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Annapolis Environmental Matters Committee Meeting - October 9, 2025

City CouncilThursday, October 9, 2025
BodyAnnapolis, Maryland
SessionCity Council
DateThursday, October 9, 2025
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0:00

Good afternoon, everybody.

0:01

Fall into order October 9th meeting for environmental matters committee meeting.

0:07

I'm gonna take roll call.

0:09

Alderman Arnett.

0:11

Present.

0:13

Finn Lyson.

0:15

She's not gonna be able to join us today.

0:20

Let's see approval of the agenda.

0:21

I would like a motion to approve the agenda with the modification to move.

0:30

R40, R4025 to the front.

0:33

So move.

0:35

I'll second.

0:36

All those in favor, please say aye.

0:37

Aye.

0:38

Aye.

0:38

Motion carries.

0:41

Did we have a motion to approve the minutes from October 3rd?

0:47

I don't have.

0:52

Um they are not they're posted on legislator.

0:55

Oh, here they are now.

0:57

Okay.

0:57

I move we approve the minutes from October 3rd.

1:02

Is that right?

1:03

Third.

1:06

Yep.

1:06

Uh seconds.

1:07

All those in favor, please say aye.

1:09

Aye.

1:10

Aye.

1:12

And so next up is our 4025.

1:22

Equitable public water access plan.

1:25

Mr.

1:25

Leshinsky, could you join us?

1:31

So we did, I think I think we heard a briefing on this the last meeting, but do you have anything else you would like to add before we get started with discussing this further?

1:44

Uh no, I just um I don't remember exactly.

1:47

Uh well, Eric Lashinski, Chief of Comprehensive Planning.

1:51

I don't remember my exact remarks from the last meeting, but um I do want to emphasize that there are um probably a historically high number of public water access improvement projects in the CIP currently um that are sort of already underway, various stages of design and construction.

2:14

Um probably 26 projects, I believe.

2:17

So there's a lot already underway that are in this plan.

2:23

Um this draft plan, but the plan also talks about a lot of policy initiatives.

2:29

I think will really help to formalize our approach to public water access and ensure that um we're more mindful of the opportunities as they come up.

2:43

Um it's more than just physical improvements, but it's almost like uh an approach to our our our shoreline and our waterfront.

2:54

All right, do we have any questions from the no?

2:56

I I may do want to I'm glad you mentioned the policies there in the Roman numeral seven, and I think that's very good to get in there, and it's certainly consistent with what my sense of the city council has been supportive of in this report.

3:16

How many how many reports have you generated in this term, Eric?

3:21

But the only comment that I've gotten, and I've mentioned this to you from people, is there's kind of two things going on here.

3:31

One is the policy to get people in the water through public equitable public access, but then there's some concerns about the quality of the water, uh, particularly at the headwaters of Spa Creek and to some extent back creek.

3:50

Um, and I've talked to the people with those concerns and said, you know, that is a broader issue than just the city.

3:59

We have good monitoring.

4:01

We did have a sewer leak that was up by the spa creek, and we've gotten that fixed, but that's more a DNR and MDE kind of thing.

4:12

But I was having lunch with Alderman Savage, and we were speculating where where is the E.

4:20

coli coming from.

4:22

If it's not coming from sewer leaks, which I don't think it is, and maybe there's some coming off the street, but the only other possible culprit that I can think of is voters pumping overboard.

4:37

But I am wondering.

4:38

No, I'm getting a no from uh the director of public works.

4:42

So uh I'm wondering where the E.

4:44

coli, and of course it gets all stirred up when we have rain.

4:48

Where is it coming from?

4:50

And it is a concern, but I don't think we stop making public water access available because there's this in the water yeah, so just a back up a second.

5:01

Um we did and I did so I'm on the uh the representative to the Severn River Commission and and uh somebody did come and testify to that commission as well as us about concerns about Alderman's point about um some potential bacterial issues in the headwaters of Spock Creek.

5:20

What the commission and myself said is well, we need to look into that, obviously, if that it doesn't look at the data to see if there's actually a problem and speak with the public works.

5:29

So that's that's one question.

5:31

The second question would be uh general philosophy of you know, do we use that to prohibit water access or or you know, which I personally don't think we should be anyway because I'll just speak to the scientific question, Nicole.

5:44

I uh can also come from uh animal feces.

5:47

But do you have any record dogs, dogs, dear, whatever?

5:51

Do you have any record of any has there been any recent sewage overflow or sewer no?

5:58

And and keep in mind if it is coming from human sewage, it be can be coming from the sewage collection system or directly from people's homes, either through a leak in their own pipes or uh perhaps a cross-connected uh you know, plumbing.

6:16

Okay, but certainly everybody's picking up after their dog, how can it be from dog feces?

6:25

So, just as a heads up, that's something I intend to.

6:28

Um I already invited um Amy Clements, the executive director for Spock Creek Conservancy to present in January or February on some of the data they have from water quality testing.

6:39

So Director uh Vogel, it'd be good.

6:42

I think at that time, I'll probably follow up sometime if you have any kind of data about recent spills or or power at issues with the pump station there.

6:53

There really aren't, right?

6:54

I mean, so we're kind of looking for a needle in the hashtag or thought perhaps a thousand needles, um, and there has been a group get together to start doing some uh you know, but talking about DNA testing.

7:06

So the um I think it is a spot creek conservancy that partners with a local university.

7:12

So we we all got together um a few months ago and and just kind of talking through what we can do to try to pinpoint the sources.

7:21

I'll also know it's not just spot creek.

