Are we ready to start?

That was my fault, I wasn't paying attention.

We work these sides.

Uh let's get started.

Welcome to the parks, recreation and beautification committee meeting.

Vicky, would you call roll, please?

Commissioner Paula.

Here.

Commissioner Cassows.

Commissioner Porter.

Julie Serena.

Brian Davis.

Hunter McLamore.

Here.

Commissioner Jones.

Michael Perkins.

Here.

Kim Tipton?

Here.

Philip Frazy.

Thank you, Vicky.

Before you in the packet, you have the minutes from our last meeting from May eighteenth.

Have you had time to look them over?

I'll take a motion for approval.

So I have a motion and a second to approve the minutes from May eighteenth.

All those in favor say aye.

Anyone opposed?

Same sign.

The minutes are approved from our last meeting.

At that point in time, we found out that there are rules and restrictions.

So I will kind of turn it over to across the chamber.

Morris because his uh explanation has a lot more legal authority to it than mine.

And so we'll leave that to him to respond to but uh just to let you know that we have not received any feedback from the artist himself.

Okay.

Mr.

Morris Madam Chair So I actually I understand that you have one form of the waiver in front of you.

I actually drafted one before that that I like much much better and it's shorter and it's simpler and it just says you waive all VARA rights period.

We can do whatever we want however we want whenever we want you waive all your rights.

That seems to me to be the way most cities handle it but after reaching out to Albuquerque they took a much softer approach and they wanted to give their artists some you know some deference and some the ability to interject and do the repairs themselves or have some say so.

So after getting their feedback I drafted this second version that you have in front of you.

I didn't put a timeline on it so in the fourth paragraph down it's it talks about in cases of emergency public safety concerns or where immediate action is reasonably required the city will make reasonable documented efforts to notify the artist prior to undertaking significant restoration alteration or repair of the artwork which is essentially we've done in this case it goes on to say upon such notice artists shall have a reasonable opportunity at a mutually agreed and reasonable cost to the city to perform or oversee any necessary repairs, restoration or touch-ups.

And then the next paragraph is where we prescribe the amount of the time they have to respond to us we just write that word reasonable again.

So that's intentional because every situation can be dealt with on a kind of a case by case basis.

The way reasonable is defined under Black's law is it reads courts generally define it as the amount of time that an ordinarily prudent person would consider fair and appropriate under the specific circumstances.

What is quote reasonable and quote depends heavily on the facts industry standards the nature of the obligation the urgency the party's expectation expectation and sometimes local custom or statutory context in this case I think it would make a difference if the person's here local what's a reasonable amount of time versus if they're maybe National Guard and deployed in Afghanistan or or something.

So I think where they are how we notified them was it mail was it a phone call was it email all of that would factor into what we think is reasonable.

Or we could just put a timeline on it.

I think reasonable is a little bit safer but we could put a lengthy timeline on it give them 90 days, 120 days if we wanted to do that.

I don't see why not that's to me that seems like that would be plenty of notice.

Or we can do with away with it all together and just require that they waive all their rights and give unfettered discretion to the city to touch up repair restore et cetera so I'm not sure what the better option is.

I don't know what the market's like whether artists would you know scoff at that first waiver or not all I can say is I've seen that done in other cities just a very basic one page waiver that does that does that.

So that's what I know so far but I would be happy to answer any questions that you have.

Thank you, Mr.

Morris I know that was kind of a big uh question that we had at the last meeting for the the murals that we have I know we have one artist that has said she's willing to waive all of her rights.

Do you think we'll have a difficult time if we have a very basic waiver getting someone to come in and paint murals anyone have a thought I'm not sure and I I also don't know why we couldn't present them both options.

I know we like to have uniformity and have everyone sign the same waivers and I know why but I think we could also treat it on a case by case basis and if there was a particular artist that wanted to change the waiver then we could be open to that so to answer a question I don't know the answer maybe Russell or Justin would know the answer to that I'm not sure.

Okay.

Does anyone on the committee have any questions?

I have a question.

Yes.

So how does the city come to get the murals currently do we pay the artist or does the artist pay us?

No and so we've paid the artist in payment as no fact in this.

And so it's it's indifferent on whether or not we pay them or not.

Okay.

Which is kind of what surprised us originally it's like well I paid you for this and so therefore we thought we had the right to be able to do to whatever we wanted to that art piece but come to find out we don't thank you Commissioner Cass do you have any thoughts?

I don't have any questions.

Okay.

Okay.

Does anyone have anything they would like to make a motion?

Quiet group tonight.

I think I'll make a motion to approve it.

Okay, which one are you referring to?

Uh one that we have here.

Okay.

The I guess the second version.

The second version, which offers them a um reasonable time line.

Yes.

Okay.

All right.

I'll second that motion.

All right.

We have a motion and a second to approve the mural artwork waiver and agreement that is in our packet.

All those in favor say aye.

Aye.

Anyone opposed?

Same sign?

Okay.

Thank you, Mr.

Morris.

Thank you.

Okay.

Next, under new business, we have request for approval to set zoo pricing for Christmas lights and haunting at Hillcrest.

Mr.

Hooper.

Yes.

Stephanie and I have discussed this.

Um falls in part with some of our other pricing stuff that we're looking at with our zoo master plan and some other things going forward.

But uh currently we have two events every year at Hillcrest Park that we'd like to adjust the entry fee for.

There's zoo nights, which is the Christmas lighting, uh where we do lights, and then there's the haunting at Hillcrest.

Uh the zoo nights is right now it's a free event, takes place in December.

Uh basically you come in, you walk in for free.

We'll we've been providing hot chocolate, some other things.

Um I don't want to say we're losing money at it, but on the other hand, we're not making making an opportunity to do that.

Um what we'd like to do is do an entrance fee for the uh Christmas lights at $3 per person, which is the current kids rate.

So adult, child, whatever, bring your family, it'd be $3 per person.

That was our request there on the haunting at Hillcrest.

That's a uh event sponsored by Global Media, Global One Media.

Um last year it had over 3,700 visitors.

I think it was 3,500 the year before.

Uh we have contacted them and spoken with them about it, how they would feel, and they were perfectly fine with raising the cost.

We just suggested that we go from one dollar to two dollars this year and just make an incremental increase, and then we'll see where that goes and then go from there in the future.

And so our request there is to go from uh to two dollars per person from one.

Okay.

Thank you, Mr.

Hooper.

Um I had a thought when I read this on the agenda, and it made me think of we have this request come up quite a bit at the parks committee, and then we have this request come up often in the city commit at city commission meetings, people wanting to come in and use the zoo for different events, um, you know, private events, fundraising events, and it seems like uh, in my opinion, it's time consuming for staff to have to deal with these um requests.

