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11:02Good evening, everyone.
11:03I'm Alan Joins, Mayor of Winston Salem.
11:05It's my honor to call to order this meeting of the Winston Salem City Council here on January the 20th and ask the city clerk to call the roll, please.
11:14Councilmember Joyner, present.
11:15Councilmember Clark.
11:17Councilmember Andrew Bowen.
11:19Councilmember Scipio.
11:20Mayor Pray Tim Adams.
11:22Councilmember Taylor.
11:25And Councilmember Burke.
11:27Thank you very much.
11:28Would you please join the City Council with me in a moment of silence?
11:46Would you please join the city council and me in the Pledge of Allegiance?
11:51Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
12:17Thank you for being with us tonight.
12:19Keeping us well protected here.
12:24Tonight's meeting, of course, is being televised live on TV 13.
12:28It will be replayed Wednesday morning, which is tomorrow, obviously at 9 a.m.
12:34and again tomorrow night at 9 p.m.
12:36Copies of our agenda as well as videos of previous meetings are always available online on the city's website.
14:18So the while the amounts remain uncertain, the uh again, the temperatures will be below freezing, uh creating also the potential for black ice on roadways if there's moisture present.
14:30So just to give you uh the community uh some background, we are in a state of readiness and have our preparing our brine and salt trucks so they'll be ready for deployment.
14:42If it's good if it right now they're calling for rain first before the snow, so that means that our response has to change because if you put down chemicals that the rain just washes off, it doesn't do any good.
14:55So we're again having to monitor all of those issues.
15:00The bridges and the overpasses would typically be treated with brine and road salt and crews will remain on call for icy conditions as long as needed.
15:09Emergency officials are reminding motors to use extreme caution when traveling during winter weather.
15:14Our employees will know our inclement weather policy and will be prepared to follow that.
15:20And drivers should leave additional space between vehicles and reduce speed on snow or ice-covered roadways.
15:28So if you want to follow along or the in the public wants to follow along, we encourage them to look at our emergency preparedness at ReadyforSythe.org or Ready NC dot org.
15:43You can follow those on social media by liking their page on Facebook or following them on X or Twitter, whatever it is now.
15:52So we encourage people to just to stay informed and we'll communicate information as we have it available.
16:00A couple of other uh items, nominations are being accepted through February 27th for the Arts, Culture, and Entertainment Memorial Walk of Fame.
16:07Nominees must have sustained excellence in their artistic field, be deceased and former residents of Winston-Salem.
16:15Information is available and the nominate including the nomination form on our website at City of Winston Salem.org backslash walk of fame.
16:27Our leaf collection, solid waste leaf collection, they're in round two.
16:33Collections have moved to quadrants three and four, which are in the west and northwest sections of this of town.
16:39And so once these areas have been completed, round three and the final rounds will be quadrants one and two.
16:45If it snows, we will not be doing leaf collection during the snow event.
16:51As has been widely reported, we are experiencing a shortage of pennies due to the stopping of minting of those.
16:58So there are a variety of processes we put in place to deal with that.
17:05We'll allow people to use pennies for exact change if they have them.
17:09And if they can't, then we'll do a rounding as we typically have done.
17:13Customers who do not want their change rounded have a couple of other options.
17:17They can use check credit or debit cards.
17:20Again, you can bring the exact change exact chat cash or change for payments.
17:26And if they are questions, they can call our City Link at 311 or check on our website.
17:32The Office of Sustainability is accepting nominations for people who lead the way in making Winston Salem more sustainable.
17:39So they have awards for young leader of the year for someone 18 and under, resident of the year, green initiative of the year, and organization of the year.
17:48And there's a variety of categories that they're looking for.
18:03Nomination forms can be found on the website, and the winners will be honored at the Piedmont Environmental Alliance Fair on April 18th this year.
18:15You received a report on the on the grounds and just one bit of good news through this quarter, they're showing that they've spent about 90% of the project budget that has been allocated to them on that project.
18:29So they're making uh good progress on all of the infrastructure that is the money that came from the state through the city to them.
18:38In terms of a couple of events that are coming up, just as a reminder, January 30th through February 1st, the cookout clash returns to Bowman Gray Stadium.
18:46And so we're hoping for much better weather next weekend than we might have this weekend.
18:52Recreation and Parks is excited to formally invite the public to visit Bellevue Community Center on Tuesday, February 17th from 5 30 to 7 30 for an open house.
