Vice Chair Martin.

Here.

Commissioner London.

Commissioner Moore.

Here.

Commissioner Garza.

Here.

Commissioner Sowell.

Here.

And Commissioner Gurky.

Changes.

Move it approved.

Got a motion by Commissioner Moore.

Is there anything uh anybody wants to add to him?

You don't have to do a roll call.

So move.

Second.

Motion by Commissioner Garza.

Second by Commissioner Sole.

Motion pass.

Takes about three months.

New business.

Request for approval for conditional use of short term term rental of Western Hills Block 2, lot 26, plus one foot of lot 25, 2037 Whole Street Clubs, New Mexico.

Mr.

Perkins.

Yeah.

Good morning, Chair, co-chairs and other commissioners on the board.

Yes, sir.

For this one, uh the applicant is requesting a conditional use for short-term rental to be used as a Airbnb.

Anybody have any questions, discussion?

Is the applicant here?

I'm sorry.

Anybody from the audience would like to speak to this.

And Mr.

Chair, just to give you guys a quick update, uh we have finalized our review internally on the language for proposed for the short-term rentals.

Uh and so we're just having some further discussions internally, make sure we have it exactly how we want it before bringing it to you guys.

Um and so that we will have that uh for the text amendments uh at the next plan and zoning commission meeting.

So Mr.

Chair.

Mr.

Martin.

So are you saying we should vote on this or we shouldn't vote this until we hear from you?

I I don't think anything that that we're proposing is going to change this application.

Uh and so any of the the conditions that we're proposing to put on them uh would still be applicable no matter what we do, what action we take today, simply because uh they're still going to be required to apply for a permit and proposed we're proposing that they apply for a permit uh on an annual basis, renewing that.

And so anything that we put in that permit requirements they'll still be required to have.

Uh we're also proposing to make it a permitted use underneath all of the zones versus a conditional use in all of the zones.

So uh like I said, there's nothing that we're doing that you guys would be taking on action today that would impact this applicant in the future once those text amendments are in place.

Okay.

And additionally, as discussed previous uh with other conditional use uh such as this matter of all city ordinances and stuff still are in effect.

So it's not going to change how we implement and and uphold those other standards.

Mr.

Chair, is is there anything?

Is there any other background that we need to know?

Is there any explanation that needs to be go along with this?

I don't think your background yeah, yeah.

Uh like I put in the background, there's no adverse effect to this.

Uh everything meets the uh the UDO.

Um it's in a permitted district for this use.

Uh it's an RS7, uh single family residential use, Airbnb is commiserate to that same use.

Um the infrastructure and facilities are in place, uh DPW and all of uh their enforceable actions are also are gonna be uh in place.

Uh Mr.

Chairman.

Um I do have a question.

I mean, there's not even uh name of who's applying for these.

I would have a concern as to approving this with no name on it.

Is that required or not required?

Um the the name of the applicant wasn't required per the city ordinance, but in the future I can uh provide that for you.

So we do know who it is applying for this.

Any other questions?

Entertain a motion.

I move approval.

Second.

Got a uh motion to approve by Commissioner Martin, Vice Chairman Martin, second by Commissioner Moore.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

All those opposed.

Motion passes.

Next order of business.

Request approval for name change of Thornton Street between 21st Street through Yano Estacado Boulevard to Ulsip Street.

Perkins.

Yes, sir.

Uh we received this application through uh uh third party.

Uh uh they were acting on behalf of uh Mrs.

Barbara Also.

Uh the request is that uh we change uh Thornton North Orton from 21st Street to Yano Estacado to all sub street or also boulevard or also up Avenue.

I put street on as the title because it's currently labeled as a street, but however you guys want to title it, we can make that change as part of this if you if you wish.

With that, the uh the approval uh will not impede the normal or orderly development or improvement of surrounding properties for the uh uses permitted in the district.

The proposed request complies with all applicable regulations.

Sixty-five contiguous lot owners were notified, twenty-seven of them have addresses on Thornton Street.

Uh financial impact.

Um the applicant is to cover the actual cost of the street sign replacements.

Uh Department of Public Works estimates that cost at $13,850.

