I'll have a big model.

Okay.

Um call the meetings over there at 404.

I'm calling a meeting to order as it's 4.04 p.m.

I also have um Alderman Rob Savage in the pulpit with me.

Not the pulpit, but in the uh in attendance with me.

Okay.

So first we have um the approval agenda.

Approval of the agenda.

Uh so moved.

Any okay, no changes.

Uh are you making it?

Do you want to I would like to see um if anyone would like to approve the agenda?

Okay, yeah, move approval of the agenda.

Okay.

Do we have to second?

Yeah, you second this.

I will second the agenda.

So it has been moved and approved that the agenda be accepted.

All in favor.

Aye.

Now we'll have our the business and miscellaneous.

Um yes.

Minutes.

Uh could I move approval of the minutes from January 14th?

Yes, you may.

It's been approved that we accept the minutes of January the 14th.

Can anyone second the minutes?

Can we have someone to second?

I can do it, right?

Yes.

Okay, I will do it.

Okay.

And then uh ask the vote.

Ask the vote.

We're gonna have the vote for the minutes.

Really?

Okay.

Now we're gonna have a vote on the minutes.

Aye.

I okay.

The minutes have been approved.

Okay, now we're gonna get down to business.

Um at this time, we're gonna ask Captain Thacker and Sergeant Wayne, please come forward for the speed camera program discussions.

Please good afternoon, Madam Chair and Alderman.

Good afternoon, Madam Chair.

Alderman.

Good afternoon.

Okay.

Good afternoon, Captain Thacker from the Annapolis Police Department.

I know that we're here to discuss the uh the speed camera program, uh the expansion of said program at a very high level.

Uh I can report on two things right now.

Um the law office is still in uh discussions with Red Speed, and I at this point I I believe they're their attorneys as well.

And Miss Ashley Leonard is is representing here, and she's been the probably the lead uh representative from the city law office to speak to all of that.

I've been uh following uh uh in-depth with a very long email chain back and forth and the discussions that are going on.

The second thing that I can report is Sergeant Wang has a scheduled meet with city engineers and Red Speed, a representative from Red Speed uh on Tuesday, upcoming up next week, to go out to three of the locations that have been identified and we did a uh a data analysis on.

So um sorry, my do you have anything we want to elaborate on?

No, so we have a meeting set up for next Tuesday with uh Erwin Lanier from Red Speed and uh Jeffrey Wentz from Public Works, he's the traffic engineer.

Uh he's actually been helping us also with uh the location of three cameras in the locations would be West Street near the library in that area, uh Tyler Avenue in Stephanie Lane area, and then Edgewood Road and Edward Road and uh Tallwood Road area.

Um Rob would like to ask thank you, madam chair.

Um yeah, just a I guess thank you for joining us again.

Just a couple follow-up questions.

Um and I will get to uh Ms.

Leonard.

I saw your email.

I had I took a quick read, I'm trying to find it again, but uh uh but first a few other questions.

Um to the police department, I think I'm sorry, I couldn't quite hear everything.

You may have said this already, but has this you last time you were referencing a speed study that still needed to be done for uh I don't know if it was for the particular locations or a study for all the locations, potential locations at once.

Correct.

So right, last time I was here we were waiting on our second speed study for these locations.

Um so just due to the weather lately and with all this snow and ice, these they have to meet certain conditions to conduct these studies.

Yeah, and there's no way they can conduct the studies with this, you know, with this weather.

Um so Red Speed has agreed that you know, with the first study that we that they conducted, they can use those numbers and we can move forward with uh looking at the locations of the cameras.

Okay, so they determined uh this study may not actually be needed at this point in time to move forward with which locations, all four of them, or just at this so three locations have been approved.

So we're looking at West Street near the library, uh Tyler Avenue near Stephanie Stephanie Lane, and then Edgewood Road near like Tallwood area, Brightwater Drive area.

Um I think the other one makes a great one.

So the right the fourth location we were looking at was Duke of Gloucester um out here, but the uh the numbers were very low, very low.

It's kind of what I heard might be the case.

All right.

Um just make a note.

We should probably let um Alderman from Ward One know.

Um but um very glad to hear we'll be able to move forward with um Edgewood and um Tyler for sure because I know I've personally gotten a lot of complaints about those roads.

So excuse me.

So that's good.

Um but that does hit on one of the points that I wanted to bring up as far as contract, and this gets to email from Ms.

Leonard, and so just summarizing paraphrasing what I recall without being able to find it right now, is that there are a lot of details in the contract that are confidential, so the entirety of the contract can't be shared.