7:23

I if you go and you test anywhere close to the headwaters of any of our streams.

7:29

Uh it it, you know, when you look at those bacteria accounts in all of the sampling results, it's simply a matter of the closer you are to the headwaters and the more stagnant the water is, the higher the bacteria accounts uh following a rain event, particularly in the summer when it's warm.

7:44

Yeah.

7:45

And does the plan is only have a general philosophy in this report as far as access and how it connects to water quality and getting people exposed to the water, you know, wanting to protect it, that kind of thing.

7:59

Um well, we have lots of recommendations related to better information about water quality.

8:07

I wouldn't say there's an approach articulated in here.

8:11

I I was gonna say what Director Vogel said, which is in looking at the data for Spa Creek and Bat Creek, it's the headwaters where we're not really encouraging much more access.

8:23

It's it's those are um shallow uh areas that aren't circulating very much, and they're places to appreciate nature, but not they're not really referenced in here for public water access.

8:35

So places where we're encouraging more access to the places where there's a lot more water circulation and um there's sediment buildup for sure, but the the water quality in terms of bacteria is not as much of an issue.

8:49

So yeah, but okay.

8:51

Any comments from Deputy City Manager?

8:55

Uh thank you, Dep Jackie Guile, Deputy City Manager for Resilience and Sustainability.

9:00

Um this issue has come up a number of times, you know, within my staff and also with the Annapolis Environmental Commission and whether the city should be putting that information out on its website.

9:12

We don't do you know water testing of our creeks, you know, Spawk Creek Conservancy does that, Severn River Um Association does testing in the Severn.

9:21

Um, but it it's something that we do not currently put out as the city.

9:27

Um we've talked about perhaps doing that.

9:29

There's also been a question about whether um the fish are safe in city waters, and that's another thing that we haven't tested for.

9:38

Yeah.

9:39

Okay.

9:40

But the these comments are secondary to the report itself, which I think is very thorough and timely and consistent with console policy.

9:52

I know you have a recommendation for an amendment, but I'm certainly happy to support the resolution to um adopt the water access report.

10:03

And before we move on, just personally, um, I would say unless there's some in imminent clear public danger to as far as the heightened water college water quality issue that's gonna really endanger the public.

10:23

I would be inclined to get more people out on the water to enjoy it and want to protect it and uh because the more they get to fish it and boat on it and whatever else, then I think they'll want to improve it.

10:35

Um that's kind of my general.

10:37

I do want to I do hear the public, and I think we need to work on water quality, period, but um I just that's part of my philosophy.

10:47

Certainly germane to this committee, yeah, but not necessarily this report.

10:51

Yeah.

10:52

So as far as the report, um, are there any other general comments before we did you have any action items you wanted to highlight?

11:02

I I do want to emphasize, you know, given that there are many, many projects currently in the capital budget that we're really trying to get through, and these are substantial really um historic projects.

11:19

And you know, when you think of Cars Beach and you think of Hawkins Cove, which you know, these places are going to be sort of brand new access points that are um have high costs to implement, um, but they're gonna be really exciting, and then and then there's a lot of smaller sites that are in the pipeline as well.

11:38

Um those are just a couple examples, but what I did want to emphasize is policy initiatives that I think need to be a priority, are ensuring that when uh recommendations are made by the planning commission on uh plan development or new development, it's major site plan reviews, and there's a water access component that that information is as clearly articulated as possible on the plates and doing whatever we can to mitigate the kinds of events that happen at Wells Cove and that might happen at a couple other sites.

12:17

Um the Bill Jones Alley site.

12:21

Um there's a recommendation for that.

12:24

Um that's one example of a kind of a policy recommendation that I think is very important.

12:30

Another is um uh potential change to our adequate public facilities requirements.

12:37

There's currently no discussion of public water access in that, and and the recreation component is pretty wide open, so um, I think there's an opportunity to assess that for projects that are on the water or near the water, um, have an opportunity to invest in that way.

12:56

Um those are two particularly important ones, I think.

13:01

Uhnett.

13:03

So I think uh Mr.

13:05

Lysinski, you raise an excellent point.

13:08

Um I remember at our last environmental matters committee meeting, we were giving Mr.

13:14

Meekin too hard a time, but we were asking why certain things weren't approved in the permitting process for I think it was Brissom Square.

13:25

Um, but I've long thought that just like these um recommendations that come out of here could be plasticized.

13:36

I think the general policy recommendations from the comp there ought to be a number of things that are on every one of these desks for us as policymakers, but also for all the boards and commissions, they all meet here by and large, and having those things right here on the table where they can flip through and be reminded of what the policy prescriptions are coming from the council and uh the the city, um would really help them remember to bring you know have those things in their mind when they're thinking through.

14:16

Um, I don't think it's a hard thing to do, it'll probably have to be updated from time to time, but we have those two yellow sheets that talk about how to do our council procedures, but we could actually have a little flip chart that would have all of these policy statements could have the city mission and vision statement, the strategic plan, our um code of conduct, but it could also have all these big major policy statements, and um maybe um maybe after I'm gone, my the new senior member of the city council will take this to heart and see if we can make that happen.

14:58

Yeah, thank you, Alderman.

15:00

And so I also so going well to that point.

15:04

Yeah, I would suggest maybe giving some thought uh to some summary of of maybe plans and reports adopted within the past four years within if not longer for the council just to keep in mind and know how to refer to and you know, we might be able to and then create some kind of maybe consolidated list of action items pending.

