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Casper City Council Regular Meeting - July 21, 2026

City CouncilTuesday, July 21, 2026
BodyCasper, Wyoming
SessionCity Council
DateTuesday, July 21, 2026
StatusNEW · FILED
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0:03

Good evening, everybody.

0:05

Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone to silence your cell phones.

0:09

Council meetings are live streamed on the city's YouTube channel.

0:12

I now call the July 20 21st, 2026 regular council meeting to order.

0:17

All council members are present.

0:19

Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.

0:26

I put the defense to the fire of the United States of America.

0:31

And to the Republic for which it stands.

0:34

One nation.

0:38

Liberty and Justice Crawl.

0:49

Please read the consent minute approval titles.

0:51

Approving the minutes of the July 7th, 2026 regular council meeting and the July 7th, 2026 executive session.

0:58

Thank you.

0:58

The chair would entertain a motion to approve the consent minute action agenda items just read.

1:05

Move by the vice mayor, seconded by counselor Haskins.

1:08

Any abstentions?

1:10

Please cast your vote.

1:15

Please record the vote.

1:17

With all counselors voting aye, the motion passes.

1:21

The chair entertained a motion to approve by minute action the July 21st, 2026.

1:25

General bills and claims is audited by city manager Jordan.

1:29

So moved.

1:30

Move by Councillor Pollock, seconded by Councillor Bond.

1:33

Any abstentions?

1:35

Please cast your vote.

1:39

Please record the vote.

1:40

With all counselors voting aye, the motion passes.

1:42

The chair would entertain a motion to approve by minute action the July 21st, 2026.

1:47

Conflict claims as audited by city manager Jordan.

1:51

So move.

1:52

Second.

1:53

Move by Councillor McIntosh, seconded by Councillor Pollock.

1:56

Any abstentions.

2:06

Got an abstention.

2:06

I think you're on there too.

2:07

You'll understand.

2:08

Okay.

2:09

Did you get those?

2:10

Okay.

2:10

Thank you.

2:12

Please cast your vote.

2:20

Please record the vote.

2:22

With counselors Larson and Macintosh abstaining and all others voting aye, the motion passes.

2:27

So now is the time that we invite anyone in the audience who wishes to speak with the council to come forward.

2:32

This portion of the meeting is dedicated to the public and allow them time to discuss matters of public interest and to voice any concerns.

2:39

We do ask that you please state your name, direct all questions and comments to the mayor.

2:43

No personal obscenities or threats will be tolerated.

2:45

Council will not respond to any personnel matters.

2:48

Those will all be referred to our city manager.

2:50

Councillors may clear may ask clarifying questions, but if they choose to respond to the matters, they will do so during the scheduled council response following communications from persons present.

3:01

Presentations are limited to five minutes and there are no due uh time extensions.

3:06

Please note that public hearings and ordinances each have their own separate comment periods.

3:12

Also, please speak over the microphone rather than directly into it to help prevent audio feedback.

3:17

It's pretty sensitive.

3:19

So yeah, come on up.

3:23

Good evening.

3:24

Thanks for your allowing us to share.

3:26

This is my colleague Rachel Pryor.

3:28

My name is Jason Merrick.

3:29

We work for Central Wyoming Counseling Center and we're part of the mobile crisis team.

3:33

Um we kind of want to get to know everybody, just let you know who we are.

3:37

I know we've talked a couple of times at council meetings, but uh we're really feel like we're getting some traction and we're ready to uh go up to the big leagues, I guess you could say, with uh the PD and the fire department and the EMS, and we'd really like to be part of that communication lines of communication strategies that we're open to ideas and thoughts from various departments on how that would look.

4:00

Um we have some ideas of our own, but we just want to put it out there that that we're here and we're ready to take calls.

4:08

We service all of Casper, all of Mills and Evanston, and we've even been to the old Neutronic County.

4:15

Yeah, we expanded into Glen Rock and Douglas now as well.

4:18

So yeah, and and we're mobile, so we address uh mental health crisis, we look at drug overdoses, we look at people uh possible suicide idea suicidal ideations.

4:30

Um if we were dispatched to a first response a scene with first responders, you know, we would ask that the scene be you know determined safe for civilians to come on and uh that there is actually a need for some de-escalation or for some services.

4:45

We have the capability to to help with titling folks if that's needed.

4:51

We also have access to all of our city's resources.

4:54

We can transport to the mission to WBI to CWCC.

5:00

We we assess the situation, we determine what resources are most appropriate, and then we make we make contact and and get the person what they need.

5:06

Uh, right now we are up.

5:08

We're kind of operating in the bankers' hours realm.

5:11

Um we hope to expand into some later hours in the evening and through the night.

5:15

Um, but we are functional on weekends as well.

5:18

So seven days, we just we just kind of grew into that um into that time frame.

5:23

So about about 10 in the morning until uh eight or eight until 10 at night.

5:29

10 or 11.

5:30

10 or 11 at night, depending on the day of the week.

5:32

Um, but we'd love it if uh if we could get plugged in.

5:36

If you have any ideas, any thoughts on on what how we could do that?

5:39

We'd love to answer any questions that you might have, uh, leave some contact information if if you'd like.

5:45

Uh and that's that's what we do.

5:47

Awesome.

5:48

Thank you so much.

5:49

Anybody have any questions, comments?

5:51

Councilor Sweeney.

5:53

Thank you, Mayor.

5:54

Thanks for being here.

5:56

Um, funding.

5:58

Um, maybe city manager or Eric could remind me.

6:04

Is part of this out of the opioid uh funds, or was that a different pot of money?

6:12

I don't think I can answer that question.

6:14

I'm not I'm not quite sure.

6:16

Eric, do you know?

6:17

Um, so mayor counsel.

6:19

Um, I do know that Central Army Counseling Center was part of the one Netrona application.

6:23

Um, they were awarded opioid money, how those entities uh split that money amongst the four.

6:30

Um, I couldn't tell you.

6:31

Um so the short answer is is no.

6:34

I don't know if opioid funding is being utilized to directly fund this uh project.

6:43

Great question.

6:43

Sorry, we don't have an answer.

6:44

Uh mayor, we can certainly run down the um city's uh contribution and and share that with the council after the meeting.

6:50

Yeah, that would be great.

6:51

Happy to do that.

6:52

Thank you.

6:53

Any other comments?