Um because we were getting a request, I think, from the transportation board to see a copy, and I guess have you let them know or should the I have not reached back out to the transportation board yet because they had a lot of other specific questions, and Red Speed is reviewing those and hoping to get answers back, but I was going to do a comprehensive answer to them at that point.

And I would probably copy you guys as well.

Um this commit this committee as well with those answers.

Yeah, great.

Yeah, please do.

Um but some of the big picture questions I have, and feel free to speak up if I'm getting too specific.

I'm sure you will.

Um would be so we did express some desire to have as a council some more control over where the cameras go.

I'm glad that they're mostly going with what we were recommending as well.

Uh, but is there anything in the contract that could be changed, just like if for example, if we passed a resolution with some um locations that we really wanted to have speed cameras at.

And and I and I guess don't get me completely wrong, because I do think I do think the decisions need to be backed by by data, right?

Um I do think the report is valuable.

Um, but I guess could we ever get in a situation where the report shows um that there are well, I guess thinking out loud, if a report does indicate that there are enough violations, enough speeders right to warrant a camera.

Presumably there would be enough justification there to install one on the part of the contractor.

Yeah, I mean, is uh keeping in mind that we um the we're paying the contractor service fees, so some of it will be somewhat subject to what the city can afford um for the services and how many spaces are there.

Um as for a resolution, that's always within the council's discretion.

Um keeping in mind that it would have to sort of be subject to sort of an internal review of what is feasible, what the system would work for things of that nature.

Um of course you are within your authority to suggest locations as well.

So I guess part of it seems to come down to the cost mechanism.

And I get that at least somewhat that may be confidential.

As far as how much money they can uh what percentages.

Yeah, most of these companies consider their pricing models confidential.

Um, which doesn't mean we couldn't potentially share it in a more limited fashion, but I'm not sure we could share it at a full public committee meeting or um an advisory board meeting.

But that that's one of the questions I have asked to some extent, and I will let you guys know when I get feedback.

Yeah, and I you know I maybe a closed meeting of some kind might be but warranted, but I guess the and keep in mind that we're currently negotiating possible price change.

Right.

So we might want to, I mean, and we haven't gotten any sort of official updates on that yet.

So it might be premature to be able to share with you anything that is currently relevant.

Yeah, I mean I think we have plenty to deal with.

We don't need to be involved in those meetings.

But the again, the bigger picture is that I would I want to make sure we get to a point where well I guess the determination, I think as you alluded to in your email is going to be the department.

If you feel like we need to get an updated contract, I think there are some benefits to putting it out to bid, but then again, it sounds like some of the equipment is technically considered theirs.

You all of the equipment is there.

So with um with these companies, if you were going to put it out to bid, you would essentially be switching out.

I believe my understanding is you'd be switching out the systems, the software, the equipment.

So if you if you switch to a different vendor of some sorts, you would essentially be resetting everything up and everything else would have to be removed from the current vendor.

Not that it can't be done, but there would it would require a little bit more coordination and probably time to get you know um a new vendor up and running.

Has there been any dialogue with any other potential vendors just to see if there would be a reason to put it out to bid again to get a better deal or better features?

I don't know.

I'm not aware of any, but that doesn't always include me until later on in the stages, so I'm I'm not sure if procurement or um the police department has looked.

Yeah, I guess it's gonna come down to the police department and your finances.

I mean, this I would not be surprised if this question came up during the budget presentations.

Um, because I do know the chair of the finance committee is also keen on um the camera program.

Um but just as far as how we handle those costs and again, just I I don't we don't know the budget as well as you all do in the department, but um I think the council would definitely be supportive if you felt like there was justification to because it's a very old contract.

Um it is, it's a very old contract.

I mean, and that's part of the negotiations right now is that we need to do if we're going if the decision by the department is to stay with this vendor, we do need to do significant overhauls to reflect um not only the passage of time but also state laws that got passed in uh fall of 2025.

Oh right.

So um there's there's a host of things that need to be addressed.

Okay.

And I do have in my notes for the meeting the letter from the transportation board.

Um, but uh you know, we just received this too, so I haven't really fully digested this.

Um but they are asking about revenue split walk away fee.

Yes, they and I think I bel I believe I passed most of those questions along to Red Speed.

We might not be able to give them a complete detailed access.

Um, but Red Speed did indicate that they might be able to provide some some information.

Okay.

Um from a legal standpoint, an advisory board, not that I that they don't need the information, but it would be harder to go keep that information confidential.

Sure.

Um than it would be to maybe have a closed session with council.

Is there anybody here from the transportation board in the audience?

She's on a way.

Oh, she's on the way.

Okay.

Yeah.

