5:12Our first item for consideration is the review and approval of our minutes from the June 8th meeting.
5:21Is there any questions?
5:44We have three items for public hearing.
5:51Is a request for a variance.
5:54And can we get staff to uh go over this with us, please?
5:59This is uh public hearing consideration and possible action regarding uh VAR-002919-2025.
6:08202 Elgin apartments, approximately 0.24 acres, downtown residential overlay district five.
6:16Requested variants from section five of the downtown residential overlay district regulations to modify driveway width.
6:23Located approximately one half mile north of West Houston, also known as 81st and one half mile west of 9th Street, also known as 177th East Avenue.
6:34VAR-002919-2025 involves 0.24 acres within DROD area 5.
6:41It is a request to waive the downtown residential overlay district driveway with regulations located approximately one half mile north of uh West Houston, one half mile uh west of 9th Street.
6:54Uh the applicant has resolved the legal matters around the property and has reapplied for a variance on the property.
7:00Uh the previous application was under case number VAR-002667-2026.
7:08Um that application was withdrawn before a vote or decision was made.
7:13Um for a variance to be granted, there are four conditions that must be found by the Board of Adjustment.
7:18Uh one is unnecessary hardship.
7:21The application of the ordinance to the particular piece of property would create unnecessary hardship.
7:26Uh the staff analysis is that lots within Broken Arrow's original town site are narrow and long, which was normal for development at the time.
7:33However, these normal lots present challenges and obstacles when developing to modern standards.
7:46It only specifies a minimum of 26 feet for the build type.
7:51The minimum width of 26 feet shown within the DROD does align with a two-way drive that does not have alleyway access as seen in the ordinance.
8:00However, there are no specific requirements for those developments with a one-way access drive with egress using a public alleyway.
8:09Two, unusual conditions, such conditions are peculiar to the particular piece of property involved.
8:39Three, public good relief if granted would not cause substantial detriment to the public good or impair the purposes and intent of the ordinance or the comprehensive plan.
8:48The staff analysis is that the variance, if granted, would allow for more dense housing to be constructed in the DROD.
8:54That itself is the goal of the DROD.
8:56There are other existing driveways throughout the district that are variants widths, uh including some one-way drives with widths as low as 15 feet.
9:05Four minimum variance, the variance if granted would be a minimum necessary to alleviate the unnecessary hardship.
9:11If a two-way drive needs to be a minimum of 26 foot in width, then a one-way drive could be considered to need a minimum of 13 foot in width.
9:20The applicant in this case is requesting to reduce the width of the one-way driveway to be 13 feet.
9:26One thing I'd like to note as well is that this applicant is different from a previous uh application that we had come before the board.
9:33It's very similar in a lot of ways.
9:35It's a very similar request, almost has the same uh address as well.
9:39Um, but I do want to note that this is different from that um application.
9:43That one was for a project on 202 Fort Worth.
9:48So I just wanted to uh state that as well.
9:50Um staff recommend um that VAR-002919-2026 be approved, granting a variance for a 13-foot one-way driveway for a proposed flat style development on the subject property.
10:09I want to note for the record too that board member Kamara Washington is now present.
10:14Is the applicant here?
10:17Would you like to speak?
10:21If you'll state your name, uh you've got 10 minutes.
10:24Okay, my name is Tamara Lawan.
10:26I am with 66 ENG group.
10:29We are the civil engineer on the project.
10:33Um this flat build will be a two-story six-unit building.
10:40We have laid out 45 degree parking with the 13-foot drive lane that we are requesting.
10:48The spaces required for these units will be nine, and we have nine provided.
10:54The alley access behind is a 20-foot alley that connects North First Street to North Second Street.
11:05We have conducted a pre-development meeting.
11:08Fire access was approved by the far fire marshal from North First Street, and we have maintained our 10-foot building setbacks.
11:19Um it's just the driveway that the DROD does not specify for one way.
11:28Any questions for me?
11:31Is the alley two-way?
11:34It's graveled right now.
11:37It doesn't specify it is a 20-foot wide.
11:43And are these one bedroom units or two bedroom units?