6:55

Thank you guys so much.

6:56

Thank you for the work that you're doing.

6:57

It's incredibly difficult and challenging.

7:00

And we certainly do have mental health um crisis, I think, in our not only in our community, but our state and our and in uh this country.

7:07

So thank you for your continued work.

7:08

I know it's not easy.

7:09

Mr.

7:09

Mayor, can I ask one please question?

7:12

Absolutely.

7:12

Um we we've been working on an MOU from our side to with uh City of Mills, Casper, and Evanston.

7:19

I was wondering if there's Evansville, sorry, and if I was wondering if there's someone on your team that we could work with to maybe fine-tune something that the city may consider.

7:28

Yeah, absolutely.

7:29

Um we'll have our city manager take care, um, work with you guys if you want to give her your information.

7:34

Sure, that would be fantastic.

7:36

Thank you.

7:37

Mayor, if I might.

7:39

Um, I actually have that MOU in my office for review.

7:42

I've been working with uh fire department um Captain Spicer, I think, and there was some concerns around scope of practice and state statutes.

7:49

So you guys are working on it right now.

7:50

So we are working on it.

7:51

Um, yeah, if there's additional information, I think uh they can reach out to to the fire department, certainly the city manager as well.

7:57

Um how to reach me.

7:59

Perfect.

8:00

So it sounds like they're in the process of also working on it.

8:02

We'll have our city manager and our city attorney and fire department stay in touch with you guys.

8:07

Thank you so much.

8:07

Appreciate it.

8:08

Thank you.

8:09

Any others who wish to come and speak.

8:14

Good evening.

8:16

Hello.

8:18

My name is Stan State.

8:20

I have been a chiropractor and a member of the small business community in Casper for 45 years, and at my current location at 223 South Kenwood Street for 42 years.

8:29

There has always been harmony and respect between businesses and residents on Kenwood for decades.

8:34

Stirrups has shown nothing but contempt and disrespect to the neighborhood and businesses.

8:39

Since I spoke to this console on March 17th, the situation is worsened despite damage control by the city.

8:46

I had resigned myself to a new norm.

8:48

I modified my office hours and scheduled patients during sternup's non-peak hours.

8:53

I was willing to put up with the relentless traffic congestion.

8:57

Now 7 a.m.

8:58

to 9 p.m.

8:59

seven days a week with relentless U-turns, blocking sidewalks, air quality from idling traffic, rudeness of their customers, and excessive noise from idling trucks and music.

9:09

You can literally sing the song within my office.

9:12

Prior to June 29th, David and Ari never parked in front of my business, nor did their employees.

9:18

On June 29th, that changed.

9:20

Whatever occurred in their heads on that date, they decided to target my business and by extension my patients.

9:26

They began to park their vehicles as well as instructing their employees to park in front of my business to restrict or block patient access.

9:35

Those vehicles those vehicles would remain for extended periods of time during the working hours and employee shifts.

9:42

The differences they have with the city in lot two have nothing to do with me.

9:46

If you know what was magical about June 29th, let me know.

9:51

They clearly have alternatives.

9:53

There are five public parking spaces on the west side of the street and four parking spaces on their premises that they choose not to use for themselves or for their employees.

10:02

They choose to use the east side public parking, limiting parking to swans and my business.

10:08

There are three public parking spaces in front of my business, and for 42 years, I have never had any issues until David and Ari came along.

10:16

The community had respect for the nature of my business.

10:19

The elderly, disabled, and impaired had unencumbered access to my business.

10:31

I believe I'm entitled to your opinion as to the activity and the behavior that you observe.

10:36

I need to know what kind of community I live in, and if this behavior and activity is acceptable.

10:41

To date, the neighborhood and businesses have little empathy or advocacy.

10:45

I'm seeking advice from community leaders and organizations that purport to support small business as well as small business owners and the public at large.

10:54

I'm willing to present the videos to board of directors, small business owners, and the public at large.

10:59

If your business or neighborhood were being subjected to this activity and behavior, what would your advice be?

11:05

These videos need to be reviewed with the lens of intent.

11:09

The videos speak for themselves.

11:11

You can render your own opinion.

11:13

In my opinion, they're clearly revealed the intent to harass, intimidate, restrict, bully, and block patient access to my business.

11:21

How about reviewing the videos within the lens of ethics and morality?

11:25

Who does that?

11:26

Who intentionally restricts and recruits their employees to rick restrict access to the elderly, disabled, and impaired to a health for health care facility?

11:36

In my opinion, there is a malicious intent to harm my business, and their employees are actively participating.

11:41

I grow weary of Dave and Ari portraying themselves as victims.

11:45

Make no mistake, the surrounding businesses and neighborhood are the victims, not stirrups and their customers.

11:51

They are at best inconvenienced where the surrounding businesses enabled are being harmed.

11:56

God forbid if their leases renewed, only for the neighborhood to suffer for decades to come.

12:01

They are masters of self-promotion and social media.

12:04

They have a loyal and devoted customer base.

12:07

No doubt after expressing my views tonight, I will be doxed, and their loyal filing will target my business.

12:12

They have no intention of being good neighbors.

12:15

Thank you.

12:17

Any questions from Mr.

12:19

State?

12:21

Yeah, go ahead, Councilor Sweeney.

12:25

Come back in here, Dan.

12:26

Mr.

12:27

Pat's got a question for you.

12:28

Thank you, Mayor.

12:29

So my hearing is just as poor now as it was on the 17th.

12:34

So I tonight, and I appreciate you showing me the videos a week or two ago.

12:44

And uh I am concerned in hopefully we can come to some sort of resolution.

12:52

But then won't.

12:54

So is the parking situation continued or no?

12:59

They continue.

13:00

Ari parked the truck out front yesterday, and I've got video of allies of theirs removing the post.

13:10

Um the delineator post, split the entrance.

13:14

And that's important to um Archie's and the back shack.

13:21

Because that parking on the west side is the only parking they have for their for their customers.

13:28

So they need to need to be out of to be able to exit onto Kenwood.

13:32

And I've got pictures of David running over the delineator post with this truck.

13:37

I've got pictures of Ari with her forerunner running over the post with uh, you know, with her uh with her vehicle, and again, the the guys coming up in tip pulling out the post, throwing it against the side of the fence, and then Chris, they apparently Archie's and VAC Shack have ours on Sunday.

