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Crestwood, Missouri Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting – April 3, 2025

Board of Aldermen & Boards — Thursday, April 3, 2025
BodyCrestwood, Missouri
SessionBoard of Aldermen & Boards
DateThursday, April 3, 2025
StatusFILED
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0:16

Good evening.

0:17

Good evening.

0:18

Yeah, you too.

0:22

Have I changed?

0:24

No, I would just say.

0:28

Any any changing cannot be for the good at this point.

0:37

So I have noticed.

0:38

This is not scientific, but I had noticed absolutely no increase in the enrollment at Planet Fitness since the since the big sign was.

0:52

So I did again.

0:53

This is not scientific, but I'm fine again.

0:56

I I have always gone.

0:57

I even went there when there was only when there was a small sign.

0:59

I was able to find it.

1:05

No, I go I go at pretty much the same time, the same day, same, you know.

1:10

So I've got what you know again, not scientific, but it's at least, you know.

1:15

They did put in three new pieces of equipment after we passed the and they proudly when they proudly announced it, you know.

1:27

To like your subscription, like they knew these knees they had pictures, these this new equipment is coming.

1:33

I thought it was hilarious.

1:38

He tends to just take his regular spot.

1:42

Exactly.

1:52

Oh, thank you.

2:02

I've sat in that spot once and I thought, you know, excited people, they've got the best of you because you have to like lean forward and turn your head to talk to people.

2:30

I didn't get in.

2:33

Yeah, mine's storms.

2:34

That's what it seems to be.

2:35

Yeah, I was I didn't get it.

2:36

I didn't get any buzzing on my clothes.

2:39

Although I was driving into the tornado at Potosi when it was coming and turned around.

2:49

I was heading toward DeSoto and I said NATO was spotted ten miles west of Petosi's heading northeast, you know.

2:59

After that, they said it there was one on the ground, but it dissipated rather quickly.

3:03

Yeah, there I saw it and I actually saw a picture of it.

3:06

Somebody had, you know, of course, one of those storm chaser things, you know.

3:09

It definitely looked like a tornado.

3:11

That's wild.

3:13

Yeah, I've never been interested in chasing storms.

3:16

I prefer that.

3:20

Is that is it is it working?

3:23

How do you know?

3:27

Is that all is that all I need to do, Danny?

3:29

Are you everything else good?

3:39

I don't know.

3:43

Yeah, I was gonna boxes.

3:58

I think that's I think that's that is slow.

4:01

Uh okay.

4:02

Although the clock on the wall does not say six o'clock, the clock on my phone does say six o'clock.

4:08

So we are going to um call to order the meeting of the Crestwood Planning and Zoning Commission.

4:15

Um before we call roll, um could I get everyone to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance?

4:26

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

4:41

Patrick, when you're ready, would you give us a roll call to confirm our quorum?

4:45

Yes, sir.

4:47

Commissioner Charbonneau?

4:48

Here.

4:48

Commissioner Bundry?

4:50

Here.

4:50

Commissioner Posterman?

4:52

Here.

4:52

Commissioner Seven?

4:53

Here.

4:54

Commissioner Riversword.

4:56

Excused.

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Summary of Proceedings

Crestwood, Missouri Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting – April 3, 2025

The Crestwood Planning and Zoning Commission met on Thursday, April 3, 2025, at the Aldermanic Chambers of the Crestwood Government Center, 1 Detjen Drive, Crestwood, Missouri. (Note: the published agenda was dated Wednesday, April 2, 2025, and the official meeting timestamp is April 3, 2025; the transcript references the agenda date.) The commission approved a fence exception, recommended approval of a rezoning and preliminary development plan for Crestwood Crossing, approved the companion subdivision plat, discussed draft residential fence code amendments, and received an informal aldermanic report.

Call to Order and Roll Call

  • The Pledge of Allegiance was recited, roll call was taken, and a quorum was confirmed.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of the February 5, 2025 Planning Commission meeting minutes: no additions, deletions, or corrections were offered, and the minutes were approved.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • No member of the public spoke during the general public comment period for non-agenda items.

New Business: Fence Exception Request – 9253 Lurline Drive (Fence-1-25)

  • Staff reviewed the request for a fence exception and stated that the strict application of the fence code would substantially impair the reasonable use and enjoyment of the property, and that the exception would be in harmony with the code's purpose; in staff's view, the applicant meets the criteria for approval.
  • No public testimony was offered.
  • The commission voted unanimously by roll call to approve the fence exception.

Public Hearing: Crestwood Crossing Phase 3 and Partial 2B – Change of Zoning and Preliminary Development Plan (ZON-1-25)

