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Okay, I'd like to call to order uh this meeting of the broken arrow uh board of adjustment.

Boom.

Roll call, please.

Michelle Bergwall here.

George get Jessquire.

Here.

Kamara Washington.

Here.

Rebecca Hinkle.

Here.

Jed Hatch.

Here.

The first item on our agenda is the review of minutes from two prior meetings, our October meeting and then one back from January.

No.

I'd motion to approve.

Second.

Michelle Bergwall.

Yes.

George Jessquires?

Yes.

Kamara Washington.

Yes.

Rebecca Hinkle.

Yes.

Judd Hatch.

Yes.

Okay.

We are here today to hear um here the public hearing on uh application for a variance.

Um 26-152.

We want to hear what uh is up for consideration.

Yes.

Public hearing consideration and possible action regarding VAR-002576-2025.

TFCU approximately 1.37 acres commercial general requests a variance from highway design overlay district orientation regulations.

Located approximately one thousand one-third mile north of West Tucson Street, also known as 121st Street.

And just in and this is a typo in um in the title in the text of the staff report supposed to say just west as opposed to just east.

VAR-002576-2025 involves 1.37 acres, which is zoned commercial general is a request to waive the highway design overlay district orientation regulations located approximately one third one third mile north of West Tucson and just west of South Aspen.

This property is in the process of being developed into a Tinker Federal Credit Union branch due to site conditions, mainly topography from due to the Tom turnpike on ramps.

One, a necessary hardship.

The analysis.

Such conditions are productive to the particular piece of property involved.

Other properties which above the Creek Turnpike or OK 51 often do not have the same truck topic topographical challenges as this location.

Number three, public good.

Relief, if granted, would not cause substantial detriment to the public good or impair the purposes and intent of the ordinance or the comprehensive plan.

Because this property is located at a lower elevation than both Aspen Avenue and the view of the site is mostly not visible from the Creek Turnpike.

Allowing the orientation of the building to face Aspen Avenue will not cause a substantial detriment to the public good or impair the purposes of the ordinance or the comprehensive plan.

Four minimum variance.

The variance, if granted, would be the minimum necessary to alleviate the unnecessary hardship analysis.

The property could be built fronting the Creek Turnpike, however, however, it would be visible mostly to westbound on ramp traffic and not those driving on the Creek Turnpike itself.

Granting a variance to waive the HDOD orientation requirement will be the minimum variance to the HDOD design requirements.

Recommendation.

In staff's opinion, the request for a variance to waive the HDOD orientation requirements meets the four criteria for the board to grant a variance.

Therefore, staff recommends that VAR-002576 2025 be approved.

And the applicant is present.

Okay.

And one quick question I have is that is this is not it's not a setback requirement, it's just the new HDOD requirement for facing.

Yes, exactly.

Yeah, so any um any development that I think is if I remember correctly within 550 feet, um essentially any development that fronts um either the creek turnpike, um OK 51, um a controlled access freeway, they have to um orient a building to be facing towards the turnpike.

Um developments achieve that differently, so sometimes they'll have you know, like the kind of like a front edge road and the front doors um oriented to the to the turnpike.

Um others they might have the rear of the building oriented to the turnpike, but it's um they make changes to the facade and signage and stuff like that in a way to where it you know it doesn't you're not looking at the back of a building, right?

So that's kind of um part of the intent with that.

Okay.

Does the representative for the applicant wish to come and speak?

Good afternoon or good evening, one of the two.

Uh my name's Michael Doggett with Animus Civil Engineering.

Uh, do you need my address as well for the record?

Or I don't believe so.

Where uh I'm the civil engineer for the TFCU at the corner of Aspen and Creek Turnpike, and uh Jose and staff have done a great job, I think, of putting this together to show.

But uh, we do have some topography challenges.

This whole development does face east towards aspen, so that's the way that um generally the traffic's flowing if you if you faced it to the south towards Creek Turnpike, we're basically facing it into a wall of dirt that no one's gonna see, and you're putting the back of the development back of the building towards the development.