It's time consuming for the parks committee to have to deal and put these requests on the agenda, and it's time consuming for the city commission to have to deal with this over and over again to um put these requests and it and it's prolongs the decision because if the city commission doesn't have a meeting for two weeks, then the group doesn't know.

Um can we tie this to the group admission rate?

Any special event at the zoo could be tied to the group admission rate, which I think is three dollars.

And then if the group admission rate changes at some point, then that would just change.

And then it would just be a set standard when a group comes or the park or the zoo would like to do a special event, then everyone knows that it's the group pricing.

So so right now I believe to answer that.

So like a group trip like a field trip.

Correct.

That's basically two dollars a kid.

So that's where we're at on that.

There's another one.

I looked it up on the website and it said three dollars.

No, right now it's two.

Two dollars.

Okay.

Um we don't really have a group rate for an adult's okay just because we've never sent one.

Okay.

Um we are looking at as we get to the end of the zoo master plan some feedback from them because they've checked the zoos that are the same size within the United States, the same type of populations, the same type of uh admission rates, stuff like that, and trying to show some comparisons of what we could do and what they recommend.

They also did surveys across town and across the state that were people, you know, this much percentage said we would improve approve and increase.

So they're gonna get back with those numbers.

I just don't know if they'll have them back before the revenue review committee, which is one option to do it in.

Um as you know, there's even looking at the zoos across the route, there's like 50 different ways they price from having local, non-local, in state, out of state.

You know, just it gets real it can be real complicated or it can be real simple.

I do know that there was I believe it was an eighty percent of the respondents of the survey said that the zoo needs a price increase.

So I think the appetite is there to do this.

I'm just trying to make it more streamlined for city management for you guys at the parks department when people come before the city and want to have a special event, including the zoo having a special event.

There's just a s a rate for everybody, it's the same thing, and it's not this back and forth every time, and everybody gets a different price based on what people feel like that day.

Oh, totally agree.

It's where some of our issue comes in is they've come to the city commission and then get a free zoo day.

Right.

And no one tells us.

Right.

We we don't necessarily look at every commission meeting and every action, and next thing you know, three days before the event, we're getting called from the county.

Right.

Saying, hey, and then I feel like some groups get different treatment than other groups.

And I would like for for it to be easy for you, Stephanie, so that you know if there's a special event, this is this is the going rate.

It's always tied to the group rate.

Or I mean, what are your thoughts regarding that?

No, I agree.

Um, especially with like Russell stated, we when there's a special event, they don't come to us.

They don't come to me.

They've already been in in they have this habit already that they go to the commission because they already know that it's gonna get approved.

And then we have we had five thousand something people on our last free day, and that's a lot of money that we lost.

You know, because it was an event that we didn't plan and they it they just got approval, you know, and it happens more and more often, I see.

Um so I I agree if if that but even something with like Christmas lights, it's always been free, you know.

So even a little increase is is is we're gonna make money regardless from going from zero to not from going from nothing to something, we're gonna make money.

So that's that's all I want.

So can you tell me about your group admission rates?

What are they currently?

Right now, so like for field trips and everything, it's two dollars.

That goes for everybody.

That's everybody for adults, for children, for teachers, for parents that come, it is two dollars for everybody.

I just looked it up on your website and it says three.

That's what I thought I read.

Maybe it's maybe it's wrong because we're we're only charging two dollars.

Okay.

I'm okay with that.

Okay.

I'm okay with that.

There's three on there.

There we go.

Okay.

Thank you for listening to me and my thoughts.

I will turn it over.

Yes, do you have a question?

Yeah.

Um I'm just curious.

Uh with the two events that we're talking about, um what where do the difference come in between one going up to two dollars and the other one to three dollars.

And somewhere in our conversations back and forth.

We don't want to jump necessarily from one dollar to a three dollar on an event that's been happening for a couple of years.

Um the other hand, the the and that's why we got the I guess the buy-in from the media company.

On the other hand, the other one we've never charged anything.

We probably should have for years.

And so it's like where do we put the starting point at?

Uh we picked the kids rate for everybody, so the adults are getting kind of a break.

But on the other hand, I didn't want to start that one at two dollars, and then next year I'm back for three, and then the year after I'm back, you know, now I bring it up to a reasonable rate.

So we're getting more vendors when we charge.

Perfectly fine with raising money.

Yes.

Uh just what she was talking about the consistency thing, you know.

I think uh if we were to able to get uh a singular number for all types of events and and group outings and things like that, I just I think it'll be um well well received by the public because it's easy to understand.

Um it'll be easier for y'all, you know, charging anything like that.

That's the reason for my questioning.

I I think it's gonna be a little bit harder, especially since we're not the ones that host haunting in Hill Christ.

And we did even ask them like what if we do go to $3, and even they were just like, mm, let's not push it.

Let's not push it, let's start at two.

Um but when it comes to like our events like Christmas in July, regular Christmas, anything else that we have, I'm okay with doing one price for all those special events.

Um when it comes to something like haunting at Hill Chris, that's that might be a little bit harder since we're not the ones really hosting such a big event.

But if you look, you actually had more visitors on the event that you charge.

Oh, yeah.

So I I guess I'm just trying to simplify things and make it easy for everyone across the board, and just I mean, we're talking three dollars here.

You guys need some funding at the zoo.

Yes.

Badly.

Yes.

So I I don't want to continue to shortchange you.

And and I guess, you know, even the our other option on the Christmas lights was just charge regular rates.

Three for kids, six for adults, and then there's no discount.

We just we're charging you to get in the zoo like we're charging you to get in the zoo.

That's exactly what we do for Christmas in July.

It's just a regular rate.

Mm-hmm.

What's your attendance for that?

Christmas?

Um I have it's pretty good.

I have to look at the numbers.

I'll get the numbers for you for next meeting.

But it's pretty good.

We do very good.

And this year we're doing it for the la the last Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday of July.

So that 24th, 25th, 26th, 27th, whatever that is.

Um but that that's when we're doing it.

And um we're already prepping for it and everything, and it's gonna everyone knows there's gonna be bigger and better this year, and we're not we're we're still gonna charge, you know, and that hasn't changed for Christmas in July since since I was able to start it.

But when it came to regular Christmas, that was a little bit harder because everyone knew it's always been free.

So Madam Chair, I agree.

I I think if there's gonna be event out there, we said an event rate.

Right.

And haunting at the zoo.

I mean, and it's like sorry, guys, this is what our rate is for events and it's consistent across the board to keep you guys from having that rate that's bouncing back and forth.

That way when they do the event, it's like guys, here's the event rate.

Yeah.

