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Charles County Board of Commissioners Public Hearing and Adoption Vote on Bill 2025-07, November 18, 2025

County Commissioners & Boards — Tuesday, November 18, 2025
BodyCharles County, Maryland
SessionCounty Commissioners & Boards
DateTuesday, November 18, 2025
StatusFILED
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Speaker numbers apply only to this recording. Names come from transcript evidence. “Possibly” marks uncertain attribution.

Speaker 1

0:08

Charles County Government presents the Board of Commissioners meeting.

Speaker 2

0:18

Good evening, Commissioners.

0:19

We're going to begin this evening's session with a roll call.

0:22

Commissioner Bowling.

Speaker 3

0:23

Present.

Speaker 2

0:24

Commissioner Coates.

0:27

Commissioner Stewart.

0:28

Here.

0:29

Commissioner Patterson.

Speaker 1

0:30

Present.

Speaker 2

0:30

And Commissioner Collins.

0:32

Here.

0:33

Thank you.

0:33

Commissioners, the next item on your agenda is to hear the public hearing on proposed bill 202507.

0:42

Commissioner term limits.

Speaker 4

0:45

Good evening.

0:46

The purpose of this evening's session is to hold a public hearing on proposed bill 2025 07 Commissioners Term limits.

0:57

If it pleases the commissioners, I will dispense with the reading of the public notice.

1:03

For the public, when it's your turn to speak, please state your name and address clearly for the record.

1:10

Statement should relate to the subject matter of this identified hearing.

1:15

Statement should be brief to the point and limited to three minutes or less.

1:20

Proper language is required at all times.

1:24

Additionally, please please understand that this is a public hearing, which means that this is the commissioner's opportunity to hear directly from the public.

1:34

This is the public's opportunity to speak.

1:37

Consequently, the commissioners will not be entertaining questions or debating the issue.

1:44

The commissioners do reserve the right to extend the time frame or to continue the hearing until another date.

1:51

With that stated, we will now begin the public hearing.

Unassigned speaker

1:55

Good

Speaker 5

1:55

evening, Commissioners Wes Adams, County Attorney.

2:18

This adds Section C, which creates term limits beginning with December 6th, 2022.

2:25

It requires that there be no more than two terms, consecutive or non-consecutive, served by any commissioner in any capacity on as a board of county commissioner, either a district or commissioner president.

2:37

It provides for the it addresses how to count a term if a vacancy occurs and a uh the position is filled by way of um Article 9402 of the local government article, um, which is the um the vacancy process filling a vacancy process by the governor.

3:04

And it also addresses uh should a commissioner um be suspended or removed from office at any time during their term as a result of being found guilty of a crime or a felony

Unassigned speaker

3:18

or

Speaker 5

3:18

a misdemeanor, it would automatically count that term no matter when their vacancy or when that when they were suspended.

3:26

So the bill as it's presented was um discussed by the commissioners in a work session, and this is the consensus of the commissioners.

3:36

I will note additionally, if I may have a point of privilege here,

Unassigned speaker

3:42

that

Speaker 5

3:44

bill was subject to an opinion by the county attorney's office regarding the constitutionality of certain uh provisions or requests.

3:54

I will note for the commissioners and also since there have been a number of public comments and the county attorney's office has not weighed in publicly.

4:03

There's a difference between the Article 1 power, which is power of the people to elect vote or create their form of government, and Article 7 power, which is the legislature's power.

Unassigned speaker

4:20

Um,

Speaker 5

4:21

or excuse me, Article 6 power, which is legislators' power.

4:25

Article 17 of the Maryland Declaration of Rights guarantees that there be no ex post facto or no retroactive oath that limits legislative ability to enact retroactive laws.

4:39

Article 7 of the Maryland Declaration of Rights guarantees that the right of people to participate in the legislature is the best security of liberty and the foundation of all free government.

4:52

So Article 7 secures a right to participate in the legislature.

Unassigned speaker

5:00

Our Maryland Supreme Court has identified a four-part test.

Speaker 5

5:03

A legislature is not allowed to make a retroactive law when it abridges a constitutional right, a Maryland constitutional right or a federal constitutional right.

5:15

So Article 7 provides that constitutional right to folks to join in and participate in the government.

