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Winchester City Commission Meeting - April 21, 2026: Recovery Residence Ordinance, Police Hiring, and Budget Discussions

Board of Commissioners MeetingsTuesday, April 21, 2026
BodyWinchester, Kentucky
SessionBoard of Commissioners Meetings
DateTuesday, April 21, 2026
StatusFILED
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3:02

Mr.

3:03

John Cheney will be leading us this evening.

3:06

John.

3:22

Please remain standing.

3:23

Chief Thompson will lead us in our invitation.

3:26

Heavily father, we thank you for the opportunity to get out here tonight and build the business of the city.

3:30

We thank you for these commissioners.

3:31

We thank you for our employees, and we thank you for these citizens that are engaged in this community.

3:36

And then please be seated.

4:12

Okay, let's go to item number five ordinance for first reading.

4:16

And Diana taught me today that we no longer are, I guess it's always been that way.

4:26

So no vote.

4:45

Okay, Diane.

4:46

Sorry.

4:47

Okay.

4:48

An ordinance promoting public health and the requirement of certification of recovery residences providing housing for individuals in recovery from substance use.

4:58

Okay, is there a motion?

5:00

I'm a motion by Commissioner Strode.

5:02

Is there a second?

5:03

Second.

5:03

Second by Commissioner Chenau.

5:05

Any discussion among the commissioners first?

5:07

Yeah, I've got some questions about this.

5:11

Okay.

5:14

Is there a non-profit?

5:16

You know, I think it's different from a profit run business.

5:21

Uh because I I don't like them to well, up the street from me, we had a uh a for-profit entity up there that that was a mess.

5:33

But is there a for-profit business?

5:36

Shouldn't they have to adhere to the same rules as a person running a garage out of their out of their building or a person having a beauty shop in their house?

5:56

Since it's a for profit thing, and have to go before the board of adjustments and adhere to the same rules and guidelines that those those folks do.

6:09

Yeah, well this is to be considered by the board of adjustments.

6:15

Yeah, so they consider that as part of the recovery residence as well, right?

6:29

And things like that.

6:32

Yes, and and no, it's a little bit different because of fair housing.

6:38

That impacts housing federal fair health laws impact recovery residents to some degree might be different than a Harrison law.

6:50

So but it but in general, I think you're right that this is gonna be this is gonna be reviewed by and passed or rejected by the board of adjustments.

7:02

Yeah, and I mean a a non-profit shouldn't be able to operate differently, I think, than for that a for-profit.

7:13

Well, if they're gonna be recovery residents, they still have to at least comport with the recovery residence that you 22500, yeah, or they cannot, yes.

7:28

That's state law, yes.

7:30

That is adopted not just by reference, but set out a lot.

7:37

Yeah, I mean, it doesn't matter whether or not it's for a profit or not for a profit.

7:42

Well, what if the board of adjustment says no, you you can't come here?

7:50

You can't have like four up around the block from me that had a a two bedroom house with 12 people in it, you know.

8:06

Well then that would have an enforcement action if they're operating illegally, then I mean that they can be shut out according to the order.

8:13

This gives it work the you know this order to do that, the ability to do that, which we currently do not have lawfully the ability to do that, yeah.

8:24

Well, this shut itself down when they basically destroyed the house and and uh broke it down every car on the street to at least one anything else you want to highlight I did I just you know what it just and the business license being a thousand dollars uh for these is that the general business license price?

8:57

No, with the business license if you look on it in section four under the requirements for the recovery residents under uh to a maintenance of they have to have a business license, which is the what which would be the general business license, but there's a yearly fee of a thousand dollars that's paid at home uh in addition, in addition in business okay, there's a fee licensure fee that's associated with this type of activity.

9:29

Okay, well, would that be waived if it's a nonprofit or not as it's currently laid out, no?

9:41

Business like it would be the business business.

9:48

Okay, I'm charge a ones.

9:51

A non profit okay, but the licensure fee would not be waived.

9:56

Okay, it's a thousand dollars annually, right?

10:00

It is.

10:01

I think I if I read that correctly.

10:02

The yearly fee is a thousand dollars and it's paid upon renewal of the business license itself.

10:08

When they go to pay their business license, then they would follow up with that.

10:13

Okay.

10:14

Well, and just uh start a pot of it.

10:17

So if they're not having to pay for a business license, what are the like what steps would you still bill it out like you would with the business license and then there'd still be other sort of to initially on get the business license if they are doing a uh brick and mortar or up something that other people will be in outside of then they would I think we can get inspections and then that is a renewal that they do have to do annual even if they don't pay the fee, it will need to be already annually and we get this in up to be ready?

