That's what that is.

All right, good evening, everybody.

We'll go ahead and uh get started.

It's 5 30.

If we could get a roll call, please.

Mindy Payne, here.

Robert Gorenson.

Here.

Jayley Clempa.

Here.

Jonathan Townsend.

Here.

Jason Cohen.

Here.

Uh old business, we have none.

Uh item four consideration for the consent agenda.

We do have item four B that's been requested to be pulled from this.

Is there any other items to be pulled from the consent agenda?

Okay.

Do we have a motion?

Chair, I make a motion to approve all items on the consent agenda per staff recommendation other than item four B.

I'll second the motion.

We have a motion and a second.

Can I get a roll call vote, please?

Mindy Payne, yes.

Robert Gorenson?

Yes.

Jaley Clempa.

Yes.

Jonathan Townsend?

Yes.

Jason Cohen.

Yes.

Item number five, consideration of items removed from the consent agenda.

Uh we'll go to item 4B.

If staff could review that, please.

Sure.

Um this is uh lot zero zero two nine zero two twenty twenty-six for uh Glowacke lot split, one point one six acres, going from one lot to two lots.

It's RMH zoning, which is residential manufactured home, and it's located approximately one half mile south of East Dearborn Street, which is 41st, and one half mile east of 37th Street, 29th East Avenue.

Thank you.

I asked for this to be pulled.

If you could pull up the aerial thing, if you could like zoom in on that.

I just have one question.

Right where it says like Cm.

The lot split looks like it goes right through that building.

Is that been taken care of?

Yes.

They have pulled the demolition permit for that old mobile home, and it has since been removed from the property, so there are currently no structures on either of the proposed lots.

Okay, wonderful.

That's I was looking at that and I was like, um we could make somebody really upset.

Yeah, I wish we could um update the aerials, but sometimes they can be even a couple years in between.

Um, so it's not the most current.

Okay.

That's all I had.

I just wanted to make sure we were good with the line.

Thank you.

So staff's indicating we don't have real-time satellite imaging.

That is correct.

All right.

Why do you want Jason?

Well, I thought with technology the way it is.

I guess you have to I guess I'm asking too much.

I guess you want paycheck, too.

All right, is there any other questions for item four B or comments?

No.

All right, do we have a motion?

I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda item B per staff recommendations.

Second.

All right, we have a motion and a second for item four B.

Can I get a roll call vote, please?

Mindy Payne, yes.

Robert Gorenson?

Yes.

JLie Klempa.

Yes.

Jonathan Townsend.

Yes.

Jason Cohen.

Yes.

And we'll move on to item six, public hearings.

We have six A.

Staff could review that, please.

Yes.

Item 6A is a public hearing consideration and possible action regarding BAZ-002875-2026.

CSD Lynn Lane rezoning.

1.89 acres located one-eighth mile south of Houston Street and east of 9th Street.

Uh this property is platted as lot four block one of Linlane Plaza East.

Um, and this is a request to change the zoning designation from industrial light to commercial heavy.

This property was initially developed as an office warehouse development.

Office warehouse use is allowed in both industrial light and commercial heavy zoning districts.

The applicant is interested in including additional uses that would be allowed in commercial heavy zoning, such as general personal services and fitness and recreational sports centers.

The applicant is requesting CH zoning to allow the new uses while maintaining office warehouse as an allowed use.

The broken arrow comprehensive plan designation on this property is level six, regional employment slash commercial.

The CH zoning district being requested is permitted in level six.

Based on the location of the property, surrounding land uses and the comprehensive plan, staff recommends that BAZ-002875-2026 be approved.

Since the property is already platted, staff recommends that plating be waived.

Thank you.

Is the applicant present?

Do you have anything you'd like to add, sir?

Uh I could add, yes.

Okay, if you'll come up here and state your name, please.

Sure.

Uh John Walsh, John Walsh.

Um been employed by the applicant for eight years.

Uh our intent was to use the property as an office warehouse uh rental, which we currently operate one on aspen across the street from the uh large church on North Aspen.

We were fully intending to do that.

However, we were surprised when we uh started this the structure and we started advertising for the space.

We've literally had nine to one ratio of potential tenants coming to us asking to uh use it for commercial purposes.

Uh for example, a dance studio, which is instructional.

So literally we were we were surprised by that, and we would have preferred actually to keep it the simple the way it was.

However, uh I uh we scheduled a pre-uh development meeting with the city and in the city uh in the meeting rather the city advised us that if we wish to accommodate those other uses, one simple way to uh start that process would be to apply for the CH zoning.

And that would cover every potential use uh that we were dealing with.

So that's the nature of the request.

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you.

Uh uh sorry, sir.

Sir, uh I just had a really quick so is that um approach, is that the only way that you can uh fulfill the possible uses is to go this route as far as the city.

Well, it was zoning.

There are other approaches.

One is we could create a PUD, which is generally a much more lengthy process.

Okay.

Uh there was the concept of uh perhaps getting a grant uh a waiver within.

Uh I'm not sure whether the other uses the other approaches were.

But when it was simply spelled out to us, if we went for CH zoning, it would have cover everything we're talking about.

Okay.

And what's also I'd like to point out in terms of the current zoning of the uh neighborhood, uh that's um you're seeing uh Lynn Lane there, our property is on the right.

That entire industrial park is all zoned IL.

Right across the street is CH zoning.

So the zoning that we're applying for matches what's literally across the street from us.

So again, we don't see it as introducing uh something that's incongruous with the area.

Yeah, I was wondering if all options and endeavors have been explored, if if if that was the way to go or if there was another way of kind of satisfying uh along along that path.

So my other question very quickly was just you mentioned a dance studio.

What what other type of commercial as a term exists?

Uh as it well, excuse me, the other um persons that we had that were interested were um uh a fitness trainer who would have a gym with a lot of equipment.

Uh we've had a hair salon, more than one hair salon is interested.

We had a lash salon that's interested.

So now the our problem now is that we're very limited on parking.

And so uh we're we're we're seeking to acquire property, but we haven't successfully been able to uh purchase or even secure a lease for additional parking.

So what we've done, uh we've hired rehired our civil engineer to engage with the city and have a dis uh discussion with our planner about what are the options that we can do given the parking we have.

And as it turns out, as of we as we stand today, we see a path forward to uh um to um we have a path forward where we have enough parking to accommodate the dance studio, and at this point that may be the extent of the commercial use we have for the property.

It would be 4,000 uh square feet, which is four of our 30 units.