I was gonna say they spend more money on their costumes than they are getting inside the zoo.

So I I don't think they would have a problem going up on that.

And Stephanie, for your your the events you're hosting, if you want to stick with the same rate, that's I mean, we don't have to tie that to the group rate.

But I I guess I would rather just see, and I'm gonna make a motion to just charge three three dollars the way it shows on the website for any group that wants to come in and do anything at the zoo.

Okay for group for groups of ten or more so that it matches exactly what it says on the website.

And then that is no, don't say three dollars in there, it's tied to the group admission rate.

So then when and eventually we move forward with price increases, we don't have to come back and do this again.

It's just tied to that group admission rate.

Okay.

That's my motion.

I second.

Okay.

All those in favor?

Say aye.

Anyone opposed, same sign?

Okay.

Okay, so and just to clarify, so a field trip.

We just bumped it to three.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

Any event we just bumped to three, and then we'll have to obviously put it in for a yeah.

Sounds like we need to change our signage at the zoo to match what the website says.

Commission, okay.

And does that include these two events, or what are we doing with these two events?

So this haunting hill crest, I I took it as you just raised to three.

Right, okay.

Christmas lights, we charge regular commission.

Okay.

Okay.

Again, take that to city commission going forward.

Correct.

Do we have to take this to the city commission or this was the decision?

Since we're setting rates, I advise that we take it to city commission.

All right.

Very good.

Are we square?

Good.

We're good.

I'm good.

Okay.

All right.

Whoops.

That'll be we'll take it to the next commission meeting and it will be effective after that.

Okay.

That sounds good.

Okay.

Uh here we go.

Here's the fun.

Mr.

Hooper, we just got a bunch of money from some wonderful people.

And we are ready to spend it on some playground equipment.

Yes, we are.

So let's start.

You want to give us a just a general overview?

Yes.

And then we will go park by park.

Does that sound good?

Um so as a general overview, I get hold of five different companies for five different playgrounds.

Uh we've got so from the capital infrastructure, I believe, the state is basically told us we've got 500,000 for Potter Park, Sunset Park, and Pat Sandoval.

Then through the county, we are getting money for Ned Houk, which is a little over a million.

I'm not sure the exact number.

And so that was kind of where we based everything on.

Uh when I met with everyone, I gave them a budget number.

Um, Sunset Park at 120,000, Pat Sandoval at 120, and Potter at 250.

Admission.

I'd left it a little short on the 120s, just so that'll give me some money to buy a park bench or a picnic table or whatever might need to be some extra trash cans.

Kind of just what happens out there.

Um of the five, um the other thing I've given you is up on the top sheet if you've got it, uh, had my playground numbers.

Um kind of score sheet for you.

That way, I mean, however you want to do it, put a plus or a minus, or you like one, you don't like one, or give it a one to ten rating.

I mean, that way when we go back and you say, all right, I want to vote for this one, as we've gone through eight, ten pictures, it might make it just a little easier.

Does that make sense?

It does.

And I'll ask the question I asked you earlier.

Because there's two companies here that can provide playground equipment for all three.

Uh all five playgrounds, correct?

Correct.

So if we were oh, go ahead.

Actually, one company did, which is altitude.

Uh-huh.

And they gave me two bids for every project.

Okay.

But if we were to go with one company for multiple playgrounds, will they give us a discount?

We should be able to get some type of discount, depending on one company sent me something that said if you go with all five, we'll do some extra amenities.

Like, say this picnic tables and park benches.

Another one said if you go over three hundred thousand with us, we'll give you a three percent discount.

Over 500, we'll give you a four percent discount.

Either way, once we wind up picking, and if we have four out of five or three out of five with one company, I can I can always go back and say, okay, now that we're you were selected for these three, what else do we get for it in that package?

So maybe if we're kind of on the fence, it might behoove us to choose the same company.

Correct.

Okay.

I understood.

Um, there's also the on the one of the issues of sunset and Pat Sandoval.

Obviously, it was one company altitude that uh has all gave me four different quotes.

Technically, since they were all 120, if you like two off sunset, we could split them up or two off pat same.

You know, there's some options there within those group.

Um I don't want to mix any up between powwow, obviously, and Potter.

I can't steal necessarily money from one to put to the other.

But of those first four, you know, if you really like two of them, and they're both sunset, we could split those up.

Does that kind of make sense to or if you really just like one of them, we could do it twice.

Change a couple of colors up and things along those lines.

So let me ask you this just to kind of not here till midnight tonight.

Do you have photos on it on the screen up here that we can show, like take Sunset Park, for instance, between option altitude one and altitude two?

Correct.

Or do we just need to look at the packets?

It's on the should be on the screen.

Okay.

I can convey to Sean, we can run.

I mean, however, you want to go through them.

So then on so you made this nice scorecard here for us.

So on Sunset Park, would you like us to pick the label them one and two so we you know which ones we prefer?

Right.

So yeah, there's an altitude one and altitude two.

Okay.

So theirs are always gonna be back to back.

Okay.

So like going through Potter, the first one would be one.

Does that make sense?

Or I mean through like Sunset.

Okay.

And then like on Powow, one, two, three, four, five.

One, two.

That we was lay number them one through six.

Correct.

Or if you just put it beside the in the name of the one you want.

Yeah.

Okay.

So looking through these, I noticed there wasn't very many ones that have handicap um accessible stuff on there.

Technically, they're all ADA and they're all inclusive.

All of them are.

Okay.

Now it depends on how you define handicap accessible, ADA, all inclusive.

There's a whole bunch of different terms there that don't mean the same thing, but kind of are interchangeable, if that makes sense.

Okay.

I just noticed like a swing or something for them.

Then I, Madam Chair, I think that would that is what you were specifically referring to a swing that somebody could roll a wheelchair up on and be able to swing from a wheelchair standpoint.

And we have looked at that in the past, and that's about a how much of a sixty thousand for that one swing, and then not knowing what else you got to go around it.

Now, and some of our options may get into when we get down to let's say the Ned Houck.

So there is some money there.

That could be something you all want to add on.

Well, could that be something we can negotiate if we went with altitude for all of them?

Throw in, you know, a handicap, at least like a swing at one of the parks or something.

I don't think we'd have a budget anywhere except possibly Ned Halk.

Gotcha.

Okay.

I have noticed that um they all do have the harness swings.

And I have seen uh handicapped children at Hillcrest that are swinging in those.

The parent has to pick them up, obviously, and put them in there.

Correct.

But um they have I have seen them in use.

And pretty much like say all of them will have it or some variety of it.

Uh the very last picture in the packet was a semi swing.

So the parent sits on one side can put the toddler in the other, and then they're both swinging on the same swing.