13:56

So Chris, the owner of Archie's and VAC Shack, he came out and put the post back in, and it's been there ever since.

14:02

There's magic marker on there now on the post.

14:05

I don't know what it says, but somebody took the magic marker, and there's some sort of language on it about hit me or something like that.

14:12

I mean, a lot of times people don't, they don't have no, they don't have any respect for that.

14:17

They don't stay in the right-hand lane to the right of the post.

14:20

They go through the exit because they have a hard time making that left-hand turn to square up to the window, but they do.

14:28

They're capable of doing that, they just don't want to do that.

14:32

So um, but I welcome the show the videos to anybody who wants to, you know.

14:36

I don't the videos speak for themselves.

14:39

I don't have to narrate them.

14:40

But uh to me, it's just horrific.

14:43

Who treats people like that?

14:44

Okay, Mr.

14:45

State, I'm gonna hold you there for a second, okay?

14:47

We we've heard you, and we're just gonna hold it there for a second.

14:51

Okay, this way.

14:52

Okay, thank you.

14:52

Appreciate it.

14:58

Anyone else who wishes to come and speak.

15:11

Good evening.

15:12

Hi uh David Starsevich, I don't I don't have a statement, but uh I speak for stirrups.

15:19

Um I've presented you guys a lot of data information.

15:23

Um I'm here to answer any questions.

15:28

anybody have any questions for David?

15:34

Sound more why are you?

15:39

I have one.

15:40

Okay, go ahead.

15:41

Why are you running over if he adds videos?

15:43

What do you have with the delineator posts?

15:45

What's that now?

15:46

What's the problem you have with a delineator post?

15:49

Yeah, it inhibits the access to our lot, which is labeled lot one on the plat.

15:54

Um that Kenwood access is actually a sole easement for our property.

15:59

Uh no one else has the right to use that property above our customers, labeled on the plat as sole use for lot one.

16:06

Um so when our custom customers uh are inhibited to accessing that property, um that's that's not okay.

16:14

If you read the flats, it actually shows uh zero for the city to cross that anyway.

16:22

The only thing it shows is a utility easement, so we don't understand how they're trying to turn it into a two-way traffic.

16:30

It isn't there's nowhere on that access exists solely for lot one's access to lot one's property.

16:36

That is what the easement is for.

16:38

It says it on the plat that you guys have in the county registration.

16:44

Other questions, I go ahead.

16:48

Yeah, absolutely.

16:49

So why what's the hesitation of being good neighbors and utilize let in the house?

16:55

I have no, I have no hesitation in being a good neighbor.

16:58

Um, we we've been accommodating from this from the beginning.

17:02

Unfortunately, um we've we've been put in a position now where we are trying to defend ourselves and our business and our livelihood.

17:12

Um recently, you know, the the actions that the city staff and the council has made to make Archie the city parking lot there unavailable to us.

17:22

Our people don't have anywhere to park.

17:24

We do not have four spots on lot one.

17:27

We have a drive-thru and an exit lane.

17:30

We've blacked out the the parking spaces, those are not parking spaces.

17:34

Our people don't have anywhere to park.

17:36

We they were parking in the lot, they weren't inhibiting any access to swans or to um's place.

17:44

Um when we watched this council meeting and we were informed that your intent is to license or to sign agreements with people, certain private entities for the access to that public lot.

17:56

We just had our girls park somewhere else, and those lots are public parking, they are not private parking.

18:02

So our girls have just as much right to use them as anybody else does along with the street parking, along with the street parking.

18:12

So you're not intentionally trying to where would you well just make it a question?

18:17

Where would you like me to because of your arguments with him?

18:20

I'm not arguing.

18:20

I'm not I have not once argued with any of them about anything.

18:24

I'm arguing with the city staff.

18:28

I don't I don't have an argument with any of my neighbors.

18:30

They are coming to you guys, you guys are coming to me.

18:33

I'm doing my best to be accommodating while at the same time defending my my business and my livelihood.

18:38

I've got three young children.

18:40

This is how we make money.

18:41

Yes, I I am pushy at this point because after four or five months, you know, we've we've been dogged pretty hard.

18:48

We've been dogged in the newspaper, we've been dogged at city council for a number of months now.

18:53

Um, I don't like handling stuff like this in public.

18:56

This is not like me to make public comments.

18:59

I've tried to contact everyone here privately.

19:02

I've tried to do my due diligence the best I can and come up with logical arguments.

19:07

Nothing I'm saying is emotional in any way.

19:10

Um but you know, the logic says that I have a right to access my property via Kenwood.

19:17

My girls have a right to park on public parking to go to the place that they work.

19:21

You know, we we have well over 50 employees.

19:24

We're we're you know, we get we have a lot going on that we provide to the community, and to be treated like this and to be kind of shuffled off to the side is aggravating.

19:41

So I guess my question is uh in one of the videos that I saw, I don't know the exact date, but when you go downtown and park, say on second street, you typically uh with your truck, do you typically park um outside the lines and take up two parking spots?

20:09

If the back of my truck is at risk, yes.

20:11

The length of those parking spots are insufficient for perpendicular parking.

20:16

Um they are sufficient for small cars, um, but they are not sufficient for trucks, and so I do not want to inhibit traffic leaving Kenwood on to second.

20:26

I do not want damage to the back of my truck, and I have been told that I can't park in the city parking lot.

20:32

Watching your city council meetings, that's the that's the inference I'm making.

20:36

So where else would you like me to park?

20:38

How would you like me to park safely?

20:40

I have a longer truck, those are short parking spots.

20:47

So you're you're totally um making stuff up, Dave.

20:54

And so in being totally disrespectful to your neighbors, and so and will you know the city uh attorney may want to uh address your inferences on the ease, but but it's not inferences, it's on the document.

21:15

It sure is.

21:17

I've seen the document, but it doesn't mean what we're doing.

21:20

And it's not my property.

21:21

If you have an issue with the document and the plating, you need to take that out with the Talberts.

21:26

I'm leasing the property.

21:27

If you would like to involve the Talberts in this conversation, I'm more than happy to involve them.

21:32

Um they're they're aware of the situation at this point.

21:35

Um they have rights to access that property, and those rights have are at least to us right now.

21:45

Go ahead, Vice Mayor.

21:47

Thank you, Mayor.

