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Public Works Board Meeting – July 17, 2025

Board of Aldermen & Boards — Thursday, July 17, 2025
BodyCrestwood, Missouri
SessionBoard of Aldermen & Boards
DateThursday, July 17, 2025
StatusFILED
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3:39

I can go get one.

3:47

Thank you, sir.

4:14

I'll order the uh thank you.

4:25

Let's start with leaders.

4:37

Yes.

4:47

Okay.

4:48

Um sir.

4:53

Chairman Letty.

4:54

Here.

4:55

Commissioner Welkie.

4:57

Here.

4:58

Commissioner Bankie.

5:00

Here.

5:00

Commissioner Betts.

5:03

Excuse.

5:03

Excuse.

5:05

Commissioner Chase.

5:06

Here.

5:07

Commissioner Kissle.

5:09

Here.

5:10

Commissioner Cruzel.

5:12

Excuse me.

5:13

Excuse.

5:14

Alderman Representative Ballas.

5:16

Here.

5:17

Alderman Representative Morrison.

5:19

Here.

5:20

We have quorum.

5:22

Thank you.

5:27

Yeah, so we'll be pushing the uh we'll be pushing the uh approval of the past minutes to the next meeting and approve those both at that time.

5:41

Okay, public comments.

5:42

Uh as you can see if you wish to make public comment, you may do so at this time.

5:46

Please raise your hand.

5:48

And then come to the podium, state your name and address for the record.

5:51

And please keep your uh comments to five minutes to have anybody who wants to make comment.

6:09

That picture is passed out if that's all right.

6:12

Um I wanted to address uh um please uh state your name and your oh I'm sorry.

6:17

Um my name is Janice Butler.

6:19

This is my husband Bill Butler.

6:21

We live at 9219 sharing broke lane.

6:26

Um we own uh four Dazzle Class B minivan, and I wanted to talk to you about the um parking ordinances for RV parking in front of homes, and I understand the ordinance, it's um three days on the driveway for loading and unloading um or in the street.

6:53

Um because this class B is classified in RB, um, we're following the ordinance for that.

7:00

We're trying to, and having a lot of um harassment from one neighbor in particular about having the van too long in our driveway.

7:13

As you can see from the picture, it's the size of a van.

7:18

It's on a van chassis, it is no bigger than uh 12 or 15 passenger family van or an ADA you know van to transport someone in a wheelchair.

7:33

Um it's kind of a little sloppy job parking there because uh it was the first day we had it, but you can see from the stripes that it fits in an average parking spot.

7:47

We bought the van for travel, but we also bought it to be an extra vehicle to use.

7:54

Um my husband and I both have our own cars, we were hoping this would replace one of the cars, and we can use it for everyday errands.

8:02

We've used it because it's a van, we've been able to use it to help people transport um furniture, we help someone move a freezer, um, we're doing home construction, so we can go to Home Depot or Lowe's and get two by fours and sheets of plywood.

8:19

We don't have to rent one of their vans to bring something back.

8:23

So it's come in handy, and um we have used it around town.

8:28

Um matter of fact, we had a complaint when a police officer came for our house.

8:32

He goes, Oh, yeah, I've seen your van around town.

8:35

I've seen you driving because on the back of the van we have a map of the United States, and we put stickers on it and we visit that state, and so our neighbors love the van.

8:46

They're always checking to see you know where we've been traveling to.

8:51

Um, when they found out that we have one complaining neighbor, um they're all appalled.

8:59

They're like, well, why would you complain about that?

9:01

I don't understand what's the problem.

9:03

Well, it's classified in RV, so we have to follow those rules in their way.

9:08

Well, that's ridiculous.