So that was the reason for the orientation.

And okay.

This is the process, so we're here to answer any questions if you guys have any.

Otherwise, respectfully request your approval.

I couldn't really tell from the application.

Is there a new curb cut along aspen, or will you be accessing the property from the existing light with that development?

The pictures were a little old, that new development.

There is one access point going in that's directly across from the Chick-fil-A entrance.

It'll be a ride-in ride out with a median island very similar to how Chick-fil-A operates.

The one where they try to keep you from going left to the right and got that one.

Yeah, I understand.

Okay.

Yeah.

And there's no access to Creek Turnpike either.

Just to clarify too.

And how does the elevation of your site can um relate to like the fire station and the dental office that are there?

So the fire stations on the north side of Norfolk is uh it's pretty comparable.

So that that part across is pretty level, I would say, all the way to the back.

I think there's some photos that I'd set the Joseph from about an hour ago that I took while I was out there.

But uh, I don't know if I have one in the packet.

I do have one on my phone that is from the intersection of Norfolk and Aspen looking that direction.

And you can see it's it's generally flat on the site, but the road starts going up as you go up towards Creek Turnpike, right?

Okay.

So you're a little higher than them, but not as high as the turnpike.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's still a good 15 feet below the front edge road.

Okay.

In that location.

Any other questions?

I studied this pretty well.

I think I have a pretty good understanding of why you're making the request.

Yeah, these are helpful.

I noticed on the elevation of your plan, it it showed like a screen wall in front of the HBAC, and I didn't know if that was gonna, because the road is kind of up higher, if that screen wall was gonna have to be.

I know we have to, and Jose helped me here, but I know we have to lift it two foot above the parapet height raised parapet heights.

Yeah, the the parapet or any screening um our code requires it only to match the height of the um HVAC or mechanical units.

Um so that was one thing we had discussed as well.

Um you know, there is a bit of that, you know.

If you're on the roadway, um you know you might still be able to see um you know some of those um you know features, but that's just kind of one of the you know challenges I think they have with this um site, but our code only requires that those um screening or you know parapets match the height um of those um those rooftop units, not necessarily um screening from uh site lines that's that's a bit different.

We don't have that in our code.

Copy.

I was just curiosity.

I had noticed it, so I was curious.

Understood.

Um there was there was another, I guess one obviously if your building is gonna be facing aspen, do you would do you still plan on having signage that faces that that uh the on ramp or what whatever just uh uh I'm gonna do it?

Did we include I don't know if we include signage in our site plan?

Yeah, I don't think you had anything.

I think it was just um kind of like a small monument.

Uh-huh.

Small monument, yeah, that would face it.

Uh I think that would be good.

Yep.

Okay.

Anything else?

Thank you.

Any other questions or more?

Thank you guys.

Appreciate your time.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Anybody like to make a motion?

I move to approve the request for variance.

Uh second.

Michelle Bergwall, yes.

George Jessquire?

Yes.

Kamara Washington.

Yes.

Rebecca Hinkle?

Yes.

Judd Hatch.

Yes.

Okay.

Yeah.

That concludes the public hearing portion of our meeting.

Is there any general board business?

No.

Okay.

Any additional information?

I just want to introduce myself.

Jane Weyrick, I remember Michelle from before.

Uh worked here from uh 2017 to 2021, then lived out of state for a few years, but I am back now as the planning and development manager.

Um and I wanted to introduce you to Rebecca Blaine, who's the planning section manager.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Okay.

I don't see that we've got any additional information for our meeting.

I have a motion for adjournment.

I'll make a motion to adjourn.

No second.

Michelle Bergwall, yes.

George Jessquire?

Yes.

Kamara Washington?

Yes.

Rebecca Hinkle?

Yes.

Judd Hatch.

Yes.

All right.

We're adjourned.

All right.

We're done.

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