  • Applicant Deerberg's Crestwood Crossing LLC requested a change of zoning to a PDC (Planned Development Commercial) District for outparcels at 9291 Watson Road, 9415 Watson Road, and part of 9507 Watson Road, accompanied by a preliminary development plan to construct freestanding commercial retail and restaurant buildings on the outparcels as Phase 3 and part of Phase 2B of the Crestwood Crossing development.
  • Staff reported that the TIF agreement called for a Quick Trip gas station within the redevelopment plan and that the city would reasonably consider and support a zoning change to permit that use.
  • Staff recommended applying C1 base district regulations with one modification: increasing the rear yard setback from 25 feet to 50 feet to establish a more generous buffer between the commercial uses and the single-family homes to the north. All proposed buildings are one story, and staff recommended limiting each lot to one curb cut, with no more than one curb cut onto Watson Road.
  • Staff noted that a 25-foot-wide landscape buffer cannot fit between the proposed commercial development and the single-family homes to the north.
  • The applicant stated the section was always intended for development after the initial phase (the Deerberg's grocery store and the western outparcels, which include two restaurant users); explained that the applicant had not previously controlled the subject parcel (the former City Music parcel), which is why the rezoning and preliminary development plan are sought now; and stated no end users have been finalized for any of the sites. The applicant also noted the city and MoDOT are actively working on sidewalk and pedestrian access improvements.
  • Written public comments were submitted, including one from a nearby resident questioning the buffer and its landscaping.
  • Commissioner discussion included: prior uses on the outparcels were not as heavily trafficked as the proposed uses; a commissioner stated 100% agreement with the applicant's addition of a 30-foot drive at the end to remove left-turn movements; questions about whether drive-through restaurants could be approved on all of the lots or only some; and a question about replacing required plantings with arborvitae, which the applicant said was driven by concern that the root systems could threaten the structural integrity of the retaining wall.
  • The commission recommended approval of the preliminary development plan and PDC rezoning by roll call vote; the recommendation will go to the Board of Aldermen for final action.

Public Hearing: Crestwood Crossing Plat Two (PLAT-1-25)

  • Deerberg's Crestwood Crossing LLC also submitted a subdivision plat to resubdivide lots, including part of Crestwood Crossing Adjusted Lot A and two additional tracts.
  • Staff recommended approval of the subdivision plat.
  • No public comment was offered.
  • The commission approved the plat with staff recommendations by roll call; the recommendation will go to the Board of Aldermen for final action.

Discussion: Residential Fence Code Amendments

  • Staff presented draft amendments to the residential fence code, including: allowing minor sections of fence to be repaired without permit approval, typically to match the existing fence material, without bringing the entire fence up to code; and a proposed rule that if a neighbor's driveway is within 20 feet of a proposed side-street front-yard fence, the fence must be set back at least 20 feet, or placed 10 feet back with an open-style material.
  • Staff added red-line language cross-referencing the property maintenance code for additional emphasis.
  • Commissioners discussed how many properties in the city would be affected (for example, five versus twenty lots) and compared the city's rules to the City of Kirkwood's approach.
  • No vote was taken; the item was presented for commission discussion.

Aldermanic Report

  • Alderman Kennedy provided an informal report, covering two Board of Aldermen meetings held since the commission last met, including: the city is not intending to use eminent domain, and most if not all residents are interested in selling voluntarily; the parking design preserves almost all of the trees, with perhaps a single tree to be removed; the new Crestwood Community Center went out to bid after about a year of preparation; and the White Cliff Bridge contract requires completion before Memorial Day weekend or the contractor will pay massive penalties to the city, with no negative reports received to date.
  • Alderman Kennedy will attend the next commission meeting informally to say his goodbyes.

Key Outcomes

  • Approved the February 5, 2025 meeting minutes.
  • Approved Fence-1-25 (fence exception, 9253 Lurline Drive) by unanimous roll call.
  • Recommended approval of ZON-1-25 (Crestwood Crossing Phase 3 and Partial 2B rezoning and preliminary development plan) with staff recommendations by roll call; forwarded to the Board of Aldermen.
  • Approved PLAT-1-25 (Crestwood Crossing Plat Two) with staff recommendations by roll call; forwarded to the Board of Aldermen.
  • Discussed draft residential fence code amendments; no action taken.
  • Noted that no new development applications are expected for the next meeting, and Alderman Kennedy will make a farewell appearance.

Meeting Transcript

Good evening. Good evening. Yeah, you too. Have I changed? No, I would just say. Any any changing cannot be for the good at this point. So I have noticed. This is not scientific, but I had noticed absolutely no increase in the enrollment at Planet Fitness since the since the big sign was. So I did again. This is not scientific, but I'm fine again. I I have always gone. I even went there when there was only when there was a small sign. I was able to find it. No, I go I go at pretty much the same time, the same day, same, you know. So I've got what you know again, not scientific, but it's at least, you know. They did put in three new pieces of equipment after we passed the and they proudly when they proudly announced it, you know. To like your subscription, like they knew these knees they had pictures, these this new equipment is coming. I thought it was hilarious. He tends to just take his regular spot. Exactly. Oh, thank you. I've sat in that spot once and I thought, you know, excited people, they've got the best of you because you have to like lean forward and turn your head to talk to people. I didn't get in. Yeah, mine's storms. That's what it seems to be. Yeah, I was I didn't get it. I didn't get any buzzing on my clothes. Although I was driving into the tornado at Potosi when it was coming and turned around. I was heading toward DeSoto and I said NATO was spotted ten miles west of Petosi's heading northeast, you know. After that, they said it there was one on the ground, but it dissipated rather quickly. Yeah, there I saw it and I actually saw a picture of it. Somebody had, you know, of course, one of those storm chaser things, you know. It definitely looked like a tornado. That's wild. Yeah, I've never been interested in chasing storms. I prefer that. Is that is it is it working? How do you know? Is that all is that all I need to do, Danny? Are you everything else good? I don't know. Yeah, I was gonna boxes. I think that's I think that's that is slow. Uh okay. Although the clock on the wall does not say six o'clock, the clock on my phone does say six o'clock. So we are going to um call to order the meeting of the Crestwood Planning and Zoning Commission. Um before we call roll, um could I get everyone to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Patrick, when you're ready, would you give us a roll call to confirm our quorum? Yes, sir.

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