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Baldwin County Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting - September 9, 2024

County Commission — Monday, September 9, 2024

BodyBaldwin County, Alabama

SessionCounty Commission

DateMonday, September 9, 2024

StatusFILED

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0:04

Good evening.

0:06

I want to call to order our September 5th Balma County Planning and Zoning Commission meeting.

0:12

At this time, you'll stand with me.

0:14

We'll have a prayer and a pledge of allegiance.

0:22

Father, we're thankful to you for this day.

0:24

We're thankful to you for this county that we live in.

0:27

It's a great place to live.

0:28

We're thankful for the many that make it that way for our elected officials who work to make it that way for all of the staff that's here tonight that uh has made this meeting possible with their hard work.

0:41

Our first responders, uh, so many father, we're just thankful for we do live in a great place.

0:47

Thank you, Father, for the opportunity we have to conduct this business tonight.

0:50

Uh bless us with wisdom uh that we conduct ourselves in a way that we should, and we pray all this in the name of Jesus.

0:57

Amen.

0:59

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

1:07

One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

1:17

All right, this time I'll call the roll.

1:20

Brandon Byas, Robert Davis, Jason Padgett, Michael Mullock, Greg Seibert here, Jamie Stratinger, Glenn Seal, Diane Burnett here, Michael Fletcher, here, George Waters, here, and Reed Key.

1:41

Here, and we have a quorum.

1:46

Barely, but we have enough.

1:49

That's good.

1:50

So uh you've each received a copy of the minutes of the last work session and regular meeting on October the on excuse me on August the first.

2:00

Umless anybody has any corrections to that, I'll entertain a motion that they be both of those be approved.

2:08

So moved.

2:09

Mr.

2:09

Cyrus May in motion those be approved to have a second.

2:12

Second.

2:15

The strategy second the motion.

2:17

All in favor say aye.

2:18

Aye.

2:19

Any opposed.

2:21

Minutes are approved.

2:23

Mr.

2:24

Dixon, you would like to have your time, please.

2:29

Sir, sir.

2:33

Good afternoon, Chairman and Commissioners.

2:35

Uh, we'll quickly go through our uh public hearing guidelines.

2:39

We have several public hearings on the agenda for you all tonight.

2:42

Uh so for those in the audience, uh, public comments should only be made during the public hearing portion of the meeting.

2:49

Uh, when you come up to the podium, please state your name and address into the microphone for the record.

2:55

Uh comments should be directed to the chairman of the planning commission, and he can uh uh address them or commit them to the appropriate person.

3:03

Uh comments should be focused on the application that is being presented at that time, and comments from individuals should be limited to three minutes.

3:10

Uh and if you're speaking on behalf of a group, you can extend that to five minutes.

3:17

So there's a couple of rezonings uh tonight.

3:21

Uh you'll see this in your staff reports.

3:23

Just a reminder of the criteria that the zoning ordinance says uh we have to review rezoning requests by number one, is it could put uh compatible with the development pattern?

3:36

Uh number two, is it a change in conditions from since originally zoned?

3:39

Number three, does it uh conform to the master plan?

3:43

Number four, does it conflict with public improvements?

3:47

Number five, uh, is there any adverse traffic uh affects the traffic?

3:51

And I always like to clarify on this piece that means the overall transportation network.

3:56

There's always situations where you have to have localized traffic improvements, but this is more on the rezoning stage, more about what's going on in the transportation network in that that area.

4:05

Uh number six, is it consistent with the development pattern?

4:09

Uh number seven, is a logical expansion of an adjacent zoning.

4:13

Number eight, is it the timing appropriate given development trends?

4:16

Number nine, it does there any impacts to environmental or historic uh areas.

4:21

Number 10, uh, are there any adverse impacts to health safety and wellness of the community?

4:26

Uh, then there's number 11 is a catch-all for any kind of special conditions that may be going on with that application.

4:31

Uh when we get to the subdivisions that are on the agenda, uh, just a reminder that uh the state law is very explicit of how the this body has to deal with with uh with subdivisions.

