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Wilmington Historic Preservation Commission Meeting - October 10, 2019

Historic Preservation CommissionThursday, October 10, 2019
BodyWilmington, North Carolina
SessionHistoric Preservation Commission
DateThursday, October 10, 2019
StatusFILED
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0:10

Hello, everybody.

0:10

I'd like to welcome you all to this uh historic preservation commission meeting for October 10th, 2019.

0:16

Hearings before the historic preservation commission are quasi-judicial in nature.

0:20

This is a design review process to determine if the proposed project is congruous with historic aspects and special character of the storic district or landmark.

0:27

Decisions of the commission are based on the record of these proceedings.

0:29

The Wilmington Design Guidelines for Historic District and Landmarks and the Secretary of the Interiors and Standards for Rehabilitation.

0:36

Evidence submitted to the Commission for review becomes part of the record.

0:39

Appeals of commission decisions are to the Wilmington Board of Adjustment and then to Superior Court and are based on the record.

0:45

Appeals must be filed within 30 days of date of the commission's action.

0:48

Public comment is heard during the public comment portion of the agenda item.

0:52

Those who want to address the commission are sworn as witnesses.

0:54

The chair recognizes those who want to address the commission during the public hearing.

0:58

Comments should be directed to the commission to ensure that all comments are properly recorded.

1:02

Please come to the podium to address the commission, state your name and address, and speak clearly.

1:07

This room is equipped with an assisted hearing system for people with hearing loss.

1:16

At this time, I would like to request that all cell phones be either turned off or put on silence mode.

1:20

Thank you.

1:21

And a reminder to commissioners, if you've been have received or been made aware of any outside evidence related to any of these matters, please recuse yourself.

1:29

And um Amy, we'd like to introduce our new commissioner first.

1:32

We have a brand new commissioner.

1:35

Do you want you want to get this morning?

1:41

I actually will send the point of a member of the Wilmington for the Commission.

2:27

Thanks, Ashley.

2:28

Welcome.

2:29

All right.

2:29

And I also like to introduce our staff, Don Snudley, Amy Bradshaw, Melissa Huffman.

2:35

And I'm I don't know you gentlemen, sir.

2:42

I'm Robert O'Quen.

2:43

I'm uh Don's intern.

2:44

Oh great.

2:45

Welcome.

2:45

Thanks.

2:46

All right, and would you like to swear in the other witness witnesses or other people here for us, Amy?

2:51

Yeah.

2:54

Mics work.

3:02

I like to use the mention that.

3:06

It's not on.

3:10

Yep.

3:15

Yep.

3:16

That's great.

3:16

Awesome.

3:17

Okay.

3:18

That mic's not working either.

3:19

You want to check that?

3:24

Okay, Amy, are you ready?

3:25

Go for it.

3:37

Do you apply to the question revenue about it?

3:42

I do.

3:43

Good.

3:43

I almost I almost forgot I'd like our commissioners to introduce themselves, please.

3:46

If you don't mind starting.

3:47

Hi, Stephen Salke.

3:49

Annual Hill.

3:50

Mary Ann Kaiser.

3:52

Rob Romero.

3:55

Joan Keston.

3:56

Michael Smith.

3:58

Ashley Wilson.

3:59

Great.

4:00

Thanks.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Historic Preservation█████████████████████████████████████████████77%
Procedural██████10%
Public Engagement███5%
Technology and Innovation███5%
Urban Planning2%
Community Engagement1%
Summary of Proceedings

Wilmington Historic Preservation Commission Meeting - October 10, 2019

The Wilmington Historic Preservation Commission met on Thursday, October 10, 2019, at 5:30 p.m. in City Council Chambers, Skyline Center, 929 North Front Street, Wilmington, NC. The meeting was called to order by Vice-Chairman Rob Romero and adjourned at 6:44 p.m. All eight members present voted unanimously on all items requiring a vote. The commission welcomed new commissioner Ashley Wilson.

Old Business

  • 214 North 7th Street (HD-R): Exterior alterations and building addition – The applicant's attorney, Matt Nichols, requested a continuance to December 12, 2019, citing recently being retained and the unavailability of the designer in November. The commission voted 8-0 to continue the item.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • For items 2, 3, and 4, the public hearing was opened and closed with no speakers for or against.