10:58

A late fee tied to any of those kinds of things.

11:02

I don't know how to try to wait beyond a fee.

11:05

Nothing beyond a meeting.

11:07

Well, I got to see I'll say um we do um turn um non for non-renewals over to uh now the um it's on the board of adjustments administrative hearing board hearing board I'll be on a turn.

11:23

Okay, they would I'll I would decide to eat a record at that point.

11:28

Sure, just I'll wait.

11:29

Okay, okay, either commissioner this direction in the call me in or something look good to you.

11:37

Okay, before we vote, Miss Kissy.

11:39

You have anything you'd like to add?

11:42

Okay, just checking.

11:44

All right, we will take a vote.

11:46

All in favor, aye, aye, aye.

11:48

Any opposed by a like sign?

11:50

Motion carries item six, general orders six a madam clerk.

12:00

An order approving and accepting a bid for the fifth street stream restoration project to circle G excavating LLC for 96,700.

12:12

Is there a motion?

12:14

Motion by Commissioner Cox.

12:15

Is there a second?

12:18

Second by Commissioner Chenaud.

12:19

Any further discussion?

12:21

All in favor, aye.

12:22

Aye, any opposed by a like sign?

12:24

Motion carries item seven A through H.

12:29

And after the clerk reads A and B, I'm gonna turn it over to Chief Thompson just for a few moments.

12:35

So, ma'am clerk, if you'll go ahead and do A and B.

12:38

An order employing Kennan Martin to fill the position of police officer one, and an order employing Michael Baker to fill the position of police officer one.

12:50

Is there a motion?

12:51

Motion by Commissioner Strode.

12:53

Is there a second?

12:54

Second, second by Commissioner Toole.

12:56

Any further discussion?

12:57

All in favor, aye.

12:58

All right, Chief Thompson.

13:00

The floor is yours.

13:01

Thank you, Mayor.

13:01

Uh, if you'll indulge me just a second, I want to address the commission a little bit.

13:05

I'm uh today, tomorrow, and Thursday.

13:07

I have the absolute pleasure in the police executive command conference with Richmond DLC JT, and there are 83 in the class that are all chief assistant chief sheriffs or chief deputies.

13:18

And this morning we had the great pleasure.

13:20

And Chief Craig got to go first because the chief uh CD show he was very uncomfortable.

13:26

We had to stand up with a microphone and introduce ourselves and what our position was, and they asked us to uh speak to the biggest challenge that we face in our department, and everybody in the room just about probably 90% or better said staffing and budget and being able to compete.

13:43

And I'm just proud that you guys allow us to be a competitor police department, and we can hire guys if we're getting ready to do.

13:52

Uh we had a great group of applicants.

13:55

Um, as you know, the city manager and I and Alicia and finance work to kind of we've been behind, we've been down 32 people as low as we've been since I've been around the police department in many years, 20 years.

14:06

So um we're trying to build that back up.

14:09

It's kind of a three-step process.

14:10

This is step two.

14:11

We hired a couple certified people.

14:13

As you know, these two came to the top of the process, uh uncertified, they landed at the top.

14:19

Um you two want to come up here beside me.

14:21

Ken and Martin, uh, ready to get over some hurdles there on his paternal side.

14:25

There's a little shady character.

14:28

But we got to agree that we're ready to do a record.

14:30

So I will say that, but just thankful for you guys.

14:34

These are exactly what we're looking for.

14:36

These are hometown boys, they live here.

14:38

This is their community.

14:39

This one grazing his children here.

14:41

This one will one day.

14:43

Um exactly what we want.

14:45

Uh was told today there's 22 openings in the July Basic Training Academy at DLC JT, so that's where they're gonna land because we can put a minute after you all do this tonight.

14:53

So we're just real excited.

14:54

So congratulations.

14:56

Yeah, well, welcome aboard.

15:06

Yes, that's concluded.

15:07

So just so you guys know Mr.

15:09

Baker is uh your stepmom, correct?

15:11

Shannon Baker that works for us as his stepmom, so we're family.

15:18

Thank you, Chief.

15:27

Thank you, Chief.

15:28

Yep.

15:29

Good job.

15:33

Welcome aboard, guys.

15:35

We're expecting great things.

