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Road and Breed Bridge Meeting – July 19, 2024

County CommissionFriday, July 19, 2024
BodyBaldwin County, Alabama
SessionCounty Commission
DateFriday, July 19, 2024
StatusFILED
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Transcript — Verbatim
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Meeting to order today on uh the October 27th, 2023 Road and Breed Bridge meeting.

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Uh I've got uh Commissioner Underwood to lead us in the invocation, followed by the pledge by Commissioner Gruber.

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Good morning.

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If you would please bow your heads with me, thank you.

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Dear Heavenly Father, we thank you for this day, Lord.

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We just thank you for all the blessings that we have here in Ballon County.

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And Lord, we just ask you to be with us as we conduct this meeting for Bowen County.

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And Lord, I just ask that you would help our country right now, Lord.

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You know, together we're better.

0:36

And Lord, help us to more be unified.

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And Lord, we just pray for this country and ask your blessings upon us.

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In Jesus' name we pray.

0:46

Amen.

0:46

Amen.

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Please join me in a pledge.

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Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

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And to the Republic for which it stands.

0:58

One nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

1:03

Thank you.

1:09

All right, just uh welcome everybody to the road and breads meeting today.

1:13

We've got a uh pretty big uh agenda today.

1:17

I think we're gonna run through it fairly smooth, and um I'm gonna lead off by uh and turning this over to um Mark and uh let you go from here.

1:31

Um excuse me.

1:33

Golly, I haven't done this in so long.

1:34

Uh we need a motion to adopt the um October 27, 23 meetings.

1:39

So I'll make I'll second it.

1:41

Got a motion by Commissioner Gruber, second by Commissioner Underwood.

1:45

Uh any further discussion?

1:47

All those in favor signify saying aye.

1:49

Aye.

1:50

Motion passes.

1:51

Uh appreciate you.

1:53

Lead me back into the chairman role, Mr.

1:55

Gruber.

1:55

It's been a while.

1:56

So all right, Mark.

2:02

Thank you, Chairman.

2:03

I do not believe we have any old business to discuss today.

2:06

Uh so what we're going to do is to move on to new business.

2:09

And uh the first stop is we're going to have a discussion item from the city of Spanish Fort.

2:14

Mayor McMullen would like to present a request to the commission.

2:18

Okay.

2:18

Mayor McMillan.

2:23

You know, I'm gonna let you handle that.

2:25

I'll I'll screw it up for sure.

2:27

Thank you, first of all, for allowing us to come talk to you about a project that I think can be mutually beneficial to both parties.

2:34

Recognizing the outlay where the where the the proposed connection could be will alleviate a lot of issues that are being uh being a problem for the county and for the city.

2:47

So this little section of the road what we're talking about here is connecting O 31 into Eastern Shore Boulevard.

2:54

A lot of it is in the city, so a lot of it's in the county, but it affects a lot of county subdivisions, and of course, the traffic on O31, and of course, obviously the traffic on 31.

3:06

This will help alleviate issues there.

3:08

So, what we'd like to see is use the county's expertise in the engineering and perhaps building and make this a joint project between the two of us to make things smoother for everybody in that area.

3:20

Proposing the road to cut off of 031, and I see a few options here.

3:25

Uh here again, I'm gonna leave that up to the engineers to be the best thing to do in cost factors, but to take that off O31 and connect it into the Eastern Shore Center, Eastern Shore Boulevard, which would take traffic off of the Rockwell area at 31, of course, the industrial park that at Everwood.

3:46

Uh everything on 31, as you know, is still two-lane road, and it's it's a nightmare, although supposedly by the end of the month they'd have the third lane in place, but hadn't seen it yet, but it's coming.

3:59

So it's gonna be mutually beneficial to both both of us to move things along.

4:04

We're bringing into the Eastern Shore Center.

4:06

That'll give them options with traffic lights to bring them out to 181 in two different areas, and of course, back to 31 right there, the traffic light at Rockwell.

4:14

So the ease of congestion of the Whispering Woods neighborhood that's all in the county, and of course the Lee Road area that's all in the county and that area back there.

4:24

So uh if we can pull people off of O31, put them on O31 and bring them back to the back side of the Eastern Shore Center, it would help all of us.

4:33

So that's what we're looking at.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Engineering And Infrastructure█████████████████████████████████████████████58%
Zoning███████9%
Parks and Recreation██████8%
Transportation Safety█████6%
Procedural████5%
Technology and Innovation███4%
Public Safety███4%
Water And Wastewater Management██3%
Public Engagement██2%
Summary of Proceedings

Road and Breed Bridge Meeting – July 19, 2024

The Baldwin County Road and Breed Bridge meeting was called to order at 2:30 PM on July 19, 2024. Commissioners Underwood and Gruber led the invocation and pledge. The meeting included a discussion item from the City of Spanish Fort, a presentation on proposed amendments to subdivision regulations, an access management plan overview, and a comprehensive project update from the county engineer. No public comments were made.

Consent Calendar

  • The minutes from the October 27, 2023 meeting were adopted by a motion from Commissioner Gruber, seconded by Commissioner Underwood, with all in favor.

