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General Council Business for a presentation and discussion of the new municipal service building project status.

Charlie Bright.

So just real quick, I want to thank the council members for uh agreeing to hold a special meeting so we could focus specifically on where we are with regard to the new municipal services building.

I want to thank uh counselors Ford and Green for their assistance.

Uh they were designated as the liaison to the governing for the governing body for the committee to actually help staff uh to this point.

And so tonight, really I'm gonna turn it over to Charlie and to Shannon because we want to give you an update and get directions from the council with regard to where we're at.

Charlie.

Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council members, Mr.

Spurgeon.

Name's Charlie Bright, Director of Engineering and Construction.

Um I'm gonna pass it over to Shannon Marshall to do a lot of tonight's speaking.

I just want to give you a lot a little bit of background of the process we've had up until this point and kind of where we stand today.

Um as you guys know, we've talked about it um uh previously a little bit.

We first started with a needs assessment space study of how much space does this building really need.

Um, and we went through that with all the departments, all the directors, a lot of other staff input, kind of zeroed into that 60,000 square foot building based off what the needs were.

And then we took that and started going through a lot of schematics.

We've been through, as this process, it's an iteration, we've been through dozens of iterations of what this can look like, and we feel like we're here today because we've really narrowed it in and we're really really close.

But with that being said, it's still not final.

I think there's still probably a few more tweaks to begun, but we're we feel pretty confident of where we're standing today.

Um so that was the goal is to show you where we are today and get some feedback from you.

I want to point out one thing that we've uh maybe been attention point as we design this has really been what kind of image are we trying to create um as part of a new municipal services building down there on the south side of the bay uh downtown.

Um today, that south side doesn't feel really like a main street.

You know, it's it's it's main street, but it's not the Rose District Main Street feel.

And so one of the design parameters here of this building has been do we design it like it's a suburban city hall where you just pull up and it's convenience everything, or do we design it like a main street city hall?

And so we've really geared towards going towards that main street city hall to where we're trying to create walkability on Main Street itself.

So you see people coming in and out of the front doors on Main Street, you see people in and out walking and everything else, parking is hidden in the back, and the the goal is that this is that trigger point that creates and helps some of the other development where we have a more walkability main street on that side of Main Street as well, and not just in the Rose District itself.

So that kind of helped steer how some of the design parameters went, is keeping that goal in mind of the bigger picture of what we're trying to create there.

Um so with that, I'm gonna pass it over to Shannon.

She's gonna sit over here at the table if that's all right, because she's gonna have control of the mouse so she can zoom in a little bit on the layouts and maybe talk in particular about the floor plans.

Um and she'll take you through the design that we've been working on.

Good evening, everyone.

My name is Shandon Marshall, Special Projects Division Manager with Engineering and Construction, and thank you for your time today to talk about a fantastic project.

This is one of the first projects I got the privilege to work on.

Um and it's been a fantastic project overall, especially with the great team.

I do want to note that our architect design team Narrate is here with us tonight, as well as our construction manager Napoltz.

Both of them have been great partners and have put in a ton of hours already.

So I want to commend them and thank you so much for your time.

So going forward, as he mentioned, we'll start kind of with a high level view.

I would say it would be a freedom eagle, 250 feet in the air, looking down at the site, and we'll kind of dive in as we get closer and closer here.

So I like it.

Currently, as he mentioned, we're looking at relocating the municipal services project to the northeast corner of the intersection of Main Street and Washington.

In these visual diagrams, north is painted up to the screen.

So this is South Main here, and Washington is down at the bottom of the screen.

Looking at this site plan here, as you can see, the building footprint is located at the far corner of the intersection, hoping to address with urban context, the main street and Washington sections over here.

And then we look at connecting to a city property, which is our senior center annex on the north, and another senior pro or another city property, the Arrowhead Sports Complex here on the east.

So looking at a vehicular vehicular transportation through the site.

One could enter on the north here, and we look at develop a boulevard entry along with the existing exit of the senior center annex.