15:37

You know, um, I've been in Lexington all day long with a family member who had uh some serious surgery today, and on my way back, I had the radio on and they were talking about the young officer in Lexington that was drug uh on the bumper of the car the other day and hit the light and his arm has had to be amputated and uh said it would change his life forever.

16:00

So guys, just always be careful out there, okay?

16:03

Appreciate you.

16:04

All right, let's pick up item seven C through H.

16:07

Madam Clerk.

16:09

Um an order granting an educational certification incentive salary increase to Tristan Frame.

16:16

Is there a motion?

16:17

So moved.

16:18

Motion by Commissioner Toole.

16:19

Is there a second?

16:21

Second by Commissioner Strode.

16:22

Any discussion?

16:23

All in favor, aye, aye.

16:25

Any opposed by a light sign, motion carry seven D and order granting educational certification incentive salary increases to certain personnel.

16:34

Is there a motion?

16:35

So motion motion by Commissioner Shenault.

16:37

Is there a second?

16:38

Second, second by Commissioner Toole.

16:40

Any further discussion?

16:41

All in favor, aye.

16:42

I did any opposed by a light sign.

16:44

Motion carries item 7E, an order terminating the employment of Jennifer Meredith, building inspector.

16:51

Is there a motion?

16:52

So move motion by Commissioner Toole.

16:54

Is there a second?

16:55

Second, second by Commissioner Strode.

16:56

Any discussion?

16:57

I just I know that we can't just hire off of tree, but um clearly in an incredibly important position with all the developments that are coming in.

17:06

So a little bit of pressure and see Mr.

17:08

Jeffries in here, but interested, excited to see who he can bring on as right.

17:13

And we need it accept.

17:14

Yes, ma'am.

17:15

Yesterday okay.

17:17

Uh 7 F.

17:20

An order amending the position description of accounting specialists.

17:24

Is there a motion?

17:26

Motion by Commissioner Cox, second by Commissioner Strode.

17:28

Any discussion?

17:29

All in favor, aye.

17:31

Aye.

17:31

Any opposed by a light sign?

17:32

Motion carries item 7G.

17:35

An order amending the position description of tax and license clerk.

17:39

Is there a motion?

17:41

Motion by Commissioner Strode, second by Commissioner Toole.

17:43

Any discussion?

17:44

All in favor, aye.

17:46

Any opposed by like sign, motion carry seven H and order reclassifying Laura Poe from tax and license clerk to a county specialist.

17:54

And she is better known around here to us as Beth.

17:57

I said who is Laura Poe.

18:00

Okay.

18:00

Is there a motion?

18:02

Motion by Commissioner Strode.

18:03

Is there a second?

18:04

Second.

18:04

Second by Commissioner Cox.

18:06

Any discussion?

18:07

All in favor, aye.

18:08

Any opposed by a like sign?

18:10

Motion carries.

18:11

Madam Clerk, do we have anyone that signed up for general public hearing for items not on the agenda?

18:20

Yeah.

18:21

Um just passed.

18:24

Well, does anyone have a comment that you would like to come forward?

18:28

I'll grant that.

18:30

Okay.

18:32

Seeing none, we'll move on to item nine.

18:34

Comments from the mayor, commissioner, city manager, and city attorney.

18:39

Let's start with Commissioner Chenol tonight.

18:42

Well, can you do it?

18:44

I can do that.

18:45

Uh at our last meeting, and in between that, I uh had the pleasure of walking uh high side of Main Street to complete the bucket list that was left over with Mike and Chris Frazier and the Palmer engineer and gentlemen.

19:04

And I saw Chris Frazier out this week, uh completing his bucket list and everything that we had all of that.

19:13

Mike had on his list, and uh think you were well, and uh don't know if everything got completed, but I did see them a few more.

19:21

We've got just a few more items to knock out.

19:24

Jesse's working on those as we speak.

19:26

There was corresponding back and forth with Ian Chris today on a few of the items that he needs to take care of.

19:33

So we're getting really close.

19:34

Hopefully, in the next meeting or two, um, we'll be able to bring that project before you all for uh before the commission um for final approval.

19:45

And one thing to be reminded of is we bring that to you for final approval.

19:49

There's a warranty period that goes with that project as well for the workmanship and the construction there.

19:56

So um that was you know, we this this isn't the end of the road.

20:00

We accept it finally, but it but then there's a warranty that goes with that.

20:05

So um definitely glad that we have those type of things in the contracts and that we do.

20:12

Commissioner Chanel, thank you for doing that.

20:13

You're welcome.

20:14

Anything else?