But that being said, to the extent I can share information and Red Speed authorizes me to share information.

I am happy to do so.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's understandable.

No, I was just asking because I think it'd be good to know exactly what why they're asking, what they're looking for.

Is it just efficiencies or some other specific improvement recommendation from the board?

I'm not sure to be honest.

Okay.

Well, uh still um all right.

Well, I think that's all agenda.

That's all I have.

No, I don't have any questions at this time.

Okay.

Thank you for your time.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I don't know how they're interested in that.

Next, we would like to have um Marcus Moore and Jason Prolo.

Please come.

Will we?

Transportation Department update.

Jason.

Jason.

Oh, I thought.

Yes, Jason.

No, just yeah.

Oh, just one.

Yeah.

I'll call them up.

All right.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, good afternoon, uh, Madam Chair.

Also um Johnson and committee members or um Alderman Savage.

I'd like to give you an update on the a few transportation um things going on in our department, and also I'll have coming up with us um our representatives from the two parking contractors.

Uh Jason Parola is the market president for premium parking, which deals mainly with downtown.

Um district uh ward one districts one and two, and uh senior operations manager, Mr.

John Kemp, um of Metropolis uh had has the rest of the city.

So what I'd like to talk about first, um some good news.

Um our magenta shuttle, the free magenta shuttle that uh comes around downtown that operates daily.

Um we're gonna do a little bit of a reroute on that starting on or about March 2nd.

So if you can kind of picture the route as it's coming down Duke of Gloucester, making the left onto St.

Mary Street, uh left onto compromise.

Instead of making that left going up Main, it's gonna continue down um Randall, make a right onto Doc, a left onto Craig, a left onto St.

Um uh Prince George Street, back left onto Randall to back up.

Um, what this will do is help um the businesses of the downtown City Dock area.

There's about a dozen or so to see that they are open.

There will be one stop on the corner of uh Dock Street and Craig Street.

Um this bus runs every day.

Um if you need the actual schedule, I can kind of detail it here Monday through Thursday, six o'clock in the morning until 11 o'clock at night, Friday, six o'clock in the morning until midnight, Saturday, eight o'clock in the morning till midnight, and Sunday, eight until eight um p.m.

And we're really hoping that that will really um help those businesses, even if someone doesn't get off the first time, but it connects all of our garages, and they can see that hey, latitude 38, it is open, and the other businesses like uh Bo and Biddy's and uh Pit Pitts uh sandwich shop and all.

So I think that's a win-win for all of us.

Um Mr.

Jason Parola will give a little snippet of some things that we're working on for the downtown uh business or residents of um Annapolis, but it's on some work for downtown that we'll be um sharing a little bit of information with you.

Um Alderman Savage, I think you know, coming back to you with the question that we started last month um with the AVL.

We still we were hoping to have heard back by now.

We have not heard back from St.

Mary's County.

So the department is still currently waiting for St.

Mary's County Transit to decide whether they'll utilize the remaining quantities or release them for our use, and we need 19.

Remember this started with Hartford County, then you know St.

Mary's got some.

So if we don't hear back from from the end of the month, uh we'll just start moving on on what we need to do.

So what that means is preparing a separate RFP for MDOT MTA's review and concurrence.

Um this will serve as a contingency plan in the event we don't uh get what we need.

Um there's a lot of economies of scale if that worked out with Pasio, as you know, with the county.

Uh there's no reason why we can't have our own standalone with PASIO, but it would make um the whole procedure or process of you know not having to go through RFP a lot smoother.

Um but we will continue working to that effort um the remaining of this fiscal year, and hopefully we can get that all squared away for you know a lot of July um one startups.

Before I invite our parking contractors up to discuss what they have, are there any questions that you might have for me?

Alderman Savage.

Thank you, madam chair.

Uh yeah, good to see you again.

All right, so great to hear on the circulator.

I think that's a great idea to extend it over there to help out those businesses.

Also, thanks for the update on the AVL.

Um what was it?

You did you say it was Carroll County?

Um it's actually Hartford County where it started, but the it's um St.

Mary's County.

Uh see if they're gonna utilize the rest.

And as we talked about how our RPs go with like a bus purchase X amount can be used, and if they have some extras, you can just piggyback on that uh actual contract.

So the request was made through Howard Harwick Hartford County, not Howard, Hartford County, um, who directed us to St.

Mary's County, and we really thought we'd heard by now.

Okay.

Um so I think I've asked you, I've talked about this with you before, but um just to clarify.

Um, do you have a dedicated marketing person or team in your in your department?

We do not, and I think that that was um discussion at the last transportation board meeting where they were um sending to you recommendations for that.

I've been with the city for 10 years.