11:47I'm not sure on the bedroom count.
11:49There are six units.
11:50But nine that's required.
12:03I don't have any questions on it.
12:07Thank you for your consideration.
12:14We also do have somebody that's here from the public that would like to speak.
12:22If you will state your name and you have three minutes, sir.
12:26My name is Frank Corton.
12:28Again, I just want to address the analysis here for a second.
12:32Uh, under uh part two there, the analysis is says the geography of the parcel and the economics of the infill development and the requirements of the DROD necessitated a certain number of parking spaces per unit while maintaining setbacks and other required dimensional standards.
12:50That's the city's statement or analysis, I understand.
12:54That the fact that we're going to look at a variance based on the economics of the infill, I I find that to be wrong.
13:01Uh you can buy more land or you can build less building.
13:04But to approve a variance based on the ability to approve improve a developer's profitability is wrong.
13:12I own a 4300 square foot home across the street.
13:15You'll devalue my property when you put six apartments on a 10,000 square foot piece of land.
13:22You can put four apartments on there, and the land value and the cost per square foot goes up, therefore keeping the value of the land up.
13:31You can build less land, you can build less property or let less building on the same property and not need the variance.
13:38Why are we asking for a 13-foot variance?
13:41We could just build a narrower building by 13-foot.
13:46What we're saying here is that the density and the ability to build higher density buildings is more important than following the ordinance that was accepted.
13:56I would just like to oppose it because the city uh where I live here at second in Detroit.
14:03I don't have an HOA, and I've stated that here before.
14:07So I relied solely on the standard, the ordinance to protect the value of my property.
14:14In fact, when I built in area five, which is the same area, I was told specifically on two occasions that I had to bring my driveway into the alley, which is a two-way alley, which by the way, are not 20 feet because the utility poles are in that alley also, and so are the other utilities.
14:32Most of those alleys are not uh clear 20 feet.
14:38So when we devalue the ordinance so that we can improve the profitability of a contractor, I just think that's wrong.
14:47We got a $700,000 house across the street that we're gonna put a driveway in 13 feet wide so that the contractor can make more money on his return on investment.
15:00And that's the analysis of the city that we're doing this for the economics of the in fill.
15:07I'm sorry you paid too much land money for your land.
15:12If you didn't pay that much, you would have to ask for the variance.
15:16Maybe that's the case.
15:17Or maybe you built cheaper.
15:20But I'd like some help.
15:22All right, thanks for your time.
15:31Other questions for applicant?
15:36Oh applicant, if you should so choose, you have a five-minute rebuttal period.
16:05So do I have to reintroduce myself?
16:11Um the issue here is simply the width of the lot itself.
16:17If we were to move to what to a 26 foot drive aisle, the building width would only be seven feet wide.
16:26We cannot construct a home of any sort at only seven feet wide.
16:35This may relate to the same question, but could the driveway width be wider than thirteen feet and still accommodate?
16:45We have a required ten foot setback at the front as well as the side.
17:05So narrowing the driveway would let you keep the required setbacks correct.
17:11And give you a deep enough building.
17:15That's why we chose the narrowing of the driveway over impeding on the setbacks.
17:25Has the developer considered putting less apartments on the property?
17:34We looked at many options in laying out this structure.
17:42Um it really is just the narrow, I mean, we're pretty much as small as we can get on the depth of that building.
17:57We did visit the idea of on-street parking on first street, and it really didn't do any better than the parking behind.
18:23Any other questions?
18:31Uh I recall from earlier meetings on this project that the fire marshal noted that he can provide access from the street.
18:39So the equipment would not need to go into the driveway.
18:57Sorry, I'll suck it.
19:04Michelle Bergwall, yes.
19:23Our next item is for B.
19:27Uh number two six-1041.
19:32Yes, this is a public hearing uh consideration and possible action regarding VAR-002917-2026 or 7 Brew Aspen.
19:431.06 acres, commercial heavy request a variance for drive.
19:48Or yes, for drive-through stacking lane placement, excuse me.