There's options of that too.

Okay.

Is that gonna be widely used enough to make it worthwhile?

Or you know, I mean, that's one of y'all's decisions.

Okay, well, let's start with um sunset.

You want to pull the photos up?

Okay, so this is and it's just a general layout to start with.

Uh basically what I told them is there's a sidewalk there, goes to the existing one.

I'll take everything out past the sidewalk, give you all a blank slate, design something.

And this is the first picture, Sean.

If you want to go ahead and um that's gonna be you can kind of see the swing set, it's gonna be three or four bay, uh two to five, five to twelve.

All of them are supposed to have a two to five, five to twelve swing set, concrete border around it, ADA ramp into it.

Go ahead, Sean.

Just a different angle of the same one.

Um again, slide swings.

That would be the more to the two to five area.

Does that make sense?

Yes.

Okay, now this would go to the number two, if that makes sense now.

The blue one.

He's got me talking fast, doesn't he?

Okay, he does not want to be here very long, I told you.

And and again, the same type of thing.

There's just uh a two to five, five to twelve swing sets in the back.

There's a couple additional pieces here and there, go.

Um kind of is what it is.

Uh right now it's a real small little playground out there at sunset.

Uh, if you're not familiar, it's out by veterans right next door to it.

They're building some duplexes, they've got those going in out there.

I don't know what the kid population is as far as the demographics of that little neighborhood, but yeah, we're just kind of replacing it with what's there.

Go ahead next, Sean.

And you can kind of see the five to twelve in the back, two to five.

Back to the swing set, it's gonna have the one with the pull down, it's gonna have a a child's toddler, whatever you want to call them, and then some adult swings.

Okay.

That was pretty much Potter.

No, Sunset.

Sunset.

I'm gonna skip the name, you know me.

That's fine, you're fine.

Yes.

Okay, so everyone make your choice on Sunset Park.

And what are you gonna just add them up and go with the Yeah, exactly?

I mean, if there's a heavy favorite, however, y'all want to number.

Okay, sounds good.

I'd say pick one or does anybody have any questions on Sunset?

Okay, it's not too tough when there's only two, but there's five of them.

It may but whatever numbering system you use to pick.

All right, we're ready for Pat's hand of all.

Okay, Pat's hand of all, go there, Sean.

Um, kind of same thing, altitude came in.

Um there we go.

Uh, as you can kind of see, there's uh two to five, some five to twelve, but that's more of a mixture playground, but it's still got swings, got the roundabout or whirly wheel, whatever you want to call them.

Merry go round.

I don't know, in today's terminology.

Uh go ahead, Sean.

Again, next kind of see, it's just uh did rubber mulch on all of them.

The uh loose infill, so kind of following the same pattern.

Go ahead, Sean and stop at the okay, stop there.

Um a different one of the same side same company, this would be number two.

Uh one of the differences I kind of noted over here on the left, you can kind of see it's like it's still a balance beam, but it's a log shape.

Uh they threw some of the more natural in there.

Go ahead, Sean.

Yeah, slide swing.

It's kind of obviously there's a smaller park at the 120 um range, it's gonna have less stuff in it than the larger ones.

But it's just this is what is normally considered just a neighborhood park.

It's not made for people across town to come and hang out, it's made for the people that are in that neighborhood.

It's got some good monkey bars, and that should be the last one of that.

The uh the mesh on that one is that what do you know what that is?

Is that just a bungee or back up something?

In between the two.

Um can you see it?

No.

I think if you go see it better.

Okay.

You tell me just it's cargo net area.

Yeah, it's a I want to say I don't know, one inch diameter, it's got metal fibers running through it.

So it's something you've really got to wear out.

It's not a cuttable.

Okay.

Unless you get a torch.

Yeah, it's not a pocket knife.

We we have them at uh Santa Bod uh Goodman Lake may have some rope on it.

I'm not real sure on that one because we just looked at it today.

They know like Ryerson Hill Crest, stuff like that, climbing things.

Anyone else have a question about Pat Sandoval?

Are you guys ready?

And again, of those four, if you like two of them.

I have a question, Justin.

Um that playground that's at the Grand Avenue homes.

Does that belong to the city?

No, ma'am.

That's a first their personal one.

Yes.

Yeah, it's on the south side of US684, actually.

And yeah, that's that's Melrock.

Yep, correct.

That is theirs.

Is there any way that we could give them some of this, the old replaceable from a safety standpoint, and once we uh decommission a playground from a warranty and from a liability standpoint, uh you run into issues with us doing that.

And that's part of the reasons why we haven't ever decommissioned one and say moved it over to Guy Leader in conversations in the past, is that once once we're done with them, we don't want to take on the liability.

And I think it's one of those things, Tor from what I've learned in classes, the original owner is responsible for it throughout its lifetime.

So if we did donate it and someone gets hurt, they can still see the city.

Okay.

Forget that.

I know Jared's real big on taking on extra life.

Which is unfortunate.

I mean, honestly.

I mean, but that's just happens to be the sort of the world that Jared lives in.

Okay, anyone else have a question about Pat Sandoval or need help making a choice?

Okay, very good.

Potter Park.

Potter Park.

Next.

Um, so we had a 250,000 or yeah, 250,000 limit on this one.

Basically, you can kind of see from the picture.

Uh I'm coming off the parking lot.

I'm trying to use the one sidewalk that's there, and then there's a sidewalk that goes at the very top of the picture back to the restrooms, to where I'm coming off there and kind of fitting in the area to where I can use those two sidewalks, keep it near the restroom, keep it near the lights.

Uh so that was kind of the footprint that I gave them to start with.

And again, the same parameters two to five, five to twelve, uh rubber mulch, uh concrete border.

You can go next, John.

This is from a different company, landscape structures.

I believe this one was.

Um, and just the way they presented it, kind of tell you what each feature kind of does, if that makes sense.

What's the name of this company?

What's the name of this company?

It's showing on the sheet as extra play.

Uh landscape structures, I believe this one was.

I'm not extra.

No, that would be a little bit more.

Oh, yeah, it says extra play on the right.

So extra play.

I apologize.

Okay, next.

Next it's an assortment of features.

Again, it's just kind of one of those things that just they they put together.

Um I let them do the artistic or the creativity part of it, as opposed to trying to tell them I need two slides at this height, or that because they all make different things.

You know, you've got a different type of sea uh teeter totter seesaw, whichever way you consider it there.

Um go next, yeah.

Yeah.

Big swing set, so you can have multiple swings.

You can see on the left there, they have a different type of swing.

It's more of a hammock swing.

Um, I know out of Hillcrest they got the big round tire looking swing that everyone climbs on to.