Um no one's we have not had that position since I've been here.

I'm hearing around the 2010, 2012, somewhere around there is when we lost it a couple administrations ago.

Yeah, yeah, because I just thinking back to some of uh the conferences we've been to together, and uh especially the bigger systems um seem to have quite a bit of marketing to help drive ridership, and it uh it just seems like it'd be a good idea for us to think about with if we want to as a committee we we're always welcome to make recommendations for the budget, so maybe keep that in mind as we move forward.

I mean, it we don't have to get into too many details at this stage, but I think when the chair um Miss uh Tyra, when she comes, I think she might have uh the talking points or the drafted letter of recommendation to present to the full council.

And I'm trying to find my notes here.

Um other transportation questions.

So let's see.

So we got you know, so in last year's budget, um you got some one-time use money set aside to look at the uh potential for getting some kind of study assessment to see if we could do a circulator and connecting uh downtown through Eastport to you know Forest Drive and um Edgewood Road.

Um I'm trying to remember, I'm trying to look up off the top of your head where that is in the process as far as um Yeah.

Thank you for bringing that up because I was gonna talk to you offline as we had that discussion last Thursday at our first town hall meeting in Ward 7.

Yeah, um, you had a series of questions that um spread itself throughout some of the agencies.

We had two specific, the one that you're speaking of now, and we wrote back the responses um asking for a little bit of clarity.

Um if you haven't gotten those, I can have those sent directly to you.

But our um acting city manager was gathering those 25 or so questions that you have and sending it all together as one packet.

So if you haven't received it, I can make sure you get that.

Um if not this evening, definitely tomorrow.

I do have some of those.

Um trying to find them now.

But I yeah, my point is like I would I would love to sit down whenever the time is ready with uh you or whoever uh with the department just to talk about what um the intent was with the budget amendment uh and with the with the study as the primary sponsor happy to provide any kind of details you might need.

That would be very helpful, and as you brought it home with last week, just sharing what's going on with Cars Beach and all and seeing what your thoughts were, and then working with the county to do other things that have come on our radar uh with other transportation things and what our TDP is outlined.

Um, we'd love to have that conversation with you.

Great.

And could we get um if if the chair is uh interested too?

I would love to see like uh I suppose maybe another presentation on the um the what do you you call it?

The Jitney, the electric uh cart in um Eastport.

Um just to get a better understanding of myself and I think maybe um some of the new the committee members may benefit too, but just to get my head around um you know where that Jitney is operating, when it's operating, because I think last time we spoke it was like a seasonal transportation system and um running only partial hours.

I suppose maybe another presentation on the um the what do you you call it the the Jitney the electric uh cart in um Eastport Um just to get a better understanding of myself and I think maybe um some of the new the committee members may benefit too but just to get my head around um you know where that Jitney is operating when it's operating because I think last time we spoke it was like a seasonal transportation system and um running only partial hours um but I I'm curious just to see again I just want to visualize in my head uh but also learn how you think it's been operating if it's something that you think we should continue with or um seek funding to expand yeah so those are the kind of things I'd like to get into at some point you brought that up because that too was a pilot and the the the Calvert West School Street uh state circle has been widely uh successful of connecting that garage or the three I should say Calvert Street, Whitmore, and Gotts Court.

Um the Eastport one less um of success and it might be time to really look back and get some ideas where we can try it next.

Um seasonal because there's no HVAC in there, and as far as the battery life, um some may like we couldn't run it now, we wouldn't have been running for quite a while, but um the battery life um you know, bringing it from our location, you may get about six and a half hours kind of thing.

And if we plug something in for you know conditioning the air, you just start draining the battery even more.

So we tried some standalone uh stuff that was marginal uh at best.

And I know we sometimes think, well, I'm only gonna be in there five or ten minutes, but the driver's in there for seven hours.

So you know, just like a bus.

So you gotta make sure that you know um the temperatures, um ambient temperatures conducive to somebody being in there.

But I'd like to hear some other thoughts on what we can do with the eastports.

Maybe it's time to look at another area.

So didn't have you used those electric anywhere else?

No, just to support.

Uh not other than you know, uh parade or something else moving around, but not on a route to try somewhere else.

Um remembering it's a low speed street legal vehicle, so you do want to keep it off some areas like Forest Drive, um, you know, even Bay Ridge Road, Bay Ridge Avenue, um, you know, good downtown kind of thing.

Uh so we really need to keep an eye on what you know, it's fiberglass.

Uh we've been bumped into twice, so you know what a bump will do on fiberglass alone.

Yeah, we had no injuries, but just property damage.

Yeah.