19:03And they will have some light refreshments if that encourages you.
19:07There is a pace of the triad is doing a ribbon cutting on Friday, February 23rd at 11 a.m.
19:14And we will be doing coffee with the city on Tuesday, January 27th, weather permitting 10 to 2 at Miller Park Community Center.
19:26And then finally, there's a Northeast Suburban Area Plan public input meeting on Wednesday, June 28th at 5 30 p.m., which will be at the Forsyth Tech Transportation Technology Center at 4255 Patterson Avenue.
19:42And with that, I'll stand ready to answer the question.
19:45Any questions for Mr.
19:48Thank you, Mayor joins Manager Payne for the open house on February the 17th for Bellevue Recreation Center.
19:53Did you say that was at 2?
19:55From 5 30 to 7 30 p.m.
19:58I was away all 5 30 to 7 30.
20:02That's why we do these.
20:03We make sure everybody's informed.
20:07Thank you very much, Mr.
20:09We do have a couple of honorariums.
20:11I recognize City Clerk to read those.
20:15Item H1 honoring 2026 Dark Dr.
20:18Martin Luther King Jr.
20:20Young Dreamers Award recipients.
20:22Victor Aparicio and Corey McCann.
20:27Martin Luther King Jr.
20:29Young Dreamers Award was established by the Winston Salem Human Relations Commission in 2009.
20:34And whereas the purpose of the Dr.
20:36Martin Luther King Jr.
20:37Young Dreamers Award is to recognize two outstanding emerging or proven young adult leaders who reside in the City of Winston Salem and have produced a meaningful result in community inclusiveness and race relations.
20:50And whereas the goal of the Dr.
20:52Martin Luther King Jr.
20:53Young Dreamers Award is to encourage young adults to participate in philanthropic altrucent altruistic community involvement, reflecting the spirit in which Dr.
21:04Martin Luther King Jr.
21:05lived and encouraged others to live.
21:08Martin Luther King Jr.
21:10Young Dreamers must be 18 to 40 years of age on or before January 17th, 2026.
21:18Martin Luther King Jr.
21:20Young Dreamers are re residents of Winston Salem who have demonstrated outstanding work and dedication in the Winston Salem community and can neither hold an executive leadership position within his or her organization, nor be an elected government official.
21:36Martin Luther King Jr.
21:38Young Dreamers have made a tangible difference in the lives of others who may have otherwise been overlooked, ignored, or disadvantaged.
21:45Specific examples include fostering positive race relations, vocalizing, or acting against an injustice, leading inclusiveness among all individuals, embracing those who are perceived as being different, and celebrating religious diversity.
22:00The Young Dreamers Civic and or community-oriented work has resulted in tangible results, benefiting disenfranchised persons in the community.
22:09Now therefore be it resolved that Victor Aparicio and Corey McCann are recognized and honored as the 2026 Dr.
22:17Martin Luther King Jr.
22:18Young Dreamers in the City of Winston Salem.
22:21Dated the 20th day of January 2026.
22:24There's uh I believe a video that you're going to show uh Jim.
22:40Martin Luther King Jr.
22:42Young Dreamers Award recognizes individuals who serve their communities and create real opportunity.
22:50One of this year's recipients is Victor Aparicio.
22:53Victor is a community leader and social entrepreneur, expanding economic opportunities for the Latino community in Winston-Salem.
23:02He has mentored over 350 Latino entrepreneurs, helping them access training, funding, and support through the Exponde Business Program and a multicultural community center he co-founded.
23:17Victor helps families start businesses, build stability, and feel supported.
23:23Victor Aparizio embodies Dr.
23:26King's vision by creating pathways for opportunities and empowering others to rise.
24:04Corey McCann is one of those leaders.
24:07Through his commitment to youth empowerment and peace, he works to create safer pathways and brighter futures for young people by offering guidance, mentorship, and hope where it's needed most.
24:21Corey leads with compassion and purpose.
24:25Having been featured on local news, he brings people together and shows what it means to turn belief into action.
24:36His work reflects the heart of the Dr.
24:39Martin Luther King Jr.
24:40Young Dreamers Award, honoring those who carry the dream forward by building it into reality every day.
24:55Is there a motion to approve both of these resolutions?
25:05And that is unanimous.
25:06Mayor Pro Tim Adam's just going to present those.