21:48

Uh thanks uh David for uh coming to speak.

21:52

We'll see if a question comes of it.

21:54

Uh, but you mentioned you had reached out uh personally, and I I can't speak for the rest of the council.

21:58

I know you called me twice, so I do apologize for not uh answering those phone calls or giving you a phone call back.

22:03

I'll admit I've been overwhelmed personally, professionally, just limited bandwidth lately.

22:07

And I felt like some of my colleagues were kind of taking point on this, so I I felt like I could uh kind of remove myself from the fray, but um I do appreciate uh you and Dan both coming to speak tonight.

22:19

I think you you know uh a number of you guys have been very articulate in your um kind of laying out of concerns, and uh you've done certainly a lot of research.

22:29

I really appreciate all the citations you provide and uh the images and stuff like that.

22:34

So uh I just want to let you know I do really appreciate what people provide really robust um substantial kind of emails and phone calls to us.

22:43

My I guess my question is uh as somebody who has um not taken the opportunity to more fully inform myself on this issue.

22:53

In your opinion, um what outstanding items are left, what what solutions would you like to see from the city?

23:00

Um how do you what do you think the path forward is on this as somebody who at this point in time with my limited knowledge does not know what the silver bullet solution is to this problem?

23:10

Well, this is why we're here today, and I am here to just defend our position at this point because we don't have a list of things that we want.

23:20

The things that are being asked for are from everybody else, and they're being granted at our expense.

23:26

And at this point, we you know, we asked just to take a pause a while ago and let things blow over to let things simmer and to go away.

23:36

Um, when we watch these meetings and we're informed that the parking lot that our girls have been using to park and go to work is now going to be, you know, there's gonna be agreements signed to private entities to use a public lot that are going to disallow parking for us there, so we have to move over here.

23:51

Well, automatically we get made the bad guy.

23:54

You heard very clearly from Dan that now we're the bad guys, and we're reacting to what we hear here.

24:00

Well, the city staff, the information they've presented to us.

24:03

We're we're reacting to what is being given to us.

24:07

Nothing we're doing is out of malice or emotional or anything like that.

24:11

We are reacting to what we're hearing here and what the city staff is presenting us.

24:17

That that's all we can do.

24:19

I don't have a I I'm not acting in any malice in any way.

24:27

So we're open to suggestions in the how would you how would you like what would you like me to ask for?

24:32

What would you like me to do?

24:34

If I could speak for a second.

24:36

This is both for the local the businesses and and for you guys.

24:40

We've met many times.

24:42

I've met with the so I'm gonna put this on the record.

24:44

I I've met with the staff and council one time, right?

24:48

I hear you and I like to get out of hand because I don't want this to happen publicly per se.

24:54

But I but I think the city staff has spent a multiple hours over that area.

25:00

Would that be is that safe to say at not at my ask?

25:01

Not at my bequest.

25:02

No, I'm not saying that.

25:03

Okay.

25:04

Have they been there many, many times?

25:06

Yes or no?

25:07

Yeah.

25:08

Okay.

25:08

Okay constantly.

25:09

A lot of harassment to my team during business hours.

25:11

And then we're hearing harassment from Dan.

25:14

We're doing that.

25:14

But the point that I want to make tonight is that we are, and we have been trying to work with you guys.

25:20

Well, no, in good David, in good faith, but but you made you made the implication, and Dan and others have made the implication that the city is not doing anything, and that is wrong.

25:31

No, no, I'm not saying they're not doing anything.

25:33

I'm saying that I'm reacting to what the city is doing.

25:35

Because we're trying, because we're Dave, we're trying to figure this out, and it's incredibly complicated.

25:40

And I would prefer that we sit down and have these conversations.

25:44

I've asked.

25:47

I've asked.

25:48

I have not asked in public.

25:50

Everything that I've brought to you guys has been very private and respectful.

25:53

I don't go around showing videos of my neighbors or pictures of my neighbors.

25:57

I I'm not that guy.

25:58

I've asked to meet with you guys privately.

26:00

I've asked to have this conversation privately, and I've been ignored.

26:03

I don't want to do this possible.

26:05

David, you and I have talked several times on the telephone.

26:07

I've talked with you and Ari, and I said, we're trying to figure this out.

26:10

I've said, give us time, give us patience, be patient.

26:13

We're trying to figure this out.

26:14

And it's the same thing with our with the neighbors as well.

26:17

The city is caught in the middle of this trying to figure out it's the city's problem.

26:21

They made this mess.

26:22

Okay, we're done.

26:24

Thank you.

26:24

Thank you.

26:35

Anyone else?

26:39

Okay, now is the time that council has any responses.

26:42

Um I'm gonna open that up.

26:52

Okay, let's move on.

26:58

Please read the consent agenda titles.

27:07

Establish August 4th, 2026 as a public hearing date for consideration of an ordinance amending sections 08.140 and 5.08.260 of the Casper Municipal Code and a resolution approving the downtown urban renewal project.

27:23

Thank you.

27:24

The chair would entertain a motion two by minute action, establish the public hearing dates just read.

27:29

So move.

27:29

Second moved by counselor McIntosh, seconded by Councillor Haskins.

27:33

Any abstentions or nay votes?

27:35

Please cast your vote.

27:40

Oh please record the vote.

27:46

With all counselors voting aye, the motion passes.

27:54

Of an ordinance approving an annexation, annexation agreement and zoning for property located on Brian Evansville Road.

28:02

Uh Mr.

28:02

City Attorney, do you have any exhibits?

28:04

Thank you, Mayor.

28:04

I do exhibit number one correspondence from Liz Becker to Janine Jordan, dated July 8th, 2026.

28:10

Exhibit number two, affidavit of publication from the Casper Star Tribune, dated July 2nd, 2026.

28:18

Mayor, no.

28:19

Um all information is in your packet, including exhibits.

28:22

Thank you so much.

28:23

Councilman I'll listen to public comments.

28:25

Public hearing comments are limited to five minutes, and no duplication to speakers will be allowed.

28:31

At this time, I would ask those individuals who wish to speak in favor of this ordinance to please approach the letter.

28:37

Anyone who wishes to speak in favor.

28:43

Good evening.

28:44

Evening.

29:04

And so with the improvements being done to Brian Evansville, we figured this would be a good time to proceed with upping the infrastructure and making everything kosher.