Uh that this number does not include any cost incurred by the residents or businesses along that route to update any of their letterhead uh accounts, mortgages, etc.

Um.

Yeah.

Uh as stated alternative names, we're also at Boulevard and also up Avenue.

Um recommendation uh from the staff is pending receipt of public comment.

Uh we received uh three comments from uh residents along this route and one comment from a resident amongst the city.

Umtices were mailed on January 9th, 2026.

We Ms.

Perkins, we don't have a copy of that third comment.

I think we got two of them.

Is that correct?

Which which part?

Um we you said there was three uh people that got a hold of you about the name change?

Yes, sir.

You got two of them, and there's one out there.

So on the uh on the list that I gave you on the uh left column, it identifies uh everyone that we've gotten uh uh notice from.

I got one this morning and it did not get added to this because I printed this last night.

So we have currently we have uh four objections and uh one objection that's outside of the affected area for a total of five.

So four of the I'm sorry, Mr.

Jimmy Vice Chairman.

And and I believe some of the people here in the audience also uh uh have comment to make on this matter.

Yeah.

So anybody from the audience like to come up and speak?

Sir.

Start with you.

Please state your name and address and raise your right hand, I'll swear again.

Thank you.

Um I'm Michael McCord.

Uh my address is 1618 Curry Road H, but I'm speaking this afternoon on behalf of Farmers Electric Cooperative at 3701 North Thornton Street.

Okay.

Raise your right hand, please.

Do you swear affirm that your test testimony will be truthful?

Yes, sir.

Go ahead.

Thank you.

Good afternoon, Chairman Klein and Commissioners.

My name is Michael McCord.

I work for Farmers Electric Cooperative Incorporated of New Mexico, where I serve as the Director of Systems Engineering, and where I've been employed for almost 18 years.

As a side note, Farmers Electric has been doing business in and around Clovis for 88 years.

I will read from Farmers Electric Cooperatives, henceforth Farmers Electric, official position regarding the proposed name change of North Thornton Street between 21st Street through Yano Estacato Boulevard.

Today, Farmers Electric stands in strong opposition to the proposed name change.

We have been located at our present location, 3,701 North Thornton Street since 1983, 43 years.

We feel we have a vested interest in this process and appreciate the opportunity to speak and to be heard.

Thornton Street has been an established historic part of our community for a great number of years as long as we can remember.

Changing Thornton's name is not only unnecessary, but acts against the best interests of the residents and business owners who reside and operate there.

From a common sense perspective, this proposal disregards the history and identity of our neighborhood.

Thornton Street is a landmark that provides a sense of place and continuity.

Thornton Street was named after New Mexico Territorial Governor William Thornton, who served from New Mexico.

New Mexico from 1893 to 1897.

Erasing such a name erases the local and state history attached to it.

Furthermore, changing names creates confusion for longtime residents, visitors, and emergency service providers who have known this location by its current name of Thornton Street for decades.

At a time when we should be focused on fiscal responsibility, this renaming proposal presents an unnecessary financial burden, no matter who is paying for it.

For the city, this involves costly expenditures to replace street signs, update official maps, adjust 911 emergency databases, and revise tax records.

For businesses and residents, the burden is even higher.

Businesses will be forced to spend thousands of dollars on new stationary business cards, advertising, marketing materials, changing bank account information, and much more.

For farmers electric specifically.

Including but not limited to insurance information, vehicle registrations, New Mexico DOT information, public regulatory filings, registrations at the Bureau of Reclamation, Southwest Powerpool, NERC, and then I have a side note because I thought of a few others uh government entities while I was sitting over here that I'll mention here.

Um the State Historic Preservation Office, New Mexico State Land Office, Department of Homeland Security, Information the Energy Information Sharing and Analysis Center, the Federal Communication Commission, Bureau of Land Management, Rural Utility Service, and back to the official position.

Notice to all suppliers of address change, etc., etc.

These may not mean a lot to you, but they mean a lot to us, a lot of time and money involved.

In the cooperative business model, every dollar that leaves our building belongs to our members, and we take that to heart.

