, mind you, we only get paid the day somebody moves in.

3:44:18

So all of that pre-work, we get nothing from anywhere for that pre-work.

3:44:23

So we are paid an administrative per unit rate for each unit under contract on the first of the month.

3:44:28

If someone moves in on the second, we don't get paid for that one.

3:44:30

If they never move in at all, we never get paid for anything associated with that.

3:44:34

And they set that dollar amount up, but then each year Congress and the appropriations is never enough to pay it, and so it gets prorated.

3:44:43

So we get a prorated amount.

3:44:45

We've been operating at between 88 and 90 percent for the last couple of years.

3:44:50

Now what will happen, depending on what appropriations it's gonna be set at, you know, potentially 16 to 43 percent proration brought down.

3:45:00

So no, there's no additional money coming in, and we're trying to adjust for dealing with operating this program, even more lean.

3:45:08

So when you referred to the almost 300 vouchers that we had tried to get people in last year, and we had success with 23.

3:45:15

23.

3:45:16

Yeah, it was 238, and we 23 actually leased up.

3:45:19

So did we ever get compensated for the other-three.

3:45:23

Just the 23, despite all the work that we put in with that.

3:45:26

Correct.

3:45:29

Okay, I that's all I have for now.

3:45:33

Councilmember Johnson.

3:45:34

Thanks, Mayor.

3:45:35

Thank you, Sally.

3:45:36

One question.

3:45:38

Every time housing comes up, I look for various conflicts.

3:45:42

And in this, there's one document that says approving this plan would assign a one preference point to home TBRA.

3:45:52

So does that mean I should abstain from this?

3:45:56

No.

3:45:57

You shouldn't because it has nothing to do with the home funding.

3:46:00

The home, right, the home development funding at all.

3:46:04

Okay.

3:46:04

Yeah.

3:46:04

Cool.

3:46:05

Great question.

3:46:06

Hadn't thought of it.

3:46:08

Councilmember Hoys.

3:46:09

Thank you, Mayor.

3:46:10

Yeah, that uh led me to another question.

3:46:12

So that one point extra that would still mean that any of these vouchers of the if you are actually homeless, you would be moved to the front of the line in regards or more likely to be moved to the front of the line in regards to receiving any vouchers.

3:46:28

Right.

3:46:28

So the that's what a preference point does.

3:46:30

So we have other we do have other preference.

3:46:32

We have the residency preference, we have displaced by government action preference.

3:46:36

Those are that go really across the spectrum for even general applicants.

3:46:42

Under the homeless preference, or now what I'm proposing to say, the limited referral-based preference, um, you get an extra point that pops people to the top of the list.

3:46:52

In a lot of that feedback, and you saw that multiple questions where it was said they want us to reinstate the ability to refer people that aren't the move on.

3:47:01

Well, the the plan didn't restrict that.

3:47:04

That is was still included in the plan was the ability for referrals to be received from people who are literally homeless.

3:47:12

Just needing that have to have you know case management commitment, have to fill out the documents and have a unit identified.

3:47:19

So it is still, and that was you know, we we thought about that, and you know, the the other one uh I'll be is uh you know, this request to have the referrals come from coordinated entry.

3:47:30

Well, that causes a challenge because it it actually puts more burden and it it limits our ability to address someone who may not be chronically homeless or the priority of the COC because the COC's priority and I get it, is to address those who are most in need, right?

3:47:50

And so, but the problem is when we're only concentrating on the top 10 or 20 on the list, that means we're just waiting for all the hundreds behind them to become homeless long enough or sick enough to become chronically homeless so we can focus on them.

3:48:06

We want to make sure we have an available resource.

3:48:09

If someone has the appropriate level of case management, which was also brought up, we don't define that.

3:48:14

Um to be stably housed, we want to be able to move as many people out of homelessness, whether they're super chronic and at the top or not.

3:48:24

And that's why we want to make sure that we have that flexibility in place.

3:48:29

Um, each individual's needs for case management are different.

3:48:33

It could be six weeks, it could be six years.

3:48:36

Every person we're addressing has different needs and a different level of case management, and we don't even pretend to try and set that, right?

3:48:44

That is up to their case manager to determine.

3:48:47

So, how long would you have to be technically homeless to um qualify for the the voucher under what we currently have?

3:48:55

Well, they would have to be homeless, confirmed homeless by one of the agency providers who get the CAS and consent forms, get them entered into the HMIS system and conduct the assessment to be placed on the community queue, which means there are that's the by name list, the list of known persons experiencing homelessness in our community right now.

3:49:17

That's the level that we set.

3:49:18

We verify that's where they are.

3:49:21

So they could be homeless for a month and beyond there.

3:49:24

Okay, I know there are some standards of where it's like a year before you're eligible for the year.

3:49:29

That's the chronic homeless.