Uh the dance studio, uh oddly enough, is the studio that's right across the street here.

Um they approached us very early, and we actually began engaging them in a uh rental discussion before we fully realized the impact of the uh the need to alter the zoning.

So we did have the other uh uses that as people that have still inquired of us as to other uses, but right now we're very limited with our parking.

Okay.

So it maybe someday in the future we'll be able to buy an adjacent lot and accommodate more of the commercial uses.

But as of today, the way it stands, our intent was going to be largely to use the property as originally intended, but to allow uh limited commercial as we can negotiate the parking equation.

Okay.

I appreciate that context.

Well, at least you realize that that the parking situation is is what's drive the drive enforcement based on what your commercial is going to be.

Because as you said, you could have came for us as a PUD and actually asked for a deviation on the parking itself.

You could have also gone to the board of adjustments, I guess, for a variance if that was if you were to get the zoning for it, too.

So right.

Is that uh still an option going forward if the zoning were to pass?

No, I'm not trying to feed your ideas here though.

Well, I I we went to the city that had a lot of people.

I like your idea about pursuit leaving the CIA strict zoning and going in there searching for more property to uh if you change on what you're wanting to have.

And the other advantage that I perceived from going straight for the zoning was the shortest path.

We had this one tenant.

They she had already scheduled a class to begin July 1st and had to cancel it and reschedule.

So we were under the pressure to do something that would be uh suitable and to do it as quickly as possible.

And see, I'm not sure that the the change of the parking I don't know.

You'd have to have a good reason for us to agree to why you would have that.

Like we have to know what that use is going to be, not just to go in there and change it.

Of course.

We've had specific uh discussions with the planning department concerning accommodating the dance studio.

So we're taking it one step at a time.

If we can accommodate that, then we're gonna settle down back up and see what our options are beyond that.

Well, it sounded like you're headed down the right path, actually.

I'm sorry?

Sound like you're headed down the right path.

Yeah, thank you very much.

Appreciate it.

I mean, for the city of Brook Maryland too.

So any other questions?

No.

Okay.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Uh any questions for staff?

No.

Okay.

Um we did not have anybody that wanted to speak on this item.

We do have one um emailed and comment that I'll read.

Ah, thank you, McKenzie's.

You good?

Planning commission members, I am not able to make the planning commission meeting Thursday evening as I have a meeting I need to attend at that time.

However, I would like to make some comments and share our concerns.

We own lots north and south of this property.

All the lots in the edition are currently zoned light industrial.

I think changing the zoning to commercial heavy would not be compatible with the other lots.

This property, ooh, excuse me.

This property was built as a multi-tenant IL zoning with very little parking.

I have built a similar type of multi-tenant property and have a good understanding of the amount of parking tenants will require.

Recently, the owner's representative came to me and asked if I would sell or lease them some property for additional parking.

They acknowledged that parking was going to be an issue with them when it was zoned IL.

There is a 25-foot mutual access easement in front of the building, so there can be no parking in the front of the building.

Is so there can be no parking in the front as the building is on or near the building line.

I have managed and leased small industrial properties for 36 years and understand the market.

I do not think the property would have enough parking to meet the requirements for the CH zoning, which requires more parking than IL as you have customers coming and going.

The owners are currently dealing with a stormwater drainage issue and their occupancy permits are on hold until that issue is resolved.

Thank you, Dan Adams.

Okay.

Thank you.

Um I'm gonna ask the property owner if he has anything he would like to add regarding the statement that was provided.

Uh yes, I do.

Thank you very much.

Uh we're I'm acquainted with Mr.

Adams.

We've uh made several attempts to uh discuss with him uh advise him of the status of our project and to address concerns that he has raised from time to time.

We did have an issue where in the heavy rains, some of the rainwater from our property crossed onto his property.

Uh we're addressing that right now.

Matter of fact, we had to make some uh uh we had to make adjustments to our storm system because of the rainwater that is uh coming from his property, which is north of ours, onto our property.

Now we know that's part of the way drainage works, but we had so much coming onto the property that we had to make uh what looks like will be a $20,000 adjustment to our storm design to accommodate uh the prop the storm water.

Again, I've made repeated uh uh I've had repeated discussions with Mr.

Adams uh regarding the property.

As I said earlier, also uh and also excuse me, concerning the storm management.

We've uh the storm inspector has seen our new work.

We have a plan that we've submitted to the city this week, which details the revisions we made to accommodate the stormwater.

I believe in uh a reasonable amount of time that will be a non-issue.

But it's it's a bit messy now because our landscaping isn't down with the heavy rains we've had, it's been a little messy on our property line.

Um we're also painfully aware of the parking situation.

Uh as I said, we submitted a plan this week to uh are you McKenzie?

Yes.

Yeah, to McKenzie.

Uh after our civil engineer had the negotiation with her and we realized how much I get I asked our civil engineer to tell us what can we do with the commercial property given the parking restraints we have.

Our first priority being to accommodate the dance studio.

We've figured out an equation which we're in discussion with McKinsey about, which allows us to accommodate the dance studio.

We realize beyond that our hands are tied uh concerning the parking.

So uh as I I'm repeating a little bit of what I said before, we're aware it's a constraint.

If I could go back in time and well, I don't want to waste your time with that.

Uh our intent is to accommodate the dance studio and do what we can to fill our property with industrial light uh usage, which generally is look at one person you know with a truck and some equipment in the office and leaving the property.

Uh anyway, that's so uh he he has a uh he's aware it's a legitimate concern.

The prop the um the parking is is a big problem for us right now.

And so we're we're gonna have to be very limited in the number of um commercial tenants that we could accommodate.

Even though it's we're we're we we're very surprised.

I guess we did a market uh miscalculation, but literally they're coming in nine to ten to one requests.

So that's the situation we're in.

All right.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We'll go ahead and close the public hearing.

Any comments from the commission?

No, I still think that the the parking has a driving force, and they know that.

They know what the zoning the ordinance requires.

You can only do so much with with the square footage of the building, whatever the two in the commercial, and this is the amount of parking spots you're required.

You know, so be it the other the email that was just read, you don't I read into it maybe a little bit different, but I think what they're asking for is appropriate.

I don't see a problem with being the commercial in there, to be honest with you.

I don't either.

I have to agree.

I mean the parking lot itself is gonna limit what they're gonna do in the building.

Exactly how large, yeah, how do we do that?

Now it's up to them whether they want to pursue any, and maybe that's what they're working with landowner about getting that parking from their property, and they're not the negotiations may not be going well.