Furthermore, residents will have to deal with the tedious and costly process of changing legal documents, updating banking information, notifying utility service, amongst other things.

In conclusion, we should prioritize the preservation of our community's character and history and support residents and local businesses rather than placing unnecessary obstacles in their paths.

There are many other ways to honor Alsip's legacy legacy without dismantling old ones.

We would like to go on record and commend this effort.

Might we suggest naming a new street after the Alsips family as one becomes available?

We would be all in on something like that.

Chairman Klein and Commissioners, we strongly urge the P and Z Commission to use some common sense and vote against this unnecessary street renaming proposal.

Respectfully, farmers electric cooperative incorporated of New Mexico.

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr.

McCord.

Is there any questions?

We can have each one of them speak the way.

We have it on record.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Sir, would you like to come up or would you like to come up or is that the question?

I'm about to back it up with the same thing of how many people live on that screen.

Well, for the record, would you come up and medical Sir you have to go up to the podium?

Yeah.

That way we can get you on the record.

Please raise your right hand.

Do you swear affirm that your testimony will be truthful?

Yes.

All right.

I work for the government for 26 years, retired military.

And to me, same thing.

I think it's a waste of time.

I have nothing against the All Subs family.

I've been here since 1998.

I respect the family.

But it's looking at it from the perspective of all those people that live on that street.

I believe you said young man was 27 families.

That's 27.

DMVs.

All their documentation for all their billing, all their mailing, all their medical records, some of them are vets, that they all have to go through the VA and all that.

It's just a pain in the butt just for a name.

Like you said, either take another road, which I was suggesting a Lonald uh I think it's Wheaton, the next block down.

Is that correct?

By going towards the junior high.

Will Hyde.

Will Hight, thank you.

Or another housing area that gets developed, make it the main road.

You know, it's just common courtesy to for all these people that have lived there.

I mean, you got multiple generations living on Thornton.

So like I said, I'm pretty much just backing up Pimbutt looking at it from all the paperwork for these old people.

You know.

Thank you, sir.

All right.

Have a good day.

Is there anyone else?

In the audience?

Somebody else in the UK.

There's a well there was a lady out there that can't see.

Mr.

Linson.

Do you mind if we let the lady speak a little?

I didn't see it.

I need you.

Sorry, ma'am, didn't see you behind the column.

That was intentional.

Name and address.

Shelley Brown, 1441 Lexington Road, Clovis, New Mexico.

Please raise your right hand.

Do you swear affirm that your testimony will be truthful?

Yes, I do.

I agree with everything that these two gentlemen have said.

You have I was actually here for the historical part of it.

I am part of the historical museum out at the county.

There are maps that have to be changed.

There are things that would have to be changed.

I have nothing against the Alsips family.

The 27 families that do live on Thornton Street and are addressed off of Thornton Street.

Their mortgages will have to, uh their addresses will have to be changed.

They'll have to work with that.

They'll have to work with their insurance, everything.

Through the post office, the 911, the police, the fire department, the EMTs, everybody are going to have a hard time of, oh, well, that's Thornton Street now.

Well, you know, not everybody is going to know that lived here and it's going to say, oh, I thought it was Also.

I thought it was a new street.

Let's name a new subdivision.

Let's name a new uh plaza.

Let's do something.

A new street, anything.

But let's not put people through all of this paperwork, plus the county, the city, everybody that has to do any paperwork.

Thank you.

Thank you, ma'am.

Mr.

Lindsay.

Name and address.

Dan Lindsay, 920 Mitchell Street, Clovis, New Mexico, and 3000 East Yana, West Dakota.

Please raise your right hand.

Do you swear affirm that your testimony will be truthful?

Yes.

Members of the Commission, thank you for entertaining this and taking this into consideration, this name change from 21st Street to Yano.

It doesn't include Farmers Electric.

They're on uh they're north of the area that we're asking the Commission to change to Alsips.

Also Boulevard.

That sounds the best to me.

But Barbara doesn't know, okay, that we uh have done this.

I've been her lawyer for over 25 years.

Uh Myrna Valdez is my legal assistant, and we thought and her daughter, who is here today, Teresa Also is sitting behind me.