Discussion Items

  • 708 Chestnut Street (HD-R): Paint color – Applicant Lydia Currie proposed painting the porch gable ("Gleeful Joy"), door and rear door ("Tantalizing Teal"), and shutters ("Spring Parade"), and replacing a non-original door with a six-panel wood door. Staff noted the house was constructed around 1986 and is a non-contributing structure, though listed as contributing in error. Commissioner McCaleb expressed concern that the colors had no historical reference, but others noted similar colors appear in the design guidelines (page 66). The commission approved the request 8-0.
  • 7413 Masonboro Sound Road: Local Landmark Study List – Applicant Algernon Butler presented extensive historical and architectural evidence for designating the property (including the main house, kitchen/servants' quarters, hunt cottage, dairy spring, and sundial) as a local landmark. The property is within the Masonboro Sound National Register Historic District and is a rare surviving example of an 1870s recreational summer cottage. The commission voted 8-0 to place the property on the study list.
  • Wilmington Design Guidelines for Historic Districts and Landmarks: Proposed guidelines for ATMs, telecommunication facilities, and security cameras – Staff intern Robert O'Quinn presented benchmark research and proposed guidelines. Guidelines addressed camera placement, wiring concealment, telecommunications cabinet restrictions, and ATM dimensions (minimum 3 feet depth, 6 feet width). Existing facilities would be grandfathered. The guidelines were not voted on; a public hearing is scheduled for the December meeting, after which they will be submitted to City Council.
  • Meeting minutes – August 8, 2019 – Approved 8-0.
  • Items from the Commission – Commissioner Keston raised a question about recent case law requiring the commission to consider the entire historic district rather than just the block when reviewing compatibility. Staff confirmed they are adjusting presentations and motions accordingly.
  • Items from Staff – Planner Dawn Snotherly announced a partnership with the Sturgeon Wilmington Foundation and Cape Fear Community College to develop a curriculum for training craftsmen in historic building trades, certified by the foundation.

Key Outcomes

  • Continuance granted: Item 214 North 7th Street continued to December 12, 2019 (8-0).
  • Paint color approved: 708 Chestnut Street (8-0).
  • Local Landmark Study List approval: 7413 Masonboro Sound Road placed on study list (8-0).
  • Minutes approved: August 8, 2019 meeting minutes (8-0).
  • Design guidelines: No vote taken; public hearing scheduled for December 12, 2019.

The next regular meeting is Thursday, November 14, 2019, at 5:30 p.m. in the CresCom Building, 5th floor conference room.

Meeting Transcript

Hello, everybody. I'd like to welcome you all to this uh historic preservation commission meeting for October 10th, 2019. Hearings before the historic preservation commission are quasi-judicial in nature. This is a design review process to determine if the proposed project is congruous with historic aspects and special character of the storic district or landmark. Decisions of the commission are based on the record of these proceedings. The Wilmington Design Guidelines for Historic District and Landmarks and the Secretary of the Interiors and Standards for Rehabilitation. Evidence submitted to the Commission for review becomes part of the record. Appeals of commission decisions are to the Wilmington Board of Adjustment and then to Superior Court and are based on the record. Appeals must be filed within 30 days of date of the commission's action. Public comment is heard during the public comment portion of the agenda item. Those who want to address the commission are sworn as witnesses. The chair recognizes those who want to address the commission during the public hearing. Comments should be directed to the commission to ensure that all comments are properly recorded. Please come to the podium to address the commission, state your name and address, and speak clearly. This room is equipped with an assisted hearing system for people with hearing loss. At this time, I would like to request that all cell phones be either turned off or put on silence mode. Thank you. And a reminder to commissioners, if you've been have received or been made aware of any outside evidence related to any of these matters, please recuse yourself. And um Amy, we'd like to introduce our new commissioner first. We have a brand new commissioner. Do you want you want to get this morning? I actually will send the point of a member of the Wilmington for the Commission. Thanks, Ashley. Welcome. All right. And I also like to introduce our staff, Don Snudley, Amy Bradshaw, Melissa Huffman. And I'm I don't know you gentlemen, sir. I'm Robert O'Quen. I'm uh Don's intern. Oh great. Welcome. Thanks. All right, and would you like to swear in the other witness witnesses or other people here for us, Amy? Yeah. Mics work. I like to use the mention that. It's not on. Yep. Yep. That's great. Awesome. Okay. That mic's not working either. You want to check that? Okay, Amy, are you ready? Go for it. Do you apply to the question revenue about it? I do. Good. I almost I almost forgot I'd like our commissioners to introduce themselves, please.

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