29:17

So I am for sure for the annexation.

29:23

Any questions?

29:24

Yeah, go ahead.

29:25

Counselor Sweet.

29:28

Thanks for coming.

29:30

Um I didn't get a clear answer in my mind, but the lots um in the parcels next to you to the east.

29:42

Are those already in the city, as far as you know?

29:47

To the west.

29:48

To the west.

29:49

To the east of me is Knife River, Knife Rivers Gravel Pit, and I believe they're in the town of Evansville.

29:57

But to the west.

29:58

Okay.

30:00

Yeah, so there were I have two properties, and then another neighbor has another property in front of me, right off of Brian Evansville.

30:08

We were the only three lots that were zoned county.

30:13

And then Mayor, if you're good back behind you there on Erford.

30:20

Um in the city already.

30:23

Okay.

30:24

Okay.

30:25

Perfect.

30:25

Thanks so much.

30:26

You're welcome.

30:28

Other questions.

30:30

Okay, great.

30:31

Thank you, sir.

30:31

Appreciate your time.

30:32

Thank you for coming up.

30:35

Any others who wish to speak in favor of this ordinance?

30:39

All right.

30:40

This time I would ask those individuals who wish to speak in opposition to the ordinance to please approach the lectern.

30:46

Anyone in opposition?

30:49

There being no one, um, no others to speak for or against the ordinance.

30:52

I now declare the public hearing closed.

30:54

Please read the ordinance by title only.

31:01

An ordinance approving an annexation annexation agreement and zoning for 4.2 acres more or less described as Brian Stinkle Lot 7.

31:10

PT commercial located at 2585 and 2595 Brian Evansville Road.

31:16

Chair to entertain a motion to approve on first reading the ordinance just read.

31:21

Move by Councillor Sweeney, seconded by Counselor Bond.

31:24

Any discussion from the council?

31:27

Okay, please cast your vote.

31:33

Please record the vote.

31:34

With all counselors voting aye, the motion passes.

31:38

I now declare the public hearing open for the consideration of an ordinance approving a vacation, final plat, subdivision agreement, and zone change for Robinson Road, edition number two subdivision.

31:49

Mr.

31:49

City Attorney, do you have any exhibits?

31:51

Thank you, Mayor.

31:52

I do.

31:52

Exhibit number one, correspondence from Liz Becker to Janine Jordan dated July 10th, 2026.

31:58

Exhibit number two, affidavit of publication from the Casper Star Tribune dated July 2nd, 2026.

32:05

Thank you.

32:05

Madam City Manager, do you have anything?

32:07

Uh no, Mayor.

32:08

The aforementioned memo includes all of the information you need.

32:11

Thank you.

32:11

Council will now listen to public comment.

32:13

Public hearing comments are limited to five minutes, and no duplication of speakers are allowed.

32:17

At this time, I would ask those individuals who wish to speak in favor of this ordinance to please come forward.

32:24

Anybody who wish to speak in favor.

33:11

Questions?

33:12

Any questions?

33:15

Okay.

33:15

Thank you, sir.

33:16

Appreciate it.

33:17

Thank you.

33:20

This time I would ask those individuals who wish to speak in opposition to the ordinance to please approach the lectern.

33:26

Anybody in opposition.

33:29

Okay.

33:30

There being no others to speak for or against the ordinance.

33:32

I now declare the public hearing closed.

33:34

Please read the ordinance by title only.

33:40

An ordinance approving a vacation, final plot, subdivision agreement, and zone change for the Robertson Roadish edition number two subdivision in the city of Casper, Wyoming.

33:50

Thank you.

33:51

The chair doesn't entertain a motion to approve on first reading the ordinance just read.

33:55

So moved.

33:56

Moved by Councillor Pollock, seconded by Councillor Mackintosh.

33:59

Any discussion from the council.

34:02

Please cast your vote.

34:06

Please record the vote.

34:07

With all counselors voting aye, the motion passes.

34:21

We'll give a moment for Councillor Pollock to step out.

34:29

Mr.

34:30

City Attorney, do you have any exhibits?

34:32

Thank you, Mayor.

34:32

I do.

34:33

Exhibit number one, correspondence from FLERG uh Tremble to Janine Jordan, dated June 30th, 2026.

34:39

Exhibit number four, liquor license application filed with the city clerk on June 18th, 2026.

34:45

Zibit number three, affidavit of publication from the Casper Star Tribune, dated July 15th, 2026.

34:51

Exhibit number two, affidavit of website publication dated July 21st, 2026.

34:56

Thank you.

35:00

Um no, Mayor.

35:00

Just uh other, I would note that the establishment, of course, is located downtown at second Walcott, and if approved, the license holder will need to complete a small renovation to the dispensing area.

35:10

And when they finish that work, then with your approval, the license would be issued.

35:14

Great.

35:14

Thank you.

35:15

Council will now listen to public comments.

35:17

Public hearing comments are limited to five minutes, and no duplication of speakers will be allowed.

35:21

This time I ask those individuals to wish to speak in favor of the new restaurant liquor license number 55 to please approach the lecture.

35:28

Anybody in favor?

35:32

Okay, at this time I would ask those individuals who wish to speak in opposition to the new uh restaurant liquor license number 55 to please approach the lecturer.

35:40

Anybody in opposition?

35:44

There being no one to speak for or against the restaurant liquor license number 55.

35:48

I now declare the public hearing closed.

35:50

The chair to entertain a motion to approve the application, new uh restaurant liquor license number 55, Brooke Bond Casper, LLC, doing business as City Works Cafe, located at 162 South Walcott.

36:06

Moved by Councillor Mackintosh, seconded by Councilor Haskins.

36:10

Any discussion from the council.

36:14

Okay, please cast your vote.

36:19

Please record the vote.

36:21

With councillor Pollock abstaining and all others voting aye, the motion passes.

36:27

And now declare the public hearing open for the consideration of an application for a new restaurant liquor license number 54 for Frida's House Mexican food.

36:36

Mr.

36:36

City Attorney, do you have any exhibits?

36:38

Thank you, Mayor.

36:38

I do.

36:39

Exhibit number one, correspondence from Fleur Tremble to Janine Jordan, dated June 30th, 2026.

36:45

Exhibit number four, liquor license application, filed with the city clerk on June 12, 2026.

36:50

Exhibit number three, affidavit of publication from the Casper Star Tribune, dated July 15th, 2026.

