Broken Arrow Drainage Advisory Committee Meeting - February 23, 2026
STREAMING COPY IN PREPARATION — RECORDING AVAILABLE FROM THE ORIGINAL SOURCE
There's not a evenings.
Every one of them.
What was the plan?
You couldn't even short make sure it's got one over here.
It doesn't matter.
Make sure I don't do anything here.
We need to put some signs back there.
Is that right?
Huh?
I'm not I was so aggravated.
I was so aggravated.
When you put an agenda together and you put by request or why you on item A.
The first first thing in the chair jumps down to the last thing first.
And then the next to the last thing.
Oh my.
I was chewing my tongue off today a lot.
It's one of those days.
Nobody got hurt.
Nobody died.
It was fine.
All right.
In other words, follow the order.
That's right.
We'll be doing that.
Good evening, everybody.
Welcome to the February 23rd meeting of the Broken Arrow drainage advisory committee.
Call to order.
Uh roll call, please.
Hicks here.
Hamilton.
Wallace?
Here.
Pickle.
Here.
Parks.
Here.
Mason.
Here.
Hendricks.
Here.
Item number three.
Consideration of consent agenda.
I make a motion to approve the consent agenda.
I'll second that motion.
I like to say it's getting all that money back.
Yeah.
She usually might come up with new plans.
Absolutely.
Roll call, please.
Hicks.
Yes.
Okay.
Wallace?
Yes.
Mason, yes.
Hendrix.
Pinkle.
Yes.
Parks.
Yes.
Hendrix.
Yes.
There are no items to be considered from uh the consent removed from the consent agenda.
Item five, presentations.
Do we have presentations?
Okay.
Moving down to item six, general committee business.
Item A, 26191.
Consideration discussion and possible action to recommend to council to reject the applicant's request to expend funds for drainage improvements in the West Wind subdivision case number 2600 one.
You need to reintroduce yourself.
I'll go ahead and do that.
I look a little bit different tonight.
A little bit longer on the facial hair, and I've got glasses tonight.
So I'll go ahead, I'll reintroduce myself.
Okay.
So good evening, Chair, Vice Chair, members.
I'm Patrick Wilson, the stormwater division manager for the engineering and construction department for the city broken arrow.
If you could go ahead and did you get the on SharePoint site, did you get those?
Give me just one moment.
I also put them on a flash drive.
So a few technical get difficulties.
We'll get this uh pulled up in just a second.
Jump on the left.
26191.
Yeah.
Okay, here we go.
Now we'll get going with the presentation that we've got before you on this item.
This item is located in the west wind subdivision.
Um there are two items in the west wind subdivision tonight, so just so there's not a point of confusion.
One is on the east side of the subdivision, one is on the west side of the subdivision.
They're actually slightly, or they're actually not related at all as to the way that the drainage is concerned on this.
The one on the far west side does eventually drain through over into the same tributary that the one on the east side does, but they meet downstream.
So I just wanted a little clarification on that.
So that excuse me, that the members do understand there's two up there, but these are two separate instances.
So just for a location, you can see that it is uh south of Albany, which is 61st, and it is east of 9th Street, Lynn Lane, but west of the Broken Arrow High School.
So the applicant the uh that submitted this, that is the property that's about the location they're asking for a request for help on.
Um zoom in of this to let you know that this west wind was platted in 1982, prior to any of the design criteria.
So the design criteria for the city broken arrows started in 1994.
The current that we have is actually 2002, but the basis of our design criteria started in 94.
In 92, the applicant did construct this house in 2001.
The Charleston one that you see up there was platted and started construction.
The four houses that you can see I'm pointing to here, and I will point to the screen for the audience.
These four houses here, that was originally a detention pond.
And what happened was the developer came through with Charleston II, and then the replat of Charleston II asked if they could take to the constructed regional detention pond on the north side of Albany, north of the high school.
That pond there is a regional detention pond.
And the city looked at the worked with them and did allow that to happen.
There is an overland drainage easement between those two subdivisions to allow the water to flow through.
And again, for the audience, I will see it on both sides so that you could look at it.
That so that the water could flow into that the water could flow.
I'll try to do my best.
That the water flows along the two subdivisions, flows out into where you could see that greenish line.
That is a storm sewer that outlets into a swell and into going north.