15:32

Um but as far as the recommendation for making sure water access gets properly you know covered on the record, included in the record plat and whatever other associated documents.

15:45

Um that might be more a city manager thing as opposed to just council, some kind of internal process to make sure those probably recorded.

15:58

Uh thank you.

15:59

Um we just had this conversation with resilience planning zoning staff um the other day.

16:05

Um the resilien staff has been working with the office of law to uh verify our conservation easements and uh see which ones actually exist and don't what their parameters are.

16:15

We found in some instances where on the plat, it may designate a conservation easement or something else like we're talking about now.

16:24

That doesn't always get recorded by the office of law.

16:28

So that there's no it's much better now, of course.

16:32

But um, you know, we went going forward to make sure everything that we see on that plat, anything we've included actually gets recorded, then we don't end up in these situations like Wells Cove.

16:41

So um that is an issue um city manager level we need to address.

16:47

Thank you.

16:48

So the sake of uh moving forward, uh I have I do have some amendments related to you know, coming out of a uh Ward 7 issue, but it really it's it's it's the citywide emphasis that I'd like to put in there regarding the Crab Chesapeake Region Accessible Boating and their facility and just how it fits into ensuring access.

17:17

And you know, it's my my own position over over the years has changed and evolved as well, and um it's something I'm very proud of for the war and also for the city, and I think this just seeks to um I think create some more emphasis, but also adjust uh one of the replace one of the action items to look forward to the next council as far as getting them and staff and other boards briefed on and familiar with the the services that crowd provides.

17:50

So with that, um are there any concerns from staff or other comments regarding the proposed changes?

18:00

No, I have no concerns.

18:01

I've reviewed the amendment, and in fact, um the draft recommendation that's in the plan now, I think has been addressed by CRAB already.

18:10

And that was really just trying to get some signage that would let passers by know what the facility was all about and help people understand the mission.

18:19

So they've done that.

18:21

Um my perspective, certainly the city worked very hard to make crab a reality, and we have some investment in it, and it is obviously uh equitable water access, really making it available to people who normally would not have that.

18:41

So I don't have any I'd be happy to make a motion to support these uh amendments, particularly given the staff has no concern.

18:50

Okay.

18:51

So is that a motion to recommend R 4025?

18:56

Or sorry, recommend amendment everybody?

18:59

Okay, so move.

19:00

Uh second.

19:00

All those in favor, please say aye.

19:02

Aye, aye.

19:02

Is there a motion to recommend R 4025 as amended by the committee?

19:07

So moved.

19:07

Second, all those in favor, please say aye.

19:10

All right.

19:10

Any other comments from staff?

19:12

Only thing I would say is something that's not very well explained in the CIP, but is also very exciting.

19:18

Is a signage initiative where we've been working with the outside consultant on designs for new signs with recreation and parks, of course, and um some other departments have been involved, and we're gonna be starting to roll those out probably before the end of the year.

19:35

So it's gonna be a huge improvement, making the signs will be smaller, but much more efficient in terms in terms of the information they convey and up to date.

19:45

Um good.

19:45

I'm pretty excited about that.

19:47

Very good.

19:47

Yeah, thank you.

19:48

And thank you for taking the time to join us today.

19:51

Um moving on.

20:01

Exception to the city's prohibition on doors or gates opening over sidewalks.

20:06

We have a representative from public works to join us today.

20:15

Dr.

20:15

Noon, Burv Hogle, Director of Public Works.

20:18

Thank you.

20:18

Could you just provide some context background on this legislation?

20:24

Let's start with the gate swinging over uh out into the sidewalk.

20:28

Um in many parts of the city code.

20:31

Um I'll use the site visibility triangles is kind of a classic example.

20:36

Um I have the authority to use discretion as to whether that particular uh thing causes a safety hazard.

20:44

Now, the a little bit of a um challenge with the ordinance as it's written is it doesn't say why, but we can kind of read between the lines.

20:54

It's because if you're walking out of a door or coming from your backyard uh into a sidewalk where there isn't where you don't have a front yard, you could, you know, your door could swing in and and hit somebody who's walking by.

21:07

So with that, you know, where where that's not a situation, uh so as in the case of some sort of a storage enclosure that might be able to be located uh in the sidewalk, then you know it wouldn't pose that safety hazard, and I would uh you know be able to approve something like that, and an exception essentially.

21:29

Another situation that has uh has come up.

21:32

So, you know, the first time this came up was in the context of 181 Prince George and a uh a trash situation there with with that building.

21:41

Um, but since then have had a request for a replacing kind of a fence.

21:46

Uh that's a chain link fence in somebody's yard, the yard slopes.

21:49

So the only way the gate could swing is out if we were to swing in, it would just hit the hill side.

21:54

Again, I would like to approve that.

21:56

It's not it's been there probably for 20 or 30 years, not hurting anything, but I I really can if I want to comply with this code.

22:03

Any questions from the committee?

22:05

No, I have some familiarity with this issue.

22:08

Um's own property on conduit, and he's you're required to keep your trash cans out of view, but there was no real way to do that without putting up a fence.

22:24

So even a historic town, and it was built before some of these things were consideration.

22:30

I will ask the question.

22:32

I know older woman finlays, and uh, is this gonna place any undue burden on you and your staff to pass this legislation?

22:41

No, not at all.

22:42

Okay, I think the situations are gonna be few and far between.

22:46

Right.

22:47

Okay.

22:47

Is there a motion from the committee?

22:50

I'm I move that we move to offer a favorable recommendation on this uh 3825.

22:57

Second, all those in favor, please say aye.