3:49:30

So in order to be chronically homeless, you have to have a year's worth of homelessness, right?

3:49:35

It can be it can be broken up, it can be four episodes in the last two years, and have a disabling condition.

3:49:41

And a lot of our programs do focus on those who are chronically homeless.

3:49:45

And and trust me, my heart is there.

3:49:46

We want to be able to help those who are chronically homeless, but I can't we can't do it at the detriment of just waiting for others to become chronic before we have resources to assist.

3:49:57

Okay, so what other programs are you talking about?

3:50:00

Does that include other vouchers as well?

3:50:01

It includes the COC funded the programs that receive funding directly from HUD under the continuum of care.

3:50:08

So those are permanent supportive housing programs.

3:50:11

We also have them internally.

3:50:12

So our housing first program, which started out just as the city and the county funded program to provide rent and utility assistance for people who were chronically homeless.

3:50:22

We expanded that.

3:50:23

We applied for COC funding because we identified we had a lack of case management, right?

3:50:28

And that we could leverage the voucher program to expand that from serving 64 individuals a year to 100, right?

3:50:36

Because we can leverage those resources, bring in more case management under that COC program.

3:50:42

That one still takes referrals from coordinated entry for people who are chronically homeless, but I'll tell you right now, we have 16 slots and no referrals.

3:50:51

That's unfortunate.

3:50:53

But we are bound to that because of the way that program is designed.

3:50:58

There are other programs funded throughout our community under the COC, and that list of programs is actually on the coalition's website of each of those programs that are designed specifically for permanent supportive housing for chronically homeless.

3:51:14

Okay, they get the additional point for being homeless.

3:51:17

What's the score matrix?

3:51:19

Is that one of a hundred?

3:51:21

So yeah, they um they get one point for residency, they get 10 points if it's displaced by government action, right?

3:51:28

That's to really move them to the top of the list because some things we have never had to invoke that.

3:51:34

Um we haven't had a situation where the government has actually displaced folks like that.

3:51:41

Um we have 10 points actually for the uh FYI from FSS to make sure that they're coming to the top.

3:51:49

The family at the foster youth to independence program, although a great program because there's a need, the regulation state you can only provide assistance for three years, and then you terminate them.

3:52:02

Um I'm sorry, you take an 18 to 24 year old who's come from the foster care system and say, get your life completely together in three years, it's a stretch.

3:52:11

They've added a caveat that said, if you if they're involved in the family self-sufficiency program, we can go five years, right?

3:52:19

That referral is for if if someone sometimes we can't convince them on day one, year one to join FSS, right?

3:52:27

Right.

3:52:27

We want to be able to let continue the rent assistance if they're actively involved in the family self-sufficiency program, and that's that one, and it's it's just a different level.

3:52:37

Where we're talking and where we're hearing pushback is there's an extra, so there's a homeless preference, there's an extra point, which would give them two points if they're the home TBRA or the housing first evolution referrals, because both of those, well, housing first evolution was designed, it's COC application was designed to leverage those vouchers.

3:53:00

Um home TBRA, I don't want a bunch of people that we just housed from encampments fallen off because they can't get through the process to keep them stably housed.

3:53:10

So they would then get two points.

3:53:13

So in the future.

3:53:15

What are we going to do with encampment decommissioning?

3:53:19

Well, it's are we looking to increase that in future plans depending on how these trials go?

3:53:25

This is a this is a definitely a pilot.

3:53:27

Um, the other challenge is appropriations.

3:53:30

So the house budget bill says eliminate home.

3:53:33

Well, if it eliminates home, that's our only resource.

3:53:36

If we see this to be greatly successful, we could come back in next year's annual action plan for the CD programs and say, do you want to add more money to this potentially to the spot?

3:53:48

Now 1.7 million is more than an annual allocation.

3:53:52

We only had enough to do that this year because the COVID slow.

3:53:56

We had way fewer developments happening, which we fund out of home, which caused us to have enough money to pool to be able to do this pilot program.

3:54:07

We would have to cut the funding if if they came back and didn't eliminate home and just cut it, which is what I think they're gonna do if I had to guess, knock on wood, that's what you know what's gonna happen.

3:54:18

We would then have to cut money from either the housing development program, like the Mennonite builds and the habitat builds, things like that, or like the the bigger rental bills, like we uh allocated funding for the Commonwealth Ark River Residences Project or the Down Payment Assistant, it's gotta come from somewhere.

3:54:37

Okay, thank you.

3:54:41

I just have one question.

3:54:42

Yep, slide 202.

3:54:44

Yep.

3:54:49

Are you guessing number of case managers or individuals served?

3:54:53

Individuals.

3:54:56

So the number comes out to be about 550-ish.

3:55:01

Can you tell me where the remaining, I guess, individuals are?

3:55:07

I'd have to actually investigate that.