And the other question which you may recall that came up, I think it came up at the town hall, uh, I did with the mayor, but asking about the uh people want a bus service to the high school.

And I know that doesn't fall shouldn't fall solely on our shoulders, but I just wanted to see if there's any what your thoughts were on that, any update, any potential for partnering with the county on the yeah, maybe we can I can talk to my counterpart Sam Steed in the county.

I think he's already reached out to Anna Rondo um public schools.

Um they will not allow a bus on their property.

You'll just intermingle with all kinds of stuff.

I did not know he's reached out to that.

That is where he turns around, which is called the heritage turnaround on Reva Road, that's about as close as you're gonna get, unless I'm not sure about the swim swim club, but I would like to you know revisit it.

One of the members, the newest member um appointed on the board, Phoenix has uh brought some um a white paper together uh to take a look at.

And Sam and I are more than willing and able to meet with them, maybe at their next call, next call, but it'll be good to really bring those parties together because we all have a shared interest in this, not just the county uh city, but you know, the the um school system.

Um collaborative efforts, we love to do it, you know, with money.

Well, we we can get you know, we're they're going route now because that's what we did.

That was the yellow route that went from the high school, excuse me, from the mall.

There might be another way to do something like that.

But one of the things with the MTA charter, even though, excuse me, uh federal FTA charter, even MTA bus system in Baltimore, which is the 13th largest in the country, they can't uh have a service just for a group of people, meaning senior citizens, students, not for higher, you know, for free or for charge, it has to be for others.

So we could still do that by making stops along the way.

It can't be to go from here directly to the school.

We we have to take the whole community um involved in it.

But there's ways to do that.

It'd be selfish.

I'll be selfish to say my day job office buildings right there.

It is, yeah.

You get lots of county employees who could potentially uh use the service too.

There's still a bus stop.

Yeah, it is.

Um that still goes there.

That was our old yellow route that goes for the mall to go to the heritage turnaround.

That still runs when we did, I think it was Monday through Saturday.

I'm not sure.

I have to check the county's website on um, it's probably the same times.

We ran it um every every on the hour.

Um and then 2018, the this county took over that one in the gold route, which was our longest going to and run to community college to edge water um the the Kmart.

Yeah.

I know the some of the county buses do come into the heritage complex to do turnaround.

Yes.

So plenty of room there.

There's a lot there.

Yeah, they're they're um move on or move.

Um I've got their slogan, the green ones.

And now you see who did you say is reached out to uh Phoenix.

I'll send you the information he shared earlier this week or over the weekend, asking for um a meeting.

And is did you say Phineas put together a white paper too?

Um I thought he did.

Let me go back and look and see exactly what he sent.

Um, but you want to you know further develop his thoughts.

Yeah, well, now's certainly the time to approach the county on some kind of because again, especially I think it would strengthen our argument to say, look, yes, that the school district is county, right?

Yes, school, but uh but the county employees.

I mean, I don't know how many hundred are there in those buildings.

There's the school board right next to it as well.

Um all that development and parole, like uh so it seems like we'd have a pretty good argument for the county to include this in there.

Maybe Director Sneed is already thinking about it.

He he might be with all the economic development on Riva Road.

Um, you know, it's just growing.

It just makes a lot of sense.

The you know, it's connecting with you know jobs.

Yeah, uh, with all the stuff that's there for our our city residents.

So it only makes sense, you're right.

All right, so we'll uh I guess put that on the list for updates.

Um thank you.

And I think that's all you know, right into the next meeting.

When do you think we should check in with you for an update?

Um which one?

Uh the um e-cards or the school school bus.

Um let me see what I can do between now and then.

I can get back to um Caitlin and just you guys to see what we have for the next meeting, which is uh March what?

If not March, clearly April.

No, this is March 11th.

Um March 11th.

March 11th.

Yes.

Yep, okay.

Um let me see what we can do.

If not that clearly the 12th, that'll you know, uh well, you know, April.

Uh is it the 8th.

But let's shoot for March.

Yeah, I'm gonna add that on my own list.

Because I mean, I I know you probably can't get in too many details.

Not asking for details at this point, but I would love to.

I'm looking forward to hearing uh what you're proposing in the budget.

Um, but that's just something I think the committee might need want to think about is if we need to find a way to fund a bus for the kids.

Um but the county would also need to be prepared to budget for it.

Right.

All right.

Um yeah, that's all I have.

Mr.

Kemp, Ms.

Roller, come on up.

No, not right now.

As always.

I don't know.

Green, we may begin.

Gentlemen, introduce yourselves for the record.

Well, he's getting ready there.

Um my name's John Kemp.