So one a person could enter their vehicle on the north here and come into the shared parking lot, majority being for city hall employees, but with a shared entrance on the north here and over on this side.

Or one can enter off of Washington, which would be shared entry with our Arrowhead Sports Complex and enter the parking lot over on here on through this boulevard there.

We're looking at shared parking both for guests, which we have short-term parking expanded on street parking with Main Street, and on street parking on the boulevard area.

This could potentially be reserved for city vehicles or city staff up on the north here.

As IT does work on police cars, helping with some repairs and IT upgrades.

So we are looking at potentially reserving a select view of spaces up north here.

Providing 88 parking in multiple locations, both along Main Street, closest to the entrance, and back on the east side, closest to the staff entrance.

What's unique about this project is technically there's no back of house or back of building in the current facility we're in now.

We have an alleyway that's easy to be the back of house, whereas this facility will be accessible on all four sides, northeast, south, and west.

We really want to highlight and address this south and the west portions.

So our north and east is semi quote unquote back of house, where you might have utility, maybe a generator, meters, things like that.

Primarily staff can park on the east side here.

And we are looking at over 200 spaces, over 250 spaces.

Now we are currently working through design on stormwater, because that's always kind of a balance, as you guys know with development that comes forward to you all.

There's a nice fine balance between stormwater improvements and your parking lots and what goes where.

So we're definitely looking at some of our regional detention ponds and their capacity of the entire system, just so we can consider trying to maximize our parking here.

I know Arrowhead, when they have great tournaments, they pack that full events at the senior center, also pack their parking lot full.

So we definitely are tying all of the city's resources together while also trying to maximize parking.

What we would look at currently, traffic counts along Washington are in great shape, so we're not looking at adding any lanes, but we will have create a great sidewalk context to what is the front door all the way over here at the main corner of Washington and Main Street.

So if a guest visitor, if all of these parking spaces were full up on this side, they'd have to park over here and walk down over to the public entry over here.

The entire building is on first floor is one level.

But because there is some existing um grade transition, we will be raising the building up on this corner here, which I'll show in some renderings here to follow.

That kind of gives it an up a presence rising above the intersection a little bit, along with some safety factors.

We can have that elevation change potentially for any conflict with traffic, as well as looking at some hard hardscaping like bollards or race planterbettes.

Speaking of which, I'm going to show the next image here.

So this is the first conceptual rendering.

I know it looks the quality of a photograph, but this is all just a concept.

So this is what the exterior could potentially look like.

This along here is your main street where you can see that existing bike lane and on-street parking available.

This direction would be towards Washington, and so this would be the front entry point now.

Um as we know in our current facility, we have multiple entry points, utility bill pay up here at the main entrance, and even um over here at our one-stop permitting entrance.

And so with this, we're trying to focus, even though there's two sets of doors, the main entry lobby is off of the singular corner, um, open to the public, and then the back of house staff entry would be facing east.

As you can see here, there's a few steps of that transition.

Um, and we'll definitely look at potentially increasing our landscaping here with some of our strategies along with our gateway entry sign to the Rose District in downtown.

Currently, that's not shown yet, but we're still working through some concepts.

I'm gonna pause here.

Do you guys have any questions about kind of the overall site diagram and this initial view of the building at this point?

Currently we have two matching entry gateway signs.

So will the other one stay or will we remove both of those?

That's a great question.

I know we have some 2026 um journal obligation bond funds to do some additional streetscaping on both sides of the street.

So maybe if we want to try to match the other side to what is going to be new, we can consider those funds as a separate project, or if we want to keep it as is, we can I'd like to also add that I think that's more be a larger context question to the downtown master plan and stuff that Rocky Hinkle is running.

Um, because certainly those signs down there, I believe, say downtown on them.

Is that correct?

And then the ones on the other side say Rose District.

So part of it's like, do we want that still be Rose District, or are we calling it a different district or something else?

Because if they're gonna still be Rose District, then I'm kind of leaning towards we'd want them to match like the colors that we see on the other end, and maybe we change them on both sides down there.