Discussion Breakdown — Share of Meeting
Sign Ordinance███████████████████████████████31%
Water And Wastewater Management███████████████████████████████31%
Public Works█████████9%
Fiscal Sustainability███████7%
Procedural█████5%
Vacant Property Management████4%
Public Safety███3%
Economic Development██2%
Transportation Safety██2%
Summary of Proceedings

Public Works Board Meeting – July 17, 2025

The Crestwood Public Works Board met on July 17, 2025, at 7:00 PM in the Aldermanic Chambers. The board deferred approval of previous meeting minutes, heard public comment, received reports from the interim director and aldermanic representative, and discussed the sewer lateral policy, RV parking regulations, and the capital improvements program (CIP) list. No formal votes were taken.

Consent Calendar

  • Approval of minutes was deferred to the next meeting.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • Janice Butler (9219 Sheringbroke Lane) addressed the board regarding the city's RV parking ordinance. She owns a Class B motorhome (a conversion van) and described it as a 20-foot-long, 10-foot-high vehicle that fits in a standard parking space. She stated that the vehicle is registered as an RV, which subjects it to restrictive parking rules (72-hour limit for loading/unloading in driveways). She requested that the ordinance be amended to allow Class B RVs to be parked in driveways for everyday use, possibly with a special permit. She argued the vehicle is similar in size to a passenger van and is used for travel and errands. She expressed that neighbors support her, but one neighbor has complained. She also asked for an exception for Class B vehicles from the general RV restrictions.

Director’s Report

  • The interim Public Works Director (deputy city administrator) reported that Director Swingle left for the private sector. He introduced himself and noted that Shirley, the usual administrative assistant, was hospitalized with pneumonia.
  • Staffing: Announced a new building maintenance technician, Doug Holmes. The city is seeking street maintenance workers.
  • Project updates: Street slab and sidewalk replacements are underway (approximately 140 slabs being replaced). Six new street lights have been confirmed with Ameren, but not yet scheduled. The community center groundbreaking has occurred, with foundation pouring expected in 2-3 weeks. New asset management software (Brightly) is being rolled out. Other projects (Spelman sidewalk, Crowley Creek OMCI, Joseph Sabton House, stormwater projects) are in progress.
  • He thanked the board for past work on sewer lateral policy, CIP lists, sidewalks, traffic calming, RVs, boats, trailers, food trucks, and stormwater policy.

Aldermanic Report

  • Alderman Representative (likely Ballas or Morrison) reported on the Spelman Creek flooding issue. The city, in cooperation with MSD, has purchased four homes for demolition and will return the land to parkland, preventing future building. They are working on slow development at the racetrack site and Crestview Plaza (old Balby Mall). The Forest View apartments have numerous code violations; the city is considering receivership. The Joseph Sabington House log cabin foundation is set. Traffic calming on Crestoke has received mixed feedback; the program is moving forward with striping at Ferndale. The city adopted a resolution for the regional hazard mitigation plan to qualify for FEMA funding.

Discussion Items

Sewer Lateral Policy

  • The interim director initiated a discussion about paying for cleanout installations on sewer laterals even when there is no break. Currently, the city only covers repairs for breaks; cleanouts are the homeowner's responsibility unless installed during a repair. The policy discussion included:
    • The city budgets $110,000 per year for sewer lateral repairs, averaging $2,700 per repair, covering about 40 homes per year. There is a $400,000 fund balance.
    • A cleanout can be added for a few hundred dollars when a repair is already occurring.
    • Cleanouts allow better maintenance (hydro-jetting, larger cutters) to prevent root clogs, which are common in the city’s aging clay pipes (50+ years old).
    • Options discussed: paying for cleanouts on a case-by-case basis, splitting cost 50/50 with homeowners, or maintaining current policy.
    • Board members expressed support for including cleanouts when feasible, noting it benefits homeowners and the city long-term. Some suggested educating homeowners about maintenance. No decision was made; discussion will continue at a future meeting.