22:59

Aye aye, motion carries, thank you.

23:02

Next up, we have R 3525, which is related 181 Prince George's Street Sidewalk easement.

23:09

Any background on that one.

23:12

So yeah, uh guessing you've read the staff report, you've seen the pictures, things of that nature.

23:19

Um from the public works department perspective, that trash enclosure does not obstruct the sidewalk, it's essentially in a little bit of a notch or a nook.

23:28

Um, you know, we we don't have a problem with it.

23:33

Because it doesn't extend out any further than the stairs if I maybe an inch or two, right?

23:39

Um, and I think in this particular situation, they don't have a backyard to store their trash in.

23:46

Is that correct?

23:47

It's a little bit of a complicated building.

23:49

Uh that is my understanding is it's three separate apartments, two of which have backyards on East Street.

23:58

Uh the trash containers of the of the unit that fronts Prince George uh does not have any storage at all.

24:09

So the only place they can keep their trash cans as the lot is configured today is either inside or out on the sidewalk on Prince George.

24:18

All right, any questions from the committee?

24:21

Nope.

24:22

No, yeah.

24:22

I I think for the record, I think this is uh appropriate use of a resolution.

24:27

We've done this before for specific circumstances without having to change the overall code.

24:32

So I don't have any issues.

24:34

Are there any um is the recommendation from the committee?

24:36

I move that we recommend favorably on uh resolution 3520.

24:42

I'll second that.

24:43

All those in favor, please say aye.

24:44

Aye.

24:45

Motion carries, thank you, director.

24:47

Thank yes, thank you for coming.

24:48

It's always helpful for us to hear from the staff, particularly the leadership.

24:52

So I thought it was important since we did get public testimony.

24:56

I I saw this.

24:57

Yeah.

24:58

Uh all right.

25:09

Okay.

25:13

All right.

25:13

Next, we have I believe ID2125 resilience sustainability update.

25:21

Is there anything else?

25:23

Oh, um, I don't think we will need need you for anything else.

25:30

Okay.

25:32

Assuming you don't have anything for her.

25:36

Okay, so we had quite a few new items come up updates.

25:41

Um, one that's the first on the document that I provided you is um the grant that the resilience authority obtained for the city of Annapolis and our technical consultants that was to devise a model code, a resilience-based model code for smaller buildings, presidential buildings.

26:00

And there were technical consultants, clearly energy and meet that were um gathering data and looking at other cities, what they did and what figuring out would be the best model code for the city, and then we could choose to adopt it or not.

26:12

And we have um had one of the planners from planning and zoning also working on this project with me and the resilience authority.

26:20

However, last week early, we started hearing the rumblings from the federal government that they're going to eliminate a number of DOE grants that they felt were not consistent with the federal government administration's goals and priorities, and about 7.5 billion dollars worth of grants, 223 grants and all were canceled, including this grant.

26:42

Um, our partners received notice last week and yesterday.

26:47

The resilience authority has still not been notified.

26:50

Um they are in there, our technical partners are working as feverishly as they can to provide us whatever data information and outline for a model resilience code they can before receiving final notice that this is canceled, at least the resilience authority.

27:07

So there's 30 days to appeal.

27:11

Um, once the resilience authority receives its notification, we'll have to meet as a group and decide we're going to appeal this.

27:16

It could be a situation like many of the other um mass grant terminations where the state's attorneys get together and appeal on that decision.

27:26

So for right now, that pro this project is not moving forward.

27:30

Okay, just something to keep in mind if the appeal is not successful.

27:36

Um we could always look to fund this with if we have one-time use money again in the next budget, potentially using this right for that purpose.

27:47

So, you know, there is we'll see what kind of information we get from our partners in this project, and that could be as a starting point for to work with planning and zoning on a uh resilience-based model code.

28:01

So some work has been done.

28:02

We'll just have to see what we get by the time the final cancellation and final nail is put in the coffin of the project.

28:10

Um, so then there's two more projects that that are DOE funded that are second on this list, and that's the LED street lights funding and the LED retrofit for historic district lights, and um also the Cobrahead street lights.

28:25

Um, I haven't had a chance yet to go through the whole list of DOE cancellations, so we will see if those are defunded as well.

28:33

So I'll update you on that next time.

28:35

Um let's see.

28:38

Um we did this, we did complete with TANCO lighting the initial assessment of um replacing, I mean, acquiring all of our street lights right now.

28:50

EGE owns some of the street lights, maintain them, uh maintains them.

28:54

The city owns another portion, but BGE maintains them, and then there are city owned and maintained lights, and they tenco lighting did an analysis for the city on the savings we could realize if we owned and maintained all of our own lights, and it's significant, especially over a 20-year period.

29:11

So um resilience staff met with um director um Vogel and other staff been in plan in public works and you know went over the findings with TANCO lighting, and we have to go from there to see if we now want to do um figure out if we want to go forward with um purchasing those lights from BGE.

29:33

Um there's a Maryland state law that was passed within the last year that gives us the right, every municipality and other local jurisdiction to purchase its own street lights.

29:43

So we'll determine if we should go forward with that.

29:46

See our greenhouse gas emissions inventory is complete, and we're moving on to the climate action plan phase.

30:00

So Caramita, our consultant is put together stakeholder work groups from the public, nonprofits, and staff, and is um scheduling those stakeholder group meetings to further feed the climate action plan.

30:08

And then we'll have community meetings once we have a draft of that plan and then move towards final plan.

30:14

Our goal is to have a final plan at the end of the year, the calendar year.

