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Crestwood Charter Review Commission Meeting — November 12, 2025

Board of Aldermen & Boards — Wednesday, November 12, 2025
BodyCrestwood, Missouri
SessionBoard of Aldermen & Boards
DateWednesday, November 12, 2025
StatusFILED
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0:05

Okay, ready to go.

0:07

It's uh after 6 30, so I will call to order the uh Charter Review Commission for the City of Crestwood.

0:15

Um Jeff, we might as well take a roll call.

0:20

Absolutely.

0:21

Uh Chairman Sweeney here.

0:24

Commissioner Bosdick?

0:25

Here.

0:26

Commissioner Kohler?

0:27

Here.

0:27

Commissioner Pickle?

0:28

Here.

0:29

Commissioner Shipley?

0:30

Here.

0:30

Commissioner Seven.

0:32

Here.

0:32

Commissioner Young?

0:33

Here.

0:34

Commissioner Vutter.

0:35

Here.

0:35

Commissioner Johnston.

0:36

Here.

0:37

That is a quorum and it is all hands on deck.

0:43

This is the next item on our agenda is public comment.

0:47

This is the opportunity for the public to make comments.

0:52

Tell us what you think.

0:53

If you know what we're doing.

0:55

Anyone interested in making a comment?

0:59

If you wouldn't mind, please come to the podium and state your name, and we're we're all yours.

1:06

Within reason.

1:07

Do I need to give my address?

1:09

It's not necessary, but uh sure.

1:13

Martha Duchild, uh, 9158 General Grant Lane, in case you need my address.

1:19

Uh, first, I'd like to thank all of you for serving uh on this commission and for your hard work in identifying areas of the charter needing updating and revision.

1:30

I'm here to talk about what is labeled as ballot proposition number four in tonight's agenda, which proposes extending the terms of office for mayor and aldermen from three years to four years.

1:44

This is a consequential change that should be generated from the bottom up, meaning that residents or aldermen should be the one initiating this change rather than from the top down from the administration to this charter commission.

2:05

I'm the wife of a former Ward 3 alderman, have personally known every Crestwood mayor since 2005, and have also known many of Crestwood's aldermen.

2:17

At no time did any of these elected officials express concern about the length of their terms or any ill effects that would impact those who they served.

2:30

The suggested change in terms came from the National League of Cities model charter.

2:36

For perspective, there are over 190,000 cities across the U.S.

2:42

according to the latest census, and the NLC is affiliated with only 2.5% of those cities.

2:52

Not all cities are alike, and not all cities, including Crestwood, are best served by a cookie cutter one size fits all charter.

3:04

Our current three-year terms for mayor and alderman have served the city well and effectively.

3:11

There is no reason to propose changing them.

3:28

With each year you add to an elected official's term, you increase the likelihood that they may be unable to finish that term due to any number of issues.

3:40

How is the city best served if there are aldermen or mayors who need to step down mid-term creating vacancies in their respective seats?

3:50

Three-year terms are manageable and provide the necessary turnover and fresh ideas to keep the city vibrant.

3:59

The staggering of our three-year terms ensures stability and institutional knowledge.

4:06

And that stability is maintained by having incumbents run for re-election.

4:11

Looking at the current and past boards, there are always a good number of multiple-term aldermen and mayors serving at any time.

4:21

That is less likely to happen if terms are extended to four years.

4:26

Moreover, the terms currently are short enough to be appealing to younger members of our community, as they would not have to consider the weight of a four-year commitment and be discouraged from running for elective office.

4:42

Looking to our closest local elected officials, the Limburg School District, they have three-year terms for its elected officials and has not contemplated changing those terms.

5:00

The commission's reasons for favoring lengthened terms, which experienced having seasoned aldermen and mayors, and allowing elected officials to settle in are already being accomplished with the three-year terms, which provide for continuity of membership, efficiency, and time to settle in.

5:17

There is no downside to the current term length.

5:21

I respectfully ask that this commission maintain the integrity of our charter and remove ballot proposition for from the final list of proposed charter amendments that you will forward to the Board of Alderman for approval.

5:35

Thank you.

5:36

Thank you.

5:39

Any other comments?

5:41

Thank you, sir.

5:47

I've waited.

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Summary of Proceedings

Crestwood Charter Review Commission Meeting — November 12, 2025

The Crestwood (Missouri) Charter Review Commission met at the Crestwood Government Center (1 Detjen Drive, St. Louis, MO), beginning shortly after 6:30 p.m. The agenda lists the meeting date as Monday, November 10, 2025, while the provided timestamp indicates Wednesday, November 12, 2025; this summary uses the provided timestamp. Chair Bob Sweeney (Ward 2) presided, with Angela Sebben (Ward 4) as Vice Chair. Commissioners Lisa Bozdeck, Beth Johnston, Matthew Koehler, Christopher Pickel, Mayor Scott Shipley, Megan Vedder, and Ted Yemm were also present. The Commission reviewed the draft ballot propositions containing proposed Charter amendments, recommended four propositions to the Board of Aldermen, folded Proposition 5 into Proposition 2, and directed the city attorney to finalize the ordinance language.

Consent Calendar

  • Minutes: Motion made and approved to adopt the October 13, 2025 meeting minutes, as amended.