36:56

Exhibit number two, affidavit of website publication dated July 21st, 2026.

37:01

Thank you.

37:02

Madam City Manager, do you have anything to report on this?

37:04

Nothing additional, Mayor.

37:05

Thank you.

37:06

Council will now listen to public comments.

37:08

Public hearing comments are limited to five minutes and no duplication of speakers are allowed.

37:12

At this time, I would ask any individual who wish to speak in favor of the new restaurant liquor license number 54 to please approach the lecture.

37:19

Anybody in favor?

37:22

At this time, I would ask those individuals who wish to speak in opposition to new uh restaurant liquor license number 54 to please approach the lecturer.

37:30

Anybody in opposition.

37:34

There being no one to speak for or against the red restaurant liquor license number 54, and I'll declare the public hearing closed.

37:41

The chair would entertain a motion to approve the application.

37:44

New restaurant liquor license number 54, Frida's Mexican restaurant of Casper LLC, doing business as Frida's House Mexican food located at 350 Southeast Wyoming Boulevard.

37:58

Moved by Councillor McIntosh, seconded by Councillor Jensen.

38:02

Any discussion.

38:05

Okay, please cast your vote.

38:12

Please record the vote.

38:13

With councillor Pollock abstaining and all others voting aye, the motion passes.

38:17

Thank you.

38:20

Wait for counselor.

38:22

There she is.

38:35

Please read the ordinance on second reading by title only.

38:39

An ordinance approving a vacation and replat, final plat and zone change for the Shepherd of the Hills edition subdivision in the city of Casper, Wyoming.

38:47

Thank you.

38:48

The chair doesn't attend a motion to approve on second reading the ordinance just read.

38:53

Moved by Councillor Mackintosh, seconded by Councilor Pollock.

38:56

Council will now listen to public comment.

38:59

Anybody wish to speak to this?

39:01

Second reading.

39:04

Okay.

39:05

Any discussion from the council.

39:07

Please cast your vote.

39:14

Please record the vote.

39:15

With all counselors voting aye, the motion passes.

39:18

Council will now consider consent resolution.

39:22

Please read the consent resolutions by title only.

39:25

9A1, adopting the Downtown Hotel Hotel Urban Renewal Plan.

39:30

982, authorizing an agreement between the City of Casper and Butler Snow LLP for disclosure counsel for the issuance of municipal debt.

39:38

983, authorizing an agreement between the City of Casper and Hathaway and Coons for bond counsel for the issuance of municipal debt.

39:46

984, authorizing a contract with Kinsco LLC to supply the City of Casper Fire EMS department with uniform services in the amount of 475,000 for five years.

40:01

Authorizing a contract for professional services for transit services for Netrona County for fiscal year 2027.

40:09

9A6, rescinding resolution number 26-100, which accepted a waterline easement with the Jerry Lee Human Successor Revocable Living Trust and the KLM, Successor Revocable Living Trust, as part of the fiscal year 26 priority water main improvements, track two of South Garden Creek Acres number three.

40:30

9A7, authorizing an agreement with GW Mechanical Incorporated for the City City Hall Chiller Replacement Project.

40:37

988, authorizing an agreement with JTR Excavation LLC for the Wolf Creek Drainage Repair at North Platte River.

40:45

989, authorizing a contract for professional services with Hein Bond Architects LLC for the Holgadon Structural and Plumbing Repairs Project.

40:54

9810 authorizing the fiscal year 2027 contract for services to victims of crime between the state of Wyoming Office of the Attorney General, Division of Victim Services, and City of Casper Police Department.

41:08

9A11 authorizing a grant award agreement between the Wyoming Office of Homeland Security and the City of Casper to purchase software to enhance the city's cybersecurity capabilities.

41:19

9A12 authorizing acceptance of a Wyoming Office of Homeland Security Regional Response Team Training Grant in the amount of 10,300.

41:28

9A13, authorizing acceptance of a Wyoming Office of Homeland Security Regional Response Team Equipment Grant in the amount of $65,100 for the purchase of an explorer handheld gas detection device.

41:44

9A14 Establishing an official's payment account with First Interstate Bank for paying sports officials.

41:52

9A15, approving the site plan for the construction of an addition to the Casper Ice Arena.

41:58

And 9E16, authorizing a contract for professional services for transit services for the town of Evansville, a Wyoming municipality for fiscal year 2027.

42:08

Thank you.

42:08

The chair entertained a motion to adopt the consent agenda items just read.

42:14

Moved by Councillor Bond, seconded by Counselor McIntosh.

42:21

You're fully briefed in your packet, Mayor.

42:22

Thank you so much.

42:23

Any abstentions or nay votes on any of these items?

42:26

Councilor Sweeney.

42:29

Mayor, I um 9A number uh 14.

42:39

I'd like to cast a no vote.

42:44

Any other nays or abstentions?

42:49

Okay, please cast your vote.

42:54

Please record the vote.

42:56

With counselor Sweeney's no vote noted and all those voting aye, the motion passes.

43:02

Thank you.

43:03

Uh now is the time that we uh ask counselors to bring forward any relevant concerns or items of interest.

43:09

Counselor Haskins, can we start with you?

43:13

I don't have a lot this week.

43:15

I had a public health meeting last Thursday.

43:20

Only notable thing to note there is health insurance is going way up for them on top of everybody else.

43:25

So hopefully the state's got a brilliant plan after the election cycle.

43:30

That's it.

43:31

Counselor Jensen.

43:34

Counselor Macintosh.

43:36

The Hall of Justice Joint Powers Board meeting.

43:43

Right.

43:44

We have the uh Hall of Justice Joint Powers Board meeting.

43:48

The uh work is gonna get started here soon on the elevators in that building so that we can guarantee public safety using our elevators.

43:56

So that will begin moving forward here in a couple of months.

44:00

Um that's everything I had this week.

44:04

Thank you.

44:04

Councilor Orson, do you have anything tonight?

44:09

Uh I don't have much.

44:10

Had a regional water board meeting with counselors Pollock and um Councillor Sweeney today.

44:16

Um it's pretty quiet.

44:18

Nothing much came out of that.

44:19

I guess we will be seeing an exchange water petition uh showing up on one of the agendas here at some point.

44:26

So that was that was it, really.

44:29

So thank you.

