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Broken Arrow Drainage Advisory Committee Meeting - Oct 27, 2025

Meeting Portal — Monday, October 27, 2025
BodyBroken Arrow, Oklahoma
SessionMeeting Portal
DateMonday, October 27, 2025
StatusFILED
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1:17

It is six o'clock.

1:20

Welcome to the mic on now.

1:25

Can you hear me?

1:26

Oh, great.

1:26

Yeah.

1:27

Amber, you move over.

1:29

Welcome to the City of Broken Air Drainage Advisory Committee meeting.

1:33

Ladies and gentlemen, we do not have quorum tonight.

1:36

We will not be able to have a meeting in which we can take action, but we do want to, because so many of you have taken time out of your schedule.

1:50

But there are several of you here that I believe want to either speak or hear about the issues that are on our agenda.

1:58

So with that said, um we will go ahead and call the meeting to order.

2:03

We'll do roll call, even though we know we don't have quorum, just so we have on record who is in attendance.

2:08

Can we do that?

2:13

Here can we change your name, please?

2:18

Yeah.

2:19

Oh, that's what this means.

2:21

Got it.

2:26

Wallace.

2:27

Here.

2:29

Parks.

2:31

Mason.

2:33

Here.

2:34

Thank you.

2:35

Uh we're gonna move past item three consideration of consent agenda.

2:41

And move right on to consideration.

2:44

Nope.

2:44

Move on to item five presentations.

2:47

We're gonna skip that.

2:47

We're gonna skip that one.

2:48

Let's just go to the six A.

2:50

We'll go to six A twenty-five-one five oh eight consideration discussion and possible action to recommend to council to expend funds for drainage design improvements in the Tucson Village 2 subdivision.

3:01

Again, just for clarification, there will be no possible action on this, but is there anybody who would like to speak on that issue?

3:08

We can have Pat actually give a presentation.

3:10

We'll get Pat if you want to go ahead and give an abbreviated presentation on that.

3:14

Yeah, very good.

3:16

You're running on informal.

3:24

So for the committee that is here and for the public, um, Tucson Village.

3:30

This is actually Tucson Village 2.

3:32

It is located south of Tucson Street and west of County Line Road.

3:37

The area in question that we're bringing before you is that box area that you see.

3:42

There is it's called a missing overland drainage swell.

3:45

We'll get to that as we move along.

3:48

Um here's the blow-up version of it.

3:51

Now you do see that there's floodplain even on some of these properties.

3:54

What I do want to point out is that in uh February of 21, a low marf was filed with FEMA and removed those due to the construction and the reshaping of the area.

4:04

FEMA did remove those from the floodplain.

4:06

The maps just haven't been updated yet.

4:09

Uh the subdivision was platted in 2021.

4:12

South of this subdivision is unincorporated Tulsa County.

4:18

The off-site has about 15 acres draining to it.

4:22

I'll explain the 15.

4:23

The ex engineering plans show 10.6.

4:26

The city did 15.

4:29

Based on just what maps was used.

4:31

So what the recommendation will be when this is presented to the full committee is for a design study to figure out how to address there was an overland, there was a drainage swell that was supposed to be constructed along that southern property line of all the houses that was not constructed in the um original construction of this site.

4:53

So just some pictures of the area.

4:55

Now I took these pictures here.

4:57

So what you're looking at is standing on that south property line looking towards the houses.

5:02

It looks nice and green.

5:04

This was after the spring rains, and the ground through there, I was sinking as I walked through.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Engineering And Infrastructure█████████████████████████████████████████████58%
Water And Wastewater Management██████████████████23%
Procedural██████████13%
Community Engagement█████6%
Summary of Proceedings

Broken Air Drainage Advisory Committee Meeting - October 27, 2025

The City of Broken Air Drainage Advisory Committee convened at 6:00 PM on October 27, 2025, to discuss three major drainage improvement projects. However, the committee confirmed it did not have a quorum and could not take any official votes or actions. Instead, staff and property owners presented detailed evidence regarding severe drainage failures in residential and commercial areas to inform future bond proposals and design studies. A special meeting will be scheduled shortly to attempt actions before the holiday season, and attendees were invited to sign in to document their support for the proposals.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Jerry Will (Resident, East Natchez/Lynn Lane): Expressed strong concern regarding sleepless nights during heavy rain events and stated a desire to protect his home and family. He voiced full support for any committee action to address the drainage issues affecting his property.
  • Kenneth Hall (Property Owner Representative, 6100 Center Commercial): Confirmed that all owners in the commercial subdivision were present and expressed 100% support for moving forward with design improvements via the 2018 bond program (Prop 6). He noted the properties have been great to work with and requested inclusion in the bond issue.