Pretty much all the companies have an assortment.

So if there's something that once we get into and say, look, okay, we like this playground, but I really wish they put in this type of swing or something like that, then just let us know.

So that was uh extra play.

This is the first one from uh altitude.

You can kind of see the overdraft, and there's their options.

Is this what do you say?

Altitude one, altitude one, correct.

Good Sean.

It's got a pretty high.

I want Potter to be more of a destination.

I want it to be a little bit larger.

Um people are coming from all over from the baseball from the we got the pool there.

We've got the new basketball courts, we've got some lighting up.

So this is one of those things where we really want more people to go and play in Potter.

Uh let's be honest.

We can get more traffic in there, it might decrease some other issues.

Uh I believe that's the last one on that, isn't it?

Okay, so this would be altitude two.

Again, I think kind of what he did is he split up and threw some more natural things in here, you know, the climbing rocks, some of the others.

Uh where it could get interesting, if this is the one y'all like, let's say, with some of the more natural features, and you'll see it further along too.

I probably wouldn't be able to use our existing color palette because that's not going to look good in purple in aqua with a rock out there.

So we may have to look at some of that.

Some of the uh there'll be some further along that he picked as a green because it's a tree outline.

Well, that's again not gonna look good as a purple tree.

So but just something to keep in mind.

We can always there's the same color palette, everyone's pretty much got you might call them different things, but do they have options for shading on any of these structures?

They do.

Uh some of these, like this one has some shading.

Uh the problem is most of the shading is a real small over that individual feature, so it's only good for like that five minute interval while the sun passes.

It's not really a sufficient, it's not like a you know screen or a cloud or something.

Um shade structures like those can get real expensive, and I didn't want them eaten up $30,000 of a or 40 or 50.

Yeah.

Yeah, I wondered if they had something like a shade sale to on the front, just kind of try to block.

I mean, it I mean, maybe the kids don't hear too much, but I would think he gets pretty odd.

And that's yeah, it can, it's one of the seasonal things that you know.

Then again, in September, October, you won't get hit.

So it's uh it is a different option.

Um it can also be one of the things that get added on later, but which is knowing a shale uh sales structure is gonna run you what 30, 40.

Yeah, you kind of seen probably some of those numbers on other things.

Probably wouldn't want to do it out of a you know, metal or a yeah, then you're going a whole different route, but it's again it's what you want to invest in.

Do you have the four two construction?

40 or is it 42 construction?

Okay, we're potter.

Yes.

Is that the next one?

Uh next group of slide down.

Yeah, okay.

So there's 42 construction, which is up at the top.

Um again, kind of the same footprint.

A lot of times on these, they will outline the individual features as opposed to outline the whole playground because that's more of a fall area or a no trespass zone, if that makes sense.

You get a certain amount of space around a swing or a certain amount around a merry go round, so that's why this is kind of broken up.

It would be in one footprint.

Uh, that would be the uh five to twelve.

You can see multiple slides at the end.

This one will have some some of the shade.

Go ahead, Sean.

Again, is it really a shade?

You know, is the structure really shaded?

Depends on how you kind of look and think about it.

Gotcha.

Uh go ahead, Sean.

There we go.

Maybe not shade this.

Now, this is the two to five of that same with the same company.

So it's still going in that same overall footprint area.

42.

Just back and forth of the same.

Okay, so I think we've seen all the brands that have sent in an estimate for Potter.

Does anyone have any questions on any of the companies?

Okay, you're good.

Are we ready to move on to NetHouk?

Pow wow.

Stop me if we're going too fast.

Okay, go for it.

We're there.

So now at Pow Wow, it was a little bit different.

According to the master plan, the so pow wow, if you're not familiar, if you go in and go to the north side, the left.

Um, so they put the playground sort of in the center down at the bottom.

There's a restroom in there, there's some other stuff.

So the master plan shows whether it's they showed a round one with a whole bunch of concrete going through it.

Well, that doesn't make sense from a playground point of view.

So I told them they could make it D-shaped, triangular, round, whatever.

I gave them a 350,000 budget for the playground.

If you wanted to do the sidewalks that connect it, because I need a sidewalk going to the north parking lot, sidewalk going to south parking lot, and a sidewalk going to the restroom.

If they wanted to do that, I gave them a budget of uh to do where was it 450?

We have a JOC for concrete, so I I know somebody that can put us in sidewalks if they didn't want to.

Um not knowing what their company structure is, they may felt more comfortable just doing the sidewalks.

So these were all ones that came in.

We had one that did uh came in right at 450, but they included the sidewalks, so some stuff like that.

So if they if it wasn't, then I would have to go out to it, buy me a separate bid for that.

But it's I believe I gave them a 70,000 plate to play with, and I know we can get the sidewalks for that amount, if that makes sense.

Um so this one starts off, which was Burke, which should be the uh AK sales.

Or no, 40.

It's AK, yeah.

I got my order mixed up because a little bit different angle, they'll show you at it.

It's got the two to five, the five to twelve swings.

Um this just kind of let them build a bigger center platform and a more accessories.

And they got three different features.

That was my what AK sales.

That was AK sales.

Um this one is the uh creative rec, which is the one right below it.

Um go ahead and go next.

I'm too nice.

Kind of see now.

This is gonna have an interesting feature.

Uh swing sets, the 512, two to five.

Good next, Sean.

So what they've got here is basically they've got caps that go on that are solar lighting.

So those are lights up top.

It is an option.

Um we can go with their product and not have the solar lights, too.

So it kind of raises the question if that's down in the middle of the bowl and at powwow.

I still got some good long sidewalks going to it, but the only thing lifts in the middle.

So am I still gonna have to put pathway lights or not?

Would it work better if I put four lights around it like I did at Hillcrest and lit the area up?

So not only can you play on the playground, but you can play around the playground.

Kind of some different options there.

The other I'll be honest, it's something new that they're doing.

So I don't know what the longevity or the missing pieces because someone wants to take one home or things along those lines.

It would just I just don't know.

Did you choose this one?

This one.

Couldn't it?

Or did you just still the same creative recreational?

Yeah.

Isn't that this one?

Next so much better.

I don't keep it too much.

They give me a bunch of pictures.

Well, that's what I was looking at.

I was like, wait a minute.

But you can kind of see they put the swings in the middle and put stuff around the outside.

Uh just kind of depends.

Um, again, with either budget, I've got space or room or money as the case may be to add some benches, add some trash cans, add some even picnic tables and shelters.

If we you know, kind of just depends on which one we go with.

Go ahead, Sean.

I didn't know I'd included this many pictures.

No wonder I had 122 pictures.

And that was just that's kind of the overall layout from the the top view for them.