20:15

Along those same lines, I was asking today about how long will it be before KU is going to hook up the lights, Jesse.

20:22

We had a little confusion in the building.

20:28

I got that straight out, and it should be by the end of the week, get my first thing next week.

20:32

Great.

20:33

Wonderful.

20:34

Wonderful.

20:35

I don't think those folks will like to get my meal.

20:37

I don't think so either.

20:39

Commissioner Schnell, do you think else?

20:41

Uh no, I'd like to thank Brian for uh he had to do a little chore where Riz then called in and said it was a ground hall.

20:52

We got to get in front of our doors.

20:54

The ground all was looking at her.

20:57

So he did take care of that, and I thank you, sir.

21:01

That's all I have.

21:02

Thank you, Brian.

21:03

And no animal control must be other duties as the sign then.

21:11

List.

21:12

Um, Brian, I spoke this afternoon, and we suggested in the next 10 days, maybe we'll get Jesse and the three of us are gonna walk main or where to put these planners.

21:22

Um bring out some more boxes.

21:24

I'm gonna ask RJ if the county would like to have two boxes on their steps, like we used to have the ones that were added and see if they'd like to have those.

21:35

I think that would be nice.

21:36

But we've got a lot to put out, so um gonna get on get on the next couple of weeks.

21:42

I'd like to remind everybody that the first rock the block is May 15th in front of the courthouse, so we're back downtown.

21:49

And the sponsors of the first one are the tourism and the chamber.

21:52

So that's great to kick off.

21:54

That was seven.

21:56

Uh-huh.

21:57

Until we won't close the streets off till five.

22:04

Somebody got outside the door.

22:07

Anything else?

22:09

Oh anything else.

22:11

I think that's all.

22:12

Okay.

22:13

Commissioner Cox.

22:14

Uh question on uh the high side I mentioned before about getting some kind of a pipe cover for those.

22:25

We've got them.

22:26

That schedule 35 pipes, sir.

22:28

We've got them.

22:29

Jesse's ordered them and they're in-house.

22:31

We just gotta get the time to put them all in.

22:34

We do have them.

22:35

Okay.

22:35

And they're black and their covers for those pipes, and looks a whole lot better than the green one.

22:40

Yeah, it'll look much better.

22:42

It's a good job for you.

22:44

Believe me, I deal with enough pipe.

22:48

Yes.

22:49

Uh got told my work camp today.

22:52

We are at 293 kids.

22:55

No, 298 kids from 12 states.

23:00

Just added a group today from Massachusetts going to come to Winchester.

23:08

And what are those dates again, Commissioner?

23:10

Uh, the kids will arrive July the 5th.

23:12

They'll be working on 55 homes.

23:16

Drop one today.

23:18

Lady called and said that she didn't need to work on be five homes from July the 5th or the 6th through the 11th through the 10th.

23:31

And by 9 o'clock on the 11th, they'll all be gone.

23:37

Hopefully.

23:39

Uh only other thing.

23:42

I had a conversation with a lady last night about some issues with a pipe or over on Hamilton Street.

23:54

And I drove over there, and it looks like WMU is doing something over there.

24:00

And uh project hopefully that that will solve her issue.

24:04

So but I just wanted to mention that have it where I can say, hey, I you told me to want to pass that on to Kyle Rainey as well.

24:16

Okay, I will.

24:18

Commissioner Jewel.

24:19

Okay.

24:20

No, ma'am.

24:20

Okay.

24:21

Uh how about Mr.

24:22

Attorney?

24:23

Anything?

24:24

No, yeah.

24:24

Okay.

24:25

Mr.

24:25

Flynn.

24:26

Two things.

24:27

Uh the splice park, um, the opening of the spice park will be on May the 23rd at 10 a.m.

24:34

Um, we'll do a formal opening of that for the for the season pretty much, but uh um just encourage those, and there is a backup date, which is May the 30th, but hopefully we get it on May May the 23rd.

24:49

And then I just wanted to bring to your attention as well.

25:00

Um, and I told the Chiefs this when we walked in the room, but um this past month um for the month of March, we're about 11,000 um in excess of overall fuel budget for the month and and uh directly related to fuel cost.

25:13

Didn't really do anything any different than we done because I did a six-month review of it and and to see where we're at.

25:22

So it it is making an impact operationally, so I just want you to know uh and be aware that you know these costs they impact our services, they impact our everything that we do on a daily basis, and you know police fire EMS.

25:40

Um I mean, every time that truck goes out and every time they go to a call, um it it it impacts the city.