So it sounds like he's being proactive and he's renting two.

I'm gonna sell the commercial appropriate for this.

Yeah.

And actually, if you go back and look, this place has been vacant for I've been here since 1970.

It's been vacant for a long time.

And so it'd be it's nice to see development probably finally taking place over there.

I have to agree.

And if I might add to that, uh I would agree with you.

Uh sir, we've we've already closed the public hearing.

Thank you.

You might be ahead right now, we don't know.

So I'm sorry.

Please forgive me.

So I I have a question uh for staff regarding this.

If we already know that it's not going to be compliant with the requirement for this particular zone, should they not have a PUD for this?

Or well, the way I understand it is currently compliant.

Currently compliant, okay.

So then he's limiting right now.

Even though the whole thing will be commercial, then the other locations will have to have IL tenants in there for it to still be accommodated for what it's owned for with the parking that is required.

So the question that I have regarding that, we are it's understood that a dance studio is the intent to uh occupant, but once they leave then that opens the door for anybody to to move in to that location.

But then it's still based on the use is still based on the parking available.

Yep.

Okay.

Right.

I mean, if it's two stalls per 10 people in there or two stalls per three, I mean, or based on the square footage of the building, the ordinance calls that out.

Okay.

So you're not going to cause the on-street parking or anything like that.

Yeah.

That'd be a violation of the ordinance.

Okay.

Thank you.

So the use is ever set, like I said, the driving force is the parking, that's why they're pursuing other ways to get parking if they need it.

Okay.

Question is whether CH is good or not.

And just because I shouldn't say this, but just because you know we've been talking about the dance studio or something like that.

That doesn't mean that's what it's going to be because they're asking for CH.

Right.

It could be multiple uses in there that we don't know about yet.

Right.

That's why I was just bringing it up, making sure that we're covering all aspects of that.

So any other comments, questions, or a motion.

Well, I think CH is good good fit for this myself.

You can make a motion.

I'll make a motion to approve or staff recommendations.

I'll second it.

Okay, we have a motion and a second for item 6A.

Please.

Mindy Payne.

Yes.

Robert Gorenson.

Yes.

J.

Lee Clempa.

Yes.

Jonathan Townsend?

Yes.

Jason Cohen.

Yes.

Uh that will be go before city council on July 14th at 6 30 p.m.

here in this chamber.

All right.

Item 6B.

Uh staff could go over that, please.

Yes.

This item is a public hearing consideration and possible action regarding PUD-002825-2026 and BAZ-002901-2026.

BA town homes at Bricktown, 2.53 acres, zoned single family zoning change, single family to residential multifamily with PUD located one quarter mile north of Kenosha Street, one third mile west of Aspen Avenue.

And this property is currently unplatted.

This request is proposing to change the zoning on this property from single family to residential multifamily with PUD-002825-2026.

The PUD was initially brought before planning commission on May 28th, 2026, where the item was tabled to allow for the applicant to submit the zoning request and a new notice to be sent out.

The applicant is proposing a one-lot, one-block multifamily development comprised of three bedroom townhomes with attached garages at a maximum of 29 units proposed.

RMF zoning is allowed in comprehensive plan level three.

This proposed development will meet the requirements of RMF zoning except where modified by the PUD.

Access to the proposed development will be provided along West Oakland Place and North Elder Street.

It's a legal question.

Great.

Okay.

According to the FEMA maps, none of this property is located in the 100-year floodplain.

Water and sanitary sewer are of service are available from the city of Broken Arrow.

Based on the comprehensive plan, the location of the property and the surrounding land uses, staff recommends that PUD-002825-2026 and BAZ 002901-2026 be approved subject to the property being platted and the following conditions being met.

One specific amenities and features being listed to justify the detention pond as an act of open space.

Two correcting landscape buffer to landscape edge as marked on pages four and six, and three development area A standards, language swap for lot area and PUD minimum frontage along North Elder Place and West Oakland Place on page five.

Thank you.

Thank you very much, McKinsey.

All right.

No.

Is the applicant present?

If you would come on up here, sir.

You'll have uh 10 minutes to speak, and if you can state your name.

Good evening.

I'm Mike Sedford with Wallace Design Collective, representing the owner and developer of this property.

Um we're looking at uh 2.53 acres.

Uh I think you've seen some of the exhibits that we included in the application.

Um, just uh town homes, uh sim very similar to what you see at Centennial Crossing.

Um, and those are I believe uh they're complete and uh start starting to be occupied.

Um we've got uh certain percentages of uh of masonry required out laid out in the table as far as uh all the masonry um is gonna be I think we've got all the percentages broken down, but you can pretty much look at the elevations and and see it's gonna be pretty sharp looking building.

Um the uh siding is all gonna be uh cementitious, similar to Hardy board, um, which is resilient low maintenance.

Um they've got some opportunities for some green space, some open space on the property.

Um we're in the middle of discussions about you know you know the green space that you see on that exhibit right there, it's probably gonna be the lighter green is gonna be passive, you know, just play areas.

Um the owner is talking about what is what the detention facility could be used as a dual use.

Um we don't know for sure exactly what that's gonna be, but they're committed to to make it, you know, they've talked about you know just uh practice fields, uh you know, play area um for the tenants or for the uh occupants of the buildings.

Um they talked about dog park, but you know, liability and stuff like that.

Um so it's a dry drive.

It's a dry pond.

So it's got a trickle channel going through it or something.

Correct, okay.

Yes, yeah.

So it's big enough to have practice fields, play area.

Um obviously for safety purposes, you want to limit that.

Um, but uh they're committed to have it leaving that as an active open space for the um the occupants of the buildings and the tenants.

Um access points.

I think we talked about that.

Um just two, it's pretty simple.

You know, pretty simple development.

It's uh two access points, uh, one from the west, one from the north.

Um you've got uh um driveway, parking in the driveway, and one in the garage.

Uh parking is currently the current plan is that it exceeds code.

So you've got designated parking spots for each town home, two for each town home, and then you've got 10 scattered throughout the rest of the development for visitors and whatnot.

So I think I've covered everything at this point.

Any questions?

Any questions for the applicant?

Well, I got a question, but it may be for staff, I'm not sure.

But the land the comment about the landscape edge versus landscape landscape buffer, no visual obstruction stuff.

Was that coming straight out of the ordinance?

Is that why it's worded that way?

Or what kind of visual obstruction?

