0:06We're in the Tom Baker room of the City County Building.
0:09It's August 12th at about 5:15.
0:12We have two meetings tonight.
0:14The first will be the Board of Health, and then the second will be the Board of City Commissioners.
0:18However, before we get started, we would like to if Chaplain Callis could come forward and lead us an invitation and Pledge of Allegiance, please.
0:29As you're able, please stand for our opening prayer and remain standing for the pledge on behalf of Crisis Care Chaplaincy.
0:38Thank you for the opportunity to open this meeting in prayer.
0:43Heavenly Father, thank you for this day for this beautiful evening.
0:48Thank you for your creation for the enjoyment we experience with the change of seasons, the warm summer weather.
0:55Thank you as our state's farmers begin the harvest season for the promise of a good harvest.
1:01And at the same time, be with those who deal with disappointments due to recent summer storms.
1:07Be with others among us that experience health issues.
1:10I think of several chaplains and family members among us that wait for your healing hand.
1:16Please give them your strength and comfort.
1:18Thank you for the privilege of living in this city of Bismarck as well as in this state.
1:23Thank you for the many blessings and opportunities that this local community offers for our families and each of us who live here.
1:31I pray today for those who are in the offices that govern this community.
1:36I ask that your spirit guide as they make decisions.
1:40Thank you for the freedom citizens have to speak up and be heard.
1:45For in discussion and diversity comes strength in our community.
1:49I pray for Mayor Schmidt's and those who work in that office.
1:53I pray for each commissioner as well and other elected officials and city workers and ask that each one would be but be blessed by you as they carry out their responsibilities.
2:05I also pray for our first responders, those who put themselves in harm's way to protect the citizens of this community, our police, another law enforcement, firefighters, EMS workers, dispatch, health care workers, and others.
2:20Please protect them in their line of duty so that they might continue to protect those of us who have placed our trust in them.
2:28So God, we ask for your guidance and everything said and done this evening.
2:32I'm so thankful for each and every one of the blessings you give us.
2:36In Jesus' name we pray.
2:39Say the pledge together.
2:42I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
3:00If we can call the Board of Health to order, call roll, please.
3:07Commissioner Connolly?
3:12And even though it's not published, and I'm not sure that there will be any.
3:15I am going to offer public comment for the Board of Health, as I believe we should be having that at all of our meetings.
3:23So if there's anybody who wishes to speak regarding public health and the update, please come forward.
3:32A second call for public comment.
3:37A third and final call.
3:40Seeing no one and hearing no one, I'll close the public comment period.
3:45Sorry to delay you, but I just want to make sure we are in a proper accord with the law.
3:53As a Board of Health, I am asking for a review.
3:57I have a presentation tonight of our strategic plan that we've been working on.
4:01This will be the plan for the next three years.
4:04And that's the only item I have on the agenda unless you have any other questions following that.
4:09So I will get started.
4:10I think Whitney, you put my presentation up here for me.
4:16I do have the strategic plan on the consent agenda for the City Commission tonight.
4:21So just for your uh reference, um, if anyone's watching at home, they're aware of that too.
4:26Uh so our strategic plan, as I stated, would provide uh direction for the next three years.
4:31It's evolving to the community health needs that we're seeing in our community.
4:36We had the community health needs assessment that we work with the local health care providers and our stakeholders that was completed, and also our community health improvement plan that the board and commission approved in March of 2025.
4:51And so this is basically the the final product of all of those things, um, giving us a roadmap in public health to be able to determine what our priorities, goals, and objectives will be uh moving forward in the next few years.
5:22So that's currently under development.
5:26So our planning process included an environmental scan and review of data.
5:31We looked at, as I stated, the assessments, our program reports and services, internal documents within the department.
5:39And we did a SWOT analysis looking at our strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and some of the challenges that we have in the community, gathered input from the staff and stakeholders, and then really looked at strategic focus areas similar to what the City of Bismarck's plan will be doing as well to give us priorities and then developed goals and objectives for the development of that final strategic plan.
6:06So some of the terminology you'll see in our final plan, the strategic focus areas in our last plan we used priorities, but we wanted to align with the same language as the city.
6:29Our goals and objectives, our goals are broad outcomes that we're going to be working to achieve, and then the objectives will be how we get there to make those goals a reality.
6:40So our priority areas moving forward would be behavioral health.
6:44That includes mental health, addiction, overall uh mental health and wellness, and healthy living is our second priority.
