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Wilmington City Council and Planning Commission Joint Special Session - October 6, 2025

City Council & Planning CommissionMonday, October 6, 2025
BodyWilmington, North Carolina
SessionCity Council & Planning Commission
DateMonday, October 6, 2025
StatusFILED
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Transcript — Verbatim
0:02

Okay, I'm gonna call the Wilmington City Council special joint session meeting with the Planning Commission this Monday, October the 6th, 2025 into order.

0:14

And at this time I am going to have a roll call.

0:17

Mayor Pro Tem, are you here?

0:20

Okay, Councilman Reinbark, are you here?

0:22

Yes, sir.

0:22

Councilmember Spears, are you here?

0:25

Unfortunate.

0:26

Councilmember Waddell, are you here?

0:29

Councilmember Andrews, are you here?

0:31

Council Member Joyner, are you here?

0:34

And the chair is here.

0:35

So all of us are here and accounted for.

0:51

Commissioner Pollock.

0:53

Yes.

0:56

Commissioner Adams.

1:00

Commissioner Collier.

1:02

Here.

1:02

Here.

1:03

Commissioner Kofer is has a uh personal absence.

1:07

Uh Commissioner Jones and Commissioner Woodruff.

1:10

Here okay.

1:23

So the work disc session discussion topics are included in this agenda that we have before us.

1:30

Uh the role of the commission, the greater downtown plan, the upcoming land development code, LDC amendments to create Wilmington Comprehensive Plan update and other topics of interest between the council and the commission.

1:44

So I'm gonna turn this over to Linda because you're looking at me, so I think I'm gonna look turn it over to you and talk about the role of the commission.

1:55

And I know that we have our city attorney here that will correct us if we're uh bearing off base or if we got it wrong.

2:05

Good morning, everyone.

2:06

Mayor, mayor, pro tem, uh Chairman Lennon and Vice Chairman Adams.

2:12

Thank you for coming together this morning uh for this joint meeting.

2:15

In terms of the role of the commission, uh, that's actually something I'm gonna turn over to our commission members because when we sat down with the previous chair to I identify agenda topics, that was something that came up.

2:27

And so I'm gonna let I can I'll let them speak for themselves in terms of the conversation they want to have.

2:33

And as you know, you do receive recommendations from the commission uh on all rezoning applications, street closures, uh, and other other land use applications as well as land development code amendments.

2:45

The commission is also integral in our long-range planning efforts, and so that's one of the things that we can update you on this morning after you get through some of your other discussion items.

2:55

And with that, I'll turn it over to our commission members.

3:02

Okay, may I jump in real quick before that gets started?

3:06

This is this this format is not new.

3:10

We used to practice this on a regular basis in years gone by, and and there has been one instance in I think it was three or four years ago where the commission members at that time were a little bit, you know, I don't know what went down, but it was a little bit of gray area that we needed to get clear on as to exactly what the role of the commission was.

3:31

And and even there was some members on council that weren't really clear as to as to what their mission was.

3:37

And that was that was really the impetus.

3:39

I I've been asking for this meeting since all of 2025, and here we are today in October.

3:46

So I I hope that there is some good back and forth with the commission members as to what they think it should be and and hope how that can align with what we expect because I think that there's more on the plate of the planning commission than what we're seeing merely at not more so than just betting uh projects before we get them uh the land development code.

4:12

So with that said, have at it.

4:17

Not sure how to follow that, but um, but I appreciate it.

4:21

And I I would say uh I'll just start from my perspective.

4:26

I've always considered my service here as an advisory capacity to make a recommendation to approve or deny particular projects for council to ultimately vote on.

4:39

I think the other thing Linda touched on where I think the commission can be of benefit are in some of the long-range planning items and general zoning questions that come up within the city really because we're we're sort of the front line, so to speak.

5:00

Typically 200 people show up in front of us before they show up in front of you.

5:03

So we know kind of where some of the issues are and can help with council to that end.

5:10

By the same token, it's a I I appreciate these meetings because it's great to get feedback from council as to sort of what direction you all feel the city is heading in, particularly when it comes to zoning and land use.

5:24

Well, I've said it before, and I tell everybody uh that I run into when the subject of zoning and and our meetings come up.

5:33

Uh I've always been a uh the you guys are and we're the tip of the spear because you know it stops with us, but I don't know what we would do if it were not for the planning commission vetting those things.