Um but that kind of gets into the larger context question of what is downtown on that side of Main Street.

But we definitely want to have that answered by the time we blend it in there.

I had a question.

Um would there be a figure out how to say this?

A solid separation between because on the south end of the senior center, you have an accidental one.

And then on the north, and then you're saying on the north end of that, you would have entered.

So is there going to be a strong divider between that would be easy for people to understand?

Okay, you need to pull it here for the municipal versus an exit for the senior center.

Well, it would be dual purpose.

Dual purpose, okay.

Yes, we do plan on having a landscaped median, so definitely with a curb raised up, plantings and things like that, so it's a clear defined lanes, but you would be able to use this entry for either facility.

Because as you turn around here, you have you would have access to park at the senior center annex or in the municipal services building parking lot.

And then you're talking about the um the number of parking spaces that you would you would have available.

What's the do you have an idea of what the percentage of parking spaces that would be available for people that worked in there versus visitor parking?

I don't think we would plan on marking that, like visitor only besides what is along the on-street parking here.

Okay, otherwise it would be first come, first serve is my intention.

But if you all have other suggestions, we're open to it.

Okay.

It does, especially if we feel like this on-street parking, we don't think is enough for the day-to-day business of guests and things like that, we can easily identify more reserve spaces for them.

Just for uh make sure I understand, is it gonna be all of it going to be two story?

But I thought all of it was going to be two-story.

Is that correct?

So that's a great observation.

Um over here, it's I'm gonna zoom in even further.

There is a dashed line of what the overhang of what will be the council chambers is.

So technically, yes, it's all two-story, but one is cantilevered out per se.

Thank you.

And so we're no longer city hall.

We're municipal services building.

Okay.

Unless council wants to keep city hall.

I mean, that's wrong that down for me.

I'm gonna go, so this is kind of looking, you know, we're standing on the south corner looking, you know, southwest or not looking northwest, excuse me.

So we have another rendering on the exterior here, almost standing up high, looking towards the southwest.

So this would be your back of house, pretty much, like we talked about.

Um, but this would be where majority of staff would enter through this area here, which we're showing at covered awning here.

Um, and Charlie had mentioned we did some cost-saving measures over these last few months, and part of that was trying to find efficiencies and square footage.

What was previously closer to a square shape.

We have since reduced the square footage and reworked the floor plan, which is why you see kind of this piece carved out and utilizing this for an outdoor staff area.

And then the windows here, you'll see later on in the presentation is the break room to look out to it.

So this would be a great multi-function outdoor use as well.

Yeah.

We definitely want to, speaking of the districts, a lot of the materials that we're showing is brick to highlight some of the historic brick that's already existing in the area, um, and utilizing that traditional material, and then you saw the great potential white material of either maybe precast concrete or metal panel or something, highlighting more of a future material, having the city hall kind of look towards the future in that type of moment and gesture architecturally.

But yeah, definitely working through some details here.

Okay.

I'm gonna move on to the floor plans, and if um I'm gonna kind of zoom out overall, and then we can dive in a little bit more specifically.

So, yes, this is the first floor plan as we are just looking at two floors currently.

What was mentioned beforehand, that overhang area that you saw here is this dashed area, and then these are the two doors into a nice open lobby space.

We have community development down on the south end, finance and utility billing split in this darker gray area, staff entrance here, and IT kind of in this purple in the corner with some other site or excuse me, uh facility amenities sprinkled throughout.

So I'm gonna zoom in here and focus mainly on this lobby zone.

So somebody who's visiting for the first time can enter into the open lobby space here, and there would be a set of three windows, but all in one location.

So your primary reception at the front, the public one-stop for community development serving here, and then utility bill pay window along with the utility department over on this location.

There's two consult rooms that we have shown here, smaller for those quick, maybe one-on-one discussions.

Um, maybe if they want to meet with a contractor or a developer quickly, um, or maybe they're having a more difficult private discussion about utilities and need to come off to the side.

Um, both of those would have you know access control back to the staff areas, but two ways in and um two ways out.

