All right, so at five thirty we'll go ahead and get started that roll call.

Mindy Payne here.

Jonathan Townsend.

Here.

J.

Lee Clempa.

Here.

Jason Cohen.

Here.

Robert Gornson.

Here.

I don't remember two.

Uh three old businesses.

Yep.

B three A twenty-six dash one ninety-six.

Staff want to cover that.

Yep.

Okay.

So this is re consideration discussion of possible action regarding PUD dash zero zero two five five zero-two zero two five and BAZ dash zero zero two three seven four dash two zero two five.

D and B processing, nine point one five acres, agricultural to industrial light, and abrogation of PUD one ninety-three.

It is located generally one half mile south of Washington Street, one half mile east of the Creek Turnpike, and is uh the rezoning is a concurrent request to change the underlying zoning on the property from agricultural to industrial light again.

Um this item was continued from the previous planning commission.

At that meeting, planning commission expressed concern regarding proposed screening details in the PUD and specifically the appearance of the southern frontage facing fence and the preservation of the existing wire fence to the west.

Um I will skip the rest of the summary since you've heard it.

Um and just touch on the changes.

Um the south and east fence details are remaining the same.

Not south, I'm sorry.

North.

North and east fence details will be uh the same requirements.

The south fence that is facing Gary Street will be an eight-foot opaque metal fence with a gate and columns, and the fence to the west will remain in place unless a certain percentage, I believe, um twenty percent or more of the low growth vegetation or a seventy-five foot strip or more of uh the vegetation between the school and this property is removed, in which case it will have a fence that is um similar in construction to the street facing fence.

So that's pretty much the only changes.

So based on the comprehensive plan, the location of the property and the surrounding land uses, staff recommends that PUD dash zero zero two five five zero dash two zero two five and B A Z dash zero zero two three seven four dash two zero two five be approved, and that PUD one ninety-three on this property be abrogated.

Thank you.

Any questions, McKenzie or staff?

Mindy, I know you brought that up.

You weren't for the thing.

So I was quite concerned about that with the fence facing Gary.

So I've went out there on a Sunday and I called Jose on it.

Because so my after walking the area and not getting on the applicant's property, but walking the area.

And it looks like what's on there right now is applicant here.

Hey.

Can you come down here?

I appreciate all that you the packet that you worked with staff and provided us.

That was pretty long.

Right here with my state on this.

State your name for the right time.

I'm Doug Burgess, owner of D and B.

Okay.

So it looks like right now what's on it is like is it like gas pipes or what's on that property right now?

The the fence on Gary.

No, the materials on the materials on the property.

It's just typical metal panel, like like a like you're gonna make a uh a metal building.

Okay, it's it's it's just panels like that.

So what my concern was I walked because part of it's like cleared that goes where that wooded area is.

I walked to see where the fence was that was falling down or whatever, however it was stated in the the last packet.

Uh do you remember what the wording was?

Okay.

Anyway, I walked it quite a bit and I couldn't find a fence.

So I didn't want to get on your property.

It's an eight-foot tall white.

Well, I thought we're coming down too.

We're talking about two different ones that are.

So the western.

Yeah, along Gary, that's gonna be the white metal panel.

Yeah, that's what I talked to and I said.

Yeah, you know, if they keep if they keep that fence that's there, and my understanding is you're just going to move it back.

Um that was the first thing that we redesigned the fence.

You redesigned it.

And I really like that design.

Excuse me.

I really like your new design of that fence.

Yeah, completely tear that fence out and put a put a nice one in, but we have to yeah, move it back from the five.

Move it back.

Yeah.

So my concern is basically for you is one with the school being there.

Granted, they have a fence there.

But they also have children that are kind of rambunctious and wonderful blessings.

And if they run and get on your property, like I don't want them getting hurt on your property.

I feel you would feel bad if one of them got hurt.

And they could go real easy through those bushes.

Yeah, that that fence is dilapidated.

It is from yesteryear, it's not much of a fence.

Right.

And with us building the amphitheater there.

What you put there on your property.

Let me step.

Um people aren't always nice with taking things that aren't theirs.

So I would have to have a super huge piece of equipment to pick up anything.

Whoa.

This steel is 60 feet long.

Yeah.

It's you can't pick it up.

But you can't.

I'll put a fence there, whatever you guys tell me to do.

I was gonna say where the head is.

Even if it's like a what like a six-foot chain link fence.

I just feel something secure.

Yeah.

Something would be and you don't have to tear up the vegetation, just put it in right along where the vegetation is, because you're not using that anyways.