Uh, if you could go to the next slide, please.
What we see here is pictures from the 25 uh spring rains.
We had record rainfall event last spring, and these pictures are what was shown to us.
You could see the flooding in the yard.
You can also see that it did get up to eight inches.
That's the debris line is what she's showing.
That was come to us.
Now, I don't know the year, but several years ago the city worked with the homeowner prior to my time with the city, and they helped and did put in a storm sewer system with a domed inlet in the backyard.
When I mean that's exactly what I mean, it's domed and open.
It does allow more debris to flow through.
And with that, once it was done, that system was turned over to the property owner to be a private system and to for property for maintenance and ownership of that system.
The applicant also said there was a potential that the water is coming in from the cul-de-sac that is to the west of it.
We did some research.
Now, some of the homes, I'll go back a couple.
Some of the homes in the backyards, yes, uh that could go into the subdivision.
Go into her yard, some of these backyards, there is that possibility.
But the water from the cul de sac itself, based on pictures and based on what we've seen and observed out there, that water it would have to go up the driveway, uphill, in through the driveway, down into the yard.
So we don't see that from the pavement itself that it's actually getting into the uh neighbor's yard.
So as we've looked at this, this Adams this area does drain to Adams Creek, as you can see, that's a tributary to Adams Creek.
Um the applicant, they asked the city for help in mitigating stormwater runoff.
City staff could not identify a public benefit to recommend expenditure of the proposition six 2018 geobond funds.
Therefore, staff recommends the drainage advisory committee recommend rejecting the applicant's request to expend funds for the drainage improvements in the Westwind subdivision.
I'd be happy to answer any questions.
The only question I have is almost irrelevant if there's no public benefit.
Um I don't see any lawful way to be able to expend these funds, but my question is you had indicated that they put in a draw a domed drainage.
Correct.
Yes.
Is it working?
From my understanding, what the applicant has said is that it does get clogged and that the inlet itself, the dome, and that they do have to go out and clean it repeatedly, which is part of the system.
Any if it was the end that was flat or domed, they would still have to perform that maintenance.
Okay.
Okay.
So there's not any runoff to any to ride any of the uh yards or easements or anything away that that we have anything in.
Is that correct?
That uh correct.
That this there's an overland drainage easement in that area, but there is nothing in there that it seems to be affecting any any public utilities or any other infrastructure.
That said, I'll entertain a motion.
I'll I'll motion that we um reject the request for case number 26-001 as presented by Patrick and his team.
I'll second.
Motion and a second, any discussion?
Roll call, please.
Yes.
Wallace?
Yes.
PICO.
Yes.
Parks?
Yes.
Mason.
Yes.
Hendricks.
Yes.
Item B 26195 consideration, discussion, and possible action to recommend to City Council to expend funds to design drainage design improvements from 3729 South 195th East Avenue to East 37th Court South.
Case number 26-002.
Good evening again.
I didn't change my appearance between the two presentations this time.
So I think same one.
So a little bit of history.
This has come before the drainage advisory committee before and also went through council, and council did approve.
So back in July of July 29th, 24, this item went to the drainage advisory committee, and that we asked for a total of $35,000 for design.
And it was approved at council on 820 on August 20th of 24.
Since that time, a construct or a contract with the consultant was approved for 42,755.
That exceeds the previous amount that was authorized by the DAC and council by 7,755.
This oversight was caught during that audit that I mentioned to the committee earlier that we were working on doing, the one that I talked about in November.
So this was caught, and for full transparency, we wanted to bring it back to the committee for the additional funds to complete the design.
Now, to let you know where the status is, the status of the design is 98% complete, and the uh utility coordination is going on right.
Just as a general statement, it's green country sanitary sewer in the area.
And so we've got it's a third-party utility, and we're doing coordination with them and Rule Water 4.
So there's some coordination still going on.
But I'll give you a background of what it was just briefly so that you can just to jog your memories of what we did or to inform you of what we did.
Um this is located in the steeple chase subdivision.
As uh I try to use the broken arrow names and also the numbered system so that people can easily identify.
I still think of the number system a lot of times myself.
Um this was platted, it's west of County Line Road, 193rd Avenue.
Um it is platted in 1984 in Wagner County.
So even at that time, Broken Arrow didn't have any design criteria, and Wagner County didn't either.