With this open lobby here, it's uh they would be an open stair that would lead to the second floor, which would how you would actually access the council chambers.

There's potentially a little quick service cafe amenity shown here, and the elevator and public restrooms down here as well.

Another feature that was kind of a multi-purpose feature.

HR does quite a bit of training.

We are always hiring great people, um, so they're bringing in new employees or consistently working on continuing education along with IT, who utilizes the training space as well.

And I want to give credit to Counselor Ford who mentioned um maybe a community space room, especially as we've gone to lots of HOA meetings that sometimes utilize our facilities, such as Battle Creek, but but giving another facility like a room space to see 40 people here, so that would have access off of this public area here with this training room.

So city functions, but accessible enough for anyone to potentially help schedule it.

And then once again mentioning staff entries back here.

We have a second large staircase with what we're calling the atrium.

A goal is to bring in natural daylight into the interior core of the space, and you'll see that in a few renderings.

But this will help connect and open up all the different departments to engage with one another as they transition from the entry vestibule, maybe down to their office space or upstairs to other offices.

And then we're showing some back of house electrical and emergency electrical rooms and then fitness area back here as another amenity for staff.

We are showing three tech conference rooms here, not including these two consult rooms.

So three conference rooms on this level, and then we have more conference rooms on the next level.

We have separate multi-stall restrooms down here below.

And one item that we're still working through is a potential area to hardened off for storm.

I know severe weather comes in, and we're not looking at an ICC 500-rated storm shelter, but we could look at additional structural amenities to the facility in case of severe weather, especially for potential like our server room, data center area, some of the high dollar equipment that services beyond this facility.

Okay, I'm gonna move to the second floor.

Zoom out just a little bit to get the overview.

So on the second floor here, um, we have these stairs up here.

We have council chambers down in the orange, which is that um architectural piece that overhangs.

City clerk over here with light green, as they access this space often, especially on days like today in preparation for the meeting.

Um, legal over here, HR.

We have the TED team, tourism and economic development, city manager suite in the orange, communications in the light green, and some potential future growth space identified here, along with the break room.

So zooming in, we can dive a little closer in depth.

So here would be that second floor, what we call pre-function space.

So right now, outside of these doors is just a skinny hallway.

I say skinny, it's fairly decent size, but you know, people talk after meetings or before meetings, chit-chat, catch up, and what we're showing here is much larger, um, including a space identified for the hall of mayors to transition over there.

And then once again, like similarly here, you walk in to the higher point of the chambers and then walk down.

This would be similar in that it'd be rate elevated up higher, and you'd walk down into the chambers.

We have an expanded dais based off of counts for planning commission and things like that and potential future counts.

But then increased our seating capacity to over 100 occupants, which I think this one holds about 70 currently, and larger chairs.

That's a key function here, more people and more larger chairs.

Taller chairs too.

Yes.

Wider and taller.

Yes.

You're welcome.

And then back of house, we have some storage, kind of using a multi-function as the control room over here, um, services this facility, also looking at some of our communication needs, having the control room, maybe dual purpose for recording studios and podcasts, and some of the communicate communication material here.

Um, a another restroom, I'm sure that's key for everyone to note here, and then an executive session conference room dedicated to that.

So, you know, pre-meeting, you can meet here, grab your meal, and then during executive session, it can be closed.

And that restroom will be like soundproof, might not like it.

We did request that, Deborah, for sure.

We don't want to run her in the flash.

No.

Um, because this level of the chambers is a little higher, you'll see kind of this white space here with a little arrow, those would be ramps.

So kind of similar to the corridors now.

It's a smooth transition, but it is ramped up.

Um we'd have similar ramps here to public toilets, which is stacked on top of the first floor to be efficient with our plumbing.

And then there's multiple conference rooms open to the public side here that can be reserved.

So let's say you know, Ted is meeting with a developer and something like that, they can bring him to the conference room here without having that member of the public go behind staff doors to a conference room or anything like that.

Staff quarters, I should say.

And there's another conference room right over here, similar to what we call the CM conference room now, where it could be accessed from two sides.