3:55:12

Also VA, something's wrong here because VA on your slide shows 299 on our green sheet.

3:55:21

VA shows nine.

3:55:23

Oh, actually, if you look on your sheet, it was a weird how it printed, you'll see it says 29, and then the nines below it on the green sheet.

3:55:30

It's it's like the margins, there was something strange with the margin.

3:55:34

So it's 299, 299.

3:55:36

Catholic charities is 11, then.

3:55:38

Right.

3:55:39

Thank you very much.

3:55:42

I see no further questions for Sally.

3:55:45

We'll now open it up for public comment.

3:55:53

Uh Stephen Maud, 540, uh 540, East 21st Street North.

3:55:58

Uh I really appreciate the work that she's doing there.

3:56:00

I think that's an incredible program.

3:56:02

However, do have a couple of questions uh and concerns.

3:56:05

I want to make sure that as she mentioned, selling off the public housing.

3:56:08

Uh I want to make sure that there is a sign uh that we're not selling too many of them to corporate entities or large-scale entities, real large-scale real estate entities, as that's a problem across the United States right now, which is an increasing house uh housing issue where these companies are creating essentially monopolies in certain areas, or they're usually subsidiaries to get around monopoly laws to then increase this issue, increasing their rent at an expense exponential rate, far beyond the essential need of the rent increase to match inflation or any crisis in costs.

3:56:39

Uh we need to ensure that we are not creating more issues for this community by allowing them to buy up these properties without locals partaking in this.

3:56:49

Additionally, like she mentioned, there is a significant shortage of staffing.

3:56:52

Um, and I think additional funding being provided in some way for them to have that staffing they need to manage these cases.

3:56:59

Like uh Councilmember Hullhousle can mention there's a significant lack of people being uh addressed as they need to be with those first 20 on the list being addressed.

3:57:08

Personnel is just a huge problem across the board, and as we're seeing an increase of joblessness in general across the country, where now jobless people are you know outpacing the available jobs in the country, we need to create more available options, and so having some of those options can also help people in this program as well find something to work on.

3:57:26

Thank you.

3:57:28

Councilmember Hoheisel.

3:57:30

Thank you.

3:57:31

Thank you, Mayor.

3:57:32

Uh, just a couple of quick things.

3:57:34

I believe most of the homes that we are selling are going for um affordable housing programs or have affordable housing requirements with them.

3:57:42

Uh there are a chunk of houses that we are just putting on the market because they're so dilapidated that um they're not even eligible for the investment that we put into many of these homes.

3:57:54

Uh Sally, you might touch on that just a little more.

3:57:57

You're more in tune with that than I.

3:57:59

Yes.

3:58:00

Um, about a half to a little over half of the units that have been sold have been sold under the affordable housing fund or with other other restrictions that require them to stay affordable for a period depending on if it's rental or um home ownership.

3:58:16

Others have gone out on the open market.

3:58:18

We're not seeing because it's it's pretty interesting.

3:58:21

It's about 50-50 um owner-occupant versus LLC or you know, some sort of other ownership.

3:58:29

Um we actually provide a preference for owner occupants in those sales in that uh a 10% difference in the the um the purchase bid.

3:58:40

So we will decline a little bit more money from uh uh you know a proposer in order to get an owner-occupant in.

3:58:48

So we're trying to be very thoughtful on how we make these units available in the public, trying to retain affordability as much as we can.

3:58:57

And then we get to reinvest the proceeds into new affordable housing.

3:59:01

All right, thank you.

3:59:02

Thank you.

3:59:03

I'll ask you that question just a little bit more so people kind of understand.

3:59:07

In the consent agenda today, we passed nine uh homes that were sold either at or above the appraisal value.

3:59:15

And again, those dollars come back to help more individuals that are needing that assistance, including the new build that will be at second light to provide affordable housing.

3:59:26

Correct.

3:59:26

Um so again, new units with uh wraparound services nearby.

3:59:31

So I really appreciate what you're doing, being really good stewards of those dollars.

3:59:36

Thank you.

3:59:51

Good after almost afternoon.

3:59:53

Uh Brock Booker for the record, um, 912, South San Pablo Lane.

4:00:01

Just wanted to touch on a few things that were mentioned that were of concern.

4:00:09

One was that the resident advisory hadn't met in a while.

4:00:16

That's a concern.

4:00:18

This is somewhat of what we see nationally is an emergency and needs to be treated as such.

4:00:26

Are there any reserve funds that could go to alleviate the stress in the system?

4:00:34

I get a lot of calls from seniors and veterans in the way of, of course, transit, but this is about housing.

4:00:44

I've been in touch with people with Justice Together and that group.

4:00:50

And they've talked a lot about a fund for housing in this way.

4:00:56

And so we need further collaboration and a task force, perhaps.