So this was annexed under Broken Arrow in 2000.
There is no plans that we found.
I did talk to the Wagner County engineer that they have none on record that was there.
So we couldn't find the original design plans.
All this the water does flow into Spunky Creek, so that's some of the unnamed funds that is available in the proposition six bond.
As we do a zoom in on it, that area in blue is what we are looking at right now.
The street is 195th East Avenue, and then the cul-de-sac is East 37th Court South.
What we have out there is the water flows from the cul-de-sac to the street through a concrete ditch.
The applicant originally came to us and asked for help cleaning storm debris.
This is private property.
There's no easement.
There's not there, there's nothing that said this was a public system at all.
And so we've worked with them.
However, there is a public system, it's not shown on here, but but there's a public system that runs north-south along 195th that it ties into.
Um, these are some of the pictures.
The inlet grate, as I said, it that's that's where all the water from that concrete ditch you see in the middle.
One of the things that was really interesting as we did it is that one the inside inlet, that wall is actually bulging.
And that was one of the things to fix the storm sewer system.
It is a private system, but it's also connected straight into a public system.
So the public benefit that we looked at on this one was to design a new underground storm sewer system that to replace the existing deteriorating system and concrete channel to minimize furna future drainage and maintenance concern.
We did talk about putting an easement over the top of this that would allow the city to maintain this in the future.
So when it would go to construction, we would request that easement from the homeowners.
And let's see if I could get the picture in the middle.
That channel is actually split on two separate lots.
Actually, it's about four, because you go from the cul-de-sac all the way to 195th, that's four lots.
So we would request an easement over it so that the city actually has ownership of the pipe and maintenance of the responsibilities of the pipe itself.
So what staff is uh requesting is that the drainage advisory committee recommend to council the approval of an additional funds for the design of the drainage improvements from the existing inlet at 3729 South 195th East Avenue to the west end of East 37th Street Court.
I'd be happy to answer any questions.
I don't have any questions.
Some of the some of the additional funds have been expended.
So, yes, that was the other thing as we went through it.
We did catch it and we brought it to you as quickly as we could.
So we are ratifying retroactively.
Correct.
Okay.
Just being transparent with the public.
It's a good question.
Um I don't have any issues.
Do you have any questions?
I'll entertain a motion.
I'll make a motion to uh recommend to city council to expend those funds as additional funds for design drainage, uh, design improvements on this item.
Second.
We have a motion, a second, any questions, any comment?
Roll call.
Hicks.
Yes.
Wallace?
Yes.
Pickle?
Yes.
Parks.
Yes.
Mason.
Yes.
Hendricks.
Yes.
Item C 26201 consideration, discussion, and possible action to recommend approval to council to expend funds to finalize the plans and for construction funds to reconstruct the weir structure.
Is that right?
Correct.
In the park at Adams Creek Reserve F to mitigate stormwater flows and possibly construct storm sewer improvements on East Seattle Court.
Case number 26003.
So again, this is the other west wind application that I was referring to at the beginning of the meeting.
This one is on the east side, closest to the high school.
Again, it's south of Albany 61st Street, in between 9th Street, Lin Lane, or 193rd County Line Road, just west of the high school for that location.
The area that you see at the bottom where it says wetland area, that is immediately east of the shops at Broken Arrow, and that shops at Broken Arrow that includes Dicks.
That includes Target.
And then you have obviously you can see Lowe's there on the other side.
So to give you the idea of where we're at, now as we look at it, I do want to point out that channel.
We'll go to this one.
That the channel, it is a regulated floodplain, and a regulated floodplain means it's regulated by FEMA, and it is based on the 1% chance event or 100-year event, as is commonly known as, that if it rains, what that every event, every one percent, it has a 1% chance of meeting or exceeding it.
What you see is the width of what the floodplain is delineated as through a stud through a calculated study from FEMA.
So just to give you a little idea about it, I've got another picture to zoom in about where the applicant is so you can see what the applicant is referring to on their property.
But I wanted to give an idea just an overview of what I mean by a regulated floodplain.
Is that is the applicant's property?
And you when you mentioned the cul-de-sac earlier in the title, that's the cul-de-sac that we're referring to as well.
I'll get to that in just a little bit.
But the applicant's property, the back part of the property is in a floodway and floodplain.