Discussion Items

  • City of Spanish Fort Connector Project: Mayor McMullen presented a request to partner with the county on a road connecting O31 to Eastern Shore Boulevard to alleviate traffic congestion for county subdivisions and the Eastern Shore Center. The county engineer noted that the department is heavily burdened with ARPA projects and other obligations, making it difficult to allocate in-house design resources immediately. Commissioners expressed support for the project in principle but stated they could not commit funding or staff at this time. They agreed to have staff assist with determining the best alignment and cost estimates once their schedule permits, likely in six to nine months. Mayor McMullen indicated that a preliminary road profile would enable conversations with property owners about potential right-of-way donations or acquisitions.
  • Subdivision Regulations Amendments (Preliminary Discussion): Jay Dixon presented five proposed goals for updating subdivision regulations: streamline application/review processes, add open space and landscape requirements (e.g., 10% minimum open space, half usable; 10-foot landscape buffer along county roads; street trees every 100 feet), modernize stormwater management using low-impact development (LID) techniques, improve traffic management and access circulation (e.g., requiring more than one access for subdivisions over 50 lots), and general text cleanup. The presentation noted that current stormwater regulations concentrate runoff, and proposed bioretention ponds and swales to mimic natural hydrology. Utility capacity verification would be strengthened by requiring written reports documenting both willingness and ability to serve. Commissioners asked about enforcement of open space maintenance, utility capacity tracking, and the potential use of AI for permitting. No action was taken; the discussion was for feedback purposes.
  • Access Management Plan (Preliminary Discussion): Mark presented a proposed access management plan focusing on driveway spacing, shared driveways, and right-of-way management on county roads. Key proposals include establishing minimum driveway spacing of 240 feet on arterial/collector roads and 120 feet on local roads, creating a multi-lot driveway permit requiring paved driveway connections, and implementing spacing requirements for corner lots (150 feet residential, 250 feet commercial). Existing subdivided lots would be grandfathered in, but new subdivisions would need to meet the standards. Commissioners raised questions about shared driveways (safety, emergency access, and potential conflicts) and noted that the plan would not supersede existing lot size regulations. The goal is to improve safety and reduce maintenance costs. No action was taken.
  • Department Update: Mark provided an update on ongoing projects: 11 ARPA projects (2 completed, 5 under construction, 4 going out for bid within 60 days); three capacity projects (County Road 64 widening – 25 of 36 tracts acquired, plans 85% complete; County Road 65 corridor – 25 of 29 tracts acquired; County Road 20 extension – 10 of 15 tracts acquired); Lilian Boat Launch (design complete, final reviews); pedestrian bridge connecting Bicentennial Park and Live Oak Park (final review before bid); County Road 6 boat launch under construction; Lillian Park amenities under design; Kenny Drive Park shoreline protection assistance; two regional stormwater projects (Magnolia River – 5 of 9 parcels acquired or under contract; Fish River watershed – Thompson Engineering selected for design). Additionally, 17 drainage projects ongoing, 19.5 miles of resurfacing out for bid, safety projects completed, Novellas roadway and rail spur contracts underway with a shortfall request to ALDOT. The meeting also mentioned progress on a Cardwell Lane drainage project (down to two property acquisitions, one in condemnation). Commissioners requested a year-end presentation to the public highlighting these accomplishments.

Key Outcomes

  • Spanish Fort Connector: No formal vote; county will revisit design assistance in six to nine months after current workload eases.
  • Subdivision Regulations & Access Management: No action taken; presentations were for discussion and public feedback. Staff will continue drafting proposed texts based on commissioner input.
  • Project Updates: Noted for information; Commissioner requested a formal presentation at a future regular commission meeting with visuals.
  • Meeting Adjourned: Motion by Commissioner Underwood, seconded by Commissioner Gruber.

Meeting Transcript

Meeting to order today on uh the October 27th, 2023 Road and Breed Bridge meeting. Uh I've got uh Commissioner Underwood to lead us in the invocation, followed by the pledge by Commissioner Gruber. Good morning. If you would please bow your heads with me, thank you. Dear Heavenly Father, we thank you for this day, Lord. We just thank you for all the blessings that we have here in Ballon County. And Lord, we just ask you to be with us as we conduct this meeting for Bowen County. And Lord, I just ask that you would help our country right now, Lord. You know, together we're better. And Lord, help us to more be unified. And Lord, we just pray for this country and ask your blessings upon us. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. Please join me in a pledge. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And to the Republic for which it stands. One nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. All right, just uh welcome everybody to the road and breads meeting today. We've got a uh pretty big uh agenda today. I think we're gonna run through it fairly smooth, and um I'm gonna lead off by uh and turning this over to um Mark and uh let you go from here. Um excuse me. Golly, I haven't done this in so long. Uh we need a motion to adopt the um October 27, 23 meetings. So I'll make I'll second it. Got a motion by Commissioner Gruber, second by Commissioner Underwood. Uh any further discussion? All those in favor signify saying aye. Aye. Motion passes. Uh appreciate you. Lead me back into the chairman role, Mr. Gruber. It's been a while. So all right, Mark. Thank you, Chairman. I do not believe we have any old business to discuss today. Uh so what we're going to do is to move on to new business. And uh the first stop is we're going to have a discussion item from the city of Spanish Fort. Mayor McMullen would like to present a request to the commission. Okay. Mayor McMillan. You know, I'm gonna let you handle that. I'll I'll screw it up for sure. Thank you, first of all, for allowing us to come talk to you about a project that I think can be mutually beneficial to both parties. Recognizing the outlay where the where the the proposed connection could be will alleviate a lot of issues that are being uh being a problem for the county and for the city. So this little section of the road what we're talking about here is connecting O 31 into Eastern Shore Boulevard. A lot of it is in the city, so a lot of it's in the county, but it affects a lot of county subdivisions, and of course, the traffic on O31, and of course, obviously the traffic on 31. This will help alleviate issues there.

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