5:23

The only way to do that is to be a candidate and run for office.

5:26

And Article 16.

5:32

Excuse me, Article 17 prohibits a legislature from making a retroactive oath or restriction be imposed or required.

5:42

To answer the why the 2018 request to start term limits in 2018 is unconstitutional, that's why.

5:51

With respect to why 2022 is, I believe, in my opinion, permissible, because there's also another piece of legislation of Maryland law that allows for a sitting body to modify, change, or even abolish an office that it creates.

6:10

This body that was elected on 20 in December of 2020, well, actually earlier in the election in 2022 in November, but that began sitting in December of 2022 is a body.

6:26

It is the body.

6:35

Just because you're all Board of County Commissioners doesn't make you all, doesn't make it the same body over and over again.

6:42

This four-year term is a body, and you can adjust amend adopt a regulation to impact yourself.

6:49

That's why the 2022 starting this bill as of December 6, 2022, in my opinion, is constitutional, but looking backwards would be unconstitutional.

7:03

I believe the commissioners understood that, and that's why the bill is for two terms starting December 6th of 2022.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Term Limits█████████████████████████████████████████████86%
Procedural██████11%
Community Engagement██3%
Summary of Proceedings

Charles County Board of Commissioners Public Hearing and Adoption Vote on Bill 2025-07 – November 18, 2025

On November 18, 2025, the Charles County Board of Commissioners held an evening public hearing on proposed Bill 2025-07, which would impose term limits on county commissioners. The county attorney outlined the bill's provisions and constitutional analysis, members of the public testified in person and virtually, and the board closed the record and voted 3–2 to adopt the bill.

Proposed Bill 2025-07: Commissioner Term Limits

  • County Attorney Wes Adams explained that the bill adds Section C creating term limits beginning December 6, 2022, with no more than two terms, consecutive or non-consecutive, served by any commissioner in any capacity, either as a district commissioner or commissioner president.
  • The bill addresses how to count a term if a vacancy is filled through the governor's vacancy process under Article 9-402 of the Local Government Article, and states that a commissioner suspended or removed after being found guilty of a felony or misdemeanor would have that term counted automatically.
  • Adams said the bill reflected consensus from a prior work session. He distinguished the people's power under Article 1 from legislative authority, cited Article 7 of the Maryland Declaration of Rights (right to participate in the legislature) and Article 17 (no retroactive restrictions), and explained why, in the county attorney's opinion, a 2018 start date would be unconstitutional but a December 6, 2022 start date is permissible because each four-year body may adjust the office it occupies.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Jamie Larson spoke in opposition, arguing that district-based voting starting in the next election gives voters direct accountability and that term limits would weaken voters' ability to keep effective, experienced commissioners in office.
  • Timothy Trainer said he favors term limits enacted by voters at the ballot box, but opposes the board imposing them by law; he argued experience matters and noted that recent elections in Charles County show incumbents can be defeated.
  • Desmond Rosier, District 1, spoke in support, citing federal gridlock and arguing local governments need new energy and leaders; he said two-term limits create a healthy cycle of renewal.
  • David Heidelbach of Charlotte Hall opposed the bill, saying elections are existing term limits. He questioned the level of public demand, referenced Commissioner Patterson's earlier claim about hundreds of emails, argued the commissioner salary of roughly $50,000–$60,000 is not a career, worried term limits could create career politicians using the role as a springboard, and believed no code home rule counties have term limits.
  • Ayanna Moore spoke in support, saying term limits keep elected office accessible, prevent entrenchment, encourage long-term planning, and align Charles County with other jurisdictions. She expressed disappointment that the bill does not count all prior terms served collectively.
  • Joseph Menck (also stated as Joseph Mank), District 4, spoke in support, citing a 2023 Pew Research study finding that 87% of Americans support term limits for Congress. He argued incumbency advantages stack the deck against challengers and said he hoped the commissioners who supported charter would move the bill forward.
  • Greg Waring of Waldorf supported the bill and suggested two edits: removing the December 6, 2022 start clause so the limit applies to current and past officeholders, and changing it to a consecutive-term limit to address constitutional concerns. He also suggested counting resignations as terms. He noted St. Mary's and Carroll counties have term limits, Calvert County does not, and Harford County recently adopted term limits for its county council. He also said Commissioner Bowling had earlier misspoken in saying Calvert County has term limits.
  • Duron Frost (listed in the call as Daron Tross), District 3, supported term limits, noting his commissioner had served three consecutive terms and had not responded to his constituent letter; he said his community still lacks sidewalks and lighting.