First of all, I guess I want to make sure where the delineation of the landscape edge is, is it the outside edge or is it the inside edge?

Yes, the landscape edge is the landscaping between the property and the right-of-way, and the landscape buffer is between the city.

So it's line in the neighbors.

So it's line at the right-of-way then.

So correct.

Okay.

And so what kind of visual obstructions were you thinking?

Monumental signs or something, or oh, uh, just fence.

Okay.

So we had thought that they were proposing a fence around the entire perimeter, um, but the PUD clarifies that it will be um an unobstructed view for that uh kind of in and out from the right-of-way.

Okay.

Uh I might clarify the intent is to kind of leave it open without the closed in effect, you know.

It was just the way it was.

When you said just unobstructed view, that makes me say, oh, that's cool.

But when you say no visual obstructions, that I don't know.

Maybe it's what I'm thinking.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Yeah.

Keep going.

They may they may add a fence later, but at this point they don't have a plan down.

Well, it depends on what the PD states, I guess.

But yeah, and you know, just to clarify, well, the landscaping will be up to the right-of-way on the on the right-of-way side if there is a fence added.

So what are your thoughts on just additional traffic?

I know at 29, it could be more, maybe more concerning.

But any thoughts on like the capacity of the streets there, and uh have you heard anything from anyone who might have some?

We reached out to the homeowners association actually by way of the developer of Bricktown East, the neighborhood there.

Uh didn't hear anything back except that they were forwarding that on to the homeowners, and we had no um objection that we know of the uh the infrastructure is pretty well built out there.

Um it's a good thing that you know, it's a kind of a mix of commercial, industrial, residential, and then agricultural type, and then senior living to the north.

Um so access and roads, utilities, everything's pretty much built out for that area, and I don't anticipate that 29 homeowners or occupants that are gonna really have a large impact.

So any other questions?

So these are gonna have uh community dumpsters and community mailboxes with why it's gonna work down.

Kind of like a park instead of type, right?

Yeah, is there only one dumpster?

Or are you putting two on there?

Looks like two right now.

We just have plans for one, but it could be actually the space has two um two dumpsters in that space.

So that's a good question.

I just wondered if it was big enough.

So I guess you guys know what you're doing on size in those.

We definitely don't want to create bottlenecks.

But it happens to take their traction.

At apartments, that happens a lot.

Were you committed to the green space, or was it just like a hypothetical?

As far as the square footage of the green that you see on there is is what's planned for the green.

That's the concept.

Um we haven't we don't have engineering plans at this point, but we're you know, since you're seeing this with the PUD, um, the square footage of the green area are gonna be you know in the neighborhood of the same plus or minus factor of probably one or two percent there are green spaces that I did not note in front and on the side of the driveways, but I just didn't count that as the uh open space calculation.

So okay, all right, thank you, sir.

Sure, appreciate it.

We'll give you an opportunity to come back up after some other people speak.

All right, we did have uh a few people that want to speak.

So uh Tamara Lyons, if you come on up here, and ma'am, if you could state your name, you'll have three minutes.

Absolutely.

Tomorrow Lyons.

Um, I am a resident of that senior uh facility across the hall, I mean across the street.

When I tell you, I'm I'm just speaking from a residence point of view.

When I tell you there is no space because uh they put a commercial building at the end of that street, and there's no way out for them to go like to Aspen or anything like that.

So they have to use our street, which is um Oakland Place.

So that in that con it's a concrete company, and they they and it's supposed to be uh residential, but they uh got it changed or whatever, and now it's a concrete company, so we deal with that traffic up and down.

There's parking on the street, but um even the the construction workers that they have there, they've taken up all of that.

So imagine 20 more 29 more families, you know, and it's only one way in and one way out.

This is a corner, it's like a corner.

You come down, excuse me, you come down, uh elder, and then you and you go right here, and there's nothing because there you can't get out because there's housing back there.

Okay, so then you turn down our street, which is Oakland, which is right at the corner there.

You got the senior place right across the street, and then you got the concrete place, and there's nowhere, no way out.

So there's only one way in and one way out, like that, if you understand what I'm saying, if that makes sense.

Okay, and not only that, but I don't he did he say something about parks and dog parks and uh stuff that you can play around.

That space is not that big.

There's no room for any kind of pool or anything like that.

All they have room for is if they're gonna put uh homes or town homes or whatever.

Um sorry.

Uh the only thing, and like I said, there are horses there now, their horses there now, and they already cut that space down for the horses the first time when they made the homes that are on the back side of it.

Okay.

So they uh and those people don't even have a backyard really.

So it's just like this.

There's nothing back here.

I mean, there's homes back here, there's homes this way, and then our street here can come down.

So it's like a like an L-shape, basically the space that he's talking about.

And we're just concerned about where they're gonna come in, where they're gonna go out, you know.

Um right now we're dealing with people blocking the handicapped spaces to get off the sidewalk or whatever.

So it's uh it's a lot um to think about, I think.

Anyway, that's all I have to say.

Just as a resident, because we got duped with the concrete company, we just feel you know, there's no help or understanding if you block off all of that with uh some place to live in 29 families.

I mean single families, yeah.

But 29.

I'm sorry.

Thank you.

No, you're quite all right.

Thank you, ma'am.

Hey, ma'am.

Um what you might want to do is get with staff.

Either you might want to get with staff after this meeting or call in later about people taking your parking spaces, and from the concrete.

Also, just I missed um, and I have we have been in contact with the HOA, and they feel the same way.

I've I've I've spoken to them, uh especially with Kenosha Village.

Uh Kenosha Villas is what it's called.

That's the one that's right on the corner, and you can't go out.

There's no out on their street if you come straight down older.

So uh yeah, we have been in contact with them.

Okay, and I speak on behalf of them.

Oh, sorry, thank you.

No worries, thank you.

All right, uh next we have Harold Rhodes.

Yes, sir.

Uh come on up, and if you would uh state your name and you'll have three minutes.

Well, may I ask for four?

You can ask, but that'll take 10 seconds every time right there.

I'm an honor Marine from your parade.

And I'm proud of being here.

And I got some good news for you.

We came to one of your committees, and we asked our uh RK, you know, a rock, and your deal.

We needed street lights on at the entrance from 71st Street.

It's like going down a black tunnel.

And uh they took our circle as a second.

Please state your name for the record.

Carol Marty Rhodes, I'm known as Marty the Marine in this town.

Thank you, sir.

Now we put it in, they said they would consider it, and thank you.

You they did it.

