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Wilmington City Council Agenda Briefing Meeting – March 3, 2025

City Council & Planning CommissionMonday, March 3, 2025
BodyWilmington, North Carolina
SessionCity Council & Planning Commission
DateMonday, March 3, 2025
StatusFILED
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Transcript — Verbatim
0:02

Call the meeting to order.

0:03

I'm gonna take a roll call at this time.

0:06

Mayor Pro Tem Councilman Ravenmar.

0:10

Councilmember Spears.

0:13

Councilmember Spears.

0:15

Councilmember Waddell.

0:17

Councilmember Andrews.

0:18

Here.

0:18

Councilmember Joyner.

0:20

Here.

0:20

And the chair is here.

0:23

We have um presentation tomorrow evening.

0:26

Name and women's history month and the Clean Energy Advisory Committee annual report.

0:30

David Ingram will be doing that.

0:32

Consent agenda is approval of the minutes.

0:36

Resolution authorized city manager to enter into a golf cart lease agreement in the amount of 332,347 with Club Car LLC for carts at the Wilmington Municipal Golf Course.

0:50

Resolution authorized city manager to retire police canine officer Jacko and to transfer Officer Jaco to Police Corporal David Gergas.

1:02

Public information, public hearings, ordinance granting a special use permit for residential courtyard development located at 5651 Greenville Loop Road.

1:16

We have a resolution authorizing city of Wilmington to participate in the commercial property assessed capital expenditure, better known as C PACE program.

1:28

We have an ordinance amending the official zoning map of the city of Wilmington to rezone property containing 0.69 acres located at 4717 College Acres Drive from R5 C D medium density mixed residential district conditional district to C B C D community business conditional district for commercial parking lot.

1:49

We have an ordinance amending the official zoning maps of the city to rezone property containing 6.12 acres located 5601 only in the drive from CB Community Business District to RB, C D to Regional Business District Conditional District for Commercial Recreation Center.

2:08

We have an ordinance amending the official zoning maps of the city of Wilmington to rezone property containing 0.14 acres located at 102 and 104 Mir Street from R3 medium high density mixed residential district to UMX urban mixed use district.

2:24

We have an ordinance amending the official zoning maps of the city of Wilmington to rezone property containing 4.19 acres located at 6624 and 6710 Market Street from R 10 Moderate Density Single Dwelling District to RB Regional Business District.

2:40

Mr.

2:40

Mayor?

2:41

Yes, yes, sir.

2:42

Um you moved too quickly for me this morning.

2:45

Uh PH1 uh will be moved from this meeting probably till the June, one of the June meetings.

2:53

Uh the project was not right for uh decision making at this point in time, so it'll be moved.

2:58

Is this the property located at 5651 Greenville Loop?

3:02

Yes, sir.

3:02

Okay.

3:05

All right.

3:06

Ordinances, uh ordinance making supplemental appropriations, the amount of 20,000 to the special purpose fund for the National Recreation and Parks Association and Nike Incorporated Gender Equality Equity and Youth Sports Grant.

3:21

And then we have an ordinance making supplemental appropriations in the amount of 172,690 dollars to the special purpose fund for an energy efficiency and conservation block grant awarded by the United States Department of Energy.

3:35

And then we have a resolution authorizing the award of a fleet electric vehicle transition strategy contract in the amount of 99,866 to ICF Incorporated LLC.

3:50

And then we have an ordinance making supplemental appropriations in the amount of three million dollars for the South 16th Street multi-use path in the streets and sidewalk fund, and then we have a resolution authorizing city manager to enter into a supplemental agreement with the North Carolina Department of Transportation to accept 2,400,000 in surface transportation block grant direct attributable funds with the required local match of 600,000 for the South 17th Street multi-use path project.

4:22

Mr.

4:22

Rambar.

4:23

I don't know who to direct this to.

4:25

I'll start with you, Tony.

4:26

I'd like to discuss this uh the spot that we're doing.

4:31

Um go ahead with your question.

4:35

Rachel McIntyre will be here to answer specific questions.

4:40

We we are constantly looking for ways to fill in gaps with our two comment, ma'am.

4:48

How are you?

4:50

Uh what my issue is we're you know, we we don't struggle.

5:00

We pick and choose places where we put these things, and I don't know if this has got some kind of high priority to it in in the eyes of the city, but we're constantly looking for ways to fill in gaps where we've got sidewalks coming up, and then there's that gap, and we got goat paths that we're all constantly looking at to fill in.

5:13

This looks like uh a solution where they're I mean it it's going to be standing out there all by itself until we do north or south or or whatever.

5:25

Can you can you enlighten me a little bit as to why this particular stretch um well as you mentioned it is part of the regional plan, it will tie in with future paths that are planned.

5:44

Um additionally, this area has a lot of transit, so it's helping reach um way of transit stops.

5:53

Um this has been this project has been in the step um for a while.

5:59

But it's like walking down the road, and all of a sudden there's a there's a sidewalk and it goes to an intersection that I wouldn't want to cross.

