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Wilmington Historic Preservation Commission Meeting - November 1, 2018

Historic Preservation CommissionThursday, November 1, 2018
BodyWilmington, North Carolina
SessionHistoric Preservation Commission
DateThursday, November 1, 2018
StatusFILED
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0:20

Test.

0:22

You could don.

0:46

Sorry.

0:48

All right, good evening, everybody.

0:50

I'd like to welcome you all to the this meeting of the historic preservation commission.

0:54

November 1st, 2018.

0:56

Uh hearings before the historic preservation commission are quasi-judicial in nature.

1:00

There's a design review process to determine if the proposed project is congruous with the historic aspects and special character of the historic district or landmark.

1:07

Decisions of the Commission are based on the record of these proceedings, the Wilmington design guidelines for historic districts and landmarks.

1:30

Public comment is heard during the public comment portion of the agenda item.

1:33

Those who want to address the commission are sworn as witnesses.

1:36

The chair recognizes those who want to address the commission during the public hearing.

1:40

Comments should be directed to the commission to ensure all comments are properly recorded, please come to the podium to address the commission, state your name and address to speak clearly.

1:48

This room is equipped with an assisted hearing system for people with hearing loss.

1:52

To use, please switch on the T coil on your hearing aid or ask city staff for assistance.

1:58

At this time, I would like to request that all cell phones be either turned off or put on silence mode.

2:02

Thanks.

2:11

All right, and this time we'd like to introduce uh our commissioners to introduce themselves.

2:15

Please start with you, Daniel.

2:17

Daniel Hill.

2:20

John Muzzy.

2:22

Caleb Rob Romero.

2:23

Marianne Cazar.

2:25

Joan Keston.

2:27

Michael Smith.

2:28

Yep.

2:29

And this is our new commissioner.

2:30

We'll s more swear him in soon, won't we?

2:32

All right, and there's uh Melissa Iverson Hales, our assistant city attorney.

2:35

Oh, that's wrong.

2:36

Uh Melissa Huffman, thank you.

2:39

And Don Snowley.

2:40

Joan and Cusa, city staff.

2:43

All right.

2:43

Uh would you like to swear in the people who would like to speak for us, Joan?

2:48

Um Mr.

2:49

Chairman, if we could, um go ahead and swear in the new reappointed commissioners as well as Mr.

2:55

Smith, who is a new appointee to the commission.

2:58

If I could get those members to rise.

3:00

Yep.

3:01

And Joan Mancuso will read the oath.

3:09

Okay.

3:10

I state your name.

3:14

Having been duly appointed a member of the Wilmington Historic Preservation Commission due somily and sincerely swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States, that I will be faithful and bear true alliance to the state of North Carolina and to the constitutional powers and authorities which are or may be established for the government thereof, and that I will endeavor to support, maintain, and defend the Constitution of said state not inconsistent with the Constitution of the United States to the best of my knowledge and ability.

4:00

All those that plan to speak this evening at the matters, please stand.

4:07

Raise your right hand.

4:16

And you've signed in to the sign in sheet.

4:18

Thank you.

4:20

Thanks, Joan.

4:20

And you ready, Don?

4:21

One other little note keeping matter.

4:23

If the three commissioners who just took their oath could stop by us on the way out so we can get your John Hancock on your oath statement.

4:41

Um the only items of business that the commission will be able to hear tonight are items one and two.

5:00

That will need to be reopened and closed, Mr.

5:02

Chairman.

5:03

So those who were not a party or went back and listened to the proceedings of 110 North 7th Street will not be able to participate in the consideration of that item.

5:16

I believe there's a couple commissioners here that applies to.

5:19

Mr.

5:20

Smith, it's my understanding that you went back and listened to the audio of the meeting.

5:25

So with that understanding and with the ruling from the assistant city attorney, you should be able to be involved in the deliberations of that item.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Historic Preservation███████████████████████23%
Fence Regulations██████████████████18%
Architectural Preservation███████████████15%
Window Regulations█████████████13%
Landscape Design██████████10%
Driveway█████5%
Zoning And Land Use█████5%
Procedural████4%
Parking Management████4%
Summary of Proceedings

Wilmington Historic Preservation Commission Meeting

November 1, 2018 | 5:30 p.m. | City Council Chambers

The Wilmington Historic Preservation Commission met on Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 5:30 p.m. in the City Council Chambers (noted as Skyline Center on the agenda but City Hall in the minutes). Vice‑Chairman Rob Romero presided in the absence of Chair Tara Murphy. The commission heard two continued old‑business items; new business was deferred to December 13, 2018 due to a publishing error. Oaths of office were administered to reappointed members Mary Ann Keiser and Joan Keston and new member Michael Smith.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • No members of the public spoke on either agenda item.

Discussion Items

1. 110 North 7th Street (HD) – New Construction

  • Continued from October 11, 2018. Applicant Gary Fossum (605 Chestnut Street) presented revised designs for a two‑story single‑family house and detached two‑story garage on a vacant lot (~66' x 154'). Revisions included roof pitch options (5:12 or 6:12), simplified porch balusters, and symmetrical front windows. The applicant expressed no preference on pitch. Commissioner Hill surveyed the historic district and found similar two‑story‑to‑one‑story transitions and compatible Craftsman elements. The commission favored the 6:12 pitch.
  • Key Outcome: Motion to approve with 18 conditions (including 6:12 roof pitch, 6" siding reveal, clear glass, silver screen, staff review of lighting/landscaping, tree protection, stormwater infiltration, replacement trees). Motion by Hill, seconded by Keiser. Passed 8‑0. Only commissioners who attended the October meeting (or listened to the audio, per attorney ruling) could vote.