So the floodway, basic, just think of that's the main part of the channel.
The floodplain is when everything goes outside of it.
There's some more technical in that, but that that's a basic on it.
That little bit of orange that you see is the 2%, or I mean the point two percent, or commonly known as the 500-year event.
The line in the middle where it says tributary to Adams Creek, that is a blue line stream, and what that blue line means is that it is governed by the United States Army Corps of Engineers.
So that any work in that channel would, besides some routine maintenance, would have to actually get a permit from the Corps of Engineers from the federal government.
Depending on work done in the floodplain, would have to go through the city of Broken Arrow for floodplain development permit, and also through FEMA, depending on the work that is done.
So the applicant's house, as you can see, a good portion of the backyard is in that 1% floodplain.
So a little bit of history because on the application, it had that the applicant has lived there for 40 years.
The last three years has been the worst flooding that she's seen.
Last year, I would agree with her completely because we had record rainfall events.
The previous years, well, we can look at it, but there was a lot of rain last spring.
What you see on the left, the 2002, that's before everything got developed.
I mean, the only thing out there is lows.
So even the other subdivision that you could see on the right screen in the 2025, that wasn't there in 2002.
Earlier I made a comment that our first drainage requirements were not done, were not instituted until 1994 in an ordinance.
That was a very basic rudimentary what we had.
Our detention and our fee in lieu of detention program did not start until 2002 per ordinance.
So around 2029, the city worked with the owners of the land for Dicks, the target, that area, and asked if we could coordinate about making improvements in the wetland area, and I'll point to that.
That's a wetland area.
And for the audience, that's the wetland area.
And we worked with them, and a regional detention pond was constructed.
Now that regional detention pond is a city owned facility, and the city actually owns that green belt from the subdivision down to the expressway.
So the city owns this all the way down to the Broken Arrow Expressway.
So that area right there.
Since the development and since 2002, development along Hillside has greatly increased.
And there's an existing wetland.
We there was a detention pond, so that detention pond was to mitigate that flow.
Staff has reviewed the outfall structure, and we are concerned that it may not currently be functioning as it was designed or attended.
So there's a possibility that there could be some additional water.
What we have done, there is some plans in place that we there it says to finalize.
I'd say they're 95, 98% set.
We've got to do some tweaking on it, making sure things are good.
And finalize those plans, and then we would like to take those to construction.
So there are a few pictures.
Uh the applicant did send quite a few pictures over.
I picked a couple of them that looked like they were representative of the whole.
So the ones that you see there were more in the packet that you guys did.
Every single picture that the applicant sent is in the packet that you guys had received.
So as you can see, that's water in the creek just flowing behind the house.
Excuse me.
And that is what you see on there.
That's tree roots exposed, and that's from the erosion of the high water that as the creek goes through there through the floodplain.
This, I told you I'd get back to the cul-de-sac.
This is a picture that the applicant took of the cul-de-sac, and there's standing water on top of an inlet.
Well, something's not quite right there.
So one of the things that we are asking with this money is to do it.
We'll do an investigation to see how we can help excuse me, how we can help mitigate this system appropriately.
So again, as we look at this, it's not directly on the applicant's property that we're looking at doing work.
Um I would like to back up just a moment and say some of the things the city has done.
That area that I said the city owns, and let me get a better picture.
So the area that too far.
Well, I told I didn't I don't know if I told you that green outline, the city actually owns that green outline.
So I told you that we owned two up to the subdivision.
Well, we also own a strip that goes all the way that up to 61st or Albany.
And some of the things that we've done is coordinated and we have cleaned that channel out once in a while.
And last summer I talking with the applicant, um, she made a statement that the culvert underneath 61st was getting partially folded.
Filled.
And so I did look at that and I asked our streets and stormwater department, they did go out and make the cleaning at that time.
So that's just something that we have to keep a look at out on our culverts as a general, and that is something that our streets and stormwater department does do on a regular basis on the culverts is to go and make sure that they are clean and can pass the thr flow to help mitigate from backing up onto people's property.
But as what this request is to help with that cul-de-sac area, and then also for construction funds to redo the outlet structure of the pond.
And as we look at it, we do believe this will be a more efficient and help mitigate the flow as it goes downstream and help reduce some of that peak flow that could be getting to that property at that time.