6:54That includes chronic disease, um, some of the work that we're doing with maternal and child health and overall uh health promotion and nutrition, healthy living and just living in general, healthy living in general.
7:07And then access to health care.
7:08Uh we're working with um individuals in the community and community partners to help people get access, remove barriers to care, and really get them the care that they're need and in referrals to uh appropriate support services.
7:23And then lastly is preparedness and public safety, and um that is an ongoing uh thing that public health has been a part of and will continue to be a part of.
7:31We're working on our um emergency preparedness plans.
7:35Uh we will be doing exercises and then also working um to um of course prepare for any infectious disease outbreaks and keep the community safe in that way.
7:47So that takes me to the end of uh my presentation.
7:51I'm here for any questions if you have them.
7:53Uh the plan I believe was included in your packet.
7:57And um after we have the um questions answered, I would ask for your approval of that plan um through motion if possible.
8:06Are there questions Commissioner Rush?
8:12I just want to say I read through the plan.
8:14Thanks for your good work.
8:18I will move to approve the strategic plan.
8:22Is there any discussion?
8:25Hearing none will call roll.
8:29Commissioner Connolly?
8:35There being no further business for the Board of Health.
8:38The Board of Health is now adjourned.
8:41We will call the Board of City Commission to order if we can call role, please.
8:48Commissioner Connolly.
8:51Here, Commissioner Rish.
8:57Our first item is the proclamation.
9:02It's for the 90th anniversary of Social Security.
9:06So whereas on August 14th, 2025 marks the 90th anniversary of Social Security Act signed into law in 1935, establishing one of the most enduring institutions in American history, and whereas for nine decades, Social Security has transformed the lives of millions of Americans by providing critical financial protection for retirees, people with disabilities, surviving spouses, and family.
9:30Therefore, be it resolved that I, Michael Schmitz, mayor of the City of Bismarck on behalf of the City Commission do hereby proclaim August 14th, 2025 as the 90th anniversary of Social Security in the City of Bismarck signed today.
9:46So I think there's a picture opportunity.
10:12Oh small to the front.
11:23We have now arrived at the time for public comment, which is restricted to the items on the consent agenda, regular agenda, or the prior commission agenda from two weeks ago, or actually three weeks ago because of the cycle.
11:38Other than public hearing items.
11:40Anyone who wish to speak, please come forward, identify yourself and tell us which topic you're speaking about.
12:00Mayor Schmidt's and uh members of the committee.
12:02Um I guess I'm Mike Freilick from Laughing Sun Brewing Company, but also a new partner in a new venture called the Eclipse, gonna be a new venue in downtown Bismarck uh coming um on Third Street.
12:15Um but um in in reference to uh changes in the liquor license um and a number of special permits.
12:22Um any restrictions to that are gonna severely limit what we're doing.
12:27We're a caterer in this town as well, and there are constant need for events, but if we're limiting the number of liquor license uh special permits that they can have, we're gonna severely detriment our business coming up and any future business that kind of thinks that that venue space.
12:44So I just wanted to mention that to you guys before we read on the consent agenda.
12:48So thank you for your time.
12:49You bet, and we do have a call for public hearing on the consent agenda on that topic.
12:53I forgot to ask you to sign in to oh sorry.
12:59Um Mike, uh I think the thing on the agenda would allow us to uh issue more liquor licenses or consider that.
13:10There's that there's actually two items there.
13:12Yeah, so there's a title five ordinance change that we have a public hearing coming next meeting on that probably addresses part of what Mike is talking about.
13:24Um the other item is whether or not we need more liquor licenses issued.
13:28That's on the regular agenda.
13:29What I'm speaking in the references is limiting special event permits.
13:34So just um being able to serve liquor off-site from your license establishment, um, being able to how many of those we're gonna be able to do a year.
13:43We don't have a liquor license, but we will have a venue that will do live concerts, um, caterings, weddings, corporate events, uh, charity gallas, all sorts of things.
13:52And that's gonna require um caterers to come in and provide the alcohol and the food.
13:58So we will be open to all sorts of people around this town.
14:02So limiting the number of events that they can do with that will be a detriment to what we're doing.
14:09Appreciate the comments.
14:11Again, this is public comment period.
14:12Anyone who wish to speak, please come forward.
14:25Um, thank you for taking the time today.
14:27I'm Heather and with Lady Jay's Catering.
14:29I'm speaking to the same subject about uh limitations to off-site um liquor permits if we were gonna go back to them.