5:47

I mean, we get all y'all kind of trim the fat or add to it or what have you before we get it, and that's extremely valuable.

5:54

But there's more to the planning commission, in my opinion, as it has been in in the past, than just vetting projects twice a month and and sending them to us.

6:05

And and and I don't know if that's something that this commission feels like that they they they would like to have more better seat at the table, if you will, or or just you're satisfied with you think that's just what the commission's role is is just vetting products but projects before they get to council.

6:25

Commissioner Pollard.

6:27

Yeah, um, to play off of that, the um, you know, and I'm the one that kind of drove this topic, so as Linda said, you know, um, that's how we got here.

6:37

And I focus really on the you know, the the some of the duties are pretty straightforward, but it's long-range plans and policies, and I and I'll I'll personalize it so you know all cards on the table.

6:50

You know, after spending you know 40 years doing strategic planning, financial planning, long-range planning, uh operational planning, not just domestically, but for customers, 55 countries across here.

7:04

I just want to take those skills and see if I can help the city because I I'm gonna be very honest.

7:11

I love being on this commission.

7:13

This is this is very, very interesting to me.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Downtown Planning█████████████████████████████████████████████52%
Public Engagement████████████14%
Community Engagement██████████12%
Zoning And Land Use████████9%
Planning Process Review██████7%
Procedural███3%
Transportation Safety███3%
Summary of Proceedings

Wilmington City Council and Planning Commission Joint Special Session - October 6, 2025

The Wilmington City Council and Planning Commission held a special joint session on Monday, October 6, 2025, starting at 3:15 PM. The meeting focused on clarifying the role of the Planning Commission, discussing upcoming Land Development Code (LDC) amendments, reviewing the Greater Downtown Plan, and previewing the forthcoming comprehensive plan update. No formal votes were taken, but consensus emerged on several key priorities and next steps.

Role of the Planning Commission

  • Commissioner Pollard initiated the discussion, emphasizing the commission's desire to contribute to long-range planning and strategic policy beyond the regular project vetting.
  • Council members, including the Mayor, affirmed the commission's critical advisory role and encouraged ongoing involvement in code review, process improvement, and public education.
  • Commissioner Adams stressed the importance of qualitative design considerations and "guardrails" in development decisions.
  • Several commissioners highlighted the value of including diverse professional perspectives on the commission and the need for sustained public engagement.

Land Development Code (LDC) Amendments

  • Staff presented two upcoming amendments: (1) a new food bank use category to allow such facilities closer to neighborhoods, and (2) an adjustment to the R3 district to permit townhomes without excessive minimum land area, addressing affordable housing goals.
  • Staff outlined plans for a spring 2026 cleanup package of minor code fixes and a winter 2026 amendment on conditional districts to provide more flexibility for successful businesses to expand without full rezonings.
  • The tree ordinance is under review in partnership with the Alliance for Cape Fear Trees (white paper "Code and Canopy"), with one identified issue: the critical root zone formula sometimes creates protection areas larger than the tree drip line.

Greater Downtown Plan

  • Travis Hemley, comprehensive planning manager, reported over 5,000 participants in the planning process, with roughly half via online surveys and half at pop-up events (e.g., Azalea Festival, Good Shepherd grocery giveaway).
  • The draft plan is organized into four themes: local character, economy, housing, and mobility. It replaces the Vision 2020, North Side, and South Side plans.
  • Implementation steps include LDC amendments tied to the plan and ongoing public engagement through pop-ups and reporting to sustain community trust.
  • Councilmember Waddell noted that addressing public safety and pedestrian improvements could address about 60% of concerns expressed in the plan’s engagement.

Comprehensive Plan Update

  • Staff presented projections showing continued population growth in the tri-county area (Brunswick, New Hanover, Pender) through 2060, with New Hanover leading but Brunswick catching up.
  • The updated comprehensive plan will include a transportation and mobility plan and a CAMA land use plan update (last done in 2006), as well as growth strategies for unincorporated areas to guide future annexations.
  • Mayor Saffo voiced frustration about regional commuters using city roads without contributing to city taxes, underscoring the need for regional planning and public education.