25:08If uh the two recipients would please come up to the podium, please.
25:20Right on that, sorry.
25:26Again, thank you so much on behalf of the city of Winston Salem and our residents and community.
25:32It's always good when we have folks that are stepping up to engage, but to own stock in their community and engaging their neighbors and young folks and others.
25:48And I just know that continue to do what you do.
25:51It won't always be easy.
25:53It won't always be that someone will listen to what you're doing or trying to do.
25:58But you gotta believe, and you gotta have faith, and you gotta have courage.
26:03So again, congratulations to both of you for being our dreamers for 2026.
26:08And I'm going to present, if Chris, if you hold it, I'm gonna present this, and then I'm gonna let you guys say something.
26:37Uh to all council members and all attendees here today, and to my family, uh, to my beautiful little daughter, Kimmy, my son Chase, my fiance Adilia, um, giving all honor and glory to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ first and foremost.
26:52Um, per usual, I have a whole lot to say, but I'll just leave it at this one quote um by the great Reverend Dr.
26:58Martin Luther King Jr., who once stated that if a man is called to be a street sweeper, let him sweep the streets as Beethoven composed music, as Picasso painted portraits, and as Shakespeare wrote poetry, so that when that same street sweeper lays down, the heavenly host can say, here laid a great street sweeper who did his job well.
27:21So I would encourage any and all future leaders and recipients.
27:26Um, you know, just continue to do the work.
27:31Uh, it doesn't matter how luxurious it looks, it doesn't matter how you know, uh how great it may look or how great it may not look into the human eye.
27:39Just do the work because it matters.
27:41And so uh I just want to say thank you all for this award.
27:44I'm honored, I'm humbled, um, and I'm blessed to be here and to be a recipient.
27:59Well, uh, first of all, thank you so much for this uh recognition.
28:03This is an honor for me to be here representing the Latino community, mostly in this uh challenging times.
28:11So I'm so grateful for be able to do this work, and being here with you guys is like uh a show of love from you to the community.
28:22And this I receive this in honor of each family that come to our training, each family that we serve, and that they see hope they're starting a business to provide for their family.
28:34So thank you so much.
28:35Thank you for my family, Rebecca, Julia, and David uh their working with me uh in to and together, and every member of our community that has embraced this vision, the Mobile Business Center for Saitech, uh, the Wilson Salem Foundation, and so many other people, the Central Library, uh so many people that we that we're doing this work together.
28:59So thank you so much, and I hope counting with you guys, keeping the this work together in the city.
29:10Uh, we have uh some members of the human relations commission that are with us tonight.
29:15If you're with us, if you'd like to say a word, you can you may sing it if you like.
29:25Thank you very much.
29:27My name is Jason McKinney.
29:28I serve as chair of the Human Relations Commission here in Winston Salem.
29:34Uh, the commission is proud to present the Dr.
29:36Martin Luther King Jr.
29:37Human Relations Award.
29:39This award honors individuals who reflect Dr.
29:43King's legacy through service and action that advance fairness opportunity and community connection here in Winston-Salem.
29:49Our recipients, as you have mentioned, are Victor Aparicio and uh Cory McCann.
29:54They were also recognized at the Winston Salem Chronicles MLK Breakfast.
30:00And Victor Aparicio is a community leader and a social entrepreneur expanding economic opportunity for Latino entrepreneurs through mentorship, education, and access to resources.
30:08Corey McCann, as you mentioned, founder of Riley Up, Winston-Salem is dedicated to youth empowerment and violence prevention, creating positive pathways and strengthening community trust.
30:20Because of these reasons, the Human Relations Commission of Winston-Salem is proud to award this award for the Martin Luther King Junior Young Dreamers Award to Corey McCann and Victor Aparicio.
30:46Thank you very much.
30:47Thank you very much.
30:50Speaking of Martin Luther King, I'm only a day and weekend.
30:54I wanted to recognize we had over a hundred city employees who volunteered for the day of giving work all across the city of Winston-Salem.
31:02I went by, and City Manager Payton others were there, and all of our ACMs were serving pizza that day.
31:08So I appreciate all their hard work there.
31:11And then I certainly want to recognize the fact that our uh own uh councilmember Scott Andre Bowen was uh recognized uh by the Ministers Conference of Winston Salem vicinity on uh Sunday afternoon for his work as a community leader.
31:26So Scott, congratulations to you for that award.