I'm with uh Metropolis or SP Plus.

Hi, Jason Prolow.

Thanks for having us.

Um, market president for premium park.

Do either of you have a present anything to present on in particular?

Or I do have a deck um waiting on the tombstone flip here.

Um but thanks for having us back.

I think it's been since September since we last sat together.

So happy to be here.

Oh, it's not plugged in.

I didn't realize that you used a different computer there.

My apologies.

I hope she's not running across the street.

Save me already.

Okay.

Um so just some uh largely operational updates, uh just some FYIs and things that have happened over the past uh few months.

Uh I haven't gone all the way back to September.

I really focused on mostly December uh and January so far.

So snow response and coordination.

Uh obviously storm fern was uh quite the interesting one and a bit overbearing on the the region.

Uh we really focused heavily on entrances and exits at first, followed by pedestrian paths with the roof uh prioritized last.

Uh all of those have been cleared.

Um the roof was done uh if I skip down one bullet point further to uh the weekend of the 7th, uh largely one day, um ending arguably a bit late in the evening, um, which we're working with the vendor on.

Uh there were some challenges, uh, even pre-treated surfaces with the temperatures for such a sustained period being so low, certainly bonded to uh the surfaces, um, and that took some work through and some constant uh salt and revisiting to get that knocked back.

Uh and then last we do have um some meetings scheduled between a few different parties to kind of walk through uh some service area scope uh challenges as things have changed over time, which Marcus uh and I are, I believe, hoping to schedule next week, and we can follow up further if there's changes there to anything.

Uh elevator and EV charger status, all elevator or all EV chargers are operational, minus one.

That one has been out for a significant period of time.

We've talked about it in the past.

The part is still on order.

Uh, our apologies for that.

It is outside of our hands.

We are actively managing this, uh, and we will hopefully provide positive updates soon.

We've had no substantial or repeated elevator issues whatsoever uh over several months.

I think we're hitting six or seven months at this point of that being the case.

We do have calls here and there, uh, but nothing significant.

And then there is a at a high level there and outside of our purview, there is a review of the EV chargers that are currently there being done uh that could include up to a change in what types of chargers are in the Hillman garage uh and potentially even how many.

I can't speak for others on that, uh, but just an FYI that uh we are aware and those that we report to are aware that we have some challenges with those that are significant and repeated.

Uh, and so that's being looked at.

Uh, there's about 450 gigawatts of managed solar and EV charging under uh what is now Boyd Waterson.

Um, and so they want to look at this at the highest level uh for all of their assets that they manage before they make decisions, and that's what's happening now.

Uh I will without going into specifics, say that I am aware that they have found some people they've been enjoying working with and uh that have put forth things that they're excited about, how well that scales and what kind of timeline that would look like, I think is what they're talking about now.

Um that's what I have there.

Uh MVA DMV integration and mobile LPR.

Uh we started working on this in October.

Uh a lot of emails and phone calls, most of it uh unresponsive, just sort of uh fall down into a black hole.

Uh we were able to escalate through the chief administrator of the MBA through the state of Maryland and get progress.

Uh we are essentially ready to make this happen at this point.

There are some more um sort of red tape to navigate.

Uh I'm actually going to chat with Vinod, who's in the back here later about some updates there uh that he might have as well that'll help us push that forward.

As soon as that's done, the mobile LPR will be uh in place.

Uh there will be a timeline, of course, to get that done.

Uh, but it is already built and integrated into the platform, so it's just a matter of uh procuring and installing the tech.

Um not much else there.

Programs and promotions.

This is just a light one.

The holiday season was wonderful.

Um second year in a row, it went really well.

No systemic or or patterned issues that we saw whatsoever.

Uh any negative experiences that we heard about or one-offs, typically they were handled uh right away, and and the parker left happy.

Uh, we do have, and I can't talk too much about this, but a new special parking pilot program uh that we may even hear about as soon as tomorrow, uh, as of an email I just got five minutes ago.

Uh we'll be fully implemented on the platform.

Name is even pending.

I just uh submitted a few ideas to get the naming part uh sort of some momentum behind it.

Um but excited for it and to see what comes of it, what kind of data we can collect once it's in place.

Uh and I'll just end with uh December and January occupancy.

Really happy with what we see.

Midday weekday still continues to be where we're really seeing the the majority of demand and revenue enter into the garage.

Surprisingly high weekend um volumes and occupancy levels throughout the month of December.

A lot of that really ties to the free parking for the holiday shopping program, if you will.

Uh and then in January.

Monday through Friday really looked the same, and we were happy to see that there's a little bit of a drop-off on the occupancy levels.