25:48

So uh I mean I just want you to be aware of these things, and we're we're paying attention to it.

25:54

I know uh Chief Whitley's even mentioned to me that he had a meeting with the staff about it at the beginning of the week yesterday um to discuss that.

26:03

So what's not non-essential, we need to try to keep uh the miles down and try to preserve where we can.

26:11

Well, budgets are tight everywhere right now.

26:13

They are and we we are no different.

26:17

Um, you know, money comes in, money goes out.

26:20

The timing is is a big issue for us more than anything when we get the funds in and then what when when things come due.

26:28

So you know it's nice to do projects, it's nice to see the things that we do, but uh timing is critical in payment of bills and receipt of revenues uh from those that uh help us to provide the services that we provide.

26:45

Okay, Commissioner Tool, I believe you had something else.

26:47

I did want to circle back if that's okay, just to piggyback off of what uh Mr.

26:52

Flynn said.

26:53

Budgets and flashpad are um parts of recreation, always can use more assistance and funding, and it's never about me, but last year we both talked about donating flash pad and I put $500 up.

27:07

So it's like a ice water bucket challenge.

27:11

I challenge anyone else to do any amount that they're comfortable with.

27:14

You know, I was fortunate at that time that I could do that amount, but we really could use a little more assistance in getting our splash pad funded for admittance for our children to be able to do that for free.

27:25

And I think there's a town that could help them.

27:28

There's a yes, yeah, I'm pretty sure absolutely step to the point.

27:32

But just a reminder, a little a little luck goes a long way with that type of donation.

27:36

Exactly.

27:38

Anything else?

27:39

No, ma'am.

27:40

Okay, I just had a couple comments in regard to the uh budget.

27:44

You all be sure.

27:45

I think everybody wrote that on their calendar.

27:47

We're meeting all day long on May 7th and all day long on May 8th.

27:51

Uh, and working on the budget.

27:54

I talked to Alicia a little bit ago and she's already ahead of me uh asking her to uh give us a printout or a spreadsheet on um monies we have borrowed and what we have paid down and where we are.

28:07

Uh we don't miss our payments, and uh I think we're we're good citizens when we do that.

28:13

So thank you, Alicia, for addressing that.

28:16

Also, uh we received a um email, I guess that was Friday from um the developer who's developing the property on Kobe Road, and um telling me that a press release was going out uh either yesterday or today that Publix is official uh that will begin in the very near future.

28:38

Um also we had a nice discussion uh on what some of the out parcels might be, and I think our community is gonna be very happy.

28:47

So uh that's all I have.

28:49

So it looks like we need to go to closed session for property acquisition, KRS chapter 61810B.

28:58

Is anyone else have anything to add to the closed session?

29:02

Okay, if not, I'll take a motion.

29:04

Uh make a motion that we adjourn to closed session for uh KRF chapter 618 10 B.

29:13

And at the end of the closed session, we also adjourn this general meeting of the A commission.

29:21

Okay, there's the motion.

29:22

Is there a second second second by Commissioner Strode?

29:24

Any discussion?

29:26

All in favor, aye.

29:27

I will meet in the city manager's office.

29:30

We are officially adjourned.

29:33

Sure, that's all right.

29:36

Okay, yeah.

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Summary of Proceedings

Winchester City Commission Meeting - April 21, 2026

The Winchester City Commission met on April 21, 2026, to consider a first-reading ordinance on recovery residences, approve multiple personnel actions including the hiring of two police officers, and discuss budget and community updates. All votes were unanimous.

Consent Calendar

  • None explicitly designated; all items were voted on individually.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • No members of the public signed up or offered comments.

Discussion Items

  • Ordinance (First Reading) – Recovery Residence Certification: An ordinance promoting public health and requiring certification of recovery residences for individuals in recovery from substance use. Commissioner Strode questioned the difference between for-profit and nonprofit residences, application of board of adjustment rules, fair housing laws, and business license fees. City staff clarified that the ordinance would be enforced through the board of adjustments and included a $1,000 annual licensure fee in addition to the general business license. The ordinance was approved unanimously on first reading.
  • General Order – Fifth Street Stream Restoration Project: Approved a bid of $96,700 from Circle G Excavating LLC for the Fifth Street stream restoration project. Unanimous.
  • Personnel Actions:
    • Employed Kennan Martin and Michael Baker as police officers (uncertified). Chief Thompson highlighted the department's staffing challenges, noting the department had been down 32 officers, and praised the commission for making the department competitive. Both officers are local residents.
    • Granted educational certification incentive salary increases to Tristan Frame and certain other personnel.
    • Terminated the employment of building inspector Jennifer Meredith.
    • Amended position descriptions for accounting specialist and tax and license clerk.
    • Reclassified Laura Poe (also known as Beth) from tax and license clerk to accounting specialist.