14:38I know at one point we had I believe it was 30 in place per year or a percentage they went away with that after January, and now it's just a percentage of your overall sales.
14:48Um it then of course we're hearing that there might be another one imposed um where it would limit the amount you could do throughout the year.
15:00Um obviously I think if that moves forward, um not only would it affect all the businesses that that um are involved with LF off-site caterings, um, but it also as you guys well know um would affect the city in the long run too, because of course every time we apply for the special permits, it's payment.
15:14Um and then of course, the more liquor we sell, the more taxes we collect off of that.
15:20And so I'm sure those are all things that are in consideration as we move forward with um looking at that proposal.
15:26Um but I just wanted to um say that uh obviously we would be against putting something proposed towards us like that, um, just because of small businesses and in caterers, that is our job is to go out in the community and provide a service outside of our doors for people that are wanting to gather.
15:45Um and so I think it would be kind of you know, at some point if we're opening more liquor licenses, I get where you might want to have a limit on the outside ones that you would do.
15:54But on the same hand, at some point, you know, people are always gathering, people are always wanting to meet.
15:59Um, and so just obviously going forward, I just want to show interest in the in the fact that um we would be opposed to that.
16:06Okay, so I I'm gonna ask you to read the actual ordinance because I think it addresses that in a positive manner.
16:15So just please please do read it, and we do appreciate your comments, but as I recall the ordinance, it actually opens up the special events without limit, but that there might be restrictions upon how many or what you can do on unit.
16:30I think it was how many.
16:32Not the how many, it's like you can't have repetitive same place events at the same same theme.
16:42So please, but please do read because if we've missed something, we want to hear about it.
16:49Uh call for public comment, please.
16:56A second call for public comment.
17:02A third and final call.
17:05Seeing or hearing anyone, public comment period is now closed.
17:09Thank you for your comments.
17:10Commissioners, what are your wishes with regard to the consent agenda?
17:14Move to approve is presented.
17:18Is there any discussion?
17:21Hearing none will call roll.
17:23Commissioner Cleary, yes.
17:26Commissioner Zenker?
17:28Commissioner Connolly?
17:32Moving to first item A on the regular agenda.
17:35This is a request for public hearing on ordinance 6632 to amend the chapters 9-07 and 9-08 of the city of Bismarck code of ordinances related to the city employee pension plan and the police pension plan.
17:53Um, these are required amendments under Department of Labor Law.
18:01Is that do I have that correct, Julie?
18:04Well, we've met the HR and the pension board in legal have met, and these are required changes.
18:11And I believe Leanne can also give some detail about this, but they are changes that are required to be made.
18:18Under other rules and regulations.
18:22This is a public hearing.
18:24Anyone who wish to speak to that, please come forward.
18:30A second call for public comment.
18:35A third and final call for public comment.
18:39Seeing or hearing anyone, public comment period is now closed.
18:42Commissioners, what are your wishes, or do you have any questions?
18:51I was just wondering what the practical impact.
18:53I read through it about two different times, and I couldn't do what kind of impact does it have on those that are retiring.
18:59Did are they able to change is the formula changed, or what's the deal?
19:05Leanne, I think you can maybe speak to that, but as I recall when looking through it, there's no benefit changes.
19:13Uh clarifications and making sure we're in compliance with law.
19:18Mayor and commissioners, uh Commissioner Rish, yeah, you are correct.
19:22Um these were approved in January by the pension board, the combined trustee board, and it was related to some law changes.
19:30So it's not affecting benefits.
19:33And it's it's kind of routine that we have ERISA law cause requirements to change or amend plans on uh more that more regular basis than I would care to have to admit to, knowing it's an area I practice in sometimes.
19:52Commissioner Okay, okay.
19:56Any other discussion?
19:57I think we have a first and a second.
20:04Commissioner Zenker?
20:06Commissioner Connolly?
20:07Commissioner Cleary?
20:11Item B, a call for public hearing on ordinance 6633 to amend the obstructing law enforcement officers discharge in discharge of their duties.
20:21This is a public hearing.
20:23Um, but I think we wanted clarification first, Julie.
20:27Yes, Mayor Commissioners.
20:29So we we have an uh currently existing obstructing law enforcement ordinance.
20:35This just adds the failure to identify, particularly in traffic stops where people are already required to identify themselves.
20:42It's just when they fail to do so, they're hindering law enforcement's ability to investigate.
20:51So for thank you for the clarification.