Sure.

Yeah, so I wouldn't want you to like spend the extra money clearing.

It has to be it has to be cleared.

That that property is just uninhabited for years and years and years.

It is.

But I was like, oh my gosh.

I could see all the red flags and my mama heart of a kid running.

I'll put whatever kind of thing is.

Okay.

We'll do it.

All right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, everything else I was like, I was really nice.

I sent Jose pictures, I was I was impressed.

So for clarity, are you just asking for a fence along the west side or on the whole property?

Yeah, no, yeah.

I like the changes that they've included.

And they worked with staff.

I greatly appreciate it.

Yeah, yeah.

So I might as well just be able to do that.

I was impressed it matched, it matched your neighbors across the street.

Right.

That's why I was like, that's me.

That's me also.

Oh, okay.

Well, you did a good job.

So but yeah.

Okay.

That one fence.

But that fence was okay.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm okay if you want to keep that.

We had to redesign the floor.

Well, I think there was some discussion along Gary was to maybe replace the white paneled fence.

But with the, you know, you got your C channel and stuff that you got up there and stuff.

But it does match your other property on the south side.

Right.

And really the landscape, it looks pretty nice.

It really does look like the landscape in your so I I'd hate to see you have to take that out if you're gonna have to take it out.

Well, I did all that you know, uh ahead of all this because I saw this.

And I think if the wording would have been different in the first packet, I probably would have been okay with the the front fence.

The front fence than the south fence.

Yeah.

I'm just afraid if you have to take out the par portion on this property here, this the north side of Gary Street, then it's gonna kind of look hodgebodge if it looks so much different than what you have on the south side, if that makes sense.

Yes, on both sides of the fence.

I can make a uniform, I can make it look great.

Yeah, you know, whatever I do on on this property, I'll do it on the other property if you want.

See, I think what I I guess you weren't here the last time, but a lot of the discussion was about in the future when the amphitheater gets going, people going in and out that way in the school, stuff like that.

That's why I'm trying to be in compliance now.

Right, yeah, yeah.

We appreciate that.

Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that.

But I want to make sure we're clear on that because I know the last time we talked about for the fence that's going on the west side run north and south.

Uh it's all tangled up in the debris, the vegetation that are out there.

And to actually clean it up, you'd have to remove a lot of the vegetation, maybe even grade a little bit to the nice fence.

Is that still what you're asking for though?

Yeah, so so let me clarify what she's asking.

She's fine with the fence that's there, just push back if that's the way you would like to go.

Or you can go with your new redesigned fence, which is lovely.

Okay.

But please install a chain link fence on the west side that's six feet tall.

No problem at all.

What she's asking.

How tall?

Six foot, okay.

Okay.

And that's good with uh city.

Okay.

Yes.

Does that sound fair?

Of course, yes.

Okay.

That's fine, yeah.

I'm trying, I'm trying to be nice.

Well, you and and and you are.

So for from for me to be clear, I can put the same kind of fence up on the south side as I have across the street.

Yes, yes.

But I have to be I have to move it back.

Move it back, yes.

Right.

Okay.

So that can be a good thing.

And we'll do that on the chain link fence on the west side.

Yeah, just to protect you and so by code we're considering it too close to Gary Street then.

Is that what we we decided?

Is that where that came from?

It is.

Yeah, sure.

Okay.

Okay.

So landscape.

Landscaping you're gonna leave it so there right now.

I know they're small bushes, but you just really are dead.

They'll be replaced and I don't have to do irrigation.

I understand.

The wood fence that you have on that other property.

That's nice.

It's a nice fence.

I was impressed.

I like fences.

We're just trying, we're just trying to do what you guys want us to do.

Yeah.

Because this is a PUD.

Do we want to lock them into a chain link on the west side, or do we want to say a six-foot high fence that's in compliance with broken arrow ordinance?

Chain link fence is simple.

Yeah, none of them.

I just if you went down the road and decided you want a wooden privacy fence, it didn't I that's why I was only bringing it up because a PUD once it's in there, that's the way it's gotta stay forever.

That's a good point.

Yeah, if the owner of that of that that other lot I'm okay with.

Completely clears that lot, then I have to have a solid fence.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's why I just wanted to call that out.

Okay.

So let's that was just a throw out there type.

Let's we could say opaque fence, and then he could make the chain link opaque at a later time.

Yeah, that's true.

Just maybe maybe a wooden privacy fence then.

Yeah, then yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I I personally don't care as long as it's six feet high.