6:09

It the project will include uh pedestrian improvements at shipyard and 17th.

6:14

Um so it will get you across shipyard.

6:16

There is housing on that side that I believe is tied with sidewalk that's there currently.

6:23

Okay.

6:29

Yes, ma'am, there is uh just it just the reinforcements here.

6:34

Morning, Denise.

6:36

Good morning.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Engineering And Infrastructure█████████████████████████████████████████████66%
Historic Preservation█████████13%
Procedural██████9%
Active Transportation███5%
Community Engagement███4%
Pending Litigation2%
Funding1%
Summary of Proceedings

Wilmington City Council Agenda Briefing Meeting – March 3, 2025

This agenda briefing, held at 8:30 a.m. in City Hall Council Chambers, was convened to review items scheduled for the March 4, 2025 regular council meeting. The meeting lasted approximately one hour and three minutes, adjourning at 9:33 a.m. Notable items included the postponement of a special use permit, a discussion of the South 17th Street multi‑use path project, and extensive debate over a proposed resolution supporting a 100‑foot fixed‑span replacement for the Cape Fear Memorial Bridge. No votes were taken during this briefing.

Consent Calendar

  • The consent agenda was presented without individual discussion. It included approval of minutes, a golf‑cart lease agreement ($332,347 with Club Car LLC), retirement and transfer of police canine Officer Jacko, a resolution authorizing the city’s participation in a C‑PACE program, and several zoning ordinances.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • William Stolz (Executive Director, Historic Wilmington Foundation) spoke in favor of the 100‑foot fixed‑span bridge (Alternate C) for the Cape Fear Memorial Bridge replacement. He stated that Alternate C is the most cost‑effective option and least impactful to Wilmington’s Historic District, citing NCDOT cost estimates: $255 million for a 65‑foot bridge, $452.9 million for a 135‑foot bridge, and their belief that a 100‑foot bridge would be closer to $255 million. He noted that NCDOT has not released an estimate for the 100‑foot bridge. He also mentioned that a 100‑foot bridge would accommodate all existing recreational and commercial vessels based on the June 2024 Navigation Impact Report, and that a 135‑foot bridge could require tolls.
  • Trevor Carroll (Division Engineer, NCDOT Division 3) and Landon Zimmer (Board Member, NCDOT Division 3) provided technical background. Mr. Zimmer stated that the proposed resolution’s claim that a 100‑foot clearance “would sufficiently meet current and foreseeable maritime needs” is in direct conflict with NCDOT’s navigation impact study (Section 18), which found that 100 feet does not meet current navigational guidelines. He cautioned that passing the resolution could jeopardize the $242 million federal grant awarded in July 2024, which was based on a 135‑foot fixed‑span option. Mr. Carroll explained that the three options were part of the required federal “merger process,” and that the 100‑foot option was listed as “100 feet ± 35 feet” to allow flexibility. He stated that design has not been finalized and that the true alignment and height will be determined after environmental studies are completed.
  • Sylvia Kochler (Board Member, Historic Wilmington Foundation) countered that she has been told by NCDOT that the $242 million grant is not contingent on any specific height and can be used for any of the three options. She argued that the public interest is best served by a 100‑foot bridge because it is cheaper, quicker to build, and causes the least environmental and historic‑district damage. She also stated that the navigation impact report supports the 100‑foot clearance for current vessel traffic.

Discussion Items

  • South 17th Street Multi‑Use Path Project (Items O3a/O3b) – Councilmember Rivenbark questioned why this specific stretch was prioritized, noting the cost of $2,400,000 in federal funds with a $600,000 local match. Project Manager Rachel McIntyre and Division Engineer Denise Freund explained that it is part of a regional plan, serves high‑transit areas, includes pedestrian improvements at Shipyard Boulevard and 17th Street, and is identified in the Walk Wilmington Plan as a high‑injury‑network intersection. They noted that constructing the full path as one project would cost $10‑15 million and require longer funding timelines. Councilmember Rivenbark expressed concern about piecemeal sidewalk projects amid other high‑priority needs.
  • Cape Fear Memorial Bridge Replacement Resolution (Item R1) – The resolution, brought forward by Councilmember Andrews, would express city support for a 100‑foot fixed‑span replacement. A lengthy discussion ensued among council members, NCDOT officials, and Historic Wilmington Foundation representatives. Key points:
    • Positions for 100‑foot bridge: Historic Wilmington Foundation advocated for Alternate C, citing lower cost ($255 million estimate), minimal historic‑district impact, and avoidance of tolls. They argued that the federal grant is flexible and that a 100‑foot bridge meets navigational needs.
    • Positions cautioning against the resolution: NCDOT representatives stated that a 100‑foot bridge does not meet current navigation guidelines, that the federal grant application was based on a 135‑foot option, and that putting “a stake in the ground” could jeopardize funding and close off options. They emphasized that environmental and historic impact studies are still ongoing.
    • Legal/liability concerns: Councilmember Waddell and Mayor Saffo raised the issue of condemnation if a lower bridge restricts navigation rights of upriver property owners (including the City of Wilmington). Mr. Zimmer confirmed that reducing the 135‑foot maritime right would likely involve condemnation and potential litigation.
    • Funding timeline: The environmental studies must be completed by September 2026 per the federal grant. The Army Corps of Engineers’ permit decision is expected in spring 2025.
    • The Council did not take a vote on the resolution; it remained scheduled for the March 4 regular meeting.