RV Parking (Item 14-167)

  • The board considered a referral from the Board of Aldermen to update parking codes for Class B light-duty RVs (e.g., conversion vans like the Sprinter). The specific request had two parts:
    1. Allow Class B RVs (under 12,000 lbs, van-sized) to be parked in driveways in front of the building line, as they are similar in size to everyday vans.
    2. Allow occupancy of such vehicles for up to three weeks, three times per year (for guests or personal use).
  • Discussion highlighted that the vehicle in question (Janice Butler's) is registered as an RV but looks like a standard van. Board members debated:
    • Some argued that if the vehicle meets size/weight requirements for a standard vehicle, it should be allowed regardless of its interior RV features.
    • Others expressed concerns about setting a precedent, potential for rental use, and enforcement difficulties.
    • The three-week occupancy provision raised safety and policing concerns. The interim director noted the code is unclear on sleeping in vehicles on residential property and will consult the city attorney.
    • No consensus was reached; the board will continue discussion at a future meeting after further research.

Capital Improvements Program (CIP) List Introduction

  • The interim director distributed the current CIP list with scores from previous years. The list includes projects from the parks master plan and others. The board will formally vote on the CIP list for the budget in September.
  • Staff confirmed sidewalk selection priorities for grant applications: Crest Oak (1st), Sun Ray (2nd), Sturdy (3rd), with Sanders and Lodge Pole below. These will be presented to the Board of Aldermen next month.
  • A commissioner suggested that streetlights be considered when installing new sidewalks, citing safety concerns on Sturdy.

Key Outcomes

  • No formal votes were taken on any agenda item.
  • Approval of minutes was deferred to the next meeting.
  • The sewer lateral policy discussion will continue at a future meeting; the interim director will bring proposed changes.
  • The RV parking discussion will continue after the interim director researches code sections and consults the city attorney.
  • The CIP list will be formally voted on in September; sidewalk priorities were confirmed for grant application.
  • The next regular meeting is scheduled for September 17, 2025 (as mentioned for CIP list grading).
  • The annual Crestwood Summer Soirée is on July 25; RSVP by July 18.

Note: The agenda lists the meeting as July 16, 2025, but the provided instruction specifies the meeting date as July 17, 2025. This summary uses the date from the instruction.

Meeting Transcript

I can go get one. Thank you, sir. I'll order the uh thank you. Let's start with leaders. Yes. Okay. Um sir. Chairman Letty. Here. Commissioner Welkie. Here. Commissioner Bankie. Here. Commissioner Betts. Excuse. Excuse. Commissioner Chase. Here. Commissioner Kissle. Here. Commissioner Cruzel. Excuse me. Excuse. Alderman Representative Ballas. Here. Alderman Representative Morrison. Here. We have quorum. Thank you. Yeah, so we'll be pushing the uh we'll be pushing the uh approval of the past minutes to the next meeting and approve those both at that time. Okay, public comments. Uh as you can see if you wish to make public comment, you may do so at this time. Please raise your hand. And then come to the podium, state your name and address for the record. And please keep your uh comments to five minutes to have anybody who wants to make comment. That picture is passed out if that's all right. Um I wanted to address uh um please uh state your name and your oh I'm sorry. Um my name is Janice Butler. This is my husband Bill Butler. We live at 9219 sharing broke lane. Um we own uh four Dazzle Class B minivan, and I wanted to talk to you about the um parking ordinances for RV parking in front of homes, and I understand the ordinance, it's um three days on the driveway for loading and unloading um or in the street. Um because this class B is classified in RB, um, we're following the ordinance for that. We're trying to, and having a lot of um harassment from one neighbor in particular about having the van too long in our driveway. As you can see from the picture, it's the size of a van. It's on a van chassis, it is no bigger than uh 12 or 15 passenger family van or an ADA you know van to transport someone in a wheelchair. Um it's kind of a little sloppy job parking there because uh it was the first day we had it, but you can see from the stripes that it fits in an average parking spot. We bought the van for travel, but we also bought it to be an extra vehicle to use. Um my husband and I both have our own cars, we were hoping this would replace one of the cars, and we can use it for everyday errands. We've used it because it's a van, we've been able to use it to help people transport um furniture, we help someone move a freezer, um, we're doing home construction, so we can go to Home Depot or Lowe's and get two by fours and sheets of plywood. We don't have to rent one of their vans to bring something back.

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