Kids can't get in.

So that's it.

But if it's chain link or or privacy, uh I would like you to be able to have that ability to choose.

Even if you're okay right now, ten years from now, you might be like, ah, I really need a privacy fence.

Well, in the event that the owners of that other lot completely clears their lot, yeah.

I have to put a solid fence up.

Right, right.

Or they're for visual.

Correct.

Right.

I didn't do it now.

Yeah.

Yeah, I didn't want to lock you into a chain link and then also like not cost you spend a whole bunch of money to it's okay.

I'll I'll do that.

I was interested in the uh all the soil things.

I was like, oh, this is kind of cool.

Okay.

So okay.

Okay, so you know how to make this motion, Jill.

Yes, I can make the motion, but um, well, first we need to see if anybody had maybe she's not in agreement with you.

Maybe she doesn't want to.

I know I mean, well, I just need a clarification, McKenzie, on what you were saying about the 20% again.

Can you go back and what you were saying on the other hand?

20% out of it because he's putting the fence.

Let me hear how what how you had said that a second ago.

Okay.

So it was in the staff report as um let me actually get it pulled up.

Uh 20% of low growth, so shrubbery, that kind of stuff.

Um, or 75 feet in width of full um I guess de-vegetation clearing.

And that was for the west side?

Yes.

Okay.

So is that still gonna be applicable with the m what the fence is?

No, because they're gonna put a fence up.

So that will be.

I always say that because in case you were saying staff recommendation stuff, I just want to make sure I was clear on that.

I I appreciate you, you know, stating that I could put up a chain link fence, because that's really the cheapest way to go.

Right.

But again, if I have to come back in two or three years and put a solid one up, I might as well do it now.

Yeah.

I just wanted to make sure you had that choice.

I appreciate it.

So whoever has the property in the future has that choice.

So correct.

Actually, it's written up as a P if it's written up in the PUD for the chain link fence, you could keep it at chain link fence, and when somebody comes in with a property adjacent to it, you can make them put in the privacy fence if you wanted to, correct?

So you could stick with your chain link and not have to go to the edge of that expense.

Which may be years before that ever occurs.

So you could write up that way, correct, Jose?

That'd be my recommendation.

Do it that way.

And I'm sorry, did we have anybody that wanted to speak on this?

No.

I'm assuming not.

I think Jay Lee's putting a motion together.

You finish with me.

I think so.

I think so.

Appreciate it.

Thank you for your time, sir.

We don't try to make this hard on you.

It's just sometimes it ends up that way.

So this hopefully it will put you back on track to stay on your f February third date that y'all are trying to get to.

Okay.

Okay.

Are we ready?

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

I make a motion.

That we approve per stack rep staff recommendation, along with the uh applicant installing a six-foot fence on the west perimeter that can be either opaque if the owner chooses, but at least a chain link fence and the north.

No, sorry, the south fence can either be the new designed fence that was submitted, or can keep the existing fence but pushed back to the north as outline the staff recommendation.

There you go.

I'll second the motion.

So is that good for you?

You have two either or on both sides then?

And we're clear with that, McKenzie.

Yes.

All right.

Have a motion, second, have roll call vote.

Mindy Payne.

Yes.

Jonathan Townsend?

Yes.

Jlumpa?

Yes.

Jason Cohen?

Yes.

Robert Gorenson.

Yes, and that'll go before the city council February 3rd, right here.

Yay.

Got it.

Next item on your agenda.

Item number four, consent agenda.

Do we have any items that excuse me?

Any items that need to be pulled from the consent agenda?

Staff have any?

Planning commission.

I guess ready for a motion.

I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda items for staff recommendations.

I'll second.

And most second, a real call vote.

Yes.

J.

Lempa.

Yes.

Jason Cohen.

Yes.

Robert Gorin's in.

Yes.

And none of those will go before the city council.

So that was items 4A through 4F.

Next item is item 5, items pulled.

We have none.

So item 6, public hearings, 6A.

26-189.

Yes, this is public hearing consideration and possible action regarding PUD 002519-2025.33 acres.

Commercial heavy located north of Tucson Street and approximately one quarter mile one quarter mile east of Olive Avenue.

PUD 002519-2025 is a menu major amendment to PUD 307.

This property is located north of Tucson and one quarter mile east of Olive.

The land is currently unplugged.

A rezoning case needs to be associated with this planned unit development request as it includes all altering the underlying zoning.

So the recommendation is based upon the needing for a rezoning case to be considered with the pre PUD request.