31:32We'll now go to the consent agenda.
31:34Of course, as you know, and our regular agenda, consent agenda is considered first.
31:38Items on this agenda have been unanimously approved by committee of the city council or are being submitted in accordance with established city procedure.
31:47There'll be no discussion on the items on this agenda unless the council members so request, in which event we will remove it from the consent agenda and consider that item individually.
31:56Items not removed will be enacted with one motion.
31:59Council members, are there any items you wish to remove from the consent agenda?
32:04I move for approval of the consent agenda.
32:08Motion by Mayor Pro Tim Adams, second by Councilmember Hall.
32:11All of that we'll do a voice vote.
32:13All those in favor of the motion, please indicate the saying aye.
32:17And that is unanimous.
32:19We'll now go to the general agenda, which is comprised of two public hearings relative to uh zoning petitions.
32:26When these public hearings were called, persons in the council chamber will be given an opportunity to speak.
32:31If there's opposition to the public hearing item, the proponents and the opponents will be each given 15 minutes for presentation and then three minutes for a rebuttal.
32:40If no one wishes to speak, I'll close the public hearing and the city council will consider the item.
32:45By the way, we'll be voting electronically on those items at City Council.
32:50Uh may we have item G1, please.
32:53Item G1, public hearing and consideration of zoning petition of Parks Family Holdings LLC from LB to PBS.
33:01Properties located at the southwest intersection of West Walnut Street and South Broad Street, located in the South Ward.
33:09Is there anyone in Council Terry over who is opposed to this rezoning?
33:15If there are any uh any questions, you're opposed to it, sir.
33:21I'm hearing appearing.
33:23Uh I'm not sure if I'm allowed to speak.
33:26Are you opposed to this rezoning?
33:30Sorry, I haven't trained.
33:33Are you opposed to the rezoning that they're doing on that one?
33:36I just I have a comment on the rezoning.
33:39Um I own the building across the street, the blue building at the intersection of Brown Walmart.
33:44State your name and address for the record.
33:48Uh Jeremiah Smith, um, 838 South Brown Street.
33:54And forgive me if I'm talking too loud, too.
33:56I can't hear myself.
33:58Um, my only concern is that that intersection has become a de facto entertainment district.
34:06Um, at the very least, a commercial district where we have restaurants, we have bars, and we have um coffee shops and things like that.
34:16And while I'm not 100% uh opposed to the rezoning, I'm concerned about having things like townhomes directly across the street from that because I've lived in other areas where that happened and that caused conflict.
34:29You know, people calling about music coming from the restaurants.
34:33Um that's pretty much the concern I wanted to voice.
34:39And make sure that it was known.
34:45Someone closer to me will have to turn.
34:49Would the proponents uh like to comment on on that, uh, Mr.
34:55If you would state your name and address for the record to you, Mr.
35:02Good evening, Mayor.
35:03Mayor Pro Tim, Council members.
35:04Luke Dickey was Stimble Associates, 601 North of Trade Street, Suite 200, Winston, North Carolina.
35:09Here representing the Parks family in regards to this zoning request.
35:13So what is happening with this is there's an existing single-family residence that is located on this parcel right now.
35:19It is zoned business that was converted over into from that standpoint.
35:23So they're just looking at trying to maximize their ability to develop this and add additional density and housing into the area.
35:30For the particular reason, because of the fact that this is kind of an area that is growing and has uh the restaurants that has the office sort of more of a mixed use, so they see that this density would be a good thing to be able to add.
35:41So really it's going from really one residential unit right now to three, is what's being proposed, and I'd be happy to answer any questions that you have in regards to it.
35:54Smith, do you have anything else you would like to say in rebuttal?
36:00It's taking this thing a minute to know what you're saying.
36:03So it's a bit difficult for me to uh follow along.
36:08I'm using a transcription service, but it doesn't work that well.
36:12Um has that corner not been vacant for uh more than several years long before the restaurants and coffee shops and bars began to open.
36:27So I think I didn't think anyone had been in that how the house that's currently there for about 10 years.
36:37That's justn't the best way for me to take your time.
36:40That's I've got about 20 percent of my hearing.
36:49Dickey, you want to add anything else for remote?
36:53I'll declare the public hearing closed and asked uh Mr.
36:56Murphy to give us the report of the planning board.
37:07Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem members of council.
37:10Yeah, this is a rezoning request to rezone a point two three acre tract at the corner of uh West Walnut and uh South Broad from LB to PBS.