44:31

Counselor Bond.

44:34

Uh not much, uh, no meetings this week, but I did um just want to say um congratulations and how uh what a good job the downtown merchants did on a crazy days with the car show and uh just all this activity going on in the lot of activity at David Street Station as well, but it was a great weekend in Casper.

44:55

So cheers to them.

44:57

Thank you.

44:57

Counselor Schmidt.

44:58

Thank you, Counselor Schwe.

45:01

Thank you, Mayor.

45:02

Um last Thursday morning at seven in the morning.

45:06

Uh the IMACO Joint Powers Board uh had their budget hearing at seven in the morning.

45:14

I don't know who does that.

45:16

Um there I went to the very exciting Hall of Justice meeting with uh counselor Macintosh.

45:27

Um uh that evening there were several candidate forums.

45:34

I made it to two.

45:37

Um one in particular by the League of Women Voters and the library.

45:43

Um put on a great forum I felt uh with the county commissioner candidates, and then later that evening, um, starting at what was it, 745, um uh city council candidates, which was really good.

46:04

So um a great talent pool, I think, for folks to uh consider in some great incumbents that I hope our citizens will look on favorably.

46:19

Um Pride, um I was invited to uh tour the boys and girls club.

46:27

Um had uh I think the past uh state champion uh who's gonna be a junior at K dub uh this year, but is about 6'4, I think.

46:44

Um but uh had a great tour in uh if council gets a chance.

46:50

Uh they've got some new new things, new programs going and so it'd be worth your time.

46:57

And then uh sat in on the LGBTQ.

47:02

Um as an alternate.

47:04

Uh thankfully um councillor Pollock was there in um always is visionary.

47:12

So then today regional water and um uh covered that.

47:21

Thank you, Mayor.

47:22

Yep, thank you.

47:23

Counselor Pollock.

47:26

Thank you, Mayor.

47:27

Uh only thing I'd add about regional water, it was quite a short meeting, but um we did uh report that uh our revenues came in higher than projected in no small part due to high water sales in June, as you can probably uh understand the reason for that.

47:46

So um we did come in uh over revenue there.

47:50

Um LWTQ advisory last week, uh again, relatively um uneventful meeting, though we did have a quorum, so we were able to approve some minutes.

48:00

Uh we did talk about the um meeting time and frequency, looking to try to potentially uh adjust that to help some folks be able to get to those meetings and um looks like we will be opening applications in the near term for that committee.

48:20

Um the only other item it sounds like we have action in the works for the mobile crisis unit, but I don't know if you needed any further direction from council or if we're just sort of holding to work through the items that we already have with them.

48:34

That okay, great.

48:36

Awesome.

48:37

Thank you.

48:37

Thank you.

48:38

Vice Mayor Thank you, Mayor.

48:42

I had a Casper Housing Authority Board meeting last Wednesday.

48:45

That was Kim Summerall rights last meeting.

48:49

Uh so again, wishing her well under a retirement.

48:52

I believe their team is having a retirement uh celebration for her in the very near future.

48:58

Discuss necessary repairs to be made at Wyoming National Apartments, uh building downtown they recently acquired uh regarding their HVAC system, so working on that.

49:08

They recently installed a self-service little food pantry at their urban thistle farm location.

49:13

This is the first one in North Casper, from what I understand.

49:16

Uh, your Wyoming Link, which I think is like the newly branded KCWY 13, uh did a nice little news segment highlighting the importance of these pantries in the community, especially as food insecurity increases.

49:27

I think that was last week uh at some point.

49:30

We had our council of governments breakfast last Thursday.

49:33

Uh I did not take any notes on that.

49:35

Uh so my lots happened since then, but uh it's always great to connect with the community's leaders.

49:41

I remember we made some referrals to resources for our neighbors up in Midwest because they're working through some things and obviously have a little bit less resources to bear than uh we have the luxury of here in Casper.

49:50

So just making referrals, kind of trying to get a sense to understand their budgets better and just understand uh which uh what each community's kind of pain points are and um what their needs are.

50:01

I joined uh councillor Macintosh and Sweeney, I believe, Saturday morning at the uh um college class up at UWCC, uh taught by our mayor, and uh I always enjoy the opportunity to speak to that group.

50:18

They always ask good questions and are interested in the workings of uh city council.

50:22

And then yeah, I also attended the city council forum.

50:25

I really appreciate all those people putting their names in the ring and uh showing up to uh kind of explain what they view as priorities for the community.

50:34

But I also really want to thank League of Women Voters in the Toronto County Public Library.

50:38

I really like that forum series.

50:40

They do a good job.

50:41

Uh Dale Borin, formerly of uh Casper Star Tribune and the Casper Journal was the moderator.

50:46

He did a fantastic job moderating, and we even had some uh youth there.

50:51

I believe they were from the boys and girls club, and they were helping keep time and uh also involved in kind of the process.

50:56

So it was great to see some teenagers kind of involved in that as well.

50:58

So just uh really like the format of the event and appreciate all the volunteers, especially didn't start till 7 45.

51:05

I don't think I left the parking lot until a quarter after nine or something.

51:08

So, you know, a late night for volunteers, so appreciative.

51:11

Thank you.

51:13

Uh not a lot.

51:14

I did have the chance to welcome the Wyoming Senior Women's Golf Association uh tournament.

51:19

Uh they had 95 participants.

51:21

Um they played at three crowns, so that was great.

51:23

Uh visit Casper was there also to welcome them.

51:26

Um and then I just impromptu I decided to just ring by the senior center.

51:30

Um my uh family goes there, my dad went there.

51:33

Um it's always a great great opportunity to touch base with um seniors.

51:38

Um and the senior center does a fantastic job taking care of of um um of those individuals.

51:43

So a notice of an executive session to take place at this date and during this meeting was given.

51:51

We have litigation and attorney client privilege matters to discuss.

51:54

The chair would entertain a motion to adjourn into an executive session at the conclusion of that executive session to reconvene this regular meeting solely for the purposes of the adjournment of this regular meeting.

52:04

So moved.

52:05

Go ahead.

52:06

Moved by Councillor Pollock, seconded by Councillor Haskins.

52:09

There are a majority of counselors present, and a motion to adjourn into an executive session has been moved and seconded.

52:15

This motion requires a two-thirds majority of the council present.

52:18

Please cast your vote.