30:21

Let's see.

30:22

Moving down to ecological enhancement.

30:25

The demonstration program to build green roofs on city belt shelters.

30:34

For a pilot program for green roofs on five bus shelters to start with.

30:44

And Central Services is waiting for a proposal from the company that received the contract to maintain our existing green roofs.

30:52

So they're waiting that it makes sense for them to do the project, depending on what their proposal is.

30:58

So we're just waiting for a proposal to see what the cost would be to do install design and install five green roofs.

31:05

Once those green roofs are installed, we will tack them on to our existing maintenance contract that we just put together.

31:14

Would that need any additional funds to pack it onto that contract?

31:19

Or can it be absorbed?

31:21

I believe that it can be absorbed.

31:24

They're fairly small.

31:33

The electric streetcar um trolley feasibility study is moving forward.

31:39

The resilience authority has started with a first draft that they just circulated recently and are seeking staff comments on before they finalize that RFP for a feasibility study.

31:51

For which one?

31:53

Which one?

31:56

The trolley.

31:56

Oh, yeah.

31:59

I was reading the pollinator.

32:01

I know I'm on an electric street car trolley.

32:03

Um, so the resilience authority circulated a draft.

32:06

I believe you have receded Alderman Savage, and they're seeking comments on that before they move forward with an RFP.

32:13

Did you get notice that the trolling museum is having an event tomorrow night?

32:19

Yeah.

32:21

Well, Mr.

32:22

Trolls on top of it.

32:24

I can get a couple days behind my emails.

32:27

And I'm planning to meet with the Tampa trolley system at the end of October when I'm in Tampa for the ICMA conference.

32:35

Um they were more than happy.

32:37

We met them in Portland, as you know, Alderman Savage, and then they um invited us to stay in contact, and I contacted them recently.

32:44

So I'll be meeting with them on the last week of October.

32:49

Trying to figure out a way to go down there too.

32:53

Okay, and then moving down to the next item, the City Ferry um pilot project.

32:58

Um, we have revised our RFP for the City Ferry project to a hybrid electric diesel.

33:06

Um, this was done at the recommendation, we'll call it of the federal government in order to um unpause our grant.

33:15

And it was uh we resubmitted, we submitted our quest for change of propulsion.

33:20

It was granted by the FTA, a new agreement has been received and approved by the Department of Labor.

33:26

So now we may move forward with a revised RFP to build two ferries.

33:31

They've accepted.

33:33

They've accepted it and we are approved to move forward.

33:36

Interesting.

33:37

So I expect from Central Services, they promised a uh draft for final review by tomorrow, and then we'll get that moving for advertising.

33:49

So as long as it includes fossil fuels in some capacity, they're good with it.

33:55

Yeah.

33:56

Basically, the information that was received was if you did not meet priorities of the Trump administration, your grant application would be pulled and re-reviewed.

34:07

And if it did not, it was not consistent, then it could be denied or revised to be consistent with Trump administration priorities.

34:17

So we had a choice of basically dropping it all together or revising the grant application.

34:25

Um let's see.

34:26

Um I'm gonna flip over to page seven um and to the electric leaf lower program, um, both the rebate and assistance, um, the rebate assistance and the enforcement.

34:40

So we went live with the rebate program on October 1st.

34:44

The Chesapeake Bay Trust is administering the program for the city.

34:48

There are links on the city website, which take you straight to the application, has a little description of what the pro rebate program is, and then it takes you to the application with the Chesapeake Bay Trust.

35:00

It also explains the Chesapeake Bay Trust is administering the program for the city.

35:02

Um tried to check in today to see where we're at with requests for rebates.

35:08

Um I did not get a response from the trust today.

35:11

Um, but the mailers went out just the beginning of this week.

35:16

I know that Alderman Arnett has received his mailer with information about the rebates.

35:20

The rebates are up to 100 for residential um and for $1,500 for commercial line landscapers and lawn care businesses.

35:30

Um we have 105,000 in our budget for this program total.

35:36

Now I know there's been a lot of concern and um ideas and other expressions of interest and increased enforcement for the leaf blower ban.

35:48

Um the planning and zoning and public works um have authorized their inspectors, all the inspectors, as part of their regular duties to investigate um complaints about the illegal use of leaf flow um gas power leaf flowers and to issue warnings and citations.

36:07

In addition, we have approved a part-time temporary position for focused and targeted leaf blower violations.

36:16

So one person who would be patrolling city streets, seeking out violations and issuing citations.

36:24

So I'm working with human resources right now to get that um position approved and advertised.

36:30

And that would be that position would exist for about three months, and they part of the conditions of employment would be um that that person we hire would be available to testify in court, someone appealed a citation to until March of 2026.

36:46

So on that, uh, there's been one concern raised by a colleague.

36:52

And um, so the issue was that I think there are a row of a series of homes nearby each other and uh the same landscaper went to each one with the gas powered leaf blower, but only one of the residents received a fine.

37:08

Yeah, and uh I think and so I think I think some protocol might be worthwhile creating internally as far as I would suggest that a priority be given to uh sending notices to as many of the nearby homeowners just to make them aware, but also prioritize um uh trying to issue a fine to the landscaper first if we can if there's a company we could even serve.

37:39

Uh in this case, I was told that there may be may have been a larger firm that had trucks uh uh with um clear business name and entity that we may be able to take enforcement on, but it seemed like instead they just went right to the homeowner.

37:55

And I see the wisdom in notifying the homeowner, but I do think landscapers should be, you know, if there's somebody to find with the landscaper or enforce a fine, I think we should probably prioritize that and then go to the also notify the homeowner at the same time.