You can go next, Sean.

Um now we're back to uh extra play and some of the similar uh system jumping up around next.

Next big swing set.

Okay, stop.

So now we're down to 42 construction.

Go ahead.

Again, there's gonna be one of those nets down there on the end of that one.

Uh looks like we're going to lose viewer on Disneyland.

Few story building.

Okay.

And just some of the vertical looking at the footprint of it.

Um, and this would be kind of one of those I was talking about that had might have some tree structures or might have something like that.

Designs in it that may not work in purple.

I think I like that one the best.

Okay, hang on there.

Um, so that was those.

Uh 42.

Now we're down to uh altitude one.

Um, if you know, so you can go ahead, but yeah, if you notice on that bottom left, there's a huge spider web structure.

Kind of the way, and you see it close to you, it's just hard to see the ropes.

Um that's one of those things because you can climb all the way up to the top, and the way they designed the fall is technically if you fell from the top, you're gonna hit there's an another layer, so you're not just dropping 15 feet to the ground.

So they've they've done that engineering on it.

Again, just sort of a multi-level up and down.

Got the triple slides, the playing everything from the you know, instruments over there on the left to different design things.

I do too.

After you when you were talking like that, I think, yeah.

And that's where you can kind of see like in that top left.

That's why part of why they call that all inclusive is because everyone can get to those things.

They can't get to everything.

There's also design criteria to where a certain amount of theirplanes activities have to be accessed from ground level.

Some can be accessed from a higher level.

So they all fit within that.

And that was uh altitude one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So now you get into two.

That's what I'm saying.

They're the same.

He had some of the rock structures.

This is where we went more the with the more natural, I guess, if you want to call it that, even though they're man-made.

But unless all of these are one.

But I can see one.

Yeah, I want purple trees out there.

Yeah, it's just it's just a decorative feature that they had to put the poles in for something, so let's stick a tree on, you know.

And in that environment, it may be something that's what I was thinking.

But then the more you sit here and think about it.

It's like they can claim any of it.

But you can also see they're getting bigger as we go.

Back to the same balance beams and some of the other stuff.

I like this layout.

And that was the end of powwow.

Yeah.

This one just doesn't have anything tall.

Okay, any questions on NetHalk powwow.

You guys ready to move on?

Oh, yeah.

All right.

You guys are having all quite the discussion over there.

It's gonna be an awesome playground.

Oh, you guys are thinking, you know, because they're already climbing on the outside of the one at Hill Crest, so that's what we're talking about.

This one they can climb all the way on the top on the outside, they can hurt themselves.

There is a thing called parental supervision.

You would hope.

Oh, yeah.

You would hope.

And then when the parent tells you, oh, they can do whatever they want.

It's like, let me record that.

Say that again.

That's why there's a wave running.

All right, Russell, we're ready for NetHawk patchwork.

So this should be the big one.

Okay.

Um again, this one's sort of on the south side of the park, but it's the south side of that little park.

Um there's a pavilion over there and a current playground, so we'd be removing that playground, and there was a sidewalk on one end, and it's like, okay, make sure it fits in between here and here and connect.

Uh so again, we're back to there's a day and a night version on this one.

I see what you're saying.

I just a friend here.

I hope I have the right.

Yeah, this is creative recreational.

Um, that go ahead, Sean.

I like that that I'm with you.

You can kind of see now that we're elevating to another a bigger park.

Yeah.

And a bigger budget.

Go ahead.

Uh one type of swing, a different type of swing.

So there's they had some space out there, and took use of it.

Sorry to interrupt, but are there is there lighting out there at all on the playground equipment now?

There isn't, is there's not really on the playground.

We put some in.

Uh we put some in that 18 bandshell parking lot.

I've done some in the it working up the park that way, but there's there's some old lights that don't work.

Okay.

Um basically the lighting for let's say uh Hillcrest or Potter that we put in around the playground.

Those were costing about 10,000 to pole.

So if it kind of lets you know, you know, you can do around one, and then you just put multiple heads on them to go different directions.

Okay, sorry to interrupt.

Go ahead.

No problem.

Next.

You can kind of see the two to five at the bottom, and then just different from a musical instruments to hanging to just different features.

All right, so now we're into where are we at?

Altitude.

So this on the altitude one, playworld, uh is that where we're at?

I think maybe what's in the packet is different than can you go to the next picture on the slide?

Uh okay.

Okay, this is still from forty.

This is still from the creative recreational.

So there's that's actually a three different levels of that.

So I think the top, the left one is the main level, and one's at lower level and one's upper level.

Okay.

So now we're into game time, which is altitude one.

Yeah.

Uh so he kind of like I say, there's they're gonna have two, but he kind of went with, you know, one of the features was a plane.

Uh that all the way to the right's a spaceship.

That's cute.

Just kind of something we did.

Uh again, you can kind of tell it's a multi-story, just like all of them.

Uh got the swings.

You're good, John.

Balance beams, steps, climbing.

Uh sometimes it gets real interesting reading some of all right.

This feature does this, which develops this cognitive skill in this age group, and it's like, okay, I would have never thought of that, but someone in marketing has done some really intense work.

Good.

So that was altitude one.

Now this is two.

So do you think all of these are included in one thing?

It's just again, you're back to shade structures, like you're saying, this got some.

Are they really depends on which time of the day and where you're standing?

Unfortunately, with some of these.

Okay.

Yeah.

And that was altitude two.

And I'm sorry, I had these my spreadsheet in the wrong order, but now we're up to 42 construction.

I'm gonna blame it on Vicky because she put the order wrong on the notes.

Okay.

That was me.

Um kind of see the same thing.

There's the the five to twelve, it's got some of the um outdoor feature, your outdoor motif.

Go ahead, John, yeah.

And the top view of that same one.

Or no, this is now gonna be going getting to the two to five.

Go ahead, John.

Um I can say there's a point I get a little worried on this one because we have you know, such an enclosed they they built a little room, if that makes sense.

Um I worry from either a pest point of view or people it becomes someone's nap room.

Is the case may be, but then again, it may not be that may not be as much of an issue as I'm thinking.

Let's just get this one.

Yeah, okay.

You're good.

And this was the the last swing I was talking about to where you get an adult on one side and the kid on the other.

That looks like you could fling your child like a side.

Oh, yeah, it's neat.

But yeah.

And you know, is it really something that would be used that often?

So that may not be something that interests anybody, but they all are gonna have something similar.

Okay.

Any questions on patchwork?

Okay.

Russell, you did an excellent job.

Thank you.

I think it looks like everyone's charts are more or less filled out.

How about we pass them, pass them down?

Oh, sorry.

You're good.