37:20Uh and it is to uh have uh a three-unit townhome building.
37:25Uh this is the subject property shown on the uh Ford 2045 growth management area plan.
37:31It is located within GMA two urban neighborhoods, and it is at an intersection that does have uh a lot of different uses.
37:39You've got uh the the property that Mr.
37:41Smith owns, which is across Walnut Street, which is actually a legally non-conforming commercial business, is actually zoned RS9.
37:51But you do have um some PBL uh within the area and a number of retail establishments that have opened over the last several years, but you do have uh this is a walkable area.
38:03You do have a lot of residential, both to the uh west and to the north northeast.
38:09Um so you know we we see this as a mixed-use area.
38:13It then it is going from LB to PBS, and they are limiting their uses to the residential type uses.
38:19Uh and so we see this as being compatible with the area plan.
38:23We see this as being a nice walkable infill area uh for some additional density.
38:29Again, subject property shown on the aerial imagery.
38:33Again, uh there is a house there.
38:36Um but it is zone LB.
38:38But the LB does allow the use of single family residential.
38:42So I can't speak to whether or not it is has been vacant or not uh that Mr.
38:49Uh this is the subject property.
38:51It actually recognizes the single family residential use of the property.
38:56Uh so it actually the recommendation is for uh single family residential, but again, it is existing LB.
39:03They are looking to uh turn this into a townhome project.
39:07It is an area that as we move forward with our next set of area plans.
39:11This is an area that I'm sure we'll be looking at for more uh mixed-use in fill, um both commercial and residential.
39:18We've actually encouraged Mr.
39:20Smith and his brother that own the property across the street to bring their property in to rezone it to commercial zoning to allow uh it to be easier for them to um switch users in and out of their building.
39:34Uh this is uh the zoning map.
39:38This is looking in uh excuse me, the zoning sign.
39:40This is looking into the subject property.
39:42That is the single family house that's on that uh on the south side of Walnut Street.
39:46This is taken from Walnut Street, so Mr.
39:48Smith and his brother's business building would be or would be behind us, behind the this viewpoint.
39:54That's looking down South Broad.
39:56Uh this is the existing single family home on the site.
40:01Again, another image looking more down South Broad.
40:06This is from the intersection of Walnut and South Broad Street.
40:09You see some of the commercial businesses on the other side of Broad Street.
40:12Again, you see the single family house in the image there on the right hand side of the street.
40:20This is looking at the intersection of Broad and Walnut.
40:25And this is looking at Mr.
40:26Smith's building across the street.
40:31And this is also looking east across Broad at some of the commercial businesses that have uh redeveloped over the last several years.
40:41This is the site plan.
40:42It is a three-unit building, uh, three townhome buildings with a parking lot to the south.
40:51Uh the request is consistent with the general recommendations of Ford 245 to provide additional housing units in a walkable uh area close to commercial uses in transit.
41:03The request would encourage development of an underutilized site with access to existing infrastructure.
41:08Uh the South Central Area Plan update recommends this parcel for single family development, which is a recognition of what was there, but there has been significant mixed use development and redevelopment in that area since the plan adoption.
41:20So we feel that this is appropriate to increase the density here on this uh subject property to three units.
41:29This was heard by the planning board in December.
41:32There were no uh speakers in opposition, and following the public hearing, the planning board did vote unanimously to recommend approval of this to the council.
41:39Thank you for the answer any questions.
41:42Any questions of Mr.
41:43Um, Councilmember Jorner?
41:46Are there any other residential spaces on that block of um Broad Street as it comes to Walnut?
42:04If you go back a couple of things, there is at least one existing house on the west side.
42:14Uh it's zoned LI, but I believe it is currently used as a house.
42:18Whenever you look across on the east side of South Broad Street, there are one, two, there are three homes and two duplexes on the east side of South Broad.
42:31Council Randre Bowen.
42:34The parking lot you're you're speaking of, is that already there and exists?
42:37Like it was kind of hard for me to see in the pictures.
42:39Is there already a parking lot there?
42:41There is not a parking lot, but there is a driveway that does come in.
42:45I believe there was an accessory structure, and you have the house.
42:48If you I can't really zoom in, but if you look, there is a driveway in that area.
42:54Um see if there's anything that shows you can see from that image right there, there is a driveway on the south side of that house, but it's not a parking lot.