4:01:03

Something that I feel is needed in a task force would be that's not how do I want to say politically motivated.

4:01:15

Many people have expertise, but we get caught up in the back and forth of who they were appointed by or through.

4:01:27

So those are some things that I think that the city could look at in the future, hopefully.

4:01:34

Thank you.

4:01:38

We'll continue with public comment.

4:01:41

I see none.

4:01:42

I'll bring it back to the bench.

4:01:44

I will go ahead.

4:01:48

Oh, do we have one more?

4:01:50

Sorry.

4:01:55

Sorry, Mayor, I wasn't quick enough on the draw there.

4:01:58

Uh my name is Cole Schneiders for the record.

4:02:01

I live at 1707 South Mosley Street, District 3.

4:02:05

Um thank you, council, for giving the chance to give public comment.

4:02:09

Um for those of you that may not know me.

4:02:12

I um work for the coalition in homelessness in Wichita Sedgwood County, and we've mentioned a couple times up here by public staff and in the plan explicitly.

4:02:20

Um so while I'm not representing the coalition today because I don't have that authority, I'm speaking as a community member and someone who's in the mix with the coalition board.

4:02:30

Um this the coalition is made up of nonprofits across the community, essentially the entire homeless services system, um, which includes the city of Wichita and the county government and how we as a community are addressing homelessness.

4:02:47

Um we, in addition to our 21 members, we also have a 19-person board, which includes Sally Stang, who um did her job and did and it did not uh comment on the letter that we sent on behalf of the coalition to this council.

4:03:02

So she did her job, no worries there.

4:03:06

I want to start by saying I'm very appreciative to the Wichita Housing Authority City Council for being so focused on helping us in homelessness.

4:03:15

It is very, very unusual when I talk to my um colleagues and other communities to have a public housing authority that A plays a role in ending homelessness, or B, even understands they have a place in ending homelessness, or C even does things like the homeless preference program.

4:03:33

Forgot what we're calling it now, but um that set aside a voucher just for folks experiencing homelessness.

4:03:39

It is very, very rare, and so I do want to commend our housing authority for being playing such an active role in helping us address homelessness.

4:03:48

As mentioned in the staff presentation, the coalition did submit a staff letter in the slides.

4:03:54

It was uh mentioned that most of our changes or all of our comments were mostly typographical, non-substantive changes.

4:04:00

Um those were the comments that were accepted.

4:04:03

Uh, we made several additional comments again on behalf of the full coalition and all of our member agencies.

4:04:10

Um these uh these changes were really made in good faith.

4:04:16

This is not a process the coalition has engaged with in the past.

4:04:19

We've just been grateful for the the changes that this the county council has made for us.

4:04:24

Um but we were invited by housing staff and by them coming to our uh one of our regular meetings to provide public comment on this plan.

4:04:33

And so I wanted to just ensure that the council saw that we did issue public comment, um, and several of the comments that we made, in my personal opinion, were not uh addressed substantively.

4:04:46

Um these suggestions suggestions included a removal of the special preference points for home Tibra Housing First, clarifications on case management commitment requirements, which is often a barrier to some of our nonprofits for knowing can I actually commit my case manager to partner with the city?

4:05:06

Changes to improve leaseups, which we know has been a sore point for the city and a sore point for me.

4:05:11

My job's to end homelessness, not let it keep happening and let vouchers go to waste by partnering with the coordinated entry system.

4:05:18

And it also some of our changes include ensuring that the eligibility for moving on is not made so narrow that we aren't actually able to serve those people who the coalition can't serve because of our federal guidelines.

4:05:51

If we use the metric as uh described for the homeless moving on preference, that they need to have low or medium barrier access or case management needs, they're not going to be served.

4:06:03

We're gonna have people that we don't have any resource for other than short-term rental assistance that as Sally mentioned.

4:06:10

Sometimes if you just pay for someone's rent for six months, that doesn't mean they're gonna stay in housing permanently.

4:06:18

The through line really was we wanted to make sure that housing authority as well as the coalition was in dialogue.

4:06:27

We are working together to make this program work for everyone.

4:06:30

Um, unfortunately, just the nature of the timelines and requiring public comment.

4:06:35

Dialogue is not really uh the nature of the beast, so you know it it might just pass today as written.

4:06:42

And we're gonna be thankful for it passing as written.

4:06:45

Um, however, just an example of as written the uh I guess I'm almost out of time, so I will stop instead of continue to speak.

4:06:57

Thank you all.

4:06:58

Cole, I'll ask you one question.

4:07:00

Um, I know that housing has done uh a lot regarding collaboration, and so I know that this has a limited time frame because of the feedback that needs to come back within uh so many days.

4:07:14

However, that door of communication is open, I believe.

4:07:18

Um so have those conversations not been had in the past, and you all now are considering these conversations because I believe that Sally has been at the table.