4:45

Uh so if these subdivisions during the staff review, we've determined that it does meet all of the regulations that are in place at the time uh the body is required to approve it as it meets all the regulations, so it's a little bit different than the zoning, it's a lot more of a uh technical review, a lot less subjective, like a zoning uh review is so with that be glad to answer any questions.

5:00

So it's a little bit different than the zoning, it's a lot more of a uh technical review, a lot less subjective, like a zoning uh review is so with that be glad to answer any questions.

5:11

Okay, thank you, sir.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting

Zoning████████████████████████████████████████40%

Engineering And Infrastructure█████████████████████21%

Transportation Safety█████████████████17%

Procedural██████████10%

Water And Wastewater Management█████5%

Community Engagement███3%

Public Engagement██2%

Religious Observance█1%

Pending Litigation█1%

Summary of Proceedings

Baldwin County Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting - September 9, 2024

The Baldwin County Planning and Zoning Commission met on September 9, 2024, at 10:00 AM. The meeting included approval of previous minutes, several public hearings on rezoning, site plan modifications, subdivision approvals, and variances. Commissioners also discussed proposed amendments to subdivision regulations.

Consent Calendar

Minutes from the August 1, 2024 work session and regular meeting were approved unanimously.

Public Comments & Testimony

Sherwood Grove (PER 24-39): No public speakers.
e-covery Property (PID 23-01): No public speakers in opposition.
Chadwell Property (Z24-33): No public speakers in opposition.
Winfro Property (Z24-34): No public speakers in opposition.
London's Landing (PUD 24-08 / SV 24-14): Austin Leutz of Engineering Design Group represented the applicant and answered questions about parking, trash collection, and road width. John Moore (property owner) also spoke in support. No opposition speakers.
By the Bay 2 (PUD 24-09): Chris Sleeb of Leep Engineering represented the applicant and agreed to move the dumpster to the front. No opposition speakers.
Avery Cove (SPP 24-13): Victor Salek, Brian Campbell, and Robin Campbell Cook spoke in opposition, citing concerns about water runoff and drainage impacts on adjacent farmland.
Abbey Oaks (SPP 24-14): Multiple residents spoke in opposition: Scott Anderson (traffic study inaccuracies, safety), Kristen Anderson (emergency access, trash on property), Angela White (road improvements, intersection safety), Jim Rockwitz (traffic, privacy), Harry Steele (attorney representing property owners, cited road inadequacy), and Todd Eisenberg (school zone congestion). They expressed concerns about traffic, school zone congestion, and safety on Dole Leaf Road.

Discussion Items

Sherwood Grove Extension (PER 24-39): Staff requested a one-year extension for a 166-lot subdivision. Commissioner Burnett questioned the delay caused by litigation. Staff explained the court overturned the original denial. The extension was approved.
e-covery Property (PID 23-01): Modification of an approved site plan to reduce parking from 416 spaces to 94 spaces. Staff presented that current usage is low (68% of 74 spaces during peak). Approved.
Chadwell Property (Z24-33): Rezoning of 20 acres from RA to RR for a warehouse distribution center for Panama Jack. Staff recommended approval, noting compatibility with surrounding development. Approved.
Winfro Property (Z24-34): Rezoning from B1 to B2 for an antique store. Staff recommended approval. Approved.
London's Landing (PUD 24-08 / SV 24-14): Site plan for 11-unit land condominiums on 13 acres. Applicant requested variances for road elevation, curb/gutter waiver, and road width reduction to 18 feet. Staff recommended approval with conditions. Commissioners discussed parking, trash, and fire access. The variance was approved separately. The PUD was approved with additional conditions: minimum 4 parking spaces per unit, coordination with waste pickup, and staff conditions.
By the Bay 2 (PUD 24-09): RV park on 6 acres. Staff recommended approval with conditions. Commissioner requested dumpster moved to front; applicant agreed. Approved.
Avery Cove (SPP 24-13): Subdivision of 121 lots on 40 acres. Staff recommended approval with conditions including revised traffic study. Opponents raised drainage concerns. Commissioner noted that in unzoned areas, the commission must approve if regulations are met. Approved.
Abbey Oaks (SPP 24-14): Subdivision of 81 lots near Spanish Fort. Traffic study, drainage, and wetland permits were addressed. Residents strongly opposed due to traffic and school zone congestion. A motion to table failed on a roll call vote (3-4). Subsequently, a motion to approve with staff conditions passed over opposition.
Subdivision Regulation Amendments: Staff presented proposed amendments to be considered by the County Commission on October 1, 2024. Commissioner Seibert expressed disappointment that the commission had no opportunity for formal input. Staff responded that the process followed guidelines and incorporated previous comments.