So that that's the as long-winded as saying that the public benefit is to reduce the peak flow of several of the downstream property owners in the West Wind subdivision, and also at um East Reno Street and at 61st, just for the overtopping to keep that from happening.
And staff recommends that the drainage advisory committee recommends to city council the expenditure of funds to finalize the plans and reconstruct the wear structure at the park at Adams Creek Reserve F to mitigate stormwater flows and possible construct storm sewer improvements on East Seattle Court.
I'd be happy to answer any questions.
Patrick, that um the one that you have that shows 2002 and 2000 and current.
I I would assume that part of the issue is that there has been so much buildup uh around there that what was previously green land doesn't have the opportunity to even absorb some of the water runoff of stormwater from just the infrastructure build around there.
Well, the stormwater that is the what I told you is a wetland is actually a federally restricted wetland as well.
Right.
But for so, for example, where the where the big shopping center is now currently built.
Right here?
There, as compared to 2002, where there's nothing.
So I'm assuming that part of just I mean, you get a lot more water runoff with structures than you do when you have land that can absorb that.
Just as a general correct, yeah.
That is why that we did partner with the uh developer and owner at the time and make that a regional facility for that detention.
Got it.
Okay.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
If I may, madam chair.
So the developer of the target area, the olive garden, Dix, all of that.
The developer owned that property and constructed the detention weir structure on the very north end, right before it leaves their property and goes back into the subdivision.
Um eight years later, the city working with them worked out an arrangement where we took over the ownership of the pond behind Dix.
That's really the detention and the wetlands.
Um through that, we do question whether the outlet structure which detains the water is functioning properly.
So Pat was talking about it.
We actually started the uh redesign, if you will, on something that we thought would be more efficient.
So that's what he's presenting to you is um the cost to complete that redesign.
It never was was finished, but we actually do believe that we can make it more efficient, along with what you just said, maybe looking downstream, making sure that we don't have any blockages.
It's one thing to hold water back upstream, but if I'm also not clear on the flow downstream, now I've got two pinch points.
Smart.
Are you confident because you're asking for two different things?
You're asking for plans and for construction funds.
Are you well the plans are I'd say roughly 95% complete, and we'd finish them in-house.
So the original plans was done by an in-house engineer, so we would finish those in-house.
Okay, so the majority of this is for construction.
Correct.
Um other questions.
Uh Janice Greco.
I don't know.
Would you come forward to the microphone, please?
I can tell you that.
Thanks.
You're welcome.
Gosh.
Hi, yes, I'm Janice Greco Lucina, and next week will be 40 years since I've lived moved into that house, and I love that house, and I get very emotional about it because it's my pride and joy, as you know, and everybody else here who's been to my house now.
Anyway, um, I just want to um say a few things about the history.
I know I know that's the one percent flood zone, but uh the hundred year, but I can probably tell you three or four times that we've hit that mark at according to how I've lived there.
And about 2005 in May, there was some kind of a big rain.
My neighbor there came up to my door at three in the morning and said, You better move your car because it was all the way up against the garage, and the the truck we had in where you showed that picture with that where the cul-de-sac was, the water came up to the steering wheel inside the truck.
And that was before all of that was even built.
So that's kind of the history.
The other part of the history was that it was always because they couldn't do anything further downstream because of the beaver dams and the beavers were I don't know, an endangered species or whatever, and so my house, so everything's gonna flood because of the beavers.
Well, I don't know if that's a thing anymore.
Oh, it is.
It is okay.
So we're gonna have to go out and shoot the beavers then and get no.
But anyway, that's that's a thing too.
So that's a thing too.
So anyway, that's the history um going back.
So the problems now, as Mr.
Wilson said, the creek.
Well, I went out and measured using my feet, and um the water has come up almost to my back fence and my neighbors' back fence, and that's pretty close to anywhere between 70 and 100 feet, depending on whose property line it is.
And that's that's that's measuring by one foot is a foot, you know.
So that's pretty far up.
Um and the the erosion is as you saw with the pictures of those roots.
That used to be completely cut.
That tree, George Washington built it.
I don't know.
It's been there forever.
And those roots used to be, you know, my kids grew up there.
I had a bank.
I used my my main thing right now is that there's no bank there.
The bank is gone.
My neighbors have a bank, my other neighbor has a bank, I have part of a bank, and then it just slopes down to to that level.
