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Wilmington Historic Preservation Commission Meeting - February 9, 2023

Historic Preservation CommissionThursday, February 9, 2023
BodyWilmington, North Carolina
SessionHistoric Preservation Commission
DateThursday, February 9, 2023
StatusFILED
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11:51

More simple the better.

16:16

No.

17:00

Good evening, everybody, and welcome to the February two thousand twenty-three meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission.

17:09

Hearings before this commission are quasi-judicial in nature.

17:12

This is a design review process to determine whether a proposed project is congruous with the special character of the historic district or landmark in which it is located.

17:24

Decisions of the commission are based on the record of these proceedings, the Wilmington design standards for historic districts and landmarks, and the Secretary of Interior standards for rehabilitation.

17:36

Evidence submitted to the commission for review will become part of the record.

17:41

Appeal of a commission decision must be submitted to the Wilmington Board of Adjustment within 30 days of the date of the Commission's action.

17:50

Further appeal must be submitted to a superior court.

17:54

Evidence pertaining to an agenda item must be presented during the evidentiary portion of that item.

18:15

In order to ensure witness evidence is properly recorded, each individual should come to the podium and clearly state their name and address before addressing the commission.

18:27

As a brief reminder, members of the commission are appointed by and serve at the pleasure of city council.

18:33

Our charge is with respect to the protection and preservation of properties located within the city's designated historic districts.

19:18

Commissioners, if you have received or been made aware of any information outside this evidentiary hearing related to any agenda item before the commission, please refuse yourself from that agenda item.

19:40

The city staff that are helping us tonight, Miss Melissa Huffman, the assistant city attorney, Miss Linda Painter, Planning Director, Ms.

19:50

Jessica Brown, Historic Preservation Planner, Ms.

19:53

Amy Bradshaw, Planning Coordinator, and Megan Basick, Associate Planner.

20:00

I'm Kathleen Egan, the commission chair, and my fellow commissioners will now introduce themselves as well.

20:09

Ross Thomas Ellie.

20:11

Stephen Sulkey.

20:12

Ashley Wilson.

20:13

Christopher Yermal.

20:15

Ron Wilson.

20:16

Alison Watts.

20:18

Thank you.

20:20

We will now swear in those present who wish to present evidence related to an agenda item.

20:27

If I could have all staff applicants and anybody here who wishes to speak this evening to please stand up and raise your right hand.

20:38

Is he the only applicant?

20:41

I'll need you to stand up as well as an applicant.

20:46

Okay.

20:47

Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

20:52

Thank you.

20:55

Thank you.

21:04

Um, so we will now move to the evidentiary portion of the meeting.

21:09

And the evidentiary portion begins with the first agenda item, the staff report.

21:17

I'm gonna recuse myself from this item.

21:27

Good evening.

21:29

Okay.

21:31

406 North Fifth Street, North Fifth Avenue.

21:35

The applicant seeks to construct a new two-story dwelling with an interior accessory dwelling on the vacant lot.

21:43

The subject lot is a 3,000 square foot vacant lot.

21:47

The subject lot is located on the east side of North Fifth Street between Red Cross and Walnut Streets.

21:54

The subject property is a non-contributing resource in the historic district, and revisions to all facades of the building and site are subject to design review within this district.

22:04

The applicant seeks to construct a new two-story dwelling with an interior accessory dwelling unit.

22:10

The proposed dwelling will be 21 feet wide by 74 feet deep, and a total square total lot area is 3,000 square feet with a building footprint of 1554 square feet, approximately 52% of the lot.

22:25

The front facade will be set back 15 feet, the side facade will be set back five feet, and a rear facade will be set back 10 feet.

22:34

The proposed dwelling will feature a CMU foundation wall with no more than 20 inches in height, hardy plank siding, lap siding with a six-inch reveal in the color stone paver.

22:45

The gable ends will feature hardy shake siding in the color stone paper, and all trim will be painted Sherman Williams extra white.

22:56

The roof will be a GAF architectural shingles, and the windows will be in the color shown charcoal, and the windows will be an MGM vinyl windows with a one over one light pattern.

23:09

Three fixed windows on the southern facade seen here at the top right will be a single light MGM vinyl fixed sash window.

23:16

The southern facade will have a shed roof hood at the entry door, and the entry door will match this the front facade entry door and hood will have similar brackets and supports.

23:29

Staff notes as seen here in the map that the neighborhood has a variety of setbacks and directly across Fifth Avenue, and most of the most of the row is directly along the street wall, while along the eastern side it varies from 10 feet to 25 feet.

23:44

Along Walnut and Red Cross, there is also a variety of setbacks.

23:48

Staff notes that the surrounding buildings range in height with a variety of porch styles, and staff notes that the historic district residential contains some of the finest of Wilmington's high style and vernacular residential architecture.

24:01

So here I just made street views, so you can see one side of the street, both sides of the Fifth Avenue there.

24:08

Um as well as from the corners of along the west side, east side.

24:18

Staff would like to enter tonight's report in its entirety to the record tonight.

24:30

Um did they submit any kind of a plan that indicates the the trees or anything on there?

24:36

I noticed there's a big tree right there in the right front.

24:40

Is that city owned or is that on their on the outcome?

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Historic Preservation█████████████████████████████████████████████52%
Procedural██████████████████21%
Window Regulations██████████████████21%
Tree Preservation█████6%
Summary of Proceedings

Wilmington Historic Preservation Commission Meeting - February 9, 2023

The Wilmington Historic Preservation Commission met on Thursday, February 9, 2023, at 5:30 p.m. in City Council Chambers, Skyline Center, 929 North Front Street, Wilmington, NC. The meeting was called to order by Chair Kathleen Egan and adjourned at 5:55 p.m. All witnesses were sworn in. The commission considered two evidentiary hearing items and received a staff update.