We have street lights that come down the darkest street for two housing places, and our Kenosha Landing where all these elder people live.

And if you haven't been there, you need to go visit there.

Now, I did some studying of all the trucks that have gone into the monster that's next to us.

Now, I would advise the people that are looking at this deal, they better find out what's going on because that that street in front of our deal takes 200 semi-trucks a week down that way.

Now they're asking to build a uh a deal for parking for the get into their unit up there, but we can't have 24 more cars on our street.

We've got 18 pickup trucks, which got arrested Saturday, and we've got two new semis up here on Elder that they park their trucks and they go because they can't go to Walmart anymore.

Now the traffic situation there is very bad.

And we we have people going to doctors, we have the group behind us that have all these elder homes there.

But I'm asking you to get a traffic survey.

If you want to come, I'll be glad to show you.

Now, Lisa Ford came up the other day, and she was shocked at how this is our problem.

It is now your problem and their problem.

We're not saying that we will disagree with it.

We're asking them to take the architect and cut that little deal off and move it around to Elder where they're in and outs are.

We'll be happy with that.

That's all I got.

So you want to come in off North Elder Place up and down Kenosha Street?

Yes, sir.

Yeah.

I actually thought that's what they're gonna do at first.

So we have lost one citizen to this town on a car wreck on 71st Street.

We've had one of our tenants there that had her son, who's the Santa Claus for the chamber of commerce here, and he got rear-ended by a lady in a Jeep, and no one was killed, but a brand new pickup truck he had was sitting out in the street, and she well, they lost both vehicles.

We need help on that too.

We got to have a stoplight there if we can get it.

Thank you.

I appreciate you guys are doing a good job, and all of us in Brooklyn Arrow are proud of it.

Okay.

Thank you, sir.

Next, we have uh Paula Farrell.

Ma'am, if you'll state your name, you have three minutes.

Absolutely.

My name is Paula Farrell, and I am the president of the Bricktown Homeowners Association, which is directly west of the proposed townhomes.

The reason I'm here is I also actually wanted to talk about North Elder Place, and it's been a bit of a problem of late.

So Bricktown, which is the original brick town.

We have 143 homes there.

Our back entrance exits off of North Elder Place.

Historically, no big deal.

We were the only neighborhood there, no harm, no foul.

Since then, as you very well know, that area has become quite quite a bit congested.

We've heard folks talk about the retirement communities are there.

There's a new neighborhood that's there, and this new asphalt headquarters that is there, and then obviously now there's a proposal for the townhomes also.

So we too are a bit concerned about the congestion, the traffic there.

Recently, over the last few weeks, and we've actually had some semi-trucks that have started parking overnight on North Elder Place, which is even more of a problem because that they're huge and it doesn't feel like they should be taking that up.

And we've had a little bit of we've been trying to work with the city and the police on that, a little bit of finger pointing.

You call the police, they say that the city has it zoned commercial, and therefore they have a right to park there overnight.

Okay, that was probably okay 20 years ago, not anymore when you've got all these residential people driving in and out.

Um, and so it's a bit of a quandary.

So at a minimum, that needs to be resolved that those semi-trucks cannot park there overnight when you have all this congestion.

So that's our main concern that we have again is really related to the amount of traffic, the semis parking there, and just making sure that this is a smooth transition for everyone involved.

Any questions for me?

And I don't know if there's someone we else we need to be contacting about that zoning of commercial versus residential to get those semis out of there from parking.

I'd recommend just reaching out to the city so they can let the appropriate departments or personnel know.

Okay.

I think we've been talking with Rocky Hinkle, but we haven't had much progress there.

Okay.

Thank you, ma'am.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

All right, we'll give the applicant an opportunity to comments emailed in, yeah.

I forget about the emails.

They're very important.

She's got you back.

Okay.

My questions as adjacent neighbor in Bricktown East, who has lived through the perils and consequences of the structure creek project on West Oakland Place.

I have a few questions.

One, what will the stormwater management plan be?

We are inundated with mud and silt on our streets, storm drains, and retention ponds during the structure creek construction.

Two, dust is another issue, which was poorly managed during the aforementioned project.

It remains an issue long term as multiple acres appear to be gravel, as are the end as a the end plan.

That may have been a typo.

Three, maintenance and clearing of North Elder of dirt, gravel, etc.

During site development is a concern.

There remain large quantities of particulate matter along the roadside from the aforementioned project.

And four, most of the trees were uprooted for the structure creek project.

Are there plans to retain any of the trees in this development?

As you might know, Bricktown East was stripped of all foliage for the devote for the development, and the only trees in sight to the west are in this property.

It would certainly make the townhome experience better if the trees were left to flourish.

Thanks for putting these items on the agenda.

I will look forward to the hearing minutes, which I suspect will be published by the city.

Respectfully submitted, Fred Zimmelman.

And the next is regarding PUD number 002825-2026.

VA Planning Department, I am unable to attend the public hearing schedule for this evening, but I would like my statement below read into the record or into the hearing record.

My name is Jordan Cook, and my husband and I have enjoyed living in the Bricktown subdivision near the proposed townhome development on Elder for the past 27 years.

Over these nearly three decades, we've watched Broken Arrow grow into one of Oklahoma's most desirable communities.

We are proud to be a part of that growth.

We understand that new housing is needed, but we also believe that growth should be thoughtful, responsible, and compatible with the neighborhoods that already exist.

That is why I respectfully ask you to deny the propos the proposed town home development on Elder.

One of my greatest concerns is traffic.

Elder is a small residential street that was designed to serve the existing neighborhood, not a high density development.

The new subdivision on the east side of Elder has already significantly increased traffic on this small road, and the ongoing construction has overloaded the street with heavy trucks and equipment.

Adding the proposed townhomes means significantly more cars, construction vehicles, delivery vehicles, service trucks, visitors, and daily traffic using a street that simply wasn't built to handle that volume.

Our neighborhood is filled with families who walk, children who ride bicycles, neighbors who exercise, and residents who enjoy the quiet character of our community.

Increased traffic will not only create congestion but also increase safety risks for everyone who lives here.

I'm also concerned that this development is not compatible with the surrounding neighborhood.

All these years we have enjoyed living in a community of single-family homes.

That character is one of the reasons we chose to build our lives here.

A high density townhome development would fundamentally change the feel of our neighborhood and place additional demands on roads, parking, utilities, and city services.

Like many homeowners, I am also concerned about the potential impact on property values.

Our home represents years of hard work, sacrifice, and investment.