It was their idea, so we decided to try it.

Uh and a variety of reasons compels me to speak on her behalf and renaming this street to Also's Boulevard.

But there's one uh specific compelling reason.

I'll get to at the end.

But I called Ernie Koss a while ago and I talked to her.

She'd like to be here to talk to you.

She had some uh visitors from Santa Fe.

She couldn't be here at three o'clock today, but I talked to her about her the Alsips contribute contributions to Clovis in our city here.

Uh she said it's been a lot.

It's been a lot.

When they had El Cid Ranch and they did the United Way funding, it was like $250,000 a year for 20 years.

They donated that money.

For 20 years to the United Way.

They've had over a thousand employees, but over 300 in in Clovis.

They have contributed significantly to the community through the through those dollars, those tax dollars.

They've had their offices there on Thornton for uh I think almost 50 years that's been rev renovated several times.

Uh still sitting dormant.

There was an offer for uh the city, the schools to purchase it for three million, and then Barbara would donate a million back for early for vocational uh training uh at the school, but the this the school system declined that.

But these all the Alsips are well known.

I know they have they still have ULSIPs around, you know, but they're yes ways, and they're doing a good job with the yes ways.

But the real reason well, not the real reason, but one of the reasons is that when I was a kid at Cameo Elementary School, the Alsips had an Easter egg hunt.

I don't know if anyone remembers that, but I sure do because I was a poor Mexican kid from living on Redwood Street, and we all went to Green Acres for the Easter egg roll, and there were hundreds, if not thousands of kids out there who participated.

Uh you might have remembered Mr.

Martin, you remember those?

There was thousands of a hundreds of eggs and one golden egg with like a hundred dollar bill in it, and it was just kind of mass chaos out there.

But I remember that as a kid and the the Alsips and it with KCLV, the radio station they owned, did that as a promotion, but they donated that and made a lot of kids happy.

They've been here a long time.

Their first store was in Roswell, but their next doors were in Clovis, and they of course, as you know, they sold the 351 stores a few years ago.

Lonnie passed away, and Barbara's 92 years old.

Uh they've given a lot to Clovis.

They've given a lot.

And this is just a small gesture and a small stretch of road on Thornton Street that doesn't erase the rest of Thornton Street or erase a governor or a territorial governor's name from history.

Um but it is a change for some folks, just like Martin Luther King Boulevard or C Cesar Chavez Boulevard was a change for folks.

And I think it's befitting the city of Clovis, where I grew up to name this street after Alsips.

The only other business that I have fond memories of is Taco Box when we go fishing at out at Green Acres and walk across the street to get some Spanish fries.

But I'm not going to compare your Spanish fries to Alsace burritos.

But I'll tell you, those all sips burritos are fantastic.

And if for any other reason they should name this small stretch of road after Alsips.

But uh I think it's a good thing.

Uh and I think it's uh befitting to give back a little bit.

Thank you.

Any questions?

I think so.

Thank you.

One question.

One question.

You said it does not include Farmers Electric.

The proposal is from 21st to YANO.

So uh our paperwork says through Yano, so that's what I think.

Okay.

Well, I thought I thought it stopped at YANA.

But if it goes through Yano, then it would include them.

Yeah.

I don't well, to the city limits, which would be the next section up, will height?

I thought it ended at uh at Yano, but I I understood it as it ended at the curb.

The north curb of Yano.

When you said through Yano, I understood that too.

Okay.

Through the street, stopping at the curb, and like you indicated, would not include farmers.

Yeah, that's what I thought too.

So I mean they have valid concerns, obviously.

You know, it sounds terrible to have them do that, but it's not that much of an imposition given the great things that that Alsace has done for us.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I mean it's listed on the address.

It's on there.

Sir, sure.

Hello.

Uh my name is Ian Alsip.

Uh 918 Kern Drive, Clovis, New Mexico.

Um, I guess we're in real quick.

Raise your right hand.

Do you swear affirm that your testimony will be truthful?

Yes.

Okay.

Hello.

Um thank you all for hearing all of this.