43:06But again, this is only going to have six spaces in it.
43:10Are they going to have to come back for any kind of rezoning for the parking lot, or is it this is all kind of lumped in there?
43:18We have Pro Tim Adams.
43:20Murphy, I missed it.
43:22Uh the house is going to remain, or it's going to be demolished.
43:25This house will be demolished and they would build a new three-story building pulled up closer to this corner.
43:32I do know that a lot of those houses, uh older houses historical type, and I'm thinking that one is too, but I know the owner has the right to do what they want.
43:42But I was just thinking, uh, and Mr.
43:46Dickey, I'm just thinking, was there no attempt to try to allow the community to buy the house so a nonprofit to move it?
43:55Because I got a friend that lives on Broad, as a matter of fact, you sent her a letter, she called me.
44:01Uh but I was just wondering because when you see houses like this, these are the types of houses that were in the community at that time.
44:10And again, I'm just, you know, you notice every time sometimes uh these properties come to us, and if they have historical uh, you know, presence, uh, we try to hold on to them, but that's the only reason, Mr.
44:27Uh obviously, if this were in if this were a local historic landmark or was in a local historic district, uh, there would be a 365-day period on a demolition for a house in order to try to facilitate someone moving it.
44:44In this context, since it's not in a historic district and it's not a local historic landmark, that's not a tool that we have in our toolbox.
44:51Now, that would not preclude the owner from putting out an advertisement and say, hey, if you want if you want this house, you can have it, come get it.
45:00To address the concerns of losing history, we actually, if you look at the conditions of approval under the prior to issuance of demolition permits, we actually are requesting that they document the structure in accordance with and with our they would have to get in touch with our with our historic resources staff, and we would get documentation that then we would have in a file so that you know if this is torn down and not removed, we would have some historical information related to the house.
45:33I would recognize uh Councilmember Jorner for a motion if she's ready.
45:37I make a motion to approve the statement of consistency for the approval of this item.
45:47Second by Council Member Scipio.
45:49Any further discussion?
45:52If not all in favor of the motion, please indicate both voting yes.
45:55Anyone opposed, vote no.
46:15And that motion is unanimous.
46:17Thank you, Councilmember Jorner.
46:22Item G2, public hearing and consideration of zoning petition of Southern Properties of the Triad LLC from GOS to LO.
46:30Properties located at northeast intersection of Bringham Street and South Hawthorne Street, located in the Southwest ward.
46:38Is there anyone in Council Chamber who is opposed to this rezoning?
46:45Seeing no one, I'll declare the public hearing closed.
46:48Councilmember Bowen, do you need a staff report?
46:50Are you ready to move?
46:51Unless anybody else wants to hear it, no, I don't.
46:55I'll recognize you then.
46:57Uh I move for approval of one, the statement of consistency for the approval of this item, and two W-3673.
47:07Second by Councilmember Recipio.
47:09Any further discussion?
47:12Not all those in favor, please vote yes.
47:14Anyone opposed, vote no.
47:19That motion is unanimous.
47:20Thank you, Councilmember Andy Bowen.
47:23All right, we'll now go to the public comment period, which is a time uh once per month that the City Council and I invite citizens to address us on matters that are germane to city government.
47:35When each uh comment uh period uh or speaker is called, each speaker will be given three minutes for a presentation.
47:42We'd ask that you give your name and address for the record and ask that you keep your remarks uh uh courteous and uh we will uh enforce that uh if if need be.
47:55But uh tonight we have uh three individuals who have signed up to speak.
48:00Uh first person is Tara Brown.
48:11Hello, I'm my name is Tara Brown.
48:13My address is 3612 Wickershamline 27106.
48:19I'm so glad to be here and have the opportunity to share some thoughts with you all.
48:24Um I want to speak today and ask you all to prioritize energy management for the city of Winston-Salem as part of our city's facilities management plan.
48:34And I say this because improving our how our city manages energy not only is good for the environment, but it is a cost savings opportunity.
48:43In fact, estimates show up to 40,000 of cost savings per year.
48:48And that's before we account for additional savings from straightforward efficiency upgrades like LED lighting, HVAC, lighting timers, and better insulation and windows.
48:59Wasteful energy spending is not prudent.
49:02Um, it's not a prudent use of our taxpayer dollars.
49:05As a homeowner, I've learned that when you actively track and manage our energy use, you spot problems earlier.