We made those investments with the expectation that our neighborhood would remain consistent with the character that attracted us there in the first place.

That increased volume places greater demand on law enforcement and emergency services and changes the quiet residential environment that has existed in our neighborhood for many years.

I can confidently say that Elder is simply not designed to accommodate the traffic and density that this project would bring.

Once a development of this size is approved and built, its impacts will be permanent.

I respectfully ask you to protect the character of the neighborhood, protect the families who already live there, and ensure that the future development and ensure that future development is appropriate for the surrounding community.

Please deny this proposal or require a significantly lower density development that better fits the existing neighborhood.

Thank you for your time, your service to Broken Arrow, and for considering the voices of the residents who have invested decades in making this community a wonderful wonderful place to live.

Respectfully, Mrs.

Jordan Cook.

Thank you, ma'am.

Now we'll give the applicant an opportunity to speak.

You'll have uh five minutes.

Okay, we've got a kind of list here of items.

I'm gonna try to focus on the site itself.

Um there are some things that obviously around this development that might be need to be dealt with.

Um as far as parking, um the intent is to have all the parking and internal to the site, no no use of public right-of-way for parking for this development.

Um that's why the book broken arrow parking standards are in place, as we know.

Um traffic uh I would say that you know if there's already a problem, I maybe there's some things that need to be dealt with in the existing situation.

I don't think we're gonna add to um traffic problems, 29 residents is it is what it is, but I mean I think that there's certain things that uh you know the infrastructure is there, and you know, if if there's a need for any improvements, uh that might be something that need to be needs to be dealt with later on, uh, but not for this development.

Um sounds to me like there's a lot of stuff off-site that that would be concerns, but um stormwater, um, as you know, uh we're required to meet all stormwater requirements for the state, DEQ, and the city of Broken Arrow.

Um detention, as you can see, is in the um southeast portion of the site.

It's a pretty significant size.

I would say that's probably um half acre.

Um, and it's substantial, more than substantial than to deal with all the stormwater that's gonna be on this site.

And let's see.

Existing trees.

Um I don't believe the grading will allow it, but we will if if we can.

Um it's a fairly flat site, so there is an opportunity to possibly um save some trees, but I can't I can't say that I can't make any promises on that.

Um, but obviously that would have a good positive impact on this development if if it's possible.

So uh I think as I think that's pretty much all I can at this time um focus on.

I mean, I I I would say uh for the for this property, I think this is probably the highest but and best use.

Um it's you know, it's not commercial, it's not it's not um high uh high density multifamily, but it it does it doesn't have the size to create that big of an impact.

Um I think this is a good opportunity to to develop a property that could easily stay there, stay that way for a long time if if this isn't uh done or developed at this time.

So you will be adding trees anyways per broken arrows or it is absolutely and the you know the intent is to exceed the landscape um ordnance and their requirements.

Um I think the intent uh as I said before, we're trying to create an environment there that's that's kind of open with open site lines and you know you'll have some obstructions with the trees but more natural instead of a big eight-foot fence along the right-of-way.

So let me ask this.

I'm maybe I misunderstood something I had heard earlier.

Is I I assume that all the traffic was gonna come in and out traffic, the vehicles driving up and down North Elder Street to get to Kenosha.

Why would they choose another route?

I other than that one.

Yeah, I agree.

I I think that's the only one I I don't other than maybe if they're at the at Kenosha waiting to get out, turn left or something like that, they're gonna block traffic back.

But first of all, I don't see 29 cars lined up, everybody leaving at the same time.

Correct.

But the uh current issue, I mean uh that does bother me, not because of what you're wanting to put in so much as the current issue with the parking itself.

Uh all the uh from the what is it?

You said did I hear concrete?

I didn't think dirt work or something.

Okay, yeah.

So I don't you know, I guess that is a big issue, but I don't know if that's a reason to stop you from going in, no matter what's going to go out there.

But McKenzie, can you tell me on the RS development?

It's currently zoned single residential RS, correct?

Correct.

So how many uh dwelling units per acre?

How many lots can we allow for that?

Because RS2 or RS, we have different lot sizes for that, correct?

Yes.

So the most dense do some could math.

It's 2.5.

Trying to correct apples to apples, but maybe different colored apples here.

So for R S dimensional standards, the minimum lot size is 6,500 square feet.

Um so if this is oh, I don't know what acres is in feet, I'm sorry.

43,560.

Times 2.53.

Well, that's as far as I go.

It may not be a great number to compare, but it is something to compare with.

So uh it looks like 16 uh single family homes would be able to fit, and that is not in cat not counting um detention um any landscaping buffer streets, things like that.

So the 16 16 units, okay, 16 houses.

We allow what 2.3 or 2.5 residents per unit, isn't that what we do?

Some of them are like that.

So no other words, they could have maybe two cars.

So that's looking at 32 cars possibly for 16 houses.

Right.

For single family, we don't really have a calculate cal parking calculation since they do typically have attached garages.

Yeah.

Um and they're not on one lot to require the um off-street parking um that this one is showing with you know some along the driveways.

I guess what I'm saying is what we used to use are something like two cars per house, maybe.

So if you have two cows, two cars, two cows, two cars at 16 houses 32, and then you're looking at 29 residents.

So was your 29 residents, is that what it was, or twenty twenty-nine units.

It's okay, so it could also be twice the amount then.

Yeah, or it could be residence 40 or 60, I guess.

Yes, 60 vehicles, because they can park one in the garage and one on the driveway.

So has the city looked into the current issue of the parking itself, the the trucks and stuff that are parking along North Elder Street, or yeah, that that's my biggest concern.

I have not heard about that, but I think that would be probably the um maybe non-emergency police would be the department that would probably hear about that or receive those.

I guess my point is I don't know if this the property should be, and I'm not speaking for or against the application here, but I'm not sure if it should be held hostage based on what situation.

What somebody else is doing with their property and their tracking.

If I might add, um I did um I have received some phone calls from um some residents of the um assisted living home there.

Um there has been some there have been some calls about that structure uh creek construction there.

Um a bit of clarification with that property there, it's zoned IL.

Um a lot of that area was originally zoned IL due to its proximity to the railroad.

Um but some of the properties um like the Bricktown East were rezoned to residential single family.

Um so that that uh structure creek property stayed I.

And then that's why it kind of seems out of place in comparison to the rest of the development around there.

Um so that's kind of why that uh IL structures is in that area.

Um in regards to the construction um and in the issues we've been hearing from people.