Commissioner Discussion

  • A commissioner noted the record had been open for over 120 days, since the bill was introduced on July 22, 2025, and appreciated the civil public engagement.
  • Another commissioner said there are valid points on both sides, acknowledged that both experience and new voices have value, and cited a CNN report about bipartisan congressional interest in term limits involving former U.S. Rep. David Trone and Florida's governor.

Key Outcomes

  • Motion to close the public record: passed unanimously.
  • Motion to end the public hearing: passed unanimously.
  • Motion to adopt Bill 2025-07 (Commissioner Term Limits): passed 3–2 by roll call. Commissioner Bowling voted no, Commissioner Coates voted yes, Commissioner Stewart voted no, Commissioner Patterson voted yes, and Commissioner Collins voted yes.
  • After a procedural interruption about whether the meeting had been closed before the vote, the board completed the roll call and then voted to adjourn.

Meeting Transcript

Charles County Government presents the Board of Commissioners meeting. Good evening, Commissioners. We're going to begin this evening's session with a roll call. Commissioner Bowling. Present. Commissioner Coates. Commissioner Stewart. Here. Commissioner Patterson. Present. And Commissioner Collins. Here. Thank you. Commissioners, the next item on your agenda is to hear the public hearing on proposed bill 202507. Commissioner term limits. Good evening. The purpose of this evening's session is to hold a public hearing on proposed bill 2025 07 Commissioners Term limits. If it pleases the commissioners, I will dispense with the reading of the public notice. For the public, when it's your turn to speak, please state your name and address clearly for the record. Statement should relate to the subject matter of this identified hearing. Statement should be brief to the point and limited to three minutes or less. Proper language is required at all times. Additionally, please please understand that this is a public hearing, which means that this is the commissioner's opportunity to hear directly from the public. This is the public's opportunity to speak. Consequently, the commissioners will not be entertaining questions or debating the issue. The commissioners do reserve the right to extend the time frame or to continue the hearing until another date. With that stated, we will now begin the public hearing. Good evening, Commissioners Wes Adams, County Attorney. This adds Section C, which creates term limits beginning with December 6th, 2022. It requires that there be no more than two terms, consecutive or non-consecutive, served by any commissioner in any capacity on as a board of county commissioner, either a district or commissioner president. It provides for the it addresses how to count a term if a vacancy occurs and a uh the position is filled by way of um Article 9402 of the local government article, um, which is the um the vacancy process filling a vacancy process by the governor. And it also addresses uh should a commissioner um be suspended or removed from office at any time during their term as a result of being found guilty of a crime or a felony or a misdemeanor, it would automatically count that term no matter when their vacancy or when that when they were suspended. So the bill as it's presented was um discussed by the commissioners in a work session, and this is the consensus of the commissioners. I will note additionally, if I may have a point of privilege here, that bill was subject to an opinion by the county attorney's office regarding the constitutionality of certain uh provisions or requests. I will note for the commissioners and also since there have been a number of public comments and the county attorney's office has not weighed in publicly. There's a difference between the Article 1 power, which is power of the people to elect vote or create their form of government, and Article 7 power, which is the legislature's power. Um, or excuse me, Article 6 power, which is legislators' power. Article 17 of the Maryland Declaration of Rights guarantees that there be no ex post facto or no retroactive oath that limits legislative ability to enact retroactive laws. Article 7 of the Maryland Declaration of Rights guarantees that the right of people to participate in the legislature is the best security of liberty and the foundation of all free government. So Article 7 secures a right to participate in the legislature. Our Maryland Supreme Court has identified a four-part test. A legislature is not allowed to make a retroactive law when it abridges a constitutional right, a Maryland constitutional right or a federal constitutional right. So Article 7 provides that constitutional right to folks to join in and participate in the government. The only way to do that is to be a candidate and run for office.

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