Uh and I think we can attribute a big part of that to the end of the month with storm winter storm fern.

Um and and it certainly see the drop on Saturday, Sunday, where we tend to have our tourism um retail and uh dining folks join us.

That's all I have, other than the questions.

May I, Madam Chair?

Go ahead, Alderman Savage.

It's interesting that Thursday at 6 to 9 is the peak out of the week.

I kind of just assumed it would be Friday or Saturday.

Yeah, uh it's always higher than normal.

I think you have that that transition of you have the the downtown employees that are still around and maybe out for drinks or dinner on a Friday and Thursday.

Uh both of those really happen.

And then uh right now we're in session.

So I think that has a multiplier to it while we're in the session as well.

Although the December, that was before then when you get to January.

Yeah, Thursday is no longer the peak.

For some reason, Thursday was the peak in December.

Maybe it's because of that midnight madness on Thursday.

It is also, I was gonna say we also have midnight madness on Thursdays in December, um, on top of the two-hour free holiday parking program.

I mean, that's it looks like that's really it's interesting.

You can really see that uptick.

Yeah, because the holiday and when you walk around on the street, you could you there's a lot of people out.

You can see people are coming to town to participate.

But overall, um still plenty of capacity in there.

Um so I was gonna ask.

Um, oh so did you perchance get copied on there was uh email from transportation board?

I saw it today.

It came in, I believe, late evening yesterday.

Yeah, I just saw it today.

I haven't you know I'll have to follow up with you.

Uh it all seemed very pragmatic and um reasonable.

Uh you know, I don't know how they were just trying to get an understanding of some of the how the reserved parking works, if it's static or if it's adjusted.

Kind of the gist of it.

You know, I had a talk with Boyd Watterson as they work through their EV and solar project, and and part of you know my feedback and consult to them was there is no EV solution that provides a sort of a full stack of managing EV.

Um, you know, for a long time it was subsidized, and so we had it installed and and they left.

And even getting, as we've talked about relentlessly over the last 18 months, repairs in parts it has been a challenge.

Uh so that's a big focus of what they're kind of looking at as they look at this on their end.

Um I don't want to not look at what the board sent and and consider it and see what we could do in the meantime or forever, depending on what uh they decide.

But we'll go through it and follow up and happy to even communicate back and forth on that before the next meeting.

All right, thank you.

And um, do you also have any of the utilization rates as far as the two-hour code or even the how many people use uh because I think Sunday we have it's free, I think, right?

For intended for church goers.

Yeah, I don't I can send it to you tomorrow.

Um I I really focused on sort of bringing you up to speed on what's happened since September, especially with a new group uh in your seats.

Um and so this can be tailored back into whatever we pick from the fresh start.

Uh and I can share that tomorrow.

It's already pulled, it's just not included here.

Okay, thank you.

That's all I have, Madam Chairman.

Thank you, Alderman Savage.

And I you have any more concerns.

Do you want to tell us any more uh information?

No.

Uh if you think of anything between now and the next meeting, just send it to Marcus or I or both, and I'll follow up with you.

Uh coming out today.

All right.

Yep.

Yeah, John Kemp, uh Metropolis.

Thanks for having me.

I don't have any slides today.

I'll make sure I bring uh uh uh Alderman Savage in in the last um session was uh had seen a lot of the similar statistics and we'll update those uh for the Gots Court Night and Garage, Park Place Garage uh data.

One one very important update which uh was advocated heavily for last year by Alderman Savage, so thank you.

One one very important update which uh was advocated heavily for last year by Alderman Savage, so thank you was the transition from uh the need for residents who benefit from two hours of free parking at any uh Annapolis facility from uh requiring a physical credential to process that at uh validation that's now been automated and it is tied to their license plates.

It's in it's live, and we've folded residents into that.

We'll be working with uh with Mitchell to uh send out some communication.

Um, I don't know that it would be get to more, you know, it'll certainly be a uh a welcomed thing, I'm sure you know we know that for sure.

But as far as attracting new residents, I mean any resident who's made aware it'll be a good it'll be a good uh refresher to uh Annapolitans who perhaps moved here since uh the last few times any any sort of communication on free residential parking has been made.

But uh now that folks don't have to do anything.

So they'll just register with us as they always have, and they'll get the benefit just by driving in and driving out.

So that's a that's a really exciting uh really exciting development.

Yeah, you're the only city in America who's who's got that sort of a program.

That's great.

Wow.

That's great, thank you.

Um and is that something that now that premium is gonna be more connected with MVA?

Is that something that you could incorporate into your technology?

Yes, I won't speak to timelines and product.

Uh I think Adam or CTO might yeah be upset with me.