Um the main thing we always tell folks is to reach out to to code enforcement, um, especially if it's a um if it's an already existing uh development.

In this case, since it's one that's under construction, it's kind of hard because it call it falls between um kind of two different areas of you know our planning and development part and then our code enforcement part.

Um but I can certainly reach out to to Rocky and um and see if there's something if there's been any you know um progress on um getting some of those issues, you know, resolved uh with the structure creep, but with also the semi parking on the road.

Yeah, so is it a concrete plant that's already or structure create, whatever it is, it's already there working, and then there's another project on the other side in construction.

I'm or is this all the same thing?

Okay, so it it might be that the structure creed is um completed.

Uh I know that was it was in construction a couple months ago.

It's it's gonna come so it might be completed now.

Um and in that case, if it's completed now, um then it would for sure be um something for us to work with code enforcement um to make sure that there are no issues around you know noise, dust, things of that nature.

Uh my understanding with the structure creep project is that it is um it is mostly an office warehouse type development.

Um I think in their site plan they didn't uh there were no inclusions of outdoor storage or anything like that.

Um they do have some indoor storage for that um for that development there, but it's all indoor um and I think they were mostly gonna be storing like pallets of materials, things of that nature.

Um but they weren't gonna there wasn't gonna be any um on-site production of um you know mixing materials or concrete or things of that nature.

And is that property to the east or to the west?

It's that um kind of where the mouse is on the screen actually right now, that open area.

Okay, okay.

Yeah, or like we were mentioning earlier, uh uh our aerial imageries are a little bit outdated.

Yeah.

So folks, um sorry we we can't hear from the audience.

We if you'd let the commission speak, please.

Uh Jose, I would ask um perhaps if we could look into the possibility of some no parking signs there because then if they park along that street, they could get a citation from the police.

And I think that would be uh and I don't know what legally and what the city can do, but i if you could pass that on, please um to Rocky, and maybe maybe that would be a helpful solution for the residents in the area.

Okay, yeah.

And then uh moving on regarding this applicant alone.

Was there any other questions?

I I agree, I would agree with what you're saying.

And I think to me, it from what I heard I may misunderstood about some of this, but it sounded to me like the the parking existing parking is the issue out there.

Yeah, the traffic there.

I don't I didn't hear anybody really say this that they don't want town homes out there.

I don't I didn't hear that.

I think it was the band say they were worried about the traffic themselves itself.

And a lot of that is caused.

We're seeing a lot more of this in field development of these type of town homes, and they actually look pretty good really.

I know you could have a bunch of small, they could come in here with a little bunch of houses out there that are real small lots that you probably may not like some of that that if you drive been around town and see some of those.

A lot of these townhomes have come in and they looked really nice like this.

A lot of the ones.

And that may be the best fit.

But I'm thinking really, and like I said, unless I'm I've heard you wrong, I think the biggest issue is the current traffic situation they have out there based on the parking lots.

Yeah.

And I can see that being an issue.

Now are we adding to it?

I don't really know.

I don't think so.

Well, the parking part they shouldn't be because they have enclosed parking is within, yeah, is within the design.

So there's parking parking.

Right, right.

I mean, under the traffic coming out.

Right, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, traffic, but not any additional parking.

And I'm sure it looks pretty unsightly out there seeing all the trucks lined up along this curve and stuff.

So if there if that's something city staff could take care of, because that's not really the planning department, planning commission on that.

But we do appreciate y'all bringing it to the city's attention.

Yes.

But it's to start with a no parking sign, but then again, uh, I don't know what the ordinance calls out for that.

And they can they can put no parking.

And I don't remember the concrete plant, but I'd find it hard to believe that we actually let allowed off-site parking.

Yeah, I don't I don't know.

Overflow parking in the street or something like that.

I think they're just doing it.

I don't think that that was allowed.

I think that during construction, they are just doing it.

That's my guess.

But yeah, if we get no parking signs out there, then that and along with on you know, close to their property, then when people for that plant or whatever, whatever commercial park in their handicap or or any other spaces, then that gives them the ability to have those vehicles towed.

Well, you know, maybe stay speaking out turn, not being a chair here, but I I would like to see that if if possible, whether this is approved or denied, is maybe staff could look at this and come back and tell us next meeting or the one after saying we looked at that, the the plant went in there and we didn't allow any on-street parking.

They are in violation, or yeah, they are they are in violation, the city's gonna speak to them, code enforcement is et cetera, et cetera.

The city's gonna speak to them, code enforcement is etc.

etc.

And that would really not make me sleep at night, but you know, at least give us an idea of what's going on out there.

Staff can definitely look into that.

Will you please do that?

Yes, and report back to you as the next meeting.

Yeah, I think I definitely kind of I assume that many of the comments that we heard today that that it would be centered around traffic and um oh here you go.

Traffic and parking is not working.

Parking, but I was a little surprised that that you hadn't really heard many public reservations about it or public, you know, people saying it to this point, but perhaps at times messages don't always make it, but uh I definitely felt that this conversation would kind of play out this way, but but um I also think some things have been raised that could help to to promote somewhat of a a compromise as well.

I think John is gonna give me these cough drop to shut me up, not keeping off I have more.

Yes, yeah, but that's all I that's all I was gonna say about that though.

No, but I don't think this property should be held because of all the problems around, you know.

Hell no, I'm not gonna be able to see by one landowner.

Yeah, semis are parking on the street.

Well, no matter what development goes in, though, you're gonna have the issue with the cars and stuff vehicles.

So there's an issue that needs to be resolved right now.

Oh, sorry, okay.

So if I may, I I just want to point out this isn't about the traffic or anything, but I'm I personally am just looking at the surrounding area in those homes.

And to me, it just makes sense to have the single family homes right in that area.

But that's because and I and I've brought this up before in the meetings that should kind of blend with that.

I mean, if you had like on the east side, you have some apartments or something like that, and then you had town homes and then a transition to single family, I would say that that would work.

But the whole surrounding area, except for the the retirement home to the north, is all those single family homes.

Yeah, um that's just my opinion.

I see this differently.

I see because it's the assisted living to the north, and then the homes around that is this lot in particular is a transitional piece that something like this could work.

Yeah, and I can want to I can see that as well.

You don't want to cookie cut everything.

This is a nice fit, nice mix to me.

So yeah.

Any other comments or questions or motions?

Okay, I make a motion to approve item six B 26-987 per staff recommendation.

I'll second the motion.

All right, we have a motion and a second.

Can we get a roll call vote, please?