And what happens is when that rain comes pouring down, it's got an opening now, and that opening just opens it up to our backyards.
So that is my concern.
Um then the retaining ponds, which you mentioned, and the debris under there.
So I know that I think I don't know if it was you who explained it to me or somebody else, that those two retaining ponds on the north side of 61st Street, they got so full that they overflowed 61st Street by the high school.
So that's all coming back this way, and now they're building a shopping center at the corner of County Line and 61st, and that's just gonna take away more natural drainage, like you mentioned, and I mean, we're just getting hit from every side.
I know broken hours expanding and and all that, and that's wonderful, but I'm only concerned about my little part there, and um I don't know if we need another retention pond up there.
From what I understand, that pond then goes back to the Arkansas River from there.
There's some kind of a end up draining to the vertebrae.
To the Vertigree River, okay.
That's so I don't I don't know.
I just um the guys came out last year and they kind of cleaned out some of the trees and they said they were gonna leave this fine little mulch, but the big pieces of mulch were like this big, and so the first time it rained just gobs and gobs of mulch this big went went right down in there and just probably jammed up somewhere down there.
So I think you have the you know the basic reason why I'm here and why I'm so concerned.
Every time there's a rain, I wind up.
I mean I'm 70, I'm gonna be 71.
I'm the one out there raking this stuff up, bagging this stuff up, bringing it to the curve, and I really try do my best to try to keep that area as clean as I possibly can, but I just need some help there.
My major concern is eventually I'm gonna sell that house.
I'm gonna have to move away from that house.
And I don't know when the prospective buyers come and they say, So does this creek flood at all?
And you can't lie, you have to you have to tell the truth, and you've got to put it on disclosure.
I can't just say, no, that's dry as dry as can be here.
So that's my concern because I'm sure that's coming up in my f in my future soon, and I just want to be able to sell the property when the time comes my house when the time comes and feel good about selling it to somebody, not leaving them with a problem that I've dealt with, my ex-husband and I have dealt with for a long long time.
So I think I think you all got the idea.
So anyway, um, I don't know if you have any questions for me.
You'd already go back to my seat.
What do I do?
No.
Thank you for coming.
Okay.
Thank you all for listening.
I really appreciate it.
Sam.
Any other questions?
I'll entertain a motion.
I'll make a motion that we approve uh item 26201, which is case number 26-003.
I'll second the motion and a second.
Any further discussion?
Roll call.
Hicks.
Yes.
Wallace?
Yes.
Pickle?
Yes.
Parks.
Yes.
Mason?
Yes.
Hendricks.
Yes.
Item D 26295.
Consideration, discussion, and possible action to recommend to City Council to reallocate funds from design to construction funds for drainage improvements in the South Fork Estate subdivision.
Case number 2600.
Excuse me.
So as you heard in the title, it says to reallocate funds.
So that means that there were funds allocated initially.
This project was originally brought to the drainage advisory committee on April 23rd, 2025, and City Council approved the allocation on July 14th, 2025 for design funds.
So that's what we're looking to change it from design to construction.
And I'll give you a little bit of a background as to what was presented in April of uh 25.
Oops, too far.
So originally this came before the drainage advisory committee because this um there was a lot, there's a lot going on with this project right here.
On April 15th, 2025, some citizens approached council that there was some drainage concerns due to the Spring Creek crossing development.
That's a brand new development that's is what you see up there.
Um another slide you'll see that it's actually a more updated that there's some clearing.
There's not a current picture that we was able to use, but that's a new development going in.
Excuse me, right now the trees are cleared.
The roads are in, they're getting ready to go vertical.
So they're working on that aspect of it of putting the houses in.
So the citizens brought the drainage and sediment concerns to council.
So the sediment concerns, there was sediment leaving the site, and that was treated as a code enforcement item through the engineering and construction department.
So we handled that as a code enforcement item.
The drainage, it was discussed, and it was then we looked at it and brought this before the committee here, and that's what I'm gonna look at a little bit.
This area, as you can see, it's north of Tucson, it's 121st.
Um that's um Ernest Childers Middle School on the south side, the creek turnpike on the north side, and it's in between Elm and 9th Street.
Um, 9th is also Lynn Lane.
So just to give you an idea of where this is in the world.
All of this does flow into Broken Arrow Creek.