19:51Located approximately one half mile north of West Tucson Street, also known as 121st Street, and just west of South Aspen, also known as 145th East Avenue.
20:02VAR-002917-2026 is a request to allow a variance on the location of drive-thru stacking lanes for a proposed quick serve beverage facility.
20:14Section 4-2-5.2 dot D of or excuse me, let me repeat that.
20:24D.2 of the broken arrow zoning ordinance specifies that stacking spaces shall not be located between the front facade of a building and the public street upon which the building fronts.
20:36The proposed development is located on a parcel without direct vehicular access to Aspen Avenue.
20:41Access is provided through a platted mutual access easement along the rear property line.
20:47This provided access is on the western side of the property.
20:51Due to the nature of available vehicular access and the high amount of vehicle traffic associated with the proposed development, the applicant has decided to apply for a variance to allow for the stacking spaces to be in front of the proposed development.
21:05The applicant is proposing additional landscaping as seen in the conceptual landscaping plan provided.
21:11This will help to screen some of the stacking space area from Aspen Avenue while also increase increasing the aesthetics of the site.
21:18For a variance to be granted, there are four conditions that must be found by the Board of Adjustment.
21:24One, unnecessary hardship.
21:26The staff analysis is that the proposed quick serve quick survey beverage facility has two other locations in broken area, broken, and broken arrow with high traffic amounts necessitating additional stacking lanes and space.
21:40An application of the ordinance on this particular site would not allow for the stacking lanes to be on three sides as shown in the plan.
21:47Particularly due to the configuration of the lot and the location of the mutual access east.
21:52Two, unusual conditions.
21:55This parcel was platted as part of the peak development.
22:09Provides vehicular access to the businesses while meeting the driveway separation requirement along Aspen Avenue.
22:16However, this arrangement also creates a challenge in creating a functional safe functional site layout for a drive-thru facility.
22:26The staff analysis is that the requirement for stacking space location is a requirement to increase the visual compatibility of storefronts and developments along an arterial road.
22:36The proposed quick serve beverage facility is a unique business type with additional stacking space needs.
22:42The applicant is proposing additional landscaping with vertical height to reduce concerns surrounding visual compatibility.
22:49For minimum variance.
23:42John Rogers, Crafton Toll, Civil Engineer of Record on this project.
23:50As noted in the report, staff report, we've we've done a few of these seven brew here in town.
24:02And we'll apply for a seven brew remodel there.
24:07So that's in the works.
24:09And then we've got a couple taco bells that we want to build as well.
24:13So to my knowledge, this is the only variance that we've approached the city with.
24:18And it's necessary on this site.
24:22It is concurrent with the most of the development.
24:28Immediately to the north is McDonald's.
24:31It's a brand new McDonald's.
24:33And their drive-thru does wrap around the front.
24:36It's not marked with pavement markings.
24:39Their drive-thru queue will not be as long as 7 brew.
24:44But that's the vehicle traffic.
24:47That's to the north to the east across aspen, directly across from us is Chick-fil-A, and their drive-thru canopy is right there.
24:56It's right up front.
25:00And so that you know that one's right at grade with aspen, and we're quite a bit below Aspen's.
25:03Uh, those cars visually will be tucked, tucked in below aspen uh line of sight for the drivers, north and southbound.
25:11Um, and then to the south, it's a new build I noticed today.
25:14I don't know what facility or what's being built to the south immediately neighbor, but uh they're on a corner lot, so I think that they've had to ask for a variance.
25:22But uh, but yeah, their drive-throughs uh very similar to ours.
25:26Uh that that uh traffic pattern is uh passes between the frontage of the building and aspen.
25:34So appreciate your support.
25:35Um this is a vibrant business.
25:38Um, and uh we're proud to be a part of it and proud to be in Broken Arrow.
25:44I have a query, or just a clarification.
25:46So the issue is basically that the stacking lane, it's not supposed to be between the building and the main street.
25:52And that and because it is, that's where the issue arises.
25:56And the the reason for that basically is because instead of accessing from aspirin and wrapping around the back like you normally would, you have to come in from the back and wrap around the front.