20:53Anyone who wish to speak to this, please come forward.
20:58A second call for public comment.
21:03A third and final call for public comment.
21:06Seeing nor hearing any one, the public comment period is now closed.
21:11Commissioners, what are your wishes?
21:16Is there any discussion?
21:17Commissioner Connolly.
21:19Um I asked a question of somebody and um they gave me a list of um pros, cons.
21:30Um criminalizing uh constitutional rights.
21:35Um the right to remain silent if the in action includes not speaking or refuse to answer questions.
21:45Um there's some question whether or not it would uh collide with the Fifth Amendment.
21:51Um could a person be punished simply for asserting that protected right?
22:00Um I don't know one way or another.
22:02I'm just reading the email I got.
22:05Um as far as like the right to assist police, um the U.S.
22:12Supreme Court held citizens generally to have affirmative duty to assist police, criminalizing inaction or inadvertent principle.
22:24There's some concerns with um it being a slippery slope without having more definitive wording than what I have, and I just got this email late, so I didn't get a chance to forward it on to have it addressed, so that's why I'm reading some of it here.
22:39So um I know the motion came out so fast, but yeah, could we table it until next meeting and revisit it so I can share this with Julie?
22:52Because there's more well, we have a first and a second.
22:58We are in discussion period.
22:59We can certainly ask questions of attorneys.
23:04And that there's more to it, that's why do we want to go through it piece by piece or give her a chance to look at it and see if it stays the same or do we adjust it?
23:14So first off, I think that I would like to have attorney mees.
23:18Can you come up to the podium please?
23:28So I don't know if you if we can address any of the questions or comments, because I think this was brought forward as a as a request to help make sure we can discharge our duties as law enforcement.
23:41So mayor commissioners, so we're seeing, especially in traffic stops, people are refusing to identify themselves.
23:47And within the century code and other laws across the country, when a driver is stopped, they are required to hand over their driver's license and identify themselves.
23:57So but we're seeing people who are refusing to do so, and that is hindering the officers' ability to investigate whatever is going on with the traffic stop.
24:05I don't know what else you have.
24:07I mean, we could I'll leave that to the commission to decide what path should be going forward, but um the the uh the refusal to identify themselves is a problem for officers because then they're stuck with somebody who they don't know who they're dealing with.
24:25We don't know what their background is, and it's a simple matter of pulling out ID or identify themselves.
24:32Well, if we passed it tonight and I sent the information we need to make adjustments, we can always do that too.
24:38I'm comfortable with that.
24:41Any other discussion?
24:44Hearing on we'll call roll.
24:47Commissioner Zenker?
24:49Commissioner Connolly?
24:51Commissioner Cleary?
25:00Item C is public hearing on ordinance 6630 to amend sections 12-05-013 11 12-07-04 12-09-18 12-10-06.
25:1312-10-07, 12-13-26 of the City of Bismarck Code of Ordinances related to careless driving speeding and in construction zones, et cetera, and driving under suspension.
25:30Anyone in the background, this is these are amendments due to the law changes in our 2025 legislative session.
25:38So anyone wish you to speak to this, please come forward.
25:44A second call for public comment.
25:48A third and final call for public comment.
25:52Seeing nor hearing anyone, public comment period is now closed, Commissioners.
25:56What are your wishes?
26:00Is there any discussion?
26:03Hearing none will call roll.
26:05Commissioner Connolly?
26:06Commissioner Cleary?
26:09Commissioner Zanker?
26:13Moving to item D, consider requests from the administration department for discussion on releasing one or more Class D full alcohol on off-sale licenses for sale through sealed bid opportunity.
26:28Evening, Mayor Commissioners.
26:30Currently, the City of Bismarck has 26 Class D licenses that are in use.
26:36According to our ordinance, the total number of Class D licenses issued in any year may not exceed the 20, may not exceed 24 plus one additional license for each 2500 people in excess of 60,000 people in our city or individuals.
26:52As shown by the most recent official estimated census based on uh the Census Bureau, we're at 77,772.
27:00And so that would give us 31 licenses that we have total for the city.
27:05So that would leave five available.
27:07Over the last several months, we've had several entities that have requested a D-license in the last probably four months.
27:14And um some of these entities have more than one location.
27:18So there's quite a bit of interest right now, and I'm just coming to you tonight to see what you would like to do if you would like to release any of them.
27:26And under the current ordinance, we could release up to five more.
27:31That's how many we have available, yes, sir.