The original picture, this is a concept that was brought to the committee of that area that is uh circled in uh the red.
We were looking at collecting the water the stormwater in that area, that area to the left of the lot lines, which is South Fork Estates, is actually it's all in a reserve.
We're gonna look at collecting it and tie it into that stormwater drainage system that is there in the street.
Many things have happened since then.
That is not the path that was going that was chosen.
Um the existing drainage area into South Fork was five acres.
They reduced it down to through to two acres, and that's just brief history here.
They 2.2.
The water did flow through South Fork Acres.
That's the actual flow path of the original flow path.
What was done, and this is what the designer of South Fork, uh, their original designer engineer has come up with.
What I'll tell you a little bit on that, the owner and the design engineer, they paid for this.
So that's the reason we're looking to do a reallocation is that they said we need to do this, we need to partner, we need to work together, try to find a solution.
They went ahead and paid for the design.
The design they've got is still to collect the water in the reserve, take it north to OTA, Oklahoma uh Turnpike Authority, and put it out into it.
It's still on the owner's property, it's not on an OTA's property, but it will add a little bit extra onto OTA.
So they still are working in coordinating with OTA on that.
Um, with this, I do know that city staff that they met with all the parties involved from the properties to the South Fork Estates residents to the property owner that is the developer and the engineer.
The meeting was last week.
They're still working out the details, but as we attempt to move all of this forward, what staff is requesting is that the $25,000 that was allocated for the design is that we allocate that for the construction to partner with them to alleviate this.
The public benefit that we have seen is to address that pre-existing condition from night prior to the 94 ordinance that has the water flowing through the house, and that is the public benefit is to address that pre-existing condition.
I'd be happy to answer any questions.
Was there an agreement on the uh trees to be removed?
So we had a very good meeting with uh the property owners, which are uh one of them's here present, appreciate that.
Uh in South Fork, as well as the property owner of Spring Creek.
Um bottom line is I think the recommendation was to draft some correspondence and agreement, but move forward with moving the monies from design to construction.
Um I think there's still a few things to work out, but for the most part, I felt it was very productive and very positive on all parties.
This is something that we've looked at for quite a while to see what we thought would be the best for that.
And certainly the city didn't cause the uh problem.
But the city's stepping in and willing to uh help the problem.
In some ways, this is uh a perfect example of why Prop 6 exists.
Uh as Pat said, South Fork went in in 93, I believe, which predated our 94 criteria.
Uh there's not a detention pond.
Um there's only eight or ten lots in there, it's not a huge subdivision, uh a lot of big uh big lots and big homes, but uh back at that time the runoff is through vegetation trees and high grasses and probably down limbs and stuff.
Um once they clear it, now you're seeing higher runoff, although they have the right to clear the property.
So it it crosses a couple of properties.
One of the property owners, like I said, is here and goes out their drive and into the cul-de-sac.
This is a perfect way of using prop six to pick up that drainage and convey it north uh so it's not bothering and damaging.
It's a nuisance water, not creating problems for people.
So like I said, I the committee has recommended the 25 and council's approved for design, but they've already designed it and would like to apply this towards construction.
We're in support of that.
So we've already approved the expenditure as has council, and we're just asking to use it for a different purpose.
Exactly.
Correct.
Okay.
You said the prop one of the property owners is here.
Yes.
I don't have a form, but if you would like to speak, I'll happily you don't have to, but if you'd like to, you don't have to, but I want to give you an opportunity if you'd like to say something.
Sure.
Maybe compliment the city.
Yeah.
Please state.
We could use it.
Yeah, uh, I'm Jason Langley.
Um I live on uh I have the driveway.
The driveway that driveway.
Uh anyway, uh I I would like to take a quick second to compliment the city.
Um I know for a fact that no one has to do this.
Um it's been very uh fulfilling to see.
Um I've tried really hard to engage in the civic process and show up and not be the one who complains but doesn't show up.
Um and uh I would uh take a minute to compliment uh the entire process because I know it hasn't been uh the easiest and um it's very important for me for it to not seem as a complaint more as a uh opportunity uh for quality of life and um uh Mr.
Schwab and uh everyone involved has been has been great.
So um if it was to be uh uh blessed this evening, it would be a great uh great step forward to resolving everything, moving on and uh I just uh appreciate it.