Discussion Items

  • Tucson Village 2 Subdivision (Item 6A, 25-1123):

    • Presenter: Patrick Wilson (Stormwater Division Manager).
    • Issue: A "missing overland drainage swell" was not constructed along the southern property line during the 2021 platting. Water currently flows across yards and through fences to the street, overwhelming the street system.
    • Details: The area is adjacent to an unincorporated section of Tulsa County. While FEMA maps show properties removed from the floodplain post-construction, standing water and marshy conditions persist due to the lack of the designed drainage easement.
    • Public Input: Residents attended an informal meeting on September 4, 2025, and unanimously expressed willingness to work with the city to alleviate drainage concerns.
    • Proposal: Recommendation to expend funds for a drainage design study to address the missing swell.

  • 6100 Center Commercial Subdivision (Item 6B, 25-1123):

    • Presenter: Patrick Wilson and Kenneth Hall.
    • Issue: A 40-year-old "fabriform" concrete channel constructed in 1985 is severely deteriorated. The fabric layer is separating, allowing water to flow underneath, causing erosion, undercutting the channel, and threatening nearby utility poles and an 8-inch sanitary sewer line.
    • Details: The channel drains approximately 20 acres from the commercial area plus an additional 10+ acres from Commerce Crossing and parts of Floral Haven Cemetery. There is no dedicated drainage easement; the city only has access over the sewer line. Access to utilities is difficult, requiring coordination with Floral Haven or private owners.
    • Proposal: Recommendation to expend design funds to plan a new channel that protects utilities and secures necessary easements from individual property owners (approx. 88 businesses on 60 parcels).

  • East Natchez Street and Lynn Lane (Item 6C, 25-1527):

    • Presenter: Patrick Wilson.
    • Issue: A 60-inch sanitary sewer trunk line is located in the embankment of a private pond, adjacent to a residential house. During a recent "micro burst" (2.5 inches in 45 minutes), water from Natchez Street crossed over 9th Street, jumped a man-made berm, and impacted the property.
    • Details: The area has ~17 acres of drainage; the street itself acts as the conveyance for water from upstream subdivisions built in 1980 and 1984. Erosion has occurred previously, with riprap installed in 2021 that is now being tested by heavier flows.
    • Proposal: Recommendation to expend design funds to analyze the pond outlet structure and mitigate street flooding, potentially by adding inlets or piping water to a nearby concrete-lined channel. The landowner has previously expressed willingness to allow work on private property.

Key Outcomes

  • Quorum Status: The committee lacks a quorum; therefore, no motions, votes, or authorizations were taken on any agenda items. The meeting was adjourned as an informal discussion.
  • Next Steps:
    • The committee intends to schedule a special meeting before the Thanksgiving holiday to attempt to take action on these drainage items.
    • Meeting frequency may shift to quarterly (last Monday of the month).
    • A sign-in sheet was circulated to document property owners and residents present, creating a record of public support for the bond proposals.
  • Bond Context: Staff and owners expressed strong anticipation for utilizing the 2018 Bond Program (Prop 6) to fund the necessary design studies and future construction once a quorum is established.

Meeting Transcript

It is six o'clock. Welcome to the mic on now. Can you hear me? Oh, great. Yeah. Amber, you move over. Welcome to the City of Broken Air Drainage Advisory Committee meeting. Ladies and gentlemen, we do not have quorum tonight. We will not be able to have a meeting in which we can take action, but we do want to, because so many of you have taken time out of your schedule. But there are several of you here that I believe want to either speak or hear about the issues that are on our agenda. So with that said, um we will go ahead and call the meeting to order. We'll do roll call, even though we know we don't have quorum, just so we have on record who is in attendance. Can we do that? Here can we change your name, please? Yeah. Oh, that's what this means. Got it. Wallace. Here. Parks. Mason. Here. Thank you. Uh we're gonna move past item three consideration of consent agenda. And move right on to consideration. Nope. Move on to item five presentations. We're gonna skip that. We're gonna skip that one. Let's just go to the six A. We'll go to six A twenty-five-one five oh eight consideration discussion and possible action to recommend to council to expend funds for drainage design improvements in the Tucson Village 2 subdivision. Again, just for clarification, there will be no possible action on this, but is there anybody who would like to speak on that issue? We can have Pat actually give a presentation. We'll get Pat if you want to go ahead and give an abbreviated presentation on that. Yeah, very good. You're running on informal. So for the committee that is here and for the public, um, Tucson Village. This is actually Tucson Village 2. It is located south of Tucson Street and west of County Line Road. The area in question that we're bringing before you is that box area that you see. There is it's called a missing overland drainage swell. We'll get to that as we move along. Um here's the blow-up version of it. Now you do see that there's floodplain even on some of these properties. What I do want to point out is that in uh February of 21, a low marf was filed with FEMA and removed those due to the construction and the reshaping of the area. FEMA did remove those from the floodplain. The maps just haven't been updated yet. Uh the subdivision was platted in 2021. South of this subdivision is unincorporated Tulsa County. The off-site has about 15 acres draining to it.

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