27:34And if there was more interest, we'd have to look at whether or not ordinance was changed to change the calculation somehow.
27:41Uh the last license that we released was in I believe January of 24.
27:47Um process for releasing those, we would request uh uh sealed bids for those.
27:54Uh and we do typically have a reserve of 200,000 that we set for those licenses.
28:00That's been our our history, and we would put it out for bid um and then open those whenever that date closes and go from there.
28:10So based upon based upon the contacts you've had how many how many are we looking at that are really looking for licenses?
28:18There's potentially seven locations that are looking to have a license.
28:28I've got a question.
28:29Well, in the ordinance itself, the license sells for what, 4500 dollars, but we don't charge that, we put it out for bids.
28:35No, that's the renewal.
28:37Oh, that's the renewal.
28:41Commissioner Cleary.
28:43Um, I guess Doug, obviously we have another public hearing coming up for that 6623 that's going to be making amendments to the like liquor license process.
28:53Is any of that going to be affecting the D license?
28:56It will not affect the number of licenses that we would allow to go out based on our population.
29:02We're not making any changes to those requirements.
29:09What would you say, Commissioner?
29:12I mean, we could amend that.
29:13We could amend it to increase the total amount of licenses available, which I mean at some point in time I think might be a discussion, and maybe that is when we do that.
29:23It's kind of been a hot topic.
29:25I mean, since I've been on the commission that it's hard to change it without well, what here's what happens is government has made it a commodity.
29:32And that's typically not how you want your government to treat businesses.
29:37But again, those those 20, what'd you say, 24, 25, 26, 22?
29:42I mean, they have some of them have had to pay a lot of money just to get those licenses.
29:47So you have to respect that as well.
29:49So it's a it's a fine line to walk.
29:53And I totally respect that, and I don't want to disrupt that because it's been created and it's it's out there.
30:00But at the same time, we have potentially seven applicants, which means to me there is a demand.
30:06It certainly is a potential demand more for more than what we currently have available.
30:10So the the quite request as I understand is what do we want to do?
30:14Do we want to release some all?
30:17Do we not put and then of course set the reserve for sealed bid?
30:24Um I guess my opinion would be that we do release some of them.
30:28I think that the last time we talked when we did the last one, it was like there was only the availability for one or two, maybe three, I guess, but it wasn't that it wasn't five.
30:38So obviously we've grown.
30:41I mean, I'd I don't I don't know if we want to do all of them, but I certainly think we could do some of them if we're sitting on five.
30:48They're the enough growth for five.
30:52I've just got a question.
30:53So whoever paid $311,000 in 2024.
30:58What happens if they go out of business or whatever?
31:01Can they resell that to somebody else?
31:08Commissioner Zenker.
31:10It's the golden ticket.
31:11Commissioner is I would think I'd be comfortable with three.
31:16In fact, I'll make a motion that we have direct staff to um release three licenses based on traditional means of bidding and move forward with that.
31:28Do you do we ought to have a set of reserve in that or this?
31:30I think it's in the ordinance.
31:33It's not an ordinance, uh, the reserve.
31:35The the minimum bid is not right.
31:39What did we do last time?
31:41I think it I thought it was.
31:44It was 200,000 last time.
31:46And I can't remember without going back to the I just want to make sure we cover it.
31:53I I can't without going back to the ordinance, I can't remember.
32:06Someone is looking, right?
32:07We're just not waiting.
32:12That's a fair question.
32:33Mayor and commissioners, uh the ordinance reference says the board may set a minimum bid or other conditions of the bid which shall be stated in the advertisement, and that's in relation to uh an additional class D or Class E license.
32:48So the commission establishes the base bid price.
32:51And we don't remember what we did last time?
32:53Uh mayor and commissioners, I believe it was either 200 or 250,000.
32:59Whitney's saying 200,000.
33:01And just for clarification, I I think there was maybe a misspeak.
33:05I think the last class D was issued in 2023.
33:08So we're two and a half years past that, not just a year and a half.
33:15I'll continue my motion to include the same minimum bid as the previous license.
33:21Do we have discussion?
33:23Whitney, you don't have to put that long pause in there for that.
33:29I don't see any discussion.
33:33Commissioner Cleary?
33:36Commissioner Zenker?
33:38Commissioner Connolly?
33:42Next item E is fall leaf collection update.
33:52Good evening, uh, Mayor, Commissioners.