49:11Systems running when buildings are empty, aging equipment or inefficiencies that quietly drive up costs.
49:18Proactive management prevents small issues from becoming expensive emergencies, and the same principle applies to our city's facilities.
49:26Better energy management also strengthens our city's resilience.
49:30Efficient, well-maintained buildings are more reliable during heat waves and extreme weather, like the weather we're expecting this weekend.
49:37And they can serve as cooling centers when our most vulnerable neighbors need them the most, particularly in the summer months.
49:44This kind of preparedness is becoming increasingly important as storms and heat events become more frequent.
49:50And Winston-Salem is especially vulnerable to heat events.
49:54There's also a financial and leadership case to be made for this.
50:00Cities that address climate and infrastructure risk are viewed as more favorable by credit rating agencies and are better positioned to compete for state and federal grants.
50:06They're also more attractive to employers.
50:10Prioritizing energy management demonstrates long-term fiscal responsibility and builds public trust.
50:17Finally, this is about the pu future that we are signaling, taking real steps toward the city's net zero goals that we've publicly stated.
50:25Show that Winston Salem values smart governance, public health, and economic opportunity, and that we're ready to lead by example.
50:34Thank you for your time.
50:51My name is Matthew Mayors.
50:53I live at 2844 Westleigh and Lane.
50:55Good evening, and thank you for having me this evening.
50:58Um I'm also here to cheer you on uh to save taxpayer money through energy efficiency.
51:05Um and also to thank staff.
51:07I understand that at least some baby steps have been taken to look into opportunities through a Duke Energy program, the Smart Saver Program, for at least one recenter to see how some money might be saved in that way.
51:19Which is terrific news to hear, and I hope that that can continue and expand and accelerate.
51:24Um, just as a reminder to you all about what this program does.
51:28Um, well, actually, as a reminder to y'all, if you look at your own power bill, you'll see on there a series of riders.
51:35Those are just things they add on top of how much electricity you actually use.
51:38Those pay for things like this this energy efficiency programming.
51:42We're paying for it anyway, so we may as well use it.
51:45Um of your facilities will not be eligible because they'll be considered large load customers who can opt out of paying that rider and therefore can't use the programs.
51:54But some of a lot of your facilities, like every rec center, every fire station, and so on, smaller buildings will be eligible.
52:01And what they can do with that is get up to an 80% subsidy from Duke Energy to change out to efficient lighting, like LEDs.
52:11There's some other parts of it as well, some thermostat programs, etc.
52:15Um, I think you all know many of you were on the council when you voted to change out to new LED street lights.
52:23So you all know it's a good investment whether you have a subsidy or not.
52:27It pays back quickly.
52:29When you have an 80% subsidy, that's just money on the table.
52:33And I hope that we can all agree that we should be grabbing that money and making better use of our taxpayer dollars.
52:42Brown pointed out, there's a host of reasons to do this, from environmental to uh to desirability as a place to live to financial and and fiscal, and to burnish your own to burnish your own reputations as leaders of this great city.
52:58So thanks so much for your time and let's go LEDs.
53:16Hi, Cynthia Hurston, Toyahunch, Willie Davis Drive.
53:21Good evening, Mayor and Council members.
53:23My name I'm here on behalf of Christina Handy and our four kids.
53:28I sent y'all an email.
53:30I'm pretty sure y'all got it.
53:31Thanks for responding, Scott.
53:35Winston Salem has city-owned lots, abandoned properties and housing authority partnership.
53:42Yeah, families are still being told their only options is the shelter.
53:47The city has the ability to coordinate emergency housing placement.
53:52Use city-owned property for interim housing.
53:56Intervene with housing partners to prevent displacement.
54:05In regards to Christina Handy, a court has already found that equity requires protection.
54:12The question tonight is whether the city will act before displacement becomes permanent.
54:23The city of Winston Salem should not be in the business of reacting to homelessness after the home's harm is done.
54:31We ask you to act now while intervention is still possible.
54:37You say you are passionate for housing.
54:40Can we give some of their passion for the people that belong to those houses so that they won't become homeless?
54:46Barbara Burks, she's in your district.
54:49We asked that follow-up happens before the courts they expire, so a keys don't become homeless.
54:55Shelters are not housing solution for families when the city has other tools available.
55:00I need y'all to make some of that available now, please.
55:03I'm actually begging you.
55:05Coming at you with consideration.