38:11

But I just I just don't want the homeowners to get the fines first, unless that's the only alternative.

38:18

That makes sense.

38:19

Yes, and I can explore it further with planning and zoning, but they feel strongly that staff plan zoning enforcement staff feels strongly that it you're not supposed to that they hired the landscaper and therefore they are responsible for what happens on their property.

38:35

Yeah, I think yeah.

38:39

But wait, we can have a further discussion with them about that.

38:42

But I think part of that might be did the property owner even have a contract with the landscape company, or they just mistakenly use a leaf blower on their property.

38:53

I see your point.

38:53

Okay.

38:54

I I don't know.

38:55

Yeah.

38:56

Presumably the enforcement officer can dig into that work.

38:59

And work that out.

39:00

Right.

39:01

Okay.

39:05

All right.

39:12

Um, on our uh public engagement and education front.

39:16

Um sorry, Alderman Arnett.

39:20

Thank you.

39:20

I um I want I'm on page eight with the uh task force.

39:26

I I do have a question about that report, but again, I want to publicly thank the task force members uh for a report that I must admit exceeded my expectations.

39:42

Um given the broad mandate they were given in the extremely short time period, and I know a lot of good work, but I also want to recognize you, Director, because I know the you and the uh Harbor Master really provided great staff support for that.

40:01

I I really can't get over how good the report, and of course I love their recommendations, but uh it was an amazing effort, and I want to thank everybody.

40:14

Well, thank you.

40:14

Appreciate that.

40:15

And um, Tim Jacobs in particular of the Harbor Master staff um put in a great deal of effort and kept them very organized, but we picked two very good chairmen of that group, and they were really a pleasure to work with.

40:28

Um that has to that report needs to be accepted by the So I understand they withdrew it to make some editorial changes.

40:39

It they what they were doing at the special work session was to just present it.

40:44

Right.

40:44

But now it has to be made part of a resolution to be accepted by the case.

40:49

So is there one being drafted?

40:51

Because yes, and it's on my list to check back in with the chairs to see you know if they have a final draft for me so that we can go forward.

40:58

It's not happening tomorrow on Monday, so it better happen by the 27th.

41:03

Exactly.

41:04

I'd hate to see it get wasted.

41:06

No, no, it won't.

41:07

I mean, there's just some minor things to do, and it may well be in my email right now.

41:11

Okay, good.

41:12

Yes.

41:12

Thank you.

41:13

But again, thanks for all the efforts from the city staff.

41:17

Thank you.

41:18

Okay.

41:20

Um I already mentioned the conservation research.

41:24

So um back to public education and engagement.

41:27

I'm moving to um October being energy awareness and efficiency month um nationally.

41:33

Um, so we've prepared social media posts for our PIO to put out during October for residential easy things you could do to be more energy efficient and save money um on your energy bill.

41:45

Um, also our new employee Ashley Diaz is going to be putting out every other month a resilience and sustainability newsletter, just like a two-pager at the most, with some highlights, um, something that's available publicly, people can subscribe to and available on our website so we can make sure people are getting the up-to-date information about what we're doing on the resilience sustainability front.

42:09

We'll take any suggestions that you may have regarding that or topic um you'd like to see included.

42:16

Um questions there.

42:18

Okay.

42:19

And the last item I have on my list is our climate change litigation.

42:23

Um this past Monday, October 6th, or arguments were heard before the Supreme Court of Maryland.

42:30

Um it was a joint appeal by the city of Baltimore, the city of Annapolis, the Andrundel County.

42:36

Um, the argument had been um in the lower courts that these jurisdictions could not use state law, which is much more favorable to federal law.

42:45

So um we will not have a decision from the Supreme Court on for at least 60 to 90 days.

42:54

And that is all I have, unless you have questions on any other item.

43:00

I think so.

43:01

Yep.

43:03

Thank you very much.

43:04

All right.

43:04

I think I can does this get sent to all council members.

43:11

It does not.

43:12

I that's actually not a bad idea.

43:15

Yeah.

43:15

Yeah.

43:16

You know, my hope for the next council is that we really really improve on at least disseminating information.

43:29

You know, you heard earlier my idea about putting plastic documents on these desks, but um I hear from constituents all the time, and that part of that is my shortcoming.

43:44

But you know, we didn't know that was happening.

43:47

Um, and I do think we need to do a better job of letting our constituents, but I think we need to do a better job of letting each other uh know about things.

43:58

One of the things that Theresa Sutherland and I agreed on very much was that we we have this three-person committee meetings, and I think they're necessary for the deep dive, but that means six other people don't necessarily I have no idea what economic matters is doing or housing is doing, and so but this is a hefty report.

44:25

It's a good documentation of the good work we're doing as a city.

44:29

I think we're really still in the vanguard of environmental issues and caring, and I know our constituents, mine are very strong on environment.

44:39

So um I know it's potentially more paper being printed out, but sharing the wealth I think is a good idea, and I would recommend sending it to everybody.

44:51

Okay, I can send this one out and explain what it is.

44:54

What I do with this is I send it obviously to this committee.

45:00

Um I send it to the environmental commission, um, and then I copied the mayor, the city manager, the chief of staff, and then our community abudsman, PIO, and also um the mayor's advisor Brian Callahan, just because they received calls from the outside from residents and others, and they have a quick reference on some of these issues we're handling right now.

45:18

And I have actually used it for that reason.

45:20

I would get a call, and I had this right on top of my cluttered desk.