26:05We we've tried so many configurations.
26:07Um we wanted to maintain the cross access with McDonald's, but exactly how you said it is the most optimum design is to have as it's projected here to have our access uh at grade with the easement to the west, um the common easement ingress egress, and then we we come in and we circulate around the building.
26:25So that provides us the maximum cue, way more than we need, uh, so we don't back out into any streets and anything anywhere close to that situation.
26:33So, yes, sir, we it places cars between the frontage of the building and Aspen Street, so that's the that's the catch.
26:43And so the trees are your um answer for the visibility of the cars.
26:50Um is there irrigation to those trees so that they can be maintained?
26:55It's not seeing that in the planning detail.
26:58We'll have detailed irrigation installed.
27:01Um, and yeah, it's very robust landscaping to offset the request here.
27:09First staff is this the plot just north of the bank.
27:17Any other questions?
27:19Thank you very much.
27:29And we do not have anybody from the public signed up to speak in regard to this item on the agenda.
27:37Uh our motion to approve.
27:41All right, motion to approve.
27:47Michelle Bergwall, yes.
27:58Third item for scene is for 26-1064.
28:06Uh VAR002932-2026 is a request to waive the minimum 2.5 acre lot size for vehicle sales and retail for a property located at the northwest corner of West Houston, East Houston Street, and Highway 51.
28:25This property currently is currently addressed as 7903 South Old Highway 51.
28:32Um, is a.45 acre site that has one access point off of old Highway 51 and Euston Street.
28:40The lot has visibility from the west side of Highway 51, but no access.
28:46Um the property does have a 169-foot setback due to the Oklahoma Turnpike Authority right-of-way along Highway 51 there.
28:57Uh the lot was originally platted in 1999 as Don Wells Auto Sales.
29:02Uh, the property is completely hard surface with a small office building on the property.
29:08The vehicle sales land use has been dormant for more than a six-month period discussed in the zoning code.
29:16Um, in order for a variance to be granted, four conditions must be met.
29:20Uh, number one, unnecessary hardship.
29:23The application of the ordinance to the particular piece of property would create unnecessary hardship.
29:29Uh staff's analysis is that staff believes the parcel has geographic constraints that impact the economic viability of the property for commercial use.
29:39Number two, unusual conditions.
29:42Such conditions are peculiar to the particular piece of property involved.
29:47Um the only access is off of old Highway 51 by Houston Street.
29:53The 169-foot setback for the OTA right-away from the new Highway 51 creates limited frontage visibility.
30:03The peculiarity of the lot presents unique challenges that impact the economic viability of the parcel.
30:11Number three, the public good relief, if granted, would not cause substantial detriment to the public good or impair the purposes and intent of the ordinance or the comprehensive plan.
30:24Staff's analysis is that the variance, if granted, would not cause substantial detriment to the public good, or impair the purposes and intent of the ordinance or the comprehensive plan.
30:37This parcel is identified as level six regional employment and commercial in the comprehensive plan.
30:45And number four, minimum variance.
30:48The variance, if granted, would be the minimum necessary to alleviate the unnecessary hardship.
30:54Allowing the platted property, uh platted as Donwell's auto sales to go back to its original use would be the minimum necessary to alleviate the unnecessary hardship.
31:13Um for vehicle sales and retail satisfies all four criteria, and therefore staff recommends that VAR 002932-2026 be approved.
31:29And I believe the um applicants is here.
31:34Would you like to speak?
31:36If you need to guys are approving on it.
31:42So uh this had been in use as a vehicle sales spot in the past, but went dormant.
31:51Uh per the zoning code.
31:52If somebody starts a new uh same type use within six months of a business closing, it's grandfathered in.
32:00Once the six months has passed, it's no longer grandfathered.
32:04Um looking at the the shape and location of the property, it's really constrained and difficult to find many uses that could operate there.
32:32Well, I'm trying, I'm trying to figure out like how parking spots I can even get.
32:36How a plot like this gets created.
32:38If you have questions, you can bring the applicant down.
32:41Would you mind coming down and we can ask you some questions?