4:07:33

So I'll get your perspective and then ask for Sally's perspective.

4:07:36

Sure, yeah.

4:07:37

The city council, which the housing authority has invited us to these tables, and many times it hasn't been necessary for us to say anything because the city was doing the right thing.

4:07:48

When we analyze our system, and that's my job for the coalition is to analyze and improve our system over time.

4:07:55

Um, you know, I we decided as a coalition that we needed to make some suggestions for changes.

4:08:02

Um those were after conversations with Sally, those were after conversations with um with uh our board with other community members and stakeholders.

4:08:11

So we have been part of the process.

4:08:13

However, the public comment process, this is the first time we've engaged in that, at least since I've been with the coalition for about four years now.

4:08:30

Uh yeah, thank you, Mayor.

4:08:31

Uh yes, serving on the board every year.

4:08:34

I've opened it up to the board to say that the plan is published.

4:08:38

We're accepting public comments.

4:08:40

Aside from that, we actually have a standing bi-weekly meeting with the coalition staff to talk through because these are complicated programs.

4:08:48

We run like 14 different ones that touch homelessness.

4:08:50

They all have different rules, not necessarily ones that we invoke, um, but we try to be as creative as we can with the funding that we have so that we can have the biggest impact, and that can mean things can get a little bit challenging.

4:09:04

Um we actually met with the coalition planning folks from United Way on the 18th of August before publishing the draft to get their feedback before we even put the draft out on August 22nd.

4:09:19

So, yes, we try, and it is it's always ongoing.

4:09:22

I guarantee you, me and my staff have daily conversations with the COC members.

4:09:30

Councilmember Ho Heisel.

4:09:32

Thank you, Mayor.

4:09:33

Uh, thank you, Cole, for coming up and uh chatting about this with us.

4:09:38

Is your main point of contention simply um just adding the language that opens it up to people falling into homelessness as well as homelessness?

4:09:50

So that point was listed within the coalition's letter.

4:09:55

That was a misunderstanding on our part.

4:10:00

Um we met as providers after the city staff presented to us, and we mistakenly understood what was presented to us as a removal of the if you're literally homeless, you can apply for a Section 8 voucher.

4:10:10

Misunderstanding on our part, and so it was addressed by the city, and we appreciate that they helped to clear that up for us.

4:10:17

Okay.

4:10:18

I appreciate that.

4:10:19

Thank you.

4:10:21

Thank you.

4:10:23

I see no further public comment, so I will close public comment and bring it back to the bench.

4:10:32

I see none of oh, Councilmember Hoheisel.

4:10:36

Sorry, Mayor, thank you, Mayor.

4:10:37

Uh, just a quick comment.

4:10:39

Um, I know one thing that is difficult, especially now today's age, is communication with people, especially at arrested parties.

4:10:47

So hopefully in the future we are able to communicate better and open up for dialogue before we're you know, kind of under the gun here to pass a plan.

4:10:57

So I do hope that we can look at ways to improve that process in the future.

4:11:05

With that, I'll add a couple comments and just say thank you to the housing staff.

4:11:10

Again, you're trying very hard to utilize these funds uh appropriately, but also maximize them so that you can help the most amount of individuals who are needing that assistance.

4:11:23

And so I appreciate seeing all these collaborative partners, uh, the agencies that have case management, and I continue to uh share United Ways resource guide, which is available every new quarter.

4:11:38

Uh they share a one-pager, and for those that don't know where it's at, just Google United Way of the Plains 211, and you can see the updated list.

4:11:49

I am very appreciative that this community has a lot of really giving people that support these nonprofits and continue to help those most in need, and then utilize federal dollars through housing to help individuals have that space.

4:12:09

So, with that, I will move that the Wichita Housing Authority Board close the combined public hearing on the Wichita Housing Authority 2026 Annual Agency Plan and 2026-2030 capital fund program, five-year action plan, approve the plans and authorize the necessary signatures to certify the documents for submittal to the U.S.

4:12:34

Department of Housing and Urban Development.

4:12:38

Second.

4:12:38

Motion and a second, any further discussion.

4:12:41

I see none.

4:12:42

Madam Clerk, please open the roll.

4:12:47

Motion passes 7-0.

4:12:49

Madam Clerk, please call the next item.

4:12:53

DER 2024-14 City Council policy number nine update.

4:13:03

Hello, Scott Waidell from the planning department.

4:13:06

So this is an item as you heard to consider proposed updates to the existing city council policy number nine.

4:13:12

So the recommended action is that you approve the uh recommended policy number nine changes.

4:13:18

In terms of background, this item came about because of questions from elected officials about why cases generally considered not to be controversial were on the city council agenda as non-consent items.

4:13:30

Please know that there are two factors that largely guide where planning items are placed on the city council agenda.

4:13:36

Those are policy number nine, and then the second one is the general practice that has evolved over time.