33:54Um, about three weeks ago, um, we uh had talked about the subject, and at that time you'd asked me to go back and find a little bit more information and report back.
34:04And so that's what I'm here uh to do this evening.
34:07Um over the course of the last three weeks I did have um uh a few people reach out and offer some comments.
34:17And you know, the first comment that was most prevalent was that um instead of the bags, maybe residents can just place garbage cans out for collection, you know, those 35 gallon garbage cans.
34:30And by all means, if we do a fall leaf collection, they can place those cans out there.
34:36And so um they were thinking that instead of the bags, just place cans.
34:42And then I also had one take it one step further, and um they actually recommended that the city furnish those 35 gallon trash cans for everybody to put their leaves in and collect.
34:55And so I'm I'm passing that along as well.
35:00I did have another individual that reached out and said, you know, there's no no need to collect the leaves in the fall.
35:07They recommended that everybody just mulch them.
35:11And so I'm also passing that along.
35:14Had several individuals that reached out and you know said, you know, we've got 17 grass dumpsters across town.
35:22Um they didn't think that there was a need for the collection as well.
35:26Um that you know everybody could utilize those those 17 sites.
35:32And then there was another one that had a concern that we were taking away their ability to put the leaves and grass in their city furnished 96 gallon can.
35:42And I explained that no that these that ability is still there.
35:47Um we're not talking about removing that.
35:50If they so choose to put anything in that 96 gallon can, um they can they can continue to do that.
35:57And so um those were some of the comments that I had received.
36:01And so in doing the research on the the recyclable bags, um, I did find that they are available locally, and the the prices that they're advertised online is anywhere from 50 cents to 60 cents a bag.
36:18Usually they sell them in a pack of five.
36:21And so um, however, when I did go out to uh to get some of the bags for samples for you, um, one of the places actually had them on sale, so they were 30 cents a bag versus the 50, and so anyway, the range and is from 30 cents to to 60 cents.
36:39Um there's also numerous places that you can order them online, and uh the shipping is uh relatively quick for for a lot of those places, and so um in doing a research, I also noticed that there are um recyclable plastic bags out there, and so um we kind of reached out to get a price on those, but then in doing a little bit more research on those, they're compostable but only under a controlled environment, meaning controlled temperature, controlled moisture, and for what we're doing and dumping them at the landfill, they're probably not going to biodegrade out there, and so I I didn't bring that option forward this evening.
37:23And um, so in looking at um what we can buy them for, um there's several distributors out there that we could buy them from.
37:35Uh some of them the lead time was out several months, and so um for those um we had to go with a distributor that could actually get them here in a lot shorter time frame.
37:49And so the if we bought them in smaller quantities, our cost would be about 88 cents a bag, um, which is quite a bit more than you can go downtown and buy them for.
38:02Um, if we bought them in bulk, which is a truckload, meaning about 66,000 bags or a cost of about 45,000, our cost came down to 66 cents a bag, still more than you can go and buy them on the street.
38:19And so um with that, um, I just want to report that back this evening because that was the um my assignment was to try to figure out you know, could we buy them and how much would they cost us if we did buy them?
38:32So those are the costs.
38:35So with that, we would still be looking for um a decision um if we should be if we should move forward with the fall leaf collection.
38:45Um if the answer is yes, then should we require the residents to place them in a paper bag, or um put them in a paper bag, therefore they could all be composted and recycled, or would we allow residents to put them in a plastic bag, and then therefore they would just end up in the landfill, like they do if they set them out in previous years.
39:13And so um, and then if we do more move forward with it, how often should we do it?
39:22And um last time if you recall, my recommendation was uh twice in the fall, probably once in mid-October and once in late October, with the flexibility to be um to adjust should a snowstorm or something come through.
39:38And um, because in order to make this happen, we do have to take roads and streets employees to do this collection for us.
39:45And if we have a snowstorm, I'm gonna have to shift them into priority, which would be snow removal, and so then I'd like to shift this around if if at all possible.
39:54So with that, uh any questions of me.
40:03Yep, thank you, Steve.
40:14Um I guess uh I I know that staff um I think feels the same way as I do.
40:21If we're going to do the leaf pickup, um we want it to be combustible.
40:26We don't want it to end up in the landfill.
40:28So like when he he still leaves the option.
40:32Uh he still leaves the option of of the plastic bags and like the general pickup and them going in the landfill.
40:38And I think that though obviously that's an option, I don't think it's an option that we want to take.