But yeah, um you know behind the scenes, I think that uh tolling, if you will, is coming.

Um it's been in the platform for years.

Uh and I won't go into why it's not something public facing.

Um but as that happens, yeah.

Okay, thank you.

Um I'm trying to think I I know I had some other questions, but thank you.

Uh sure.

Yeah, as I said, I'll bring some some more statistical uh info to dive into in our next the next time we gather.

I will just say anecdotally, uh, you know, occupy it's session, so at least up at the garages, uh Gots Court, of course, is a bit closer to uh the state house.

It's absolutely packed every day right now.

That's similar to every year I've been here.

Um I will just say anecdotally during midnight Mattis, to me, this was clearly I was I was here uh for well into the evening on the both the first two and uh the the occupancy was much higher this year compared to last year.

You know, I think maybe the I don't know if the weather was a little more cooperative, but um not sure.

But it was uh certainly great to see.

Yeah, it's good.

Very good.

Um yeah, you know, one of the reasons why I'm asking for the same thing to you is some of the data on presumably you'll still be able to track how many residents utilize the two-hour because what I'm getting at is that at some point I'd like to be able to put a dollar value on that.

Sure.

And we can do that too we'll include that in our data.

And then have a larger conversation with uh director Moore's group um and others about how to and the council really, as far as are there different pricing from a transportation planning perspective.

Are there other pricing mechanisms, other things we should do to encourage people to uh use their the bus system uh a bit more for some purposes?

Um because I know there is a cost to us having the two-hour program.

Sure.

Um again, just thinking out loud.

I'm kind of thinking of my own head is like do we want to tweak that seasonally or keep it standard all year?

I get during the holidays during low periods, it may make sense to have that in place, but right now it's just static, right?

Two hour.

Um you know, you've got geography matters perhaps in this case, and you've got a terminus of the circulator on the western side of town.

Right.

And uh perhaps there's uh a carrot to be placed out there for folks to really make the choice, you know, or at least think about let me make the choice to go here and I'll circulate or down or walk.

Um we've seen that work and we've seen that work when we've put together so typically it with you in the past here and commonly around other communities, um less communities and more on more commercial properties who are seizing on the opportunity for when an attractive event is occurring in a particular place.

So conversely here, one of the ways we've helped uh mitigate traffic downtown.

I wish even more so, but but certainly there's been some mitigation of congestion downtown is by turning that on its head and making um attractive pricing, you know, too good to pass up pricing further to the west, keeping vehicles out from downtown and filling up the circulator or walking up certainly when when there's good.

Do you have signage up on like West Street as somebody's driving in they can actually see prices kind of going up as they go not prices, but there was in the case of uh of midnight madness on the uh board.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But there are certainly a few other ways to go about making sure that that's communicated uh you know as much as possible.

Certainly if we're to thinking outside of uh holidays, thinking outside of midnight madness where that's really uh citywide, you know, all everyone's participating in that sort of a thing.

Where you've got other events that might attract folks, um it the communication coming directly from those event organizers is really powerful.

And so where the where the opportunity is to um market that um there's uh there's certainly channels the event organizers have the greatest power in those cases, I think.

Yeah.

Thanks.

Thank you.

You were adding adding my adding to my degree.

Mark if there is a halo there.

I mean he's a nice guy, but um I I uh Alderman Savage, I do think there's some fun conversations we can have about those, maybe closed door though, uh with that idea.

Yeah.

Yeah, and just talking, uh thinking out loud here.

Yeah.

That's where I'm going long term though, is all right.

That's uh I think that's all I have, Madam Chair.

I just kidding.

I think that's all we have for today.

Unless, like you said, uh there's any other questions or circle back.

Um, but I'll send the information as requested um to you guys uh by tomorrow morning before noon.

Thank you for having us.

Well, thank you for coming up.

Thank you.

And I'll we'll see you next time.

Um Director Moore.

I don't know if you have content information for the transportation board chair.

I'm sorry, say you have in touch with the transportation board chair.

Oh, I have not.

Um what we got what I got from her earlier that uh around now, 440 to 450.

So it's I don't have a number for so we want to hang for five minutes or just give it till five o'clock.

Um five of them now.

I'm sure I can think of some other questions now.

But uh no, I don't think we need to I we can always I'll hang out for a little few minutes and have a chat with her.

Let's just wait five more minutes.

Okay, let me see if I can uh see more.

See, we can just we can just other approach.

That might be her.

Yeah, yeah.

Just happy if there's anything else.

Um that concludes the meeting.

I'll make a motion to adjourn.

And I'll second it.

And thank you all again.

Be safe until we meet again.