4:13:44

Policy number nine was first adopted in 1986, which was a great year.

4:13:49

I think we had back to the future.

4:13:51

Um it was most recently updated in 1996, so I believe that was also another great year.

4:13:57

Um so it's been almost 30 years since that's been addressed.

4:14:02

In terms of the existing policy, uh, and it it indicates city council does not hold public hearings on items that the MAPC has already held a public hearing for.

4:14:11

It also specifies what information will be provided to the city council as part of the agenda item, how the appeal process works, and how the CPO, which is now called DABS, uh works.

4:14:25

In terms of the current practice, uh now our practice, again, it's not written down, it's just evolved over time.

4:14:31

Is that staff submit planning items uh for the city for the council's planning non-consent agenda if there are any protests submitted against the application and or if the DAB and MAPC recommendations are different?

4:14:46

In terms of review for this, uh in November of last year, this topic was discussed at a city council workshop meeting.

4:14:53

In general, the impression that we had was that we were headed in the right direction with a few updates.

4:15:00

The council consensus seemed to be that there was a preference to hear cases if one or more protests were submitted within one thousand feet of the subject site.

4:15:08

So with that in mind, uh we went back and uh made some updates.

4:15:13

So the recommended changes would make a number of uh updates to the policy.

4:15:17

Here are some of those that are highlighted.

4:15:18

I'm not gonna read through those, but just want to make you aware.

4:15:23

In addition, the recommended policy would also update which types of planning items are covered by the policy.

4:15:30

And it would also clarify what constitutes a valid valid appeal of an MAPC recommendation.

4:15:41

The recommended updates would make it so that planning items covered by the policy would be placed on the city council consent agenda unless one or more of the following would apply.

4:15:51

And these are largely consistent with what uh is in the existing policy.

4:15:56

In addition, I want to note that staff work to incorporate the feedback from the council workshop.

4:16:01

And by having uh how we did it was by having the distance be the notification area.

4:16:06

So instead of a thousand feet, we use a distance that was already being calculated and associated with cases.

4:16:12

This would allow staff to utilize that already identified distance in order to help to make the process more efficient and more easily understood.

4:16:21

So again, the recommended action is that you would uh you would approve those updates, and just a quick note about process that this is not a zoning item, so I would recommend that the council accept public comments on it.

4:16:33

And with that, I'll stand for any questions.

4:16:36

Thank you, Scott.

4:16:37

Questions for staff.

4:16:39

I see none.

4:16:41

We'll not open it up for public comment.

4:16:43

We'll just keep it here.

4:16:45

Yes, we do actually open it.

4:16:47

We'll open it up for public comment.

4:16:51

We'll bring it back to the bench.

4:16:53

Councilmember Tuttle.

4:16:55

Thank you.

4:16:56

Scott and JR and your team.

4:16:58

I have been asking for this for a bit.

4:17:00

Um I'm excited to see these changes made.

4:17:03

I think it'll just provide more consistency.

4:17:05

Um it'll make it easier.

4:17:07

So um thank you for for you know listening and and working through some of my concerns.

4:17:12

I'm sure other council members did too.

4:17:14

So thank you for all your efforts on this.

4:17:18

With that, would you like to move this item?

4:17:21

Councilmember Tottle.

4:17:22

Thank you.

4:17:23

I would very much appreciate the opportunity to do so.

4:17:26

With that, I would enthusiastically move that the city council approved the proposed changes to City Council policy number nine.

4:17:33

Second.

4:17:34

Motion and a second.

4:17:35

Any further discussion?

4:17:37

I see none.

4:17:38

Madam Clerk, please open the roll.

4:17:44

Motion passes 7-0.

4:17:46

Madam Clerk, please call the next item.

4:17:49

Councilmember appointments and comments.

4:17:53

Start with appointments.

4:17:55

Any appointments, council members.

4:17:58

I see none.

4:18:00

We'll now move to council member commons.

4:18:03

Councilmember Hoheisel.

4:18:05

I will make this quick.

4:18:07

Um this Saturday at the Child Advocacy Center at 9 30 in the morning.

4:18:13

Uh, we will be having my district breakfast, the best breakfast in Wichita, which this week I will be cooking along with some of our firefighters.

4:18:21

Um, but we will be discussing improvements at the Folum Firefighter Memorial Park.

4:18:27

Um I invite anybody who wants to come down and have a good breakfast, come on down for a good discussion.

4:18:35

Uh we were out there the uh Sunday actually for the firefighter memorial.

4:18:39

Always a moving um a moving time whenever we see that and hear the names of the people who have ultimately paid the ultimate price for um taking care of us.

4:18:51

So uh again, uh shout out to all the firefighters out there, past and present for everything they do, and please come on down and we'll discuss ways that we can properly honor them moving forward.

4:19:02

Thank you.

