country and so the mine would extract on Havasukai lands and the mill is on Ute Mountain Ute lands and the transport goes through Dine Bikea so our lands and this is being pushed you know all over the place new uranium mining permits new everything and it's really not going to solve the energy crisis there is absolutely no transition that's going to be able to power what humans can are what are what we're consuming today on indigenous lands we're dealing with all kinds of different projects such as hydrogen hubs and lithium mines on on the on our relatives lands in Nevada um they're trying to protect a sacred site called Pima hub and then the wallapai in Arizona they're actually being mined by our tribe the Navajo Nation and so as we're fighting to protect our land and uphold our sovereignty because the Navajo nation has a law against transport Hall know and others we're also working to hold our own Navajo nation accountable to not mine on our neighbors sacred places and so it's not just uranium it's all of these transitional minerals that are going to affect some community somewhere and we don't want that we need to reduce our consumption in order to have not just a peaceful environment but a safe and and wholesale how do you say uh we're really concerned about our well being and in Dine we say huge we want a place where we can practice our culture and live in Hujan in these last few minutes uh we're coming back to Alex deVries in Amsterdam uh founder of J Dig Economist a research company dedicated to exposing the unintended consequences of artificial intelligence and cryptocurrencies and I'm also looking at a piece by Elizabeth Colbert in the New Yorker magazine the obscene energy demands of AI how can the world reach net zero if it keeps inventing new ways to consume energy and the piece begins with you Alex is it true something like what it would take to fund GP chat is uh the fuel it would take would um uh fuel the country of Ireland Alex GBT sorry yeah indeed it could it it it could be the case uh specifically I try to visualize what would happen if we would just turn Google into a Chat GPT uh whereas a single Chad GPT interaction consumes actually just a very small amount of power just three watt hours which is you know something like a low lumen LED light bulb for running for one hour but then again at the scale of Google you're talking about nine billion of those interactions every single day and then you will indeed have uh the power need of a country like Ireland just to power that and I actually quantified that all AI related energy consumption could quite rapidly uh go up to the level of a country like Argentina by the year 2027 just to power artificial intelligence alone that doesn't include all other data centers that we use for basically cryptocurrency mining and everything else so yeah we see these energy demands are rapidly rising and in a world where we have a limited renewable energy supply available that just means that we are going to be using more of our backup energy source which is fossil fuels Alex DeVries we want to thank you so much for being with us founder of Digeconomist speaking to us from Amsterdam Leona Morgan DNA organizer with Don't Nuke the Climate as well as Hall No and Tim Judson executive director of the Nuclear Information and Resource Service also part of Don't Nuke the Climate Coalition.

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Please welcome your host, interdisciplinary artist and experiential futurist and world builder, Aisha Schillingford.

Welcome, everybody.

Welcome.

It is so beautiful to see all of you.

You know that feeling when you've been like planning like a party for a long time, and then everyone starts to show up, and you're like, oh wow, they're here.

You know, this is real, this is happening.

Umisha.

Um, I'm an artist and uh experiential futurist and world builder and the artistic director of Intelligent Mischief, which is a creative studio that works to unleash the power of black radical imagination to shape the future.

And it is my great pleasure to welcome you here today to Better Worlds Ahead, realizing our brighter climate futures.

It is really such a joy to be with you all today to share this precious space and time dedicated to dreaming and imagining beautiful futures together.

As many of us are participating in Climate Week, who's doing other climate week things and the UN Summit of the Future.

Is anyone doing UN Summit of the Future?

A few of us.

This is a really significant political moment, not just in our country but around the world.

And it feels really good to feel New York City uh filled with people who are dreaming and articulating bold and beautiful visions for our collective futures.

Before I begin, I want to share and invite us to share our appreciation for Arturo Faro for his incredible musical offering.

Our tour is going to be continuing to underscore and provide some sonic facilitation during the event today, and I'm really, really happy to be sharing the stage with him as we envision better futures together.

I want to ground us as we begin in the wisdom of three of our shared ancestors: Grizzly Boggs, Nina Simone, and Martin Luther King Jr.

As I think about Grizzly Boggs, I'm reminded especially of her reverberating question.

What time is it on the clock of the world?

As many of us can feel is an extremely challenging time and certainly a humbling time, a time when what is being required of us is so huge that as individuals we cower in the face of it.

It's a time that it's asking so much of us physically and emotionally and spiritually and materially, but it's not a time for us to turn away.

It's not a time for us to be afraid.

As people who are standing in the breach, as it were, between the world as we know it and the world as it could be, it is an honor and a privilege to be able to dedicate some of our attention to the future and to orient towards that future with hope.

And as the descendants of our ancestors and the ancestors of our descendants, it is our responsibility to orient towards the future with a sense of hope and courage, because our future generations demand it of us.

So hopefully we're all here today because we agree that in order to navigate our current climate reality, we must imagine better climate futures.

And we're really grateful that all of you have chosen to spend your time and energy imagining with us.

Nina Simone.

Nina Simone once said that an artist's duty is to reflect the times.

And I hope as an artist that my work reflects these times as a period of an inevitable transition, a time when an old paradigm is crumbling and a new one is being born.

But as many of our friends at places like movement generation have so wisely said, transition is inevitable, but justice is not.

Because in times like these, times of transition, we find ourselves at the precipice of many different possible futures.

And so in many ways, this moment also reminds me of the book by Martin Luther King Jr., Where Do We Go From Here, Chaos or Community.

He wrote that book at the height of the white supremacist backlash against the advancement to our society that were cultivated by the civil rights movement.

And in that book, he's contemplating a way forward towards his vision of a beloved community, multiracial, democratic, shared accountability, economic democracy, and he's contemplating this way forward even as regressive forces in society were determined to drag the nation into uncertainty and violence.

So so many of us feel the similar tension of this moment and the uncertainty it creates about our collective futures and that of our descendants.

Every day we witness the ways in which we seem to be persisting on a path of domination, extraction, and violence.

So what do we do when faced with uncertainty and instability?

We step into our responsibility as the people of this moment.

We become the people of transition.

Those who learn to navigate uncertainty with the vision, values, and ways of being of a brighter future.

As people of transition, we take responsibility for creating a bold and powerful and hopeful vision for the future.

We reclaim our right and responsibility to imagine and to usher in the more beautiful world our hearts know is possible, to quote our friend Charles Eisenstein.

Fair is convenient.

It renders us immobile.

But hope, hope is powerful, hope is transformative, and hope is actively shaping a better world ahead.

And that is what today is all about.

It's about exercising our duty to hope, our duty to dream, and our duty to imagine.

It's about reconnecting to a North Star and reminding ourselves of what we need to navigate towards it together.

And I'm so honored to help guide us all in that practice alongside Arturo and two of this nation's most visionary people, Stacey Abrams and Ayana Elizabeth Johnson.