52:22

Please record the vote.

52:24

With all councillors voting aye, the motion passes.

52:26

Greater than two thirds majority of the council present voted in favor of the motion.

52:29

We are hereby adjourned into an

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Summary of Proceedings

Casper City Council Regular Meeting - July 21, 2026

The Casper City Council met on July 21, 2026, for a regular meeting. The council approved consent items, heard public comments on mental health crisis services and a neighborhood dispute, passed multiple ordinances and liquor licenses, adopted a consent resolution packet, and received council committee reports before unanimously voting to adjourn into executive session.

Consent Calendar

  • Consent Minute Action: Approved minutes of the July 7, 2026 regular meeting and executive session (unanimous).
  • General Bills and Claims: Approved as audited (unanimous).
  • Conflict Claims: Approved with Councillors Larson and Macintosh abstaining (motion passed).
  • Consent Agenda (Public Hearing Date): Established August 4, 2026 as a public hearing date for an ordinance amending municipal code sections and a downtown urban renewal project resolution (unanimous).

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Mobile Crisis Team Presentation: Jason Merrick and Rachel Pryor from Central Wyoming Counseling Center described their mobile crisis services, which currently operate 7 days a week, roughly 10 a.m. to 10 or 11 p.m., serving Casper, Mills, Evansville, Glen Rock, and Douglas. They requested integration with first responders and assistance finalizing a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with the city. Councilor Sweeney asked about funding; City Manager Jordan noted the center was part of a One Natrona opioid grant application but could not confirm if opioid funds directly support this project. The mayor directed staff to follow up on funding. The City Manager and City Attorney are already working on an MOU with the Fire Department.
  • Stirrups Neighborhood Dispute: Chiropractor Dan State (223 South Kenwood Street, 42 years in business) alleged that the business Stirrups and its owners David and Ari have engaged in harassment and intimidation since June 29, 2026, including parking vehicles in front of his practice to block patient access, destroying delineator posts, and creating noise and congestion. He stated that the adjacent businesses and residents are victims, not Stirrups or its customers. He presented video evidence and asked the council for advice and advocacy. David Starsevich (Stirrups owner) responded that the city’s actions—restricting access to a public lot—forced his employees to park on the street. He argued that his property has a sole easement for Kenwood access and that his employees have a right to use public parking. He denied malicious intent and stated he has been ignored in private requests for meetings. Vice Mayor acknowledged receiving calls from Starsevich and thanked both speakers for their articulation. The mayor noted the city is caught in the middle and trying to resolve the situation.

Discussion Items

  • Ordinance – Annexation (Bryan Evansville Road): One speaker in favor (property owner, no opposition). Approved on first reading (unanimous)—annexation, annexation agreement, and zoning for 4.2 acres at 2585 and 2595 Bryan Evansville Road.
  • Ordinance – Robinson Road Subdivision: No public comment. Approved on first reading (unanimous)—vacation, final plat, and subdivision agreement.
  • New Restaurant Liquor License #55 – City Works Cafe: Located at 162 South Walcott. No public comment. Approved with Councillor Pollock abstaining.
  • New Restaurant Liquor License #54 – Frida's House Mexican Food: Located at 350 Southeast Wyoming Boulevard. No public comment. Approved with Councillor Pollock abstaining.
  • Second Reading – Shepherd of the Hills Subdivision: No public comment. Approved on second reading (unanimous).
  • Consent Resolutions (16 items): Adopted items including the Downtown Hotel Urban Renewal Plan, agreements for bond counsel (Butler Snow LLP and Hathaway & Coons), a five-year uniform services contract with Kinsco LLC ($475,000), transit services contracts for Natrona County and the Town of Evansville for FY2027, rescission of a waterline easement, city hall chiller replacement contract, Wolf Creek drainage repair, structural repairs project, victim services contract, cybersecurity software grant, homeland security training and equipment grants (including $10,300 training and $65,100 for an explosive gas detection device), official's payment account with First Interstate Bank, and ice arena addition site plan. Councillor Sweeney voted no on item 9A14 (officials' payment account); all other items passed unanimously.

Key Outcomes

  • All consent items, ordinances, and resolutions passed as indicated above.
  • The mobile crisis team will continue coordination with city staff on the MOU and funding clarification.
  • The Stirrups neighborhood dispute remains unresolved; the council encouraged private discussions and will continue to work with both parties.
  • The council voted unanimously (>2/3 majority) to enter executive session to discuss litigation and attorney-client privilege, with the regular meeting to reconvene solely for adjournment.

Meeting Transcript

Good evening, everybody. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone to silence your cell phones. Council meetings are live streamed on the city's YouTube channel. I now call the July 20 21st, 2026 regular council meeting to order. All council members are present. Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I put the defense to the fire of the United States of America. And to the Republic for which it stands. One nation. Liberty and Justice Crawl. Please read the consent minute approval titles. Approving the minutes of the July 7th, 2026 regular council meeting and the July 7th, 2026 executive session. Thank you. The chair would entertain a motion to approve the consent minute action agenda items just read. Move by the vice mayor, seconded by counselor Haskins. Any abstentions? Please cast your vote. Please record the vote. With all counselors voting aye, the motion passes. The chair entertained a motion to approve by minute action the July 21st, 2026. General bills and claims is audited by city manager Jordan. So moved. Move by Councillor Pollock, seconded by Councillor Bond. Any abstentions? Please cast your vote. Please record the vote. With all counselors voting aye, the motion passes. The chair would entertain a motion to approve by minute action the July 21st, 2026. Conflict claims as audited by city manager Jordan. So move. Second. Move by Councillor McIntosh, seconded by Councillor Pollock. Any abstentions. Got an abstention. I think you're on there too. You'll understand. Okay. Did you get those? Okay. Thank you. Please cast your vote. Please record the vote. With counselors Larson and Macintosh abstaining and all others voting aye, the motion passes. So now is the time that we invite anyone in the audience who wishes to speak with the council to come forward. This portion of the meeting is dedicated to the public and allow them time to discuss matters of public interest and to voice any concerns. We do ask that you please state your name, direct all questions and comments to the mayor. No personal obscenities or threats will be tolerated. Council will not respond to any personnel matters. Those will all be referred to our city manager. Councillors may clear may ask clarifying questions, but if they choose to respond to the matters, they will do so during the scheduled council response following communications from persons present.

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