Discussion Items

1. 406 N 5th Ave: New Construction (HD-R)

  • Staff presented a proposal for a new two-story dwelling with an interior accessory dwelling unit on a 3,000 sq. ft. vacant lot. The building footprint would be 1,554 sq. ft. (52% lot coverage). Materials included Hardy Plank siding, vinyl windows, and architectural shingles.
  • Commissioner Ron Wilson asked about tree preservation; the applicant confirmed a tree in the right-of-way would remain. He also questioned the attached accessory unit; staff clarified that accessory units are a zoning matter outside HPC purview.
  • Commissioner Wilson expressed concern about vinyl windows, but staff noted vinyl windows have been approved for new construction in the past.
  • Vice-Chair Christopher Yermal recused himself due to professional involvement.
  • The commission voted 6-0 to conditionally approve the application, with 10 conditions including height limit of 28 ft., submission of HVAC and lighting plans, and clear glazing.

2. 116 N 16th Street: Installation of New Windows (Carolina Heights/Winoca Terrace HDO)

  • Staff summarized a request to replace 9 one-over-one sash wood windows on the north and south facades with white vinyl windows. The front facade casement windows are historic and were not proposed for replacement.
  • Applicant Griffin Marge stated that wood window replacement quotes were 7x more expensive than vinyl, and that plexiglass had been installed inside the historic front windows.
  • Vice-Chair Yermal strongly advocated for window repair and restoration, citing long-term cost effectiveness and character preservation. He suggested contacting Historic Wilmington Foundation for restoration resources.
  • Commissioner Ross Tomaselli noted the house is in good shape and losing original windows would diminish its character.
  • The commission unanimously voted 7-0 to deny the request, finding that vinyl windows are not appropriate in the historic district and that repair or replacement with wood would be more compatible.

Other Business

  • Items from Staff: Historic Preservation Planner Jessica Baldwin announced that a Request for Proposals (RFP) to update the city's design standards has been published, with proposals due February 13, 2023.
  • Items from Commission: Commissioner Ron Wilson asked whether staff had advised the applicant at 116 N 16th Street that vinyl windows are not appropriate. Staff confirmed they always inform applicants of design guidelines but cannot deny requests.

Key Outcomes

  • Approved (6-0): New construction at 406 N 5th Ave with conditions.
  • Denied (7-0): Vinyl window installation at 116 N 16th Street.
  • The next regular meeting is scheduled for March 9, 2023.

Meeting Transcript

More simple the better. No. Good evening, everybody, and welcome to the February two thousand twenty-three meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission. Hearings before this commission are quasi-judicial in nature. This is a design review process to determine whether a proposed project is congruous with the special character of the historic district or landmark in which it is located. Decisions of the commission are based on the record of these proceedings, the Wilmington design standards for historic districts and landmarks, and the Secretary of Interior standards for rehabilitation. Evidence submitted to the commission for review will become part of the record. Appeal of a commission decision must be submitted to the Wilmington Board of Adjustment within 30 days of the date of the Commission's action. Further appeal must be submitted to a superior court. Evidence pertaining to an agenda item must be presented during the evidentiary portion of that item. In order to ensure witness evidence is properly recorded, each individual should come to the podium and clearly state their name and address before addressing the commission. As a brief reminder, members of the commission are appointed by and serve at the pleasure of city council. Our charge is with respect to the protection and preservation of properties located within the city's designated historic districts. Commissioners, if you have received or been made aware of any information outside this evidentiary hearing related to any agenda item before the commission, please refuse yourself from that agenda item. The city staff that are helping us tonight, Miss Melissa Huffman, the assistant city attorney, Miss Linda Painter, Planning Director, Ms. Jessica Brown, Historic Preservation Planner, Ms. Amy Bradshaw, Planning Coordinator, and Megan Basick, Associate Planner. I'm Kathleen Egan, the commission chair, and my fellow commissioners will now introduce themselves as well. Ross Thomas Ellie. Stephen Sulkey. Ashley Wilson. Christopher Yermal. Ron Wilson. Alison Watts. Thank you. We will now swear in those present who wish to present evidence related to an agenda item. If I could have all staff applicants and anybody here who wishes to speak this evening to please stand up and raise your right hand. Is he the only applicant? I'll need you to stand up as well as an applicant. Okay. Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Thank you. Thank you. Um, so we will now move to the evidentiary portion of the meeting. And the evidentiary portion begins with the first agenda item, the staff report. I'm gonna recuse myself from this item. Good evening. Okay. 406 North Fifth Street, North Fifth Avenue. The applicant seeks to construct a new two-story dwelling with an interior accessory dwelling on the vacant lot. The subject lot is a 3,000 square foot vacant lot. The subject lot is located on the east side of North Fifth Street between Red Cross and Walnut Streets. The subject property is a non-contributing resource in the historic district, and revisions to all facades of the building and site are subject to design review within this district. The applicant seeks to construct a new two-story dwelling with an interior accessory dwelling unit. The proposed dwelling will be 21 feet wide by 74 feet deep, and a total square total lot area is 3,000 square feet with a building footprint of 1554 square feet, approximately 52% of the lot. The front facade will be set back 15 feet, the side facade will be set back five feet, and a rear facade will be set back 10 feet. The proposed dwelling will feature a CMU foundation wall with no more than 20 inches in height, hardy plank siding, lap siding with a six-inch reveal in the color stone paver. The gable ends will feature hardy shake siding in the color stone paper, and all trim will be painted Sherman Williams extra white. The roof will be a GAF architectural shingles, and the windows will be in the color shown charcoal, and the windows will be an MGM vinyl windows with a one over one light pattern. Three fixed windows on the southern facade seen here at the top right will be a single light MGM vinyl fixed sash window.

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