2. 402 South 3rd Street (HD‑R) – Exterior Alterations

  • Continued from October 11, 2018. Applicant Scott Burns (402 S. 3rd Street) sought approval for after‑the‑fact replacement windows (2nd and 3rd floors), relocation and widening of the driveway from 10 to 18 feet, a low brick wall with iron fencing, a 6‑foot wood fence in the side yard, a koi pond in the front side yard, and a wooden arbor on the north elevation. The property is the 1887 McKoy House, a Stick‑style Queen Anne.
  • Windows: Staff noted the 3rd‑floor windows are aluminum‑clad wood 1‑over‑1, not the original 2‑over‑2 wood; 2nd‑floor windows are wood but may not match historic profiles. The commission denied the 3rd‑floor windows and delayed a decision on the 2nd‑floor windows pending an on‑site inspection by staff.
    • Key Outcome: Motion by Keston, seconded by Smith, to deny the after‑the‑fact 3rd‑floor windows and continue the 2nd‑floor window decision. Passed 8‑0.
  • Driveway: The applicant argued an 18‑foot curb cut was needed for side‑by‑side parking; staff and commissioners found it out of scale. The commission denied the request but stated it could be reconsidered with a future garage proposal.
    • Key Outcome: Motion by Keston, seconded by Keiser, to deny the driveway expansion. Passed 8‑0.
  • Fencing, Koi Pond, Arbor: Commissioners expressed concerns about the brick columns (too heavy), the koi pond in the front yard, and the lack of a complete site plan showing landscaping, the proposed garage, and pool. The commission opted to continue these items.
    • Key Outcome: Motion by Keiser, seconded by Keston, to continue the fencing, koi pond, and trellis to the December 13, 2018 meeting pending a full site plan including landscaping. Passed 8‑0.

Key Outcomes

  • Approved (8‑0): 110 North 7th Street – new construction with conditions, including 6:12 roof pitch.
  • Denied (8‑0): After‑the‑fact replacement windows on the 3rd floor at 402 South 3rd Street.
  • Deferred (8‑0): Decision on 2nd‑floor windows at 402 South 3rd Street pending staff inspection.
  • Denied (8‑0): Relocation and widening of driveway at 402 South 3rd Street (from 10 to 18 feet).
  • Continued (8‑0): Fencing, koi pond, and arbor at 402 South 3rd Street to the December 13, 2018 meeting, subject to a complete site plan.
  • All new business items (306 North 6th Street, 211 South 5th Avenue, minutes, items from commission/staff) were placed on the December 13, 2018 agenda due to a publishing error.
  • Meeting adjourned at 7:58 p.m.

Meeting Transcript

Test. You could don. Sorry. All right, good evening, everybody. I'd like to welcome you all to the this meeting of the historic preservation commission. November 1st, 2018. Uh hearings before the historic preservation commission are quasi-judicial in nature. There's a design review process to determine if the proposed project is congruous with the historic aspects and special character of the historic district or landmark. Decisions of the Commission are based on the record of these proceedings, the Wilmington design guidelines for historic districts and landmarks. Public comment is heard during the public comment portion of the agenda item. Those who want to address the commission are sworn as witnesses. The chair recognizes those who want to address the commission during the public hearing. Comments should be directed to the commission to ensure all comments are properly recorded, please come to the podium to address the commission, state your name and address to speak clearly. This room is equipped with an assisted hearing system for people with hearing loss. To use, please switch on the T coil on your hearing aid or ask city staff for assistance. At this time, I would like to request that all cell phones be either turned off or put on silence mode. Thanks. All right, and this time we'd like to introduce uh our commissioners to introduce themselves. Please start with you, Daniel. Daniel Hill. John Muzzy. Caleb Rob Romero. Marianne Cazar. Joan Keston. Michael Smith. Yep. And this is our new commissioner. We'll s more swear him in soon, won't we? All right, and there's uh Melissa Iverson Hales, our assistant city attorney. Oh, that's wrong. Uh Melissa Huffman, thank you. And Don Snowley. Joan and Cusa, city staff. All right. Uh would you like to swear in the people who would like to speak for us, Joan? Um Mr. Chairman, if we could, um go ahead and swear in the new reappointed commissioners as well as Mr. Smith, who is a new appointee to the commission. If I could get those members to rise. Yep. And Joan Mancuso will read the oath. Okay. I state your name. Having been duly appointed a member of the Wilmington Historic Preservation Commission due somily and sincerely swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States, that I will be faithful and bear true alliance to the state of North Carolina and to the constitutional powers and authorities which are or may be established for the government thereof, and that I will endeavor to support, maintain, and defend the Constitution of said state not inconsistent with the Constitution of the United States to the best of my knowledge and ability. All those that plan to speak this evening at the matters, please stand. Raise your right hand. And you've signed in to the sign in sheet. Thank you. Thanks, Joan. And you ready, Don?

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