Key Outcomes

  • All agenda items received unanimous approval.
  • The meeting adjourned to closed session for property acquisition under KRS 618.10B, after which the public meeting was adjourned.

Additional Updates

  • Commissioner & City Manager Reports:
    • Commissioner Chenault reported progress on the High Side Main Street project, with only a few items remaining before final approval and a warranty period.
    • KU street lights on High Side expected to be connected by end of week or early next week.
    • First "Rock the Block" event scheduled for May 15th downtown, sponsored by tourism and chamber.
    • Commissioner Cox updated that pipe covers for High Side have been ordered and received.
    • Work camp this summer will host 298 youth from 12 states, working on 55 homes from July 5-11.
    • City Manager Flynn announced the Splash Park opening on May 23rd (rain date May 30th) and reported that fuel costs exceeded budget by $11,000 in March, impacting operations.
    • Commissioner Toole challenged others to donate to the splash pad admission fund, noting she donated $500 last year.
    • Mayor announced budget work sessions on May 7th and 8th, and confirmed that Publix will be developing on Kobe Road, with a press release expected soon.

Closed Session

  • The commission voted to go into closed session for property acquisition under KRS 618.10B and then adjourned the public meeting.

Meeting Transcript

Mr. John Cheney will be leading us this evening. John. Please remain standing. Chief Thompson will lead us in our invitation. Heavily father, we thank you for the opportunity to get out here tonight and build the business of the city. We thank you for these commissioners. We thank you for our employees, and we thank you for these citizens that are engaged in this community. And then please be seated. Okay, let's go to item number five ordinance for first reading. And Diana taught me today that we no longer are, I guess it's always been that way. So no vote. Okay, Diane. Sorry. Okay. An ordinance promoting public health and the requirement of certification of recovery residences providing housing for individuals in recovery from substance use. Okay, is there a motion? I'm a motion by Commissioner Strode. Is there a second? Second. Second by Commissioner Chenau. Any discussion among the commissioners first? Yeah, I've got some questions about this. Okay. Is there a non-profit? You know, I think it's different from a profit run business. Uh because I I don't like them to well, up the street from me, we had a uh a for-profit entity up there that that was a mess. But is there a for-profit business? Shouldn't they have to adhere to the same rules as a person running a garage out of their out of their building or a person having a beauty shop in their house? Since it's a for profit thing, and have to go before the board of adjustments and adhere to the same rules and guidelines that those those folks do. Yeah, well this is to be considered by the board of adjustments. Yeah, so they consider that as part of the recovery residence as well, right? And things like that. Yes, and and no, it's a little bit different because of fair housing. That impacts housing federal fair health laws impact recovery residents to some degree might be different than a Harrison law. So but it but in general, I think you're right that this is gonna be this is gonna be reviewed by and passed or rejected by the board of adjustments. Yeah, and I mean a a non-profit shouldn't be able to operate differently, I think, than for that a for-profit. Well, if they're gonna be recovery residents, they still have to at least comport with the recovery residence that you 22500, yeah, or they cannot, yes. That's state law, yes. That is adopted not just by reference, but set out a lot. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't matter whether or not it's for a profit or not for a profit. Well, what if the board of adjustment says no, you you can't come here? You can't have like four up around the block from me that had a a two bedroom house with 12 people in it, you know. Well then that would have an enforcement action if they're operating illegally, then I mean that they can be shut out according to the order. This gives it work the you know this order to do that, the ability to do that, which we currently do not have lawfully the ability to do that, yeah. Well, this shut itself down when they basically destroyed the house and and uh broke it down every car on the street to at least one anything else you want to highlight I did I just you know what it just and the business license being a thousand dollars uh for these is that the general business license price? No, with the business license if you look on it in section four under the requirements for the recovery residents under uh to a maintenance of they have to have a business license, which is the what which would be the general business license, but there's a yearly fee of a thousand dollars that's paid at home uh in addition, in addition in business okay, there's a fee licensure fee that's associated with this type of activity. Okay, well, would that be waived if it's a nonprofit or not as it's currently laid out, no? Business like it would be the business business. Okay, I'm charge a ones.

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