4:19:03

Councilmember Johnson.

4:19:05

Thanks, Mayor.

4:19:06

Um, just wanted to highlight the firefighter memorial on Sunday and say to my colleague, I appreciate your efforts on the firefighter memorial park.

4:19:15

And so far, so good.

4:19:20

I see no further comments.

4:19:22

I will move to adjourn.

4:19:25

Second.

4:19:25

Motion and a second.

4:19:26

Any further discussion?

4:19:28

I see none.

4:19:28

Madam Clerk, please open the roll.

4:19:33

Okay.

4:19:34

Motion passes five to two.

4:19:37

Have a great week.

4:20:00

Wow.

4:20:04

Hello?

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Summary of Proceedings

Wichita City Council Regular Meeting Summary – October 7, 2025

The Wichita City Council met in regular session on October 7, 2025, convening at 9:00 AM and adjourning at 1:03 PM. All seven council members were present. The meeting featured several public comments, approvals of consent items, discussion and votes on multiple business items, including a loan extension for the Starlite Drive-In, a tax exemption for Spirit AeroSystems, two appeals of the Historic Preservation Board, and approval of the Housing Authority's annual plan.

Consent Calendar

  • Approved the minutes of the September 23, 2025 meeting (7-0).
  • Approved Consent Agenda items 1 through 25, excluding item 5a (7-0). These included routine licenses, preliminary estimates, design agreements, property acquisitions, assignments of bonds, and sales of city-owned housing.
  • Item 5a (Golf Board of Governors Minutes): Pulled by Vice Mayor Johnston for discussion on tee time availability. The discussion highlighted public frustration with limited access due to standing tee times held by private leagues. Staff acknowledged the issue and are exploring a new booking system and reviewing league policies as part of the Park Master Plan. The item was subsequently approved (7-0).

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Lisa Frey Blume (Bike Walk Wichita): Presented a road safety assessment for the 1st/2nd Street and McLean Blvd intersection, urging the city to prioritize upgrades due to nearby bridge construction, Exploration Place expansion, and pedestrian traffic. She suggested a traffic circle as a potential solution.
  • Ronald Neagle: Urged the council to publicly disclose any planned or ongoing collaborations with federal immigration enforcement (ICE) and to allow public comment prior to entering such agreements. Council Member Johnson noted long-standing partnerships with federal agencies exist but are unrelated to immigration.
  • Steven Ahmad: Called for the immediate cancellation of the city's Flock Safety camera contract, citing high costs ($5 million annually), privacy violations involving facial recognition, and documented law enforcement misuse of the system in other jurisdictions.
  • Chelsey Portillo & Lizel Wright (Unscheduled): Spoke about the conflict in Gaza, describing it as a genocide and calling on the city to take a stand. Council Member Johnson acknowledged the tragedy.
  • Steven Ahmad (on VI-8 & VI-13): Commented on the Spirit AeroSystems tax exemption, requesting median wage reporting and a lower abatement rate. On the BNR bid, he recommended withholding overestimate funds until project completion.
  • Sam Sackett (on VI-9): Spoke as a neighbor supporting the restoration of 1416/1418 Park Place, but asked the council to maintain pressure on owners to ensure timely exterior work.
  • Lizel Wright (on VI-9, VI-11): Supported saving the historic property at 1416/1418 Park Place. On the Ablah House, she expressed concerns about altering historic structures but acknowledged the property owner's urgent need to stop water damage.
  • Brock Booker (on VIII-2): Raised concerns about the lack of recent Resident Advisory Board meetings and called for a housing task force and reserve funds.
  • Cole Schneiders (Coalition to End Homelessness, on VIII-2): Commended the Housing Authority but stated several substantive comments from the Coalition were not addressed in the annual plan. Council Member Hoheisel committed to improving future communication.