Mindy Payne, yes.

Robert Gorenson.

Yes.

J Lee Klempa, yes.

Jonathan Townsend?

Yes, Jason Cohen.

No, and that will go before uh city council on July 14th at 6 30 p.m.

here in these chambers.

All right.

Uh moving on to item seven appeals.

We have none.

Number eight, General Commission business.

If staff can review item eight A, please.

Yes, this is uh discussion consideration and possible action regarding site 002829-2026 Zico Global Technology Center, 50.5 cent, 50.57 acres, industrial heavy requesting a waiver on facade material requirements located north of Washington Street and west of Evan Road, Evans Road.

Zico Inc.

is requesting a waiver to the facade material requirements for site 002829 2026.

This site plan represents a planned expansion to the ZCO Global Technology Center located north of Washington Street and west of Evans Road.

Section 3-3-6.g specifies those building material excuse me, specifies those building materials which are allowed for for the public-facing elevations of developments in IH zones.

The proposed site plan submitted by ZCO exceeds the 25% allowed via director approval.

Any site plan with a public facing elevation with more than 25% of the material be being metal panel requires approval via the broken arrow planning commission?

Staff recommends that the public-facing facade material standards for site dash 002829-2026 be modified to allow for more than 25% of the elevation to be comprised of metal panels, exterior insulated finished systems, or masonry materials other than brick or stone.

And the applicant is uh in agreement and is present.

Okay.

Thank you.

Any questions for staff?

All right.

Uh did the applicant want to add anything?

I do have a question for the applicant.

Okay.

So if you'll come up and state your name, you'll have uh 10 minutes.

I'm John Ollig, architect with Synergy who did the design work on this.

I won't need 10 minutes, I promise you.

Um what is existing out there is a pre-engineered metal building with pretty industrial looking panels on there.

We are uh reskinning that existing building with an architectural ribbed metal panel, and then adding on to that with the rendering that you just saw pop up there.

It is a smooth architectural panel that is very fitting for the site.

It's in a combination of dark gray, light gray, and they're corporate orange colors.

So uh it is it sets very far back from the streets.

There's we are including actually on top of that, some screening on the roof to cover some of the RTUs that are existing up there, and the new roof is depressed down enough to cover the other the new units we're putting on there.

So uh the screens are ours, they're also a uh a livered system, so you really shouldn't see stuff from the streets.

There's a patio that's going out there for the employees.

That's what you're looking at right there.

Um that's really it's really uh dressing up the the site from what it's used to been.

Once we're doing this, it's about a 20,000 square foot office edition on the west side of the property, and then rehabbing a lot of the interior spaces there to add windows, add natural light, and basically refresh it to make it look nice and clean.

Zico owns, I think all the land around there for ever.

I mean, so that's pretty much it.

I'll say I don't know if you have any questions for me, but that's really what the project is.

Okay, yeah, we do have a question.

Um the architectural panels.

Do you by chance have a profile?

The ribbed panel, it's a yeah, I don't have the number in front of my head.

Actually, we installed this on St.

Ann's Church here in broken arrow, it's that same panel.

Um and the other ones, it's just a smooth panel.

It's got a 12-inch reveal to it, it's got a nice shadow line to it, and the orange is a custom color, we're heavy custom made.

Yeah, so it's all it's not I want to make I'm sure it's not the agricultural panels, the R panels what we call them.

It's not that it isn't it is an architectural panel that's selected by Kingsman.

It's an insulated one, so it shouldn't oil can should look pretty nice and clean.

And it for what the application is.

Yeah, it says that it's uh insulated panels, so you should be good.

Yeah, yeah, and that's what it is for the it's for the insulation, but it's also for the oil can soon it looks clean again, not our panels.

I don't like those, we don't do them.

And even the the existing roof is being re-riffed as well with uh it is currently in an R panel and it is going to be re-roofed with a standing seam roof.

Okay.

So perfect.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Anything else?

I like the outdoor space for the employees.

I'm like, ooh, I want to go work there.

That's really cool.

Yeah, are you gonna have to have an open house for when you're done?

So yeah.

That's so yeah, good.

Invite the planning commission.

That'd be great.

I was like, well, this is really cool.

It's astro turf, lot of fun things out there.

Yeah, looks nice.

Nice faces.

Yep, taking care of your employees very nicely.

Yeah, they're doing a lot of things.

It's gonna be a lot of, I think it'll be really nice.

Nice improvement.

Any other questions?

Okay, thank you very much.

Thank you.

McKinsey, did we have any emails?

Well, yeah, I'm learning.

And it didn't look like we had anybody to speak on this item either.

So uh any other comments, suggestions, motions.

I'll make a motion to approve item 8a 26-985 per staff recommendation.

I'll second the motion.

We have a motion and a second.

If we can get a roll call vote, please.

Mindy Payne, yes.

Robert Gorenson.

I think it's gonna look good looking building.

I said yes.

Jaley Klempa, yes.

Jonathan Townsend, yes, Jason Cohen.

Yes.

All right.

Uh moving on to item nine remarks, inquiries, and comments by planning commission and staff.

No comments from staff.

All right.

I I I guess I will say one thing, and maybe Graham will stop me.

I know if I say the wrong thing here, but on the issue while ago when I brought up the deal about the uh uh you know telling us about the traffic and stuff out there, the that last item we saw.

I guess this is separate because it's gonna go to the city council on July 14th or whatever.

So maybe that's something y'all want to be postured to address for the city council when it comes to them.

If you can't, if you do have that time.

Sure.

Well, you know, I never know because you always give me that look.

You know, most of the time you give me that look.

I used to have Jalie kick you if there was a problem.

I'm sorry, he's down way down there now, Jonathan.

And I can't reach Jonathan, so but I know what I I I didn't think about, but I know I asked to tell talk to us about it, but then I forgot it was going to city council.

We got approved July 14th.

So if there's anything you can present to go with that to them, that'd be good, I would think.

We'll do and then you could still tell us later.

And my my thought is that it probably has to go to the traffic advisory committee to to review before any signs can be put up.

Yeah, as long as the council knows something's coming from you on that, I guess.

Anything else?

Okay.

Item 10.

Adjournment.

Move to John.

Abuler.

Second.

We have motion and a second.

All right, roll call vote, please.

Mindy Payne.

No.

Robert Gorenson.

Yes.

JLie Klempa.

Yes.

Jonathan Townsend.

Yes.

Jason Cohen.

Yes.

Thank you all.

Thank you.