32:50So George, I really appreciated just watching the wheels turn.
32:58Well, I mean, the first question: how did you end up with this property?
33:02Uh it was supposed to be the millionth pot shop for the city, which you know we needed.
33:07Um, and the licensing had changed, and so they couldn't get a license, and at that point it just was sitting for sale.
33:14Um, we have a real estate office that we've outgrown, and so I've grown up here, and as a kid, it's always been a car lot.
33:21So I thought, you know, what we put it up for lease for somebody that makes the most sense for it to be a car lot, but of course we need a variance.
33:29Um just not a whole lot other things that you could really do with it outside of just a retail space.
33:36So that's why we applied.
33:37We don't necessarily at this point we're really in a lot of limbo on what we're going to do.
33:42So even if you approve our variance, I can't say for sure it would be.
33:45Maybe I'm not supposed to say that.
33:48But um that's why we're here.
33:50Can you just tell us your name for the record?
33:58About how many parking spaces are on the property?
34:01Are you aware of that?
34:04The way we've got it measured out.
34:06I know you said it's 169 feet.
34:08I would imagine you could fit 30 to 40 cars there lined up along the fence.
34:14Um, when we have a full office meeting, we'll maybe have 12 to 15 cars with tons of space.
34:27You may not know the answer to this.
34:28Was the property originally deeper before the OTA?
34:34Uh I don't know the answer to that.
34:36I do have just several pictures that I've dated from Google Earth back to 99, and I've counted.
34:43I mean, you can see, I can show you if you'd like to pass it around, but please absolutely 20 something cars here, and then we'll see whatever they've got here.
34:54So this is that's back to 02 all the way to 2019 when it probably changed over.
35:05It's literally a concrete triangle.
35:09And you asking like so many questions.
35:11How did it end up that way?
35:12I mean, I th and I think you guys would all agree, just things start to tighten up over the years.
35:18And so it's been like that for forever.
35:21I remember it being Henry's auto sales when I was in high school, which would have been 02 to 04.
35:26I knew the the owner's son.
35:28Um so that's all it had ever been until they tried to make it the other dispensary, and then it just sat.
35:38Jane, what zoning is this in?
35:42I don't see where it says that.
35:49Turn my microphone off.
35:51While they're looking that up, uh you had said you're not sure if you're going with the car lot.
35:55That's what this variance is here for today.
35:57So if it's for something else, then you'd be in a non-corum use.
36:00Just want you to be aware of that for the future.
36:05I would I not have the option to stay like we are.
36:09We could always undo the variance, perhaps, but that's what the variance here today is for.
36:13Okay, so just and we would like to proceed with that.
36:16Okay, yes, that's just that's just the scope of what we're here for today.
36:20But that does break the bring the question if we approve this today and they don't start a car lot within six months, then do they have to come back again, Jane?
36:31We have several several inquiries.
36:33Okay, but I couldn't proceed, obviously, until I have your blessing.
36:37And so I let them all know, hey, you know, that's great, but until we go through this process, we're kind of in limbo.
36:46So this is uh level six in the comprehensive plan, which is regional employment and commercial, and the zoning is CH commercial heavy.
36:59So I think the Miss Bergwal's question, if this was approved, you would have a car dealership up and running in six months.
37:06I'm sure we could accommodate that, yes, sir.
37:13Any other questions?
37:18Just to my question, if we didn't have a car lot up and going in six months, I don't want to be a car dealer.
37:24But that like I said, it just made the most sense for me to be a landlord for that.
37:28But if that didn't happen, it would just revert back to heavy retail.
37:34If I heard the zone just typically the variance expires if you don't use it for what it's for.
37:39So I just getting educated, it's always interesting to sit down.
37:42Yeah, it doesn't change the actual zoning of it.
37:47Thank you very much.
37:55Oh, I'll motion to approve.
38:20That concludes the uh public hearing portion of our meeting.
38:26Uh item number five, general board business.
38:31Do we have any not that I'm aware of?
38:38Uh any other inquiries, comments.
38:46There's a motion to adjourn.
38:47A motion to adjourn.