I want to clarify too when you said city manager suite, it's not just for the city manager.

And that's like the thing staff.

So yeah, that's for the clarifying.

Yes.

Your sitting area, you're a good amount of space there, and then currently it's kind of shown open to communications, but we could potentially look at closing that off, along with a larger um conference room here.

I think where you're trying to sit seat 30 at the table.

I know right now the existing facility does seat less, so we want to make sure all directors, especially for those key leadership meetings that occur often, they're all able to sit here.

So this would be a great function, I think that's used often.

And then as mentioned beforehand, we had a department shown going into here and have since um restrategized, but we do want to show future office space.

This facility that we're building today is supposed to last at least for 20 plus, if not more years, just like the facility we exist today has served for decades.

So within each department, there's some future growth along with this space here.

Um now we might not build all these offices out, but there is a plan.

We do want to be proactive and plan for it.

And then we have relocated the break room to the northeast corner here with one singular break room in efforts to try to bring all the staff together during those communal times.

Um now we understand that there might be a need for a coffee maker within each department or some of those quick amenities, but the goal being to bring staff together in a communal communal space with the break room.

Legal, we have shown in closed off, or excuse me, HR.

We have shown with doors that close off this apartment, this department for you know privacy reasons and things like that.

But majority of departments don't show a door to their department, it's just an open area.

Once again, to try and make the flow easy and seamless throughout, um, along with making sure you know we're all here together as a team to work together as a team.

So little efforts like that, although it's not defined as legal, it's kind of defined as legal space, but there's no door there.

There's still that definition between the um walls and things like that.

Maybe with some finishes we haven't decided.

But that's the overall floor plans of first and second floor.

Do you have any notes before we show some interior renderings?

I do.

Um, one thing that we mentioned in I know maybe still be in the works or we talked about in the council chambers, be sure to make the diocese uh handicap accessible in some form or fashion.

I know there's a ramp that goes out into the executive session room, but we were talking about from the front side, so you don't have to go out off the executive session room every time you need to come down in front of the dioceses.

Yep.

We were Charlie and I were just brainstorming that a little bit further, and maybe one of these ramps instead of going all the way down to what would be this level here, right?

Maybe this ramp stays up at the dais level, and then there's like another ramp that comes this way, and we rearrange some of these seats or something.

We definitely think there's solutions, and we'll work with Narrate, they're really smart.

They'll come up with a great idea too.

Um, to make sure it's convenient for all.

Yeah, great comment.

I noticed you also said uh, and I think it's very important, uh, a couple of meeting rooms or a few meeting rooms where we can meet, city council can meet with the citizens, you know.

I've used Pernara bread for years, and they're really nice.

But uh citizens, I think they think it's not really professional, but we do get to eat a muffin and then while we're there.

But I really like it as professional that we can say yes, we'll meet and call it.

Staff has made rooms for me before, but uh this to have a standing room that we can call said yes, I need that room for that time.

I think it makes us look a lot more professional.

And I'm gonna double down on that.

Um we also are looking at potentially two remote offices right here and right here facing the HRM, so that if you don't want if you just need to come in and work between meetings or board meetings or something like that, and you don't want to go all the way home, or maybe it's staff that doesn't have an office here, but they need to be here, those can be those flexible remote workstation offices.

So you can come in, take a couple phone calls before your next meeting, or vice versa.

So, yeah, we're looking at those options as well.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Um I'm gonna show some interior renderings.

Now there's still what we'd call white boxed, so there's no finishes or anything like that selected, especially as part of our um cost control measures.

We're definitely looking at how can we be efficient um and cost effective but also durable and something to last.

So there's no finishes shown yet.

Oh, excuse me.

This is what we'd say is an exterior elevation.

Um, these are kind of just showing not there are flat images beyond the 3D renderings that you saw previously.

Um so this would be what is facing west main street and bringing in some of that typical or historical context of what you would see on down maybe further down in the Rose District.