No.

Thank you.

I don't know if there's a obvious consensus or if we're gonna have to do algebra to get to the Oh, I didn't do all that.

I just put a lot of what I liked.

Just glancing at it, looks like altitude is a big winner.

So we'll just let you go with these.

Okay.

Do we need to make an actual choice tonight?

But it look I'm just glancing at it.

And you can look at it too, but looks like altitude is the winner for most people.

Whether it's a one or a two, or um I get a three check mark as opposed to a two and a one.

Yeah.

No, I'm just making sure the three's higher.

Three is higher.

Okay.

I'm gonna pick the hand of the solar lights.

Okay.

Uh that's fair.

One through six.

Is one higher or six higher?

One is better.

One's number one.

Okay.

Most like one.

Should we put our names on them so you can ask us questions if you need to?

I just picked the one that I only did one.

That's what I did.

What does this symbol mean?

What is this?

You know what I mean?

I think that answered, like say I got a couple of them that are better.

I'm just looking at see what the kids are jumping off the outside of it.

No, and that really is.

If there was a second choice, you're you're saying that's an option.

Yeah.

Um was there any on Pat Sandoval or Sunset that you would want to move both of them to one?

Or would we be good with the way we split them all?

So what I did is I put uh one through four on those.

Brian, you made it difficult.

Okay, I'll say you're one, two, three, four.

Okay.

Between the just for those.

And then everything else is correct.

Okay.

I can do that now.

I don't think I want to do the same playground equipment at multiple parks, because then you can is that what you're asking?

No, say let's say we talked that we played.

I think you did sunset one and sunset two, and then move one of those over to Pat Sandball.

For different different things.

I see what you're saying.

But once I go through this, I'll see, hey, we got time, we don't have a time.

I can reach back out to the email.

And Madam Chair, for the record, we actually don't have any money in hand right now.

And we're waiting on drain agreements.

And so we didn't have to do that.

Time is on our side.

For Russell to clean this up.

It's our wish list, got it.

Maybe Russell can go back to altitude and say, hey, they really like what can you do for us.

And that may um and that was one of the other uh things too.

If we had a uh hard tie.

Well, they you might want them both to come in here and do a presentation on theirs.

I don't think that's gonna be the situation on this, but that's kind of why we started now.

Okay.

So now we can I think we pay him the big bucks to figure this out.

We gave him good guidance.

Yeah.

Okay.

Are we good to move on?

Mr.

Howalt.

It's at your discretion, Madam Chair.

Okay, well then absolutely we are moving on to reports.

Uh Stephanie, what you got going on at the zoo?

I didn't make a PowerPoint only because I knew Russell had 122 pages to go through, and I know everyone wanted to get out of here, so I only had three updates.

Um my first update is that um I um went to Albuquerque with my maintenance um specialist, Jack, and we actually went ahead and took a chemical immobilization course.

And um pretty much what it was, it was teaching us how to use Dart tranquilizers and how to measure the proper the um measure properly measure.

There we go.

The the dosages for all the chemicals and all the drugs and everything.

So uh we know how to do that now, so in case something happens, we know how to properly dart something, and we are certified in that.

We took our tests, we're good, we passed, so yay.

Um we are currently still working on the master plan, and so far it's going fantastic.

Um that's my update on the master plan.

If you'll have any if you want more details or want more questions, or have any questions, I can definitely give you more details.

It's going so far.

We've reorganized how the zoo is going to look in 20 years, and so far it's it's it's going.

It's going.

Um and then my last update is uh as of two days ago.

We have three little new um babies in the Hillcrest Park Zoo family.

Um Raya and Poomba, our warthogs had three baby warthogs.

Oh piglets.

So we have that.

Very nice.

Thank you, Stephanie.

That's it.

Wonderful.

Amy.

We're ready for a recreation.

Hey.

I'm gonna try to make mine quick as well.

I do have a little PowerPoint, just some pictures of the floor at Roy Walker.

I some of you may have come in to see it.

I know Justin has been there, but I thought if you hadn't, I'll just show some pictures.

But first, uh just we've still got a lot of people coming in throughout the day to use the weight room, play pickleball.

Right now, the pickleball people are trying to use the um quartz at Hillcrest a lot.

Um I've had to kind of adjust temperatures in the gym for them because I get a little hot, so they want me to turn it down.

And but they try to go over to Hillcrest as much as they can.

So, but they were all there this morning, so it was it was pretty packed.

Um evening activities, Zumba on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday nights.

I know I've talked about that, and she's still holding pretty solid on 15 to 20 people every single every single week.

Uh she's got her, she's got all their phone numbers, and the I mean, sh it's it's a pretty cool deal.

We have decided to discontinue the karate.

We were not having any kind of success with karate at all.

Um he would come in and they live at the base, and he would sit there for 15 minutes and nobody would come in.

And then he would leave.

Um so I talked to him, and and we just kind of decided that it was probably time to try something else because I did have a lady come in and she's wanting to offer yoga.

So it's starting um this Wednesday.

She's gonna start with Wednesday nights at six and Saturday mornings at eleven.

And then she's kind of gonna she's gonna see where the interest is on those two, possibly drop Saturday if there's not a whole lot of interest on that.

But she's licensed, her name's Melissa Jackson.

She does have a website.

She's actually from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

She's here with her son with the military right now.

Don't know how long she's gonna be here, but I told her, hey, you if you're here four months, fantastic.

It's it's you know, let's let's offer it.

So she's excited, and so she's gonna hold it in the same room that Zumba on the night Zoom is not there.

Um so uh let's see.

And then I'll go ahead and throw the aquatic center in there.

Sh that's been pretty incredible to watch how they do that whole thing with that pool.

I know I get on the cameras and I'm like, oh my goodness, how they have just broke all that plaster up and whipped basically wheel bearing out of there instead of using a robot or a scoop or something.

It's been pretty neat.

Um so I think on the 27th is when they're supposed to re-plaster, and then um she's gonna start filling it up on the 28th or the 29th of this month, and then she said it might take another couple of weeks to clean everything because of all the dust.

Uh so anyway, um, and then she said the splash pad and potter have been doing really good.

The numbers have been really, really good of people uh utilizing those those two things.

So what is wrong, Russell?

I have no idea.

These two are excited about yoga.

You're asking me if I'm going to be able to do that.

She does, uh she does offer virtue, she offers online.

I mean, she videos herself and she does streaming while she's live.

So it's it's pretty cool.

So uh I'm excited.

I hope that it's kind of you know, like Zumba didn't start out real strong, but after about a month, I mean people were get word of mouth.

Okay, so uh the flooring was completed uh in the North Gym at Roy Walker on June 9th.