And um I would like to say that I am kind of shocked about what I heard that is very valid concerns for Farmers Electric and for some of the residents there.

But um I'd like to speak kind of on behalf of my grandfather and grandmother right now.

And um the only reason I think that I really want this to happen is just because they have left behind a lot for this community, for this town, for a lot of the people, um, children and adults included.

And I think that if we could find a way to maybe make everybody happy in doing this and finding the right street, that that would be probably the best way of doing this.

But yeah, I just wanted to um I just I would really like for this to happen.

And so thank you.

Thank you.

This is technically CSK.

Hello.

Teresa Alsip.

Um Cero one one Buena Vista, New Mexico.

Do you swear affirm that your testimony will be truthful?

Yes.

I swear.

Um good afternoon, everybody.

Thank you for being here.

Um I agree with you on what you had to say.

Is there any way that we could make it shorter and not include farmers electric in this?

Is there a way to zone it like that?

And that way it's possible to not affect so many people.

Mr.

Chairman, may I respond to that?

Please.

Sure.

So I think any member of the commission could make a motion for whatever they wanted, they could make a motion to deny, approve it through YANO, or approve it up and to YANO or approve a certain name, you know, Boulevard Street, et cetera.

So yes, to answer your question.

It would just be a member of the commission that would have to craft a motion accordingly.

Okay.

That would that would be good if we could do that.

But like Dan said, Mrs.

Alsip is 92.

And she's done a lot.

Barbara and Lonnie did a lot for this town.

And I think it's befitting, and I think it's has been earned.

And I hope that we can do this for her.

It would be a great honor for her.

And it would leave, you know, she's already left a legacy behind.

But we came up with this idea, and I thought it was a really good one, but I didn't realize that it would entail so much that people would have to change their mortgages and Social Security and whatever else.

So but if we can make this happen, that would be just wonderful.

And thank you all for listening.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Mr.

Chairman, members of the commission.

In regards to shortening the length of it, I mean, obviously, when we initially took a look at it, uh that's from 21st Street to Yano is about a mile.

And so right, and so we would have Thornton Also's boulevard and then Thornton going north again from that point.

And so if you start to shorten that, even from an emergency response standpoint, I mean, our from a 911, you could have a shorter block of a street that's sandwiched in between two other streets.

It just there may not be a legal reason uh that you couldn't do that, but just from a response standpoint, and it could make it challenging and confusing.

Thank you.

Does may I ask a question?

Gaddis School is what addresses this?

Does it have is it a county of it?

First off, Thornton.

It's CRK, but it's addressed Thornton.

Okay.

But that would that's not included.

No, sir.

No.

Is there somebody else from the audience selected to speak?

They're not on here.

No.

I just wondered what their address was.

I didn't think you'd go that far.

My name is Bonnie Valdez, 509 West 17th Clovis, New Mexico.

Uh I am a legal assistant for Dan Lindsay.

I got a swear in real quick.

Oh, yes.

Please raise your right hand.

Do you swear affirm that your testimony will be truthful?

Yes, sir.

I got to know all sips through my employment.

And she has donated so much not just to our community, but to the surrounding communities, and extended also into Texas.

She donated a million dollars to the university that my daughter attends University of Southwest in Hobbes.

I got notice through a letter that I received in the mail from the school showing that we had received that donation.

She also donates for people.

I know that in Clovis, New Mexico, we have a very high drug problem, and she donates privately and sponsors several people throughout our community and surrounding areas to get them into rehabs, and she pays for not only the care that they receive while they're in the rehab, but also for uh care that they receive once they leave the rehab.

I know that that's something that we're needing, and she asks for nothing in return.

She is a very giving person, and I think this is a small portion that we can give to her from Clovis so that she can be not only a legacy in our community, but remain known through the streets and have something there that when we pass by, you know, it just brings her memory back to us.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I have a question.

Has any alternatives been looked at for other streets to be renamed specifically like the one directly south of Alsips?

And Mr.

So per policy and for the city code, in order to rename the street, you have to have property that is contiguous, so adjacent to that street.

And so if they were proposing any other uh street within the city, they would have to own property on that street.