Most of those lot sizes back in the day were about 25 feet spacing, and so we're looking at maybe our structure is that in reference to that as a nod to the historical context, and then as discussed before, more modern approach with material, especially over the governing body as we look towards the future for this city.

This is one of the first renderings of the lobby.

Um so as you can see here, this grand staircase would lead you up to that second floor pre-function space.

This would be the reception window, one stop, and utility bill pay area here, access to an elevator back here, and then potentially that little quick service cafe here.

But plenty of open space, probably some soft furnishings.

We know we need to have some more digital signage.

I know we have a TV right now on the wall and some kiosk, so we definitely want to make sure we provide an area to provide digital information that we can update regularly, along with posting some of our legal notices.

I know um Curtis Green, our clerk has said, you know, there's certain public requirements by law that we have to post.

So we're definitely considering how can we do that efficiently, cleanly, um, but also towards the future as well.

This would be on the second floor, so the lobby space is down below here.

But this would be looking towards chambers, probably having a nice finished material there, um, and then your potential hall of mayors and then back staff entry located here.

While also providing plenty of glass, you know, transparency is a huge item for the city, and we want to make sure you know people are aware seeing seeing their government at work.

This would be what the atrium could look like.

Um so that's kind of that middle piece here.

We have different departments off of each floor.

This is currently looking towards the north with the elevator.

Um, but looking at clear story windows up high to bring natural daylight in.

TED team, probably on this side.

HR was over here, and legal is kind of behind us.

Looking towards what is the break room right there.

And then this is the break room looking towards the north and the east, senior center annex, but a great open space for all of the departments to come together and eat or have coffee before the day starts.

Thank you.

Okay.

I do like all the glass for the transparency because we're so big with the transparency.

I think that just continues on with our message, you know, especially with the council chambers as well, being um transparent and with glass.

So I think you did it.

Your you and your team did a really good job.

We didn't really have a whole lot of suggestions, honestly.

You did such a good job.

Yeah, I think we kind of peppered you guys with some comments and different things in our pre-meetings, and then you guys have done a wonderful job of taking those recommendations and suggestions and turning it into something great.

I just have one question.

Um for feature expansion.

We always talked about thank you for doing that.

Feature um capacity, um, what is the availability of that building for growth as our city continues to grow and services are also being needed.

This is one thing I push for big time.

I've been I've been constantly the how are we gonna get there in 20 years, 30 years guys ago.

Exactly.

But the point that I want to highlight the Shannon talk about that we took out in the piece there.

So what's really important there is that you see the corridor extends to that piece.

I don't remember how much square footage it is.

Do you remember?

But like we added that two story, I think we add back to 4500 square per floor.

No, it's like 2,000.

So it's not right to you guys.

Okay.

So we're probably close to 5,000 square footage we can add just by throwing in there, which probably gets you another 10, 15 offices.

I don't know, somewhere in there.

But so we can easily just add the hallways in right there and start building, and it doesn't disrupt day to day off what's going on in the building day to day currently.

Awesome.

So that's the easy button, and then there's room where you can start taking up parking lot after that still even further in the future.

Okay, perfect.

Thank you.

And then I know we brought the TED team over.

Were there any other departments?

Because I know like our parks department is out in the middle of nowhere, and we've got people all over the place.

You are correct.

So Ted team is coming over.

Um they're currently shown here in the center on this, what is kind of purple-ish.

Um, but yes, they're looking at coming over.

HR, which is across the street here at the house is looking at coming within the facility, but then thankful to the citizens that have passed the 2026 Go Bond.

Currently, we're looking at potentially relocating parks to maybe Elam Community Center or some of those other facilities there instead of bringing them here.

So that's kind of what has occurred for this space here.

Okay.

That area was designed to hold them if necessary.

What's the capacity of that building as it's there right now?

For like how many employees?

Okay, or like occupancy capacity, yeah.

Occupancy.

Um, I don't think we've completed an occupancy count in terms of life safety.

I know they're working through that now.

Okay.

Um, but for employees, I think we have over 140 is what we counted, right, Jennifer?

Yeah, we counted 140 because we were working with IT on how many laptops and computers we would need and how many TVs.