45:25

And I could answer somewhat intelligently.

45:28

Yeah.

45:29

And it's not comprehensive, obviously.

45:31

I entitled it highlights because it would be twice as big if we put everything we're working on in there.

45:37

Right.

45:38

But it is we have several iterations of it, so you can go back and get that.

45:44

Yes, Caitlin has all of them listed on our agenda for the year.

45:50

So that would our agenda.

45:52

Is there anything else we've got to the order?

45:56

Well, I'd like to say, you know, this is our last minute meeting together, Alden Ronette, as well as all the women from Lysing.

46:04

And um, you know, you and I have been on this, I think for eight years.

46:07

Yep.

46:08

So I've got to say longer than that.

46:10

Yeah.

46:12

Well, she took a little break.

46:14

Um, but I gotta say it's been uh been a joy, and I think we've really made with both of you.

46:21

Um you especially since you've been on a little longer with me.

46:23

I just but I'd say it's we've gone through a lot of uh big issues.

46:28

We passed and a lot of good legislation and and uh and amendments, and so I'm really proud of the work we've done together.

46:37

And just wanted to relay a big thank you to you for all your guidance and um digging into the stuff that you've done over the years.

46:46

No, I I agree.

46:47

Um I I also was on this committee with uh candidate Littman.

46:54

Um, and of course, my family background is strong in environment, but I do think you and we have made some improvements, just like sending this to everybody.

47:06

The updates that we get that Frank Bieber started and Mike Meekins is carried on about the status of current projects, really ought to be disseminated to the whole council, uh, because we all get questions on that.

47:20

But um, I think you have put the environmental meet when the staff are thinking about projects that are not necessarily there in their forefront, like current planners or things like that.

47:37

So I do feel that this particular committee has made a lot of progress over the last eight years, and I attribute that to your leadership.

47:46

So thank you.

47:47

Well, thank you very much.

47:49

And thank you to Old Roman Fasin.

47:51

I don't know if she's gonna be listening to this, but I think she's also brought a very helpful perspective and uh and years on Ilga.

48:00

Yeah, which is advocating outside of the city right on the bay.

48:05

That's right.

48:06

Yeah, we we will need a representative for that.

48:09

I think next term, actually.

48:12

And from the staff perspective, it's been an absolute pleasure working with all three of you.

48:18

Yeah, thank you.

48:19

And and I'm gonna see you again, but thank you for it has been a joy.

48:25

Um thank you to Miss Jackson and Ms.

48:29

Reuter for all your work supporting the committee.

48:40

That's because Sheila was in here.

48:42

Yeah, that's right.

48:44

We never talk about it.

48:45

Well, I guess we could delay for another few minutes.

48:50

All right, is there a motion to adjourn?

48:52

I'll move.

48:52

I'll second all those in favor, please say aye.

48:55

Aye, aye.

48:56

Meetings adjourned.

48:57

Thank you.

49:24

Let's give them a round of applause.

49:36

And lastly, I'd like to recognize members of the caucus of African American leaders, caucus of African American leaders, please stay in.

49:44

Caucus of African American leaders, please stay.

50:00

The Caucus of African American Leaders make quarterly with a number of elected officials, including Governor Westmore.

50:04

We've been doing this since the governor came into office and since the next speaker came into office.

50:10

We've had a partnership with County Executive Stuart Pittman that have produced some incredible results in our county.

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Summary of Proceedings

Annapolis Environmental Matters Committee Meeting - October 9, 2025

The Environmental Matters Committee met on October 9, 2025, from 3:04 PM to 3:52 PM in City Council Chambers. Chair Alderman Savidge presided with Alderman Arnett present; Alderwoman Finlayson was absent. The committee recommended three pieces of legislation favorably and received an update on resilience and sustainability initiatives.

Discussion Items

R-40-25 Equitable Public Water Access Plan

  • Deputy City Manager for Resilience and Sustainability Guild, Director of Public Works Vogel, and Chief of Comprehensive Planning Leshinsky presented the plan. Leshinsky noted a historically high number of public water access improvement projects (approximately 26) already underway in the Capital Improvement Program.
  • Alderman Savidge expressed support for the plan but raised concerns about water quality, particularly E. coli in Spa Creek headwaters. He speculated on sources (e.g., sewer leaks, boaters, animal feces) and emphasized that water quality issues should not prevent expanding public water access, as more exposure leads to greater public desire to protect waterways.
  • Director Vogel noted that bacteria counts are highest in stagnant headwaters where access is not encouraged, and that the city does not currently post water quality data.
  • Deputy Guild mentioned that the Annapolis Environmental Commission previously discussed whether the city should put water quality information on its website but does not itself conduct creek testing.
  • The committee adopted Amendment #1 (sponsored by Savidge) to emphasize the role of the Chesapeake Region Accessible Boating (CRAB) facility in equitable access. Alderman Arnett moved to recommend the amendment; it passed on voice vote.
  • Alderman Arnett then moved to recommend R-40-25 favorably as amended; the motion passed on voice vote.

O-38-25 Exception to the City's Prohibition on Doors or Gates Opening Over Sidewalks

  • Director Vogel explained that the current code prohibits gates swinging over sidewalks for safety reasons, but sometimes exceptions are warranted (e.g., where a gate cannot swing inward due to a slope, or for a storage enclosure that does not obstruct the sidewalk). The legislation would allow the Director of Public Works to grant exceptions.
  • Alderman Arnett moved to recommend O-38-25 favorably; the motion passed on voice vote.