40:44Um I think that the question on the table is if we do a leaf pickup, which I do think that there's a portion of the population that does want it, um, do we just ask them to supply their own bag and or bin?
41:02Um because then that way obviously he is also getting calls for people who don't think it's a requirement.
41:08And if we're gonna be funding it, then there's not balance for those people.
41:12Um if we're providing the service but they still have the obligation of the bag, then at least it's not costing the additional funds uh for purchasing them and then having citizens that aren't using the service still footing that bill, if that makes sense is kind of where I'm at with it.
41:33Um I still would like to offer the surface service.
41:36I think there is a decent amount of people who have asked about it and are worried about that, and that it was one of the bigger questions when we talked about stepping away from extras, so um that's I guess where I am at with it.
41:51If anyone else has thoughts.
41:57Yeah, I feel comfortable with the two-week pickup paper bag or cans and the citizens provide their own cans and paper bags.
42:05I think that's reasonable, rational.
42:07It it'll be helpful to a lot of folks.
42:10And I mean I think too like I'm glad we looked into it.
42:12If it would have been way cheaper for us to buy them in bulk and provide them, then I would have probably considered it a a viable option, but it sounds like it's probably more expensive for us to do that for pe and then for then people to just go out and buy them.
42:25So I guess that would be um my preference at this point.
42:32So we should probably we could do it by consensus, I guess, but it would be.
42:37Do you Steve do you want to motion?
42:38Unless he wants a motion.
42:42I I don't think we need a motion.
42:48And I need to make sure Commissioner Connelly your consensus, because I haven't heard from you or seen your head.
42:53And I may have to do that.
42:53I'm fine with the consensus.
42:55Um I don't I don't need a motion if if that's the consensus of of the commission, I'm fine with that.
43:01And I would just agree too that like your flexibility in those dates is probably necessary.
43:06So we'll leave that up to you.
43:15Consider request from the Finance Department to accept the 2024 audit results and the 2024 annual comprehensive financial report.
43:25Uh good evening, Mayor Commissioners.
43:27Well, this meeting seems kind of short, so I'm gonna take my sweet time.
43:32So then I'm gonna cut you off.
43:37Um, this is just kind of uh uh, you know, really just a report I want to uh present to the city commission.
43:43Uh we do it each year, but really it's the annual financial report that we put together in the finance department.
43:49It really is a c a compilation of entire years of of the entire year of 2024 and in our work and the city's work on uh preparing basically what really happened during that year.
44:01It really is whereas a budget is kind of a forecast of what we're thinking into the future.
44:06This is kind of a look in the past to see what has happened, uh what are the results of of our financial operations and how are we doing um in reality.
44:17And honestly, uh uh kind of like the mayor, I I worked for a CPA firm and I've I under I I understand the intricacies of what goes into preparing these reports and the compliance that has to be followed, and um it is we are obviously audited by a third party that you will hire.
44:34Id Bailey is our auditor.
44:36Um they uh have performed their audit uh once again.
44:41Um like I said, it's a hundred and sixty-page report that really provides an in-depth look onto how the city is doing financially uh or has done in 2024.
44:51And the really what what I would are my department does is really puts this report together based on these accounting standards that we have to follow, and then we have the auditors audit them.
45:00But I use this when we project out future budgets and things of that nature.
45:06We this report is integral um into our understanding of how things are gonna work out in the future and how things look in the budget.
45:14So that being said, you know, we uh we've they've looked at our internal controls, they've evaluated how we're operating internally.
45:23You know, not uh they obviously can't look at every single number that we have in the system.
45:28They look at things over a certain threshold, the auditors do.
45:30And so the auditors also evaluate our control controls and see how they operate.
45:34Um they had nothing to report to us in terms of um controls, uh overall controls.
45:40Um they had they've audited our federal grants, which they're required to.
45:45Uh we we receive um uh uh ten over ten million dollars in federal grants, um I don't even remember the number.
45:56Um but we we are required to have a compliance audit on several and so they performed that on several grants.
46:02We had no findings on that.
46:03So overall we have a what's called a c a non-modified or clean audit opinion uh once again.
46:09Um we we passed the audit.
46:12We did have a finding uh related to uh uh the event center, similar to last year.
46:18Um it's relating to the controls related to the event center.
46:22Um, you know, as you've all seen and discussed, um they're all related to uh design of controls related to various things um at the event center and how they run operations.
46:34Uh that's nothing new that we have we've seen.