So somewhere around there.

And currently there's I think just over a hundred employees currently.

So we have future growth already planned.

How about the square footage of the build of the each level?

Of each level, I'm not quite sure.

Narrate.

Or total total square footage.

We're right around like 63, yeah, 63,000.

Okay.

Thank you.

Hey.

Do I want to touch on cost?

Yeah.

Okay.

So what decisions do you need from the governing body, Charlie?

I think just general direction of how if there's any comments they feel, I mean, we're really, really close, we feel like to locking in.

Um, we're kind of past schematic design, but locking in what we feel like is the final floor plan, and then giving narrate and the team and Apple's the go-ahead, you know, finish.

Like this is the hardest part because it's iteration, iteration, iteration.

So if everybody generally likes where we are, we can hit the ground running and finishing it up.

I will say the iterations we've gone over over and over.

Our first cost estimate, I think we came in a little over 30 million, which was uh in Mr.

Spurgeon's direction we've gotten was to make sure we're under that number.

Um, and so some of the cuts that's even been since you guys have seen it, it's changed a little bit.

It was to get our costs down, um, some of the skylight features and some other things, and we're down closer to that 28 million today based off the estimate.

So yeah, they showed us the skylights and we got all excited, and they're like, Yeah, we're not gonna get those.

Yeah, we've we've already we've already cut uh two to three million worth of things just to try to keep it to where and right now we we feel confident that it's a great building and it's a building that um fits with the the budget that we've set at the beginning.

So it's awesome, it's amazing.

I like it, I think it's I'm excited about it.

Uh I mean yeah, yeah, I think so to like two years.

Fall of October.

I mean fall of 2020.

Okay.

I think so.

No, I that's what I was thinking too.

Yeah, I it will be on.

I mean, I was trying to think through the elections all, but yeah, I think I mean we're shooting for summer, summer, late summer 2028.

I think you have like three years.

Okay, get on it.

I think we're good.

I think we're good.

Perfect.

Thank you guys.

It's awesome.

Well, yeah.

No other questions or no comments directly.

Look good.

We're really good.

Okay.

Great.

Yeah, good job.

Thank you.

Like we said, we'll plow forward with all of this design intent.

We'll still meet regularly with our um council subcommittee to make sure they're informed, especially as we start picking finishes and things like that and develop some of the interiors a little bit more.

But yes, thank you.

All right.

Make it so.

All right.

Uh item five is remarks by governing body members.

Uh just one comment.

This is not part of the bond issues either.

So I'm not sure the public knows that this is not part of our uh last or any of our bond issues.

So uh appreciate that.

City manager.

I just want to say thank you to to Charlie and Shannon, Jennifer, and also to the narrate team.

We've had the pleasure of working with them for well over a year now to get to this point, and then we we added Nab holds who is has an incredible reputation.

And so I think that we have an excellent team for the council that's going to put together a dynamic product.

And I'm so excited that you our community will I believe we'll um uh love what we've done because it actually just continues to the uh the theme that we have for for the downtown with the glass and the brick and so forth.

And so I'm just I just appreciate the council members' thoughts and we'll go forward and we'll keep everybody updated, probably at least every quarter.

I like it.

Well, and our existing building here are just outdated, you know what I mean, especially space-wise.

So it was going really every year, it's gonna keep getting worse and worse.

So uh certainly agree the step one to start with and and go for it.

I would hope that we would be in a situation where we could bid this project in the early spring of next year and then be in in late summer or early fall of 2028.

I mean, that's obviously uh we I don't have an exact construction schedule yet, but now that we have direction from council, we can start moving towards putting that that uh chart together that shows uh when we could be in the building, obviously.

There's still a lot of furniture and fixtures and equipment that we'll try to bring over, but there's gonna be a need for it for additional, especially with this the additional space.

So all that's been factored in.

So all right.

Motion to adjourn.

Second, motion and second, roll call.

Oh there you go.

I had to get back to them.

I was already ways a long way away.

We're adjourned.

Thank you.