Key Outcomes

  • Postponement of Item PH1 (Special Use Permit for 5651 Greenville Loop Road) – Moved to a June 2025 council meeting because the project was not ready for a decision.
  • No consensus on bridge resolution – After extensive discussion, council members indicated they would review the provided navigation impact report and consider further input before the March 4 meeting. NCDOT agreed to share the report with council members.
  • Clarification on funding – NCDOT reiterated that the $242 million grant is tied to the 135‑foot option, while Historic Wilmington Foundation asserted the grant is not height‑contingent. The conflicting positions were noted.
  • Instruction to NCDOT – Councilmember Waddell requested a copy of the navigation impact report and asked NCDOT to clarify which entity originally proposed the 100‑foot ± 35 option.
  • Next steps – The March 4 regular council meeting was scheduled to include the bridge resolution on its agenda for possible action.

Meeting Transcript

Call the meeting to order. I'm gonna take a roll call at this time. Mayor Pro Tem Councilman Ravenmar. Councilmember Spears. Councilmember Spears. Councilmember Waddell. Councilmember Andrews. Here. Councilmember Joyner. Here. And the chair is here. We have um presentation tomorrow evening. Name and women's history month and the Clean Energy Advisory Committee annual report. David Ingram will be doing that. Consent agenda is approval of the minutes. Resolution authorized city manager to enter into a golf cart lease agreement in the amount of 332,347 with Club Car LLC for carts at the Wilmington Municipal Golf Course. Resolution authorized city manager to retire police canine officer Jacko and to transfer Officer Jaco to Police Corporal David Gergas. Public information, public hearings, ordinance granting a special use permit for residential courtyard development located at 5651 Greenville Loop Road. We have a resolution authorizing city of Wilmington to participate in the commercial property assessed capital expenditure, better known as C PACE program. We have an ordinance amending the official zoning map of the city of Wilmington to rezone property containing 0.69 acres located at 4717 College Acres Drive from R5 C D medium density mixed residential district conditional district to C B C D community business conditional district for commercial parking lot. We have an ordinance amending the official zoning maps of the city to rezone property containing 6.12 acres located 5601 only in the drive from CB Community Business District to RB, C D to Regional Business District Conditional District for Commercial Recreation Center. We have an ordinance amending the official zoning maps of the city of Wilmington to rezone property containing 0.14 acres located at 102 and 104 Mir Street from R3 medium high density mixed residential district to UMX urban mixed use district. We have an ordinance amending the official zoning maps of the city of Wilmington to rezone property containing 4.19 acres located at 6624 and 6710 Market Street from R 10 Moderate Density Single Dwelling District to RB Regional Business District. Mr. Mayor? Yes, yes, sir. Um you moved too quickly for me this morning. Uh PH1 uh will be moved from this meeting probably till the June, one of the June meetings. Uh the project was not right for uh decision making at this point in time, so it'll be moved. Is this the property located at 5651 Greenville Loop? Yes, sir. Okay. All right. Ordinances, uh ordinance making supplemental appropriations, the amount of 20,000 to the special purpose fund for the National Recreation and Parks Association and Nike Incorporated Gender Equality Equity and Youth Sports Grant. And then we have an ordinance making supplemental appropriations in the amount of 172,690 dollars to the special purpose fund for an energy efficiency and conservation block grant awarded by the United States Department of Energy. And then we have a resolution authorizing the award of a fleet electric vehicle transition strategy contract in the amount of 99,866 to ICF Incorporated LLC. And then we have an ordinance making supplemental appropriations in the amount of three million dollars for the South 16th Street multi-use path in the streets and sidewalk fund, and then we have a resolution authorizing city manager to enter into a supplemental agreement with the North Carolina Department of Transportation to accept 2,400,000 in surface transportation block grant direct attributable funds with the required local match of 600,000 for the South 17th Street multi-use path project. Mr. Rambar. I don't know who to direct this to. I'll start with you, Tony. I'd like to discuss this uh the spot that we're doing. Um go ahead with your question. Rachel McIntyre will be here to answer specific questions. We we are constantly looking for ways to fill in gaps with our two comment, ma'am. How are you? Uh what my issue is we're you know, we we don't struggle. We pick and choose places where we put these things, and I don't know if this has got some kind of high priority to it in in the eyes of the city, but we're constantly looking for ways to fill in gaps where we've got sidewalks coming up, and then there's that gap, and we got goat paths that we're all constantly looking at to fill in. This looks like uh a solution where they're I mean it it's going to be standing out there all by itself until we do north or south or or whatever. Can you can you enlighten me a little bit as to why this particular stretch um well as you mentioned it is part of the regional plan, it will tie in with future paths that are planned.

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