Discussion Items

  • Starlite Drive-In Loan Extension (VI-1): Council approved a six-month moratorium on a $200,000 city loan due to summer storm damage. Council Member Glasscock expressed concern about repeated extensions but supported it due to the personal guarantee. The loan originates from District 3's portion of Hyatt Regency hotel sale proceeds.
  • Spirit AeroSystems Tax Exemption (VI-8): Council approved a second five-year 100% property tax abatement. Spirit representatives reported hiring continues, aiming for 600 additional workers by year-end, and discussed the nearly $100 million incremental economic impact generated, despite not meeting original job targets due to the 737 grounding and COVID (designated as an economic downturn).
  • Condemnation of 1416/1418 N Park Place (VI-9 & VI-10): Council removed the historic duplex from condemnation consideration after new owners cleaned the property, paid owed taxes, and initiated a restoration plan involving historic tax credits. Staff committed to swift re-condemnation action if exterior progress stalls.
  • Ablah House Awnings Appeal (VI-11): Council voted unanimously to override the Historic Preservation Board and approve the building permit for blade-style awnings. The owner argued the board's preferred scaffolding and tarps would cost $50,000 more than his $20,000 design. Multiple council members called the HPB's request "out of touch" and apologized for delays worsening water damage.
  • Bridge Inspections (VI-3): Council approved funding for biennial bridge inspections and a progressive design-build project for repairs. Mayor Wu inquired about using drone technology for future bridge inspections.
  • Wichita Ice Center Compressor Failure (VI-12): Council ratified an emergency $60,128 compressor replacement under a public exigency to avoid cancellation of rink events. Ongoing litigation related to original equipment failure was noted.
  • BNR Plant 1 Overestimate Bid (VI-13): Council accepted a $12.2 million bid for an odor control project, which was 12% over the initial estimate. Staff assured the project remains within the overall $387 million budget due to savings on other project packages.
  • Council Policy #9 Update (X-1): Council approved updated rules for placing planning items on the consent or non-consent agenda, using notification boundaries instead of a fixed 1000-foot distance.
  • Housing Authority Plans (VIII-1 & VIII-2): Approved the 2026 Housing Choice Voucher Payment Standards and the 2026/2030 Annual/Five-Year Agency Plans. Staff detailed challenges from flat federal funding, rising rents, and efforts to adjust administrative procedures.

Key Outcomes

  • Approved Starlite Drive-In Loan Extension (7-0) – Six-month payment moratorium granted.
  • Approved Bridge Inspection and Repair Contracts (7-0) – $2 million in local sales tax funding.
  • Approved Police Protective Equipment Budget (7-0) – $1.1 million in general obligation bonds.
  • Approved Spirit AeroSystems Tax Exemption (7-0) – Second five-year 100% ad valorem tax abatement.
  • Removed 1416/1418 N Park Place from Condemnation (7-0) – Returned to regular code enforcement.
  • Overrode Historic Preservation Board on Ablah House Awnings (7-0) – Building permit allowed.
  • Ratified Ice Center Compressor Replacement (7-0) – $60,128 expedited repair.
  • Approved BNR Plant 1 Overestimate Bid (7-0) – $12.2 million bid accepted.
  • Approved Housing Authority Payment Standards & Agency Plans (7-0) – Effective January 1, 2026.
  • Approved Council Policy #9 Update (7-0) – Revisions to placement of planning items.
  • Adjourned at 1:03 PM (6-1) – Council Member Brandon Johnson dissented.

Meeting Transcript

By the way, it's much cheaper. I thought it was cherry something. Good morning, City of Wichita staff. Can you please roll the video? Thank you for attending today's city council meeting. Please take a moment to silence your mobile device. If you wish to speak on an agenda item after the mayor invites public comment, proceed to the podium, state your name and address, and you will be given five minutes to speak. A timer can be viewed on the podium screen. You may speak one time per agenda item. Please refrain from clapping after other speakers. Let's pause a moment for our television audience to join us. Please join me in a time of meditation. Almighty, we give thanks. Thanks for the gentle rain falling early this morning that prepares us for the winter ahead of us. Thanks for the warm fall days that make our hearts sing. They just sing with joy. We give thanks for the people who are in this room and the many in all the buildings and places where Wichita's employees do their jobs who are dedicating their lives to leading and working to carry out the city's mission to be a place where life unfolds for the better. We give thanks for the citizens who are here today. We give thanks for the dedication of our leaders here for remembering those who for whom life is hard and to have a passion to put in place ways forward for those who find life hard. We are blessed to be in a city where the people, leaders, and residents alike recognize the beauty and value of all of our residents, rich and poor alike. Today, as this council begins its daily deliberations, we pray for guidance that actions taken reflect the often spoken desire to make this city the best place it can be, providing a good place to work, live, play, and a place to give thanks for all residents rich and poor. So may the council begin the day with a heart for creating a place full of justice, opportunity, and peace. May the needs of the many be balanced and affirmed in the deliberations taken today. So be it. Thank you. I fled allegiance to the flight of the United States of America. And to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Pastor Goldtree. Madam Clerk, can you please call the first item? Approve the minutes of the regular meeting, September 23rd, 2025. Council members, any items to be edited. I see none. I move to approve the minutes for the regular meeting for September 23rd, 2025. Second. Motion and a second, any further discussion? I see none. Madam Clerk, please open the roll. Aye. Motion passes. Seven seven zero. Madam Clerk, please call the next item. Awards and proclamations. Today's proclamations are National Arts and Humanities Month, Woktober, Family Promise Week 2025, and Fire Prevention Week. May I please ask the representatives for City Arts and Councilmember Tuttle and Councilmember Glasscock, who serves on the Wichita Art Museum Board. Good morning. Good morning, Shane. Good morning. Thank you all very much for attending this morning's City Council meeting. I will read the proclamation.

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