So thank you for thank you.
Any other questions?
I'll entertain a motion.
I'll make a motion to uh approve case number 26-004.
I'll second it.
We have a motion and a second.
Roll call, please.
Hicks, yes, lawless, yes, pickle, yes, parks, yes, mason, yes, Hendrix, yes.
Item seven, adjourn.
Make a motion to adjourn.
I'll second.
I'm always good for that one.
Any discussion?
Roll call.
May I make a comment real quick?
Yes, sir.
So these items will go to the March 24th council meeting, is that correct?
The second one in March.
Yeah, which is the 24th, it's a different than what we said before.
So anything that was recommended for approval will go to the council on March the 24th.
Roll call, please.
Hicks, yes, Wallace, yes, pickle, yes, parks, yes, mason, yes, Hendrix, yes.
Thank you.
We're adjourned.
Thank you.
Such an efficient meeting.
You're so
Broken Arrow Drainage Advisory Committee Meeting - February 23, 2026
The Broken Arrow Drainage Advisory Committee met on February 23, 2026, to consider several items related to stormwater drainage improvements in various subdivisions. The committee heard staff presentations and public comments, and voted on four agenda items, recommending actions to the City Council.
Consent Calendar
- The consent agenda was approved unanimously.
Public Comments & Testimony
- Janice Greco Lucina (40-year resident of West Wind subdivision) spoke on item C (case 26-003). She described worsening flooding over the years, erosion that has removed the bank, and debris from upstream maintenance. She expressed concern about selling her property in the future due to flooding disclosure. She urged the committee to help.
- Jason Langley (property owner in South Fork Estates) spoke on item D (case 26-004). He complimented the city for its engagement and said the proposed solution would improve quality of life.
Discussion Items
- Item A (Case 26-001): Consideration to reject funds for drainage improvements in West Wind subdivision (east side). Staff presented that the property was built before city drainage criteria, the city had previously installed a domed inlet that was turned over to the homeowner as private maintenance, and no public benefit existed. The committee voted to recommend rejection.
- Item B (Case 26-002): Consideration to approve additional funds for design of drainage improvements from 3729 South 195th East Avenue. Staff explained that $35,000 was previously approved, but the actual contract was $42,755, requiring an additional approval. The design is 98% complete. The committee voted to recommend approval of the additional funds.
- Item C (Case 26-003): Consideration to finalize plans and fund construction of a weir structure at Adams Creek Reserve F and possible storm sewer improvements on East Seattle Court. Staff detailed that the city-owned detention pond may not be functioning as designed, and the work would benefit downstream properties. The committee voted to recommend approval.
- Item D (Case 26-004): Consideration to reallocate $25,000 from design to construction funds for drainage improvements in South Fork Estates. The developer had already paid for the design. Staff and a property owner expressed support. The committee voted to recommend approval.
Key Outcomes
- Motion to reject case 26-001 passed unanimously (6-0).
- Motion to approve case 26-002 (additional design funds) passed unanimously (6-0).
- Motion to approve case 26-003 (weir structure and storm sewer) passed unanimously (6-0).
- Motion to approve case 26-004 (reallocation of funds) passed unanimously (6-0).
- All approved items will be forwarded to the City Council meeting on March 24, 2026.
Meeting Transcript
There's not a evenings. Every one of them. What was the plan? You couldn't even short make sure it's got one over here. It doesn't matter. Make sure I don't do anything here. We need to put some signs back there. Is that right? Huh? I'm not I was so aggravated. I was so aggravated. When you put an agenda together and you put by request or why you on item A. The first first thing in the chair jumps down to the last thing first. And then the next to the last thing. Oh my. I was chewing my tongue off today a lot. It's one of those days. Nobody got hurt. Nobody died. It was fine. All right. In other words, follow the order. That's right. We'll be doing that. Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the February 23rd meeting of the Broken Arrow drainage advisory committee. Call to order. Uh roll call, please. Hicks here. Hamilton. Wallace? Here. Pickle. Here. Parks. Here. Mason. Here. Hendricks. Here. Item number three. Consideration of consent agenda. I make a motion to approve the consent agenda. I'll second that motion. I like to say it's getting all that money back. Yeah. She usually might come up with new plans. Absolutely. Roll call, please. Hicks.
openpublica.com