Public Comments & Testimony

  • A speaker identifying herself as the wife of a former Ward 3 alderman opposed Ballot Proposition 4, which would extend the terms of the mayor and Board of Aldermen from three years to four years. She argued the change should be generated 'bottom-up' from residents or aldermen rather than 'top-down' from the administration; said no elected official she has known since 2005 had expressed concern about term length; cautioned against a 'cookie cutter, one size fits all charter'; and argued that longer terms increase the likelihood an official cannot complete the term. She asked the Commission to remove Proposition 4 and maintain the integrity of the charter.

Discussion Items

  • Ballot Proposition 1 (legislative process and procedures): The Commission reviewed the ordinance attachment format, in which red-line and strike-through text shows the exact change from the current charter. Members discussed adding language clarifying that the item would not increase any city tax or fee, since voters often assume any change means more money; the city attorney was asked to determine what language is legally permissible. The Commission voted by roll call to recommend Ballot Proposition 1 to the Board of Aldermen.
  • Ballot Proposition 2 (legislative proceedings, ordinance publication, audits, vacancies): The Commission discussed consolidating Proposition 5 — which would let the Board adopt a biennial budget — into Proposition 2 as budget flexibility. Members debated whether deleting annual-budget language could be read as allowing the Board to skip a budget, while others countered that restating purely legal requirements 'clogs up' the charter and could create unintended loopholes. The Commission voted unanimously to incorporate Proposition 5 into Proposition 2, then voted by separate roll call to recommend the amended Proposition 2.
  • Ballot Proposition 3 (election alignment): The Commission reviewed aligning Crestwood elections with Missouri statutes and placing charter items on the municipal election ballot every year, avoiding the cost of additional elections. The change would take effect with the next general municipal term. A motion to recommend Proposition 3 was approved by roll call.
  • Ballot Proposition 4 (term lengths): The Commission discussed the proposal to extend terms from three years to four. A commissioner noted the idea can have more than one origin and that he had not previously known it came from the National League of Cities, and observed that declining to place the item on the ballot would mean none of the nine members had made the decision. A motion to recommend Proposition 4 to the Board of Aldermen passed by roll call (individual vote tally not stated in the transcript).
  • Ballot Proposition 5 (biennial budget flexibility): The Commission noted for the record that Proposition 5 was subsumed and incorporated into Proposition 2 and would not proceed as a separate ballot measure.

Key Outcomes

  • Recommended Ballot Proposition 1 to the Board of Aldermen by roll-call vote.
  • Unanimously consolidated Ballot Proposition 5 into Ballot Proposition 2, then recommended the amended Ballot Proposition 2 to the Board of Aldermen by separate roll-call vote.
  • Recommended Ballot Proposition 3 to the Board of Aldermen by roll-call vote.
  • Recommended Ballot Proposition 4 to the Board of Aldermen by roll-call vote.
  • Recorded that Ballot Proposition 5 was incorporated into Ballot Proposition 2.
  • Directed the city attorney to finalize the ordinance language and cleaned-up attachments.
  • Discussed presenting the recommendations at the November 25 Board of Aldermen meeting; some members could not attend, and the Chair, who regularly attends Board meetings, offered to represent the Commission.
  • The meeting was adjourned with no further business.

Meeting Transcript

Okay, ready to go. It's uh after 6 30, so I will call to order the uh Charter Review Commission for the City of Crestwood. Um Jeff, we might as well take a roll call. Absolutely. Uh Chairman Sweeney here. Commissioner Bosdick? Here. Commissioner Kohler? Here. Commissioner Pickle? Here. Commissioner Shipley? Here. Commissioner Seven. Here. Commissioner Young? Here. Commissioner Vutter. Here. Commissioner Johnston. Here. That is a quorum and it is all hands on deck. This is the next item on our agenda is public comment. This is the opportunity for the public to make comments. Tell us what you think. If you know what we're doing. Anyone interested in making a comment? If you wouldn't mind, please come to the podium and state your name, and we're we're all yours. Within reason. Do I need to give my address? It's not necessary, but uh sure. Martha Duchild, uh, 9158 General Grant Lane, in case you need my address. Uh, first, I'd like to thank all of you for serving uh on this commission and for your hard work in identifying areas of the charter needing updating and revision. I'm here to talk about what is labeled as ballot proposition number four in tonight's agenda, which proposes extending the terms of office for mayor and aldermen from three years to four years. This is a consequential change that should be generated from the bottom up, meaning that residents or aldermen should be the one initiating this change rather than from the top down from the administration to this charter commission. I'm the wife of a former Ward 3 alderman, have personally known every Crestwood mayor since 2005, and have also known many of Crestwood's aldermen. At no time did any of these elected officials express concern about the length of their terms or any ill effects that would impact those who they served. The suggested change in terms came from the National League of Cities model charter. For perspective, there are over 190,000 cities across the U.S. according to the latest census, and the NLC is affiliated with only 2.5% of those cities. Not all cities are alike, and not all cities, including Crestwood, are best served by a cookie cutter one size fits all charter. Our current three-year terms for mayor and alderman have served the city well and effectively. There is no reason to propose changing them. With each year you add to an elected official's term, you increase the likelihood that they may be unable to finish that term due to any number of issues. How is the city best served if there are aldermen or mayors who need to step down mid-term creating vacancies in their respective seats? Three-year terms are manageable and provide the necessary turnover and fresh ideas to keep the city vibrant. The staggering of our three-year terms ensures stability and institutional knowledge. And that stability is maintained by having incumbents run for re-election. Looking at the current and past boards, there are always a good number of multiple-term aldermen and mayors serving at any time. That is less likely to happen if terms are extended to four years.

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