Um it was it was really I I'm one of those females that likes to watch construction because I just I just think it's really neat to see the progress from the start to the finish.

Uh and so I've got a few pictures.

Um it does look amazing.

So as you can see, the first step they they go through and they kind of lightly sand the old floor and then sweep it many, many times.

Then what they do is they put like um oh what is it called?

What was that chemical?

Pull well, yeah, but um some kind of something on it.

They use a big a big thing to scrape it across the floor.

So that's the next step that they do, and you can see it just they do it all the way across, and then at some point they go in and they paint the top of that.

So that's the picture on the left there, and they they tape and they have this big huge um compass that they use and they go through and they tape it.

It was really interesting to see.

Then they come through and they hand paint all of the lines.

Um so it it's it's really it's been really neat to watch them do it, and of course it's done.

And that was just some pictures of them while they were getting it done.

It took it really didn't take a complete three weeks to to do because they would come in two to three days of one week and then leave, let it dry, then come back.

Um do you have that last picture where it shows what's his name?

Oh Sean, do you have is that the last picture you had?

I think I thought I sent some more.

That was it?

Okay, thank you.

Well, anyway, I'll show you all the finished product next time.

Thank you.

Or come see it.

Perfect.

Amy, we had a question.

What was the name of the yoga teacher?

I'm sorry.

What was the name of the yoga teacher?

Melissa Jackson.

Okay.

She spells her name uh M-A-L-Y-S-S-A.

Melissa.

Okay, thank you.

Any questions?

So go back to the pool one more time.

June 28th to 29th, they're gonna fill up the pool.

Is there a an ETA on the opening of the pool?

She told me there's no specific date because they don't know how long it's gonna take to clean the deck, clean all of the stuff that's in there, get all the dust out.

Um she didn't really have a specific date.

But she was expecting maybe a couple of weeks after they fill it to get the chemicals and um to answer the last time I spoke with them.

So they'll come in this that Saturday morning.

They're gonna get there and they w Diana's gonna open it up around four o'clock in the morning.

So they can start plastering once they get the plaster up to a a certain height, they want us to put the hose in it and start filling up water.

Once that water gets to a certain depth, then we can open the main so we're not messing up the plaster.

Uh we've been told like three weeks to where for the first three weeks we need to brush it twice a day.

Um it's a matter of the curing process is gonna really mess up the pH.

It it'll be okay on chlorine, but the pH is gonna be real off.

Gotcha.

Okay, just curious.

So yeah, now we start looking mid July.

Okay.

Maybe late July.

It'll also depend on the transition from there to Potter to back to how our lifeguards are sitting and how we do everything.

Okay.

Uh Russell, do you have a parks update?

Sure.

Um the baseball fields, all five of the little leagues, the lights have been installed.

Um it's just a world of difference from the old ones.

They really are make things brighter.

Uh we've done a lot of irrigation repairs.

We knew it going in, so they're gonna have to trench lines because a lot of the old ones went overhead.

Now everything's underground, so we should have less issues obviously going forward.

Um the fountain has been delivered.

The install is either scheduled for late this week, early next week.

I'll go ahead and say that, but I did give them a hard deadline.

I gotta have it running for the fourth of July because I want some red, white, and blue fountain out there.

So we've got that.

Um we'll see.

Found Helen.

We had uh 91 teams at our soccer tournament.

Uh there were 35 adult and 56 youth, so we had a real strong turnout for that.

Um the custom classic is this weekend.

We're gonna be getting a large dumpster out there.

I already talked public works.

So they'll be putting a big one out out by the street.

We'll have some polycarts out there just to help with some of the clean it up.

Um about the only other thing we've gotten is we were contacted earlier in the year by the uh Center for Global Health at Un University of New Mexico Health Sciences Center um about doing some mosquito trapping.

So we've got uh Joe on my pesticide applicator has started doing that.

We're trying to figure out a way to make sure because you've got to get dry ice to make collect the samples that'll be in like four or five, six locations across town.

Then we actually collect the mosquitoes.

He goes through and sorts them.

They ship them off to Albuquerque who determines what type of mosquito they are, because different mosquitoes carry different diseases.

Then they'll actually test the individuals and find out if we do have Qlix, whatever that carrying a West Nile virus or carrying you know, some of these other things.

So this is the first time they've ever done anything on this side of New Mexico.

Um everything else has been in Albuquerque up until now.

Um just something we're doing on side, just try to help and get our foot in the door.

There's possible funding coming up in the future.

So we wanted to be on the forefront of it so we can be City Club has participated in the survey to determine this so that way hopefully we can work on some funding later on.

Just an interesting little thing that's going on.

Thank you, Russell.

Mosquitoes need to be alive.

No.

So we trap them to kill them or put them in the dry ice, which kills them, then you ship them off there.

I think they got to put, you know, they get so many of them and put them basically in a blender and then do it DNA test and do everything else on them.

Uh there's a job for everybody.

Now, if we send we can send live ones that they'll do a chemical analysis and see if they're resistant to what the chemicals we're using.

Because that'll be probably something late done a little bit later in the year.

But we're still spraying.

Yes.

Okay.

Yes.

And we have we have started that process.

Thank you, Russell.

All right.

We are at for the good of the order.

Miss Burroughs, are we doing yard of the month?

Yard of the summer?

Yes, good evening, madam chair, members of the creation and beautification committee.

Yes, I wanted to let the public know that we are going to be doing out of the month this summer.

Um so if anybody would like to participate in the program, uh please contact the city manager's office and follow it all on Facebook.

We're going to be uh releasing that information within the next couple of weeks.

Okay, very good.

Thank you.

And people can vote online when when they see that come up.

Okay.

I do have one question um for the good of the order.

Do we know a timeline when the uh golf course is gonna redo the netting for the driving range?

Thank you about it.

I just had a ball hit the top of my cart.

Yeah, so um don't park there.

Um and so the the No we've actually I I've talked to a touchstone and so or Kemper, and so they are getting prices on uh netting itself.

Uh we're actually taking some of the poles from the lights that we're taking down, storing them over at the golf course uh to where maybe we can have some higher poles, not necessarily those ones, but some higher poles at the start of the driving range and then start to stair step it down the further away you get from the T boxes or from the driving range itself.

Uh but it we don't have a price on it, but it's definitely it's something that's on our radar.

Oh, so they haven't even ordered the netting yet.

Oh no.

Oh, okay.

I thought the netting was here and we're just waiting on installation.

Yeah, no.

Okay.

Watch out if you play golf.

Um okay, anyone else?

All right, very good.

Our next meeting will be Monday, July 20th at 5 30 p.m.

here in the North Annex.

We are adjourned.