46:37Um it's something that they have brought up a finding on last year.
46:41So that's nothing unusual, but uh we know we've kind of reassured the auditors that it's being taken care of and the uh city commission and the staff are working to uh mitigate those findings.
46:52Um with that being said, we also prepare uh what's called an annual comprehensive financial report, which is submitted to the the Government Finance Officers Association Association, the GFOA, and they do a separate review of our financial report to kind of see if we complied with all the requirements um all accounting requirements, and so we usually get comments about six months later.
47:15Um and we get a if we did a good job, we get a little award, a little little thing we put on our on our plaque.
47:22And um but yeah, we're very proud of what we do.
47:25Our staff are very proud of of our fiscal services staff put together this report, and it takes a lot of time.
47:31We start it in February and we finish it in June.
47:35So it's a long time to put together while we're trying to run the day-to-day operations of the city.
47:40So it's uh it's a big undertaking, and I just want to uh thank our thank the auditors that worked on our Bailey to who worked on our on on the audit and thank our staff uh led by Eric Lund and Paige Gilgallen.
47:53Uh really appreciate their hard work and dedication.
47:56I'll send for any questions.
48:00Go ahead, Commissioner Rush.
48:03I didn't read every line, but it's a lot of data.
48:06How'd we do in 2024?
48:09Did we uh come in under budget overall?
48:14Yes, uh Commissioner Rish, great question.
48:16Yeah, we came in under budget overall um in in various funds.
48:20Um like I said, the only funds were really required to budget by um by statute are general funds, special revenue funds, and death service funds.
48:28I know that might not mean a whole lot, but basically um any funds that mainly receive tax dollars are are are required to be budgeted and followed, but we came in under budget on on all of them.
48:43Any other questions?
48:44I I would like to personally compliment.
48:46I mean, I know your staff put this report together.
48:50Um I do know in some situations actually the audit firm puts the entire financial statements together.
48:55So the fact that we have the quality staff that we have to be able to do that and not have a finding on the financial reporting is is good because I issue several where there's findings because people can't put their financial statement together.
49:12And we we need to accept this, so we need a motion.
49:16Um move to accept the audit results of 2024 and the financial report.
49:25Do we have any discussion?
49:28Hearing none will call roll.
49:30Commissioner Zenker?
49:31Commissioner Connolly?
49:33Commissioner Cleary?
49:38Uh item five is other business.
49:40Do we have any other business?
49:41Go ahead, Commissioner Rush.
49:43Mayor, um, we had an incident down on Michigan Avenue.
49:46Your your um depart portfolio, but we had the sewer backup, and I was just gonna I I talked to Mr.
49:52Mark this morning and um ask him to explain what the situation is.
50:00And the reason I'm bringing it up because when I look at my um utility bill, it says 30 cents sewer backup protection.
50:03So it might incline folks to say, oh, I got insurance on my uh my sewer backup when probably not as clear cut as that.
50:12And I just we had a it was a bad situation, as you well know.
50:16But um could you brief us on what the 30 cents is and um what the situation is with the claims that are being filed?
50:25Uh Mayor Commissioners, Commissioner Rish.
50:27Um, the the 30 cents goes to a sewer backup policy, is what we have, and it's to help um relieve the financial burden due to sewer backups that may occur.
50:37And this this covers sewer backups that happen due to blockages or obstructions in the sewer main, so not your service lines.
50:46So that's what our policy is there to cover.
50:48Um with what happened on July 20th on Michigan Avenue.
50:52I mean, I think we're we're around 20 residents.
50:56Um we're waiting for Enderf to review all the information to give us a determination back before we're able to make next steps of what what we're able to participate in.
51:05So that's what we're waiting for.
51:07There's certainly a lot of information to to be reviewed on that one.
51:13Commissioner Rush, go ahead.
51:14So does this 30 cents go to Endor?
51:17Or do we keep it at on a we keep it in the city, right?
51:21The 30 cents uh goes into a special fund to to help with financial burdens on these properties.
51:28Um so the 30 cents with our accounts equates to roughly just 84,000 a year.
51:38Any other questions?
51:43Is there any other business?
51:47If there is not, then I the next item is an executive session, so I would request the motion to move to executive session.
51:56Move to enter executive session under North Dakota Century Code 44-04-19.2 regarding contract negotiations for land acquisition.
52:11Hearing none will call the role.
52:13Commissioner Cleary?
52:16Here, Commissioner Zenker?
52:18Commissioner Connolly?