Key Outcomes

Approved minutes of August 1, 2024 (unanimous).
Sherwood Grove extension: Approved (unanimous).
e-covery site plan modification: Approved (unanimous).
Chadwell rezoning: Approved (unanimous).
Winfro rezoning: Approved (unanimous).
London's Landing variance (SV 24-14): Approved (unanimous).
London's Landing PUD (24-08): Approved with additional conditions (4 parking spaces per unit, waste pickup coordination, staff conditions) (unanimous).
By the Bay 2 PUD (24-09): Approved with staff conditions and dumpster relocation (unanimous).
Avery Cove subdivision (SPP 24-13): Approved subject to staff conditions (unanimous).
Abbey Oaks subdivision (SPP 24-14): Motion to table failed (3-4). Motion to approve with staff conditions passed (majority, with opposition).
The County Commission will consider subdivision regulation amendments on October 1, 2024.

Meeting Transcript

Good evening. I want to call to order our September 5th Balma County Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. At this time, you'll stand with me. We'll have a prayer and a pledge of allegiance. Father, we're thankful to you for this day. We're thankful to you for this county that we live in. It's a great place to live. We're thankful for the many that make it that way for our elected officials who work to make it that way for all of the staff that's here tonight that uh has made this meeting possible with their hard work. Our first responders, uh, so many father, we're just thankful for we do live in a great place. Thank you, Father, for the opportunity we have to conduct this business tonight. Uh bless us with wisdom uh that we conduct ourselves in a way that we should, and we pray all this in the name of Jesus. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. All right, this time I'll call the roll. Brandon Byas, Robert Davis, Jason Padgett, Michael Mullock, Greg Seibert here, Jamie Stratinger, Glenn Seal, Diane Burnett here, Michael Fletcher, here, George Waters, here, and Reed Key. Here, and we have a quorum. Barely, but we have enough. That's good. So uh you've each received a copy of the minutes of the last work session and regular meeting on October the on excuse me on August the first. Umless anybody has any corrections to that, I'll entertain a motion that they be both of those be approved. So moved. Mr. Cyrus May in motion those be approved to have a second. Second. The strategy second the motion. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed. Minutes are approved. Mr. Dixon, you would like to have your time, please. Sir, sir. Good afternoon, Chairman and Commissioners. Uh, we'll quickly go through our uh public hearing guidelines. We have several public hearings on the agenda for you all tonight. Uh so for those in the audience, uh, public comments should only be made during the public hearing portion of the meeting. Uh, when you come up to the podium, please state your name and address into the microphone for the record. Uh comments should be directed to the chairman of the planning commission, and he can uh uh address them or commit them to the appropriate person. Uh comments should be focused on the application that is being presented at that time, and comments from individuals should be limited to three minutes. Uh and if you're speaking on behalf of a group, you can extend that to five minutes. So there's a couple of rezonings uh tonight. Uh you'll see this in your staff reports. Just a reminder of the criteria that the zoning ordinance says uh we have to review rezoning requests by number one, is it could put uh compatible with the development pattern? Uh number two, is it a change in conditions from since originally zoned? Number three, does it uh conform to the master plan? Number four, does it conflict with public improvements? Number five, uh, is there any adverse traffic uh affects the traffic? And I always like to clarify on this piece that means the overall transportation network. There's always situations where you have to have localized traffic improvements, but this is more on the rezoning stage, more about what's going on in the transportation network in that that area.

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