55:07At least to think about it long and hard.
55:09Because it can be done.
55:10We can all work together.
55:17Speaking as a constituent, asking the city to use his own resource to stop preventable.
55:24I mean, can you think about a child being left on the street?
55:29Look at that child back there sleeping.
55:31Is that gonna be his only place where he go and find shelter at some place where he can go to sleep at just for a minute just to get out the cold that's coming, that's happening.
55:43Max and y'all to respond to my answer too.
55:47If not for me, but at least think about Christina and her four kids.
55:50She's been trying hard, and she don't, she just shouldn't have this to happen to her.
55:55And there should be some kind of availability, something in it.
56:00Any of y'all can I get anybody considerational?
56:03Yep, resources for this woman, please.
56:08Out of consideration, out of empathy, out of something that should be done anyway.
56:12Again, please answer this woman complaint.
56:15Help this woman because she is a position that she didn't put herself in.
56:23Um I d'aristant city manager, Miss Dr.
56:27Right, Lanier, if you can maybe follow up with them to see if there's anything we can do to make sure getting all the resources available.
56:34That's all the individuals who signed up for a public comment period.
56:37Are there else who would like to speak during our public yes?
56:45Olivia Doyle, 215 North Peace Haven.
56:47I'm just following up with what Cynthia brought up.
56:49Um I also sent uh an email akin to hers, and Scott, you also responded.
56:55Um, just to give you an update on the things that you specifically asked about, whether we had reached out to aspire and whether we had reached out to legal aid.
57:05Legal aid has been contacted.
57:06Legal aid did assist on um, I believe one of the court dates, but did not uh thoroughly advocate for um the courts to fully look into uh the charges that have been brought against Christina as the basis of her eviction.
57:21Those charges have since been cleared, but the eviction is still standing, and that's the problem that we're facing right now is we're trying to get some sort of stay on that eviction, um, basically to make sure that she's not pushed out of public housing with her children um before she has the opportunity to find and secure an alternative housing.
57:39Of course, with her current public housing status, um, if she's got an eviction that's on her record, it makes it infinitely harder for her to get into other public housing, right?
57:49Which are options that we've looked into and we've gotten some responses on.
57:53Um, but we need that eviction to be cleared, right?
57:56Um, as for aspire, of course, aspire being the uh the city entity that manages these public housing properties and having the eviction put forth.
58:06Um, they are not being extremely cooperative in terms of um negotiating with her and helping uh get this sorted out.
58:15So basically, we're coming to the city to ask, can you help?
58:17Um, communicate with aspire, maybe push aspire a little bit um to make sure that within this court case she gets at least a month more um time to get into alternative public housing.
58:28That would be great.
58:30I'm happy to reach out to them after um uh right lanier and I talk on what she finds out.
58:36I'm happy to reach out to um Ted over at the housing authority.
58:44All right, see no one.
58:46I'll declare a public comment period closed and would enter.
58:49Oh, is there someone else?
58:57I don't know what um, I don't know what I'm allowed to say and not to say, but I would like to um I'm Christina Handy.
59:07I would like for you all to understand that Aspire has been known for bullying their tenants.
59:14They have been known for allowing criminal activity to go on.
59:17Um they have been known for just doing things that are not right, and I know somebody should know about these or should see what they're doing to the people in their community, especially people like me, people who don't deserve this.
59:36I don't lay around or sit around and do nothing all day.
59:39I've actually been working towards doing a lot, and I have urban strategies, the people that the organization that was placed there to help us with relocation services to help us with job training, which they've done none of that, by the way.
59:55A lot of the stuff that I've gotten done, I presented to them myself.
1:00:00And they they can they can attest to all of this.
1:00:04They can attest to who I am, who my family is.
1:00:06The fact that we've never caused a problem in the eight years that we were there, and for Aspire to do what they did to me, it's I feel like it should be unlawful.
1:00:15It's not right, it's wrongful.
1:00:17And nobody is doing anything about them.
1:00:20And they so many people have died there.
1:00:22So many people have lost their lives, so many mothers have lost their children.
1:00:26Nobody is doing anything about the situation.
1:00:29There's so much drug activity there.
1:00:45Well, I'll declare the public comment period closed and would recognize a motion for adjournment.
1:00:53Motion by Mayor Pro Tim, second by Councilman Hall.
1:00:55All those in favor adjourning, please say aye.