R-35-25 181 Prince George Street Sidewalk Easement

  • Director Vogel described a trash enclosure that encroaches slightly on the sidewalk but does not obstruct it, and noted the property has no backyard storage. The resolution would waive the prohibition for this specific case.
  • Alderman Arnett moved to recommend R-35-25 favorably; the motion passed on voice vote.

ID-21-25 Resilience & Sustainability Update

  • Deputy Guild provided a comprehensive update on numerous projects:
    • A DOE grant to develop a resilience-based model code for smaller buildings was terminated by the federal government (part of $7.5 billion in grant cancellations). The city may appeal or use one-time funds if the appeal fails.
    • LED street light retrofit projects (DOE-funded) may also be affected; an update will be provided at the next meeting.
    • An assessment by TANCO Lighting showed significant savings if the city owns and maintains all its street lights; the city is exploring purchasing BGE-owned lights under a new Maryland law.
    • The greenhouse gas emissions inventory is complete; a climate action plan is being developed with stakeholder work groups and community meetings, with a target final plan by the end of the calendar year.
    • A pilot program for green roofs on five bus shelters is awaiting a proposal from a contractor; maintenance costs may be absorbed into an existing contract.
    • An electric streetcar/trolley feasibility study is moving forward; a draft RFP has been circulated. Deputy Guild plans to meet with the Tampa trolley system for insights.
    • The city ferry pilot project has been revised to hybrid electric-diesel propulsion, which was necessary to unpause a federal grant. The FTA approved the change; an RFP for two ferries will be advertised shortly.
    • The electric leaf blower rebate program went live on October 1st, administered by the Chesapeake Bay Trust. Rebates are up to $100 for residential and $1,500 for commercial users. $105,000 is budgeted. A part-time temporary enforcement position will be hired for three months to issue citations; staff are also authorized to investigate complaints.
    • Alderman Arnett raised a concern about a landscaper using gas leaf blowers on multiple properties but only one homeowner being fined. He recommended prioritizing fines to landscapers when identifiable. Deputy Guild will discuss with planning and zoning staff.
    • The Conservation Easement Task Force report was praised; it needs to be finalized and submitted to the full Council for acceptance via resolution.
    • October is Energy Awareness Month; social media posts and a new bimonthly resilience newsletter are being launched.
    • Arguments in the climate change litigation (joint appeal by Annapolis, Baltimore, and Anne Arundel County) were heard by the Maryland Supreme Court on October 6; a decision is expected in 60-90 days.
  • Alderman Arnett requested that the resilience update be shared with the full Council, not just the committee. Deputy Guild agreed to distribute it.

Farewell Remarks

  • Chair Savidge and Alderman Arnett exchanged thanks for years of collaboration on environmental issues, acknowledging the contributions of Alderwoman Finlayson (absent) and staff. Deputy Guild also thanked the committee.

Key Outcomes

  • Minutes from October 3, 2025, were approved on voice vote.
  • R-40-25 (Equitable Public Water Access Plan) was recommended favorably as amended (voice vote, all in favor).
  • O-38-25 (Exception to doors/gates over sidewalks) was recommended favorably (voice vote, all in favor).
  • R-35-25 (181 Prince George Street sidewalk easement) was recommended favorably (voice vote, all in favor).
  • The committee received the Resilience & Sustainability Update and directed staff to share it with the full Council.
  • The meeting adjourned at 3:52 PM.

Meeting Transcript

Good afternoon, everybody. Fall into order October 9th meeting for environmental matters committee meeting. I'm gonna take roll call. Alderman Arnett. Present. Finn Lyson. She's not gonna be able to join us today. Let's see approval of the agenda. I would like a motion to approve the agenda with the modification to move. R40, R4025 to the front. So move. I'll second. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries. Did we have a motion to approve the minutes from October 3rd? I don't have. Um they are not they're posted on legislator. Oh, here they are now. Okay. I move we approve the minutes from October 3rd. Is that right? Third. Yep. Uh seconds. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. And so next up is our 4025. Equitable public water access plan. Mr. Leshinsky, could you join us? So we did, I think I think we heard a briefing on this the last meeting, but do you have anything else you would like to add before we get started with discussing this further? Uh no, I just um I don't remember exactly. Uh well, Eric Lashinski, Chief of Comprehensive Planning. I don't remember my exact remarks from the last meeting, but um I do want to emphasize that there are um probably a historically high number of public water access improvement projects in the CIP currently um that are sort of already underway, various stages of design and construction. Um probably 26 projects, I believe. So there's a lot already underway that are in this plan. Um this draft plan, but the plan also talks about a lot of policy initiatives. I think will really help to formalize our approach to public water access and ensure that um we're more mindful of the opportunities as they come up. Um it's more than just physical improvements, but it's almost like uh an approach to our our our shoreline and our waterfront. All right, do we have any questions from the no? I I may do want to I'm glad you mentioned the policies there in the Roman numeral seven, and I think that's very good to get in there, and it's certainly consistent with what my sense of the city council has been supportive of in this report. How many how many reports have you generated in this term, Eric? But the only comment that I've gotten, and I've mentioned this to you from people, is there's kind of two things going on here. One is the policy to get people in the water through public equitable public access, but then there's some concerns about the quality of the water, uh, particularly at the headwaters of Spa Creek and to some extent back creek. Um, and I've talked to the people with those concerns and said, you know, that is a broader issue than just the city. We have good monitoring. We did have a sewer leak that was up by the spa creek, and we've gotten that fixed, but that's more a DNR and MDE kind of thing.

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