Staff recommends that PUD-002519-2025 be tabled until the 20 until the February 26, 2026 meeting of the broken arrow planning commission.

All right, sounds good, Jose.

So there's nothing that you want us to bring up.

You're ready for us to just make a motion to table it, right?

Same with the applicant.

Ask if anybody signed up.

Did anybody sign up speaking?

Or the applicants not here on the code.

I wasn't going to let them talk anyway.

They can wait to make it.

Okay, that's fine.

Please brought it out.

But it was after the meeting already started.

Well, okay.

I'll tell you what.

We're not I'm not gonna open that up since number one it was late.

Number two, we're not gonna open up for discussion.

We'll just move it to February 26th because we don't know what any changes might happen between now and then.

So we're ready for motion.

I'll make a motion to table item 6A 26-189 per staff recommendations.

Second.

And that was a motion for February 26th.

February 26th.

Okay.

Have motion, second have roll call vote.

Mindy Payne.

Yes.

Jonathan Townsend?

Yes.

Jayley Clempa.

Yes.

Jason Cohen.

Yes.

Robert Gorenson.

Yes.

Next item on the agenda is item 6B 26-183.

Yes.

This is public hearing consideration and possible action regarding PUD 002592-2025.

Planned unit development for JCP expansion, 0.64 acres.

Commercial General, located approximately just south of Washington Street and just west of Aspen.

Major amendment to PUD 50.

PUD-002592 2025 is a major amendment to PUD PUD50 on 0.64 acres, which is currently platted as lot seven block one of the Brentwood Center edition.

This property is located just south of Washington Street and just west of Aspen.

This amendment is intended to fill facilitate site plan approval of an expansion into of an expansion to an existing building on site.

During the site plan review process, a parking requirement of one parking space per 200 square feet of building space was identified.

This would have required 29 spark 29 parking spaces for the existing building and proposed expansion.

However, the site can only accommodate 12.

Parking requirements under current current code require office, business, or professional uses to have one parking space for 350 square feet, which would require the existing building and proposed expansion to have 17 spaces.

The applicant was not able to submit a development outline detailing the changes before the publishing of this agenda.

And for that reason, um staff recommends PUD uh 002592-2025 be continued to the February 12, 2026 meeting of the broken airplaning commission.

Okay, is it the same thing, Jose?

You'd rather not bring it open up and bring anything in or wait to just move table or continue it to the next meeting?

Yes, sir.

Okay.

Did we have anybody sign up to speak on this one?

No, don't move it.

So any discussion ready for a motion.

Can I make a motion to continue to the February 12th, 2026 meeting per staff recommendation?

Second.

Have a motion second, have a roll call vote.

Mindy Payne?

Yes.

Jonathan Townsend?

Yes.

Jaley Clempa.

Yes.

Jason Cohen?

Yes.

Robert Gorenson.

Yes.

Item number seven appeals.

We have none.

Item number eight, general commission business, we have none.

Item number nine, any remarks, inquiries by staff or finding commission?

None from staff.

I want to say thank you so much, Jose, for helping me with that.

Of course, yeah.

No problem at all.

Any time always we're always here to help, you know, all of you all as well, just as much as our applicants.

Yes.

It was I sent him pictures and it was very nice and sweet.

He was very helpful with for me in December.

So yes.

Well, sometimes we need a little help, and we don't mind you helping us out.

Yeah, of course.

Remember, five years.

Yeah, yeah.

Eight months now or nine months, I think, pretty soon.

You know, you too, Missy.

Yeah.

Five year plan.

Yeah, but I'm curious.

I just want to say that I hope everybody's safe this weekend.

Please bring your dogs in, your cats in.

And if you're like my family, your squirrel.

And lizards.

So lizards.

Chicken square.

So uh just want to make sure everybody's safe.

Have your faucets dripping, that kind of thing.

So it will be cold.

Yeah, yes.

Spoken like a true head of maintenance for a large school facility.

Yeah, thanks, Jonathan.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jonathan, you have anything?

You have anything?

Make a motion to adjourn.

So I can have motion second have roll call vote.

You were going to do that.

Mindy Payne.

Yes.

Jonathan Townsend.

Yes.

Jayley Clempa.

No.

J'ai Robert Gornson.

Yes.

And it's going to be outvoted, so what does it matter?

It was funny because I was going to say I was going to abstain just because you said that.

Well, you can't do that.

I was like, ah, I'm not going to mess it up.

She already did that.

Thank you everyone.