Other Topics

  • Commissioner Lennon noted that many public concerns about apartments could be framed as objections to "character of the neighborhood," a term that lacks a clear definition and can be subjective.
  • Council members and commissioners agreed on the importance of frequent, clear communication with the public, including using tools like Wilmington 101 and regular updates on plan implementation.
  • Several members expressed desire for future joint meetings to be held on a regular basis (e.g., twice a year) to maintain alignment.

Key Outcomes

  • No formal votes or resolutions were adopted.
  • Staff will continue LDC maintenance and bring forward the two amendments (food bank use and R3 district) at the November 5, 2025 council meeting.
  • The Greater Downtown Plan draft will be shared publicly in October 2025 for additional feedback, with final adoption expected after planning commission recommendation and council approval.
  • The comprehensive plan update will proceed, with an emphasis on regional engagement and growth strategies for areas outside current city limits.
  • Future joint meetings of city council and planning commission will be scheduled on a recurring basis, likely twice per year.
  • Staff will explore expanding administrative modification authority for conditional district site plans to provide flexibility for successful businesses.

Meeting Transcript

Okay, I'm gonna call the Wilmington City Council special joint session meeting with the Planning Commission this Monday, October the 6th, 2025 into order. And at this time I am going to have a roll call. Mayor Pro Tem, are you here? Okay, Councilman Reinbark, are you here? Yes, sir. Councilmember Spears, are you here? Unfortunate. Councilmember Waddell, are you here? Councilmember Andrews, are you here? Council Member Joyner, are you here? And the chair is here. So all of us are here and accounted for. Commissioner Pollock. Yes. Commissioner Adams. Commissioner Collier. Here. Here. Commissioner Kofer is has a uh personal absence. Uh Commissioner Jones and Commissioner Woodruff. Here okay. So the work disc session discussion topics are included in this agenda that we have before us. Uh the role of the commission, the greater downtown plan, the upcoming land development code, LDC amendments to create Wilmington Comprehensive Plan update and other topics of interest between the council and the commission. So I'm gonna turn this over to Linda because you're looking at me, so I think I'm gonna look turn it over to you and talk about the role of the commission. And I know that we have our city attorney here that will correct us if we're uh bearing off base or if we got it wrong. Good morning, everyone. Mayor, mayor, pro tem, uh Chairman Lennon and Vice Chairman Adams. Thank you for coming together this morning uh for this joint meeting. In terms of the role of the commission, uh, that's actually something I'm gonna turn over to our commission members because when we sat down with the previous chair to I identify agenda topics, that was something that came up. And so I'm gonna let I can I'll let them speak for themselves in terms of the conversation they want to have. And as you know, you do receive recommendations from the commission uh on all rezoning applications, street closures, uh, and other other land use applications as well as land development code amendments. The commission is also integral in our long-range planning efforts, and so that's one of the things that we can update you on this morning after you get through some of your other discussion items. And with that, I'll turn it over to our commission members. Okay, may I jump in real quick before that gets started? This is this this format is not new. We used to practice this on a regular basis in years gone by, and and there has been one instance in I think it was three or four years ago where the commission members at that time were a little bit, you know, I don't know what went down, but it was a little bit of gray area that we needed to get clear on as to exactly what the role of the commission was. And and even there was some members on council that weren't really clear as to as to what their mission was. And that was that was really the impetus. I I've been asking for this meeting since all of 2025, and here we are today in October. So I I hope that there is some good back and forth with the commission members as to what they think it should be and and hope how that can align with what we expect because I think that there's more on the plate of the planning commission than what we're seeing merely at not more so than just betting uh projects before we get them uh the land development code. So with that said, have at it. Not sure how to follow that, but um, but I appreciate it. And I I would say uh I'll just start from my perspective. I've always considered my service here as an advisory capacity to make a recommendation to approve or deny particular projects for council to ultimately vote on. I think the other thing Linda touched on where I think the commission can be of benefit are in some of the long-range planning items and general zoning questions that come up within the city really because we're we're sort of the front line, so to speak. Typically 200 people show up in front of us before they show up in front of you. So we know kind of where some of the issues are and can help with council to that end. By the same token, it's a I I appreciate these meetings because it's great to get feedback from council as to sort of what direction you all feel the city is heading in, particularly when it comes to zoning and land use. Well, I've said it before, and I tell everybody uh that I run into when the subject of zoning and and our meetings come up. Uh I've always been a uh the you guys are and we're the tip of the spear because you know it stops with us, but I don't know what we would do if it were not for the planning commission vetting those things.

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