Is that Alfred Libert Avenue not contiguous to them?

So they obviously where the Also's head the old Oslop's headquarters is contiguous to Thornton Street, and that's why that section has been proposed.

Okay, but is Alford Libert Avenue also contiguous because it's right there on their property.

Correct.

I think it's dead.

I want to say that's not actually an official road.

It's never been in Kansas.

I don't think it is a road.

No, I don't think it is either.

May I speak?

Vice Chairman Morton.

Um I too have fond memories of ULSIPs.

Um I remember eating my first Thanksgiving dinner.

I went over to the USIPs down uh on uh between on Grand and buying a turkey roll over there from the frozen food section and splitting it with some of our employees uh that day.

So I have nothing but admiration for the ULSIP family, the ULSIPs that they've done.

It's pretty obvious they have put Clovis on the map.

Uh I did read an article not too long ago of the most recognizable I guess logos or businesses in each particular state, and ULSIPs came up for New Mexico as being the number one uh business known in New Mexico.

Uh but I have some issues um for example uh you know we talk if if we're talking about Thornton and then ULSIP and then Thornton, that would be very confusing.

Uh I'm getting old and I'm gonna have a hard time remembering where Alsip is and where Thornton is and that kind of thing.

But I and I do know that sometimes names are changed for a purpose.

I remember going to Alamogordo Lake one time and showing up in Alamogordo before they changed it to Sumner Lake.

Uh so I think this will cause confusion, but I absolutely I absolutely agree with everybody here that there is no one better for this community than the Alsips family.

I would I would propose that we find something.

I don't know if it's a street, I don't know if it's a park, I don't know if it's renaming City Hall.

I don't know what it is.

Uh but I truly am for honoring the ULSIP family.

Uh they have been extremely uh generous to this community.

The jobs they created, first-time jobs, and and I think that they are they deserve to be no, they earned the right to be honored.

But I am a little bit um I I don't particularly like changing for the various reasons that we're here, but I absolutely agree that we should honor the ULSIPs family in some manner.

Mr.

Chairman, um I agree with everybody here today.

Um I would make a motion to table this item on the order if we find the right thing to do and uh and move forward.

Mr.

Chairman, may I make uh just one comment quickly?

So the uh the 65 or so notices that we sent out cost about $600, and there's a 30-day waiting period by ordinance, so if we tabled it, we would have to resend all those out and then also institute another 30-day waiting period in order to re-hear this matter.

And also to the gentleman's question, um, if there were any other property, and I don't know if there is, but uh they would be allowed to file an application for a street name change if they own other property within the city limits.

Whether that's a residence or a business or uh you know I don't know if they do or not, but that hopefully that answers your question.

Thank you.

Yeah, yeah.

Second the motion.

Mr.

Gar uh uh Commissioner Garza has a motion on the table to uh table this.

Seconded by Commissioner Gherkey.

All those in favor?

Should we do a roll call?

Please, Mr.

Holwall.

Commissioner Sowell.

Yes.

Commissioner Garza.

Yes.

Commissioner Moore.

Yes.

Chairman Klein.

Yes.

Commissioner London.

Yes.

Vice Chairman Martin?

Yes.

Commissioner Gherky.

Yes.

Motion passes.

Chairman, can I interject a thought here?

Sure.

Okay.

Perhaps the city could help us with possibilities.

Not necessarily streets, parks.

Again, I don't know, but I, you know, off the top of my head, I really can't think of anything.

But again, I absolutely 100% agree that the all sub family should be honored.

Because again, as I said, they earned the right.

Yeah, absolutely, Mr.

Chairman.

We're certainly uh happy to work with the applicant uh on any opportunities that may be out there.

If they so choose to uh select a park, uh we obviously have several parks within the community.

Uh I can think of one that currently does not have a name to it.

Um but there is but we would have to work with our parks and recreation uh committee on changing any of those names.

Uh but certainly happy to work with the applicant.

Okay.

Thank you.

Sounds good.

I think we all appreciate that.

Is there anything else?

anybody?

Next meeting will be 3 p.